What God's Word Says About Self Defense | |
| Goofy for God Do everything with love User ID: 16845676 01/11/2013 08:48 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dress with this The Armor of God [link to www.acts17-11.com] ![]() Matthew 5:44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31950575 01/11/2013 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ANY RULE APPLIED TO ISREAL CANNOT EVER BE EQUATED TO THE NATIONS BECAUSEISRAEL WAS UNDER GOD'S COMMAND THE NATIONS ARE A ALW UNTO THEMSLEVES AS WAS SIREAL ANDTHAT IS WHY IT WAS JUDGED BUT THE NEW TESTMANENT IS AIMED AT EVERYONE INVIDUALLY AS FOR HUMAN GOVERNMENTS GOD ALLOWS THEM AND H IES JUDGE OF THEM AS HE IS JUDGE OF MAN IN GENERAL INCLUDING THOSE THAT FORM AND RUN GOVERNMENTS THE MAERICAN CONSITUTION IS A LIST OF MAN MADE PRINCIPALS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD BUT SEEING AS GOD ALLOWS HUMAN GOVERNENCE AND AMERICAS FORM OF GOVERNECE WAS FORMED BY ITS HUMANANLY DESIGNED CONSTITUTION IT IS A HUMAN LAW RECOGNIZED WITHIN THE UNITED STATES THAT ALL ITS PEOPLE MAY ARM THESMELVES TO THE TEETH TO DEFEND THEMSVLES IF THEY SO WISH AND TO TRY AND STOP THEM IS TREASON THE CONSITUTION IS MANS WILL THAT GOD ALLOWS FOR NOW. BUT IT IS NOT GOD'S WILL FOR MAN NOR IS IT HOW GOD EXPECTS MEN TO THINK AS A MEANS TO OBEY HIM FULLY ONLY IN AS FAR AS THAT PAICE OF PAPAER CANNOT HAVE LAWS THAT CONTRAVENE IT DRAWN UP AGANIST IT THAT IS THE ONLY THING GOD ALLOWS IN AS FAR AS THE RESPECT FOR HUMAN LAWS BUT HIS LAWS AS REVEALED THROUGH JESUS CHRIST ARE SUPERIOR IN THE END SO IT IS A GOOD JOB THE CONSTITION DEOS NOT SAY EVERYONE HAS TO BEAR ARMS |
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| <<TIMEWATCHER>> (OP) User ID: 25511458 01/11/2013 09:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOD gives us the right to defend outself if we are in danger of our life it says do not fear when 10,0000s surround you because the LORD GOD will be your protection i fear no man i only FEAR GOD Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18361581 "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."- Samuel Adams "...It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." --Samuel Adams A man may die, nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on. --John F. Kennedy The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission. --John F. Kennedy Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. --John F. Kennedy Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth. --Abraham Lincoln The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. --George Washington All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. --Albert Einstein When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on. --Thomas Jefferson “Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding.” - Albert Einstein "The best minds are not in government. If they were, business would hire them away." -Ronald Reagan "You cannot give away kindness because people keep returning it" -Indian Saying |
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| -GLP-Christian- Under Svea Banér User ID: 31988328 01/11/2013 09:38 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What we especially have weapons for is so we can protect others lives so we can preach the gospel to them. The pacifict crowd probably have another Jesus... Like this article is nice: God a Man of War “The Lord is a man of war,” Exodus 15:3 “The God of the armies of Israel,“ 1 Samuel 17:45 “The Lord of Hosts,” Isaiah 47:4 [link to www.learnthebible.org] Host for those that don't get it is an army. It's mainly the pacificts fault that so many have died in genocides etc. because they were not able to stop tyrants, they will have some serious explaining to do. Same as all these gun free zone churches that gets shot up, churches that have loads of armed members never get shot up. As I said I think many of the pacificts are wolves in sheeps clothing, who else would love to see a Christian unarmed? Why the devil, he tries to steal the word by producing all these modern perversions (like you used for this article, hence he robbed you of the word) [link to www.av1611.org] [link to www.av1611.org] and he tries to rob us of our second weapon: prayer by having us do all sorts of other stuff. And he tries to rob us of our protection in this wicked world, an unarmed man is easy to kill. So these pacifists are most likely some sort of wolves in sheeps clothing disarming people, as I understand they're also often part of the ecumenical one world religion bs. Last Edited by -GLP-Christian- on 01/11/2013 09:41 PM |
| <<TIMEWATCHER>> (OP) User ID: 25511458 01/11/2013 09:39 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What we especially have weapons for is so we can protect others lives so we can preach the gospel to them. Quoting: -GLP-Christian- The pacifict crowd probably have another Jesus... Like this article is nice: God a Man of War “The Lord is a man of war,” Exodus 15:3 “The God of the armies of Israel,“ 1 Samuel 17:45 “The Lord of Hosts,” Isaiah 47:4 [link to www.learnthebible.org] Host for those that don't get it is an army. It's mainly the pacificts fault that so many have died in genocides etc. because they were not able to stop tyrants, they will have some serious explaining to do. Same as all these gun free zone churches that gets shot up, churches that have loads of armed members never get shot up. As I said I think many of the pacificts are wolves in sheeps clothing, who else would love to see a Christian unarmed? Why the devil, he tries to steal the word by producing all these modern perversions (like you used for this article, hence he robbed you of the word) [link to www.av1611.org] [link to www.av1611.org] and he tries to rob us of our second weapon: prayer by having us do all sorts of other stuff. And he tries to rob us of our protection in this wicked world, an unarmed man is easy to kill. Thanks for the links "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."- Samuel Adams "...It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." --Samuel Adams A man may die, nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on. --John F. Kennedy The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission. --John F. Kennedy Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. --John F. Kennedy Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth. --Abraham Lincoln The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. --George Washington All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. --Albert Einstein When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on. --Thomas Jefferson “Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding.” - Albert Einstein "The best minds are not in government. If they were, business would hire them away." -Ronald Reagan "You cannot give away kindness because people keep returning it" -Indian Saying |
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| -GLP-Christian- Under Svea Banér User ID: 31988328 01/11/2013 09:44 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What we especially have weapons for is so we can protect others lives so we can preach the gospel to them. Quoting: -GLP-Christian- The pacifict crowd probably have another Jesus... Like this article is nice: God a Man of War “The Lord is a man of war,” Exodus 15:3 “The God of the armies of Israel,“ 1 Samuel 17:45 “The Lord of Hosts,” Isaiah 47:4 [link to www.learnthebible.org] Host for those that don't get it is an army. It's mainly the pacificts fault that so many have died in genocides etc. because they were not able to stop tyrants, they will have some serious explaining to do. Same as all these gun free zone churches that gets shot up, churches that have loads of armed members never get shot up. As I said I think many of the pacificts are wolves in sheeps clothing, who else would love to see a Christian unarmed? Why the devil, he tries to steal the word by producing all these modern perversions (like you used for this article, hence he robbed you of the word) [link to www.av1611.org] [link to www.av1611.org] and he tries to rob us of our second weapon: prayer by having us do all sorts of other stuff. And he tries to rob us of our protection in this wicked world, an unarmed man is easy to kill. Thanks for the links You're welcome. Here's another: A Biblical Perspective of Self-Defense [link to www.foxven.com] EDIT: Resisting evil, self defense and war [link to www.letusreason.org] Last Edited by -GLP-Christian- on 01/11/2013 09:48 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31950575 01/11/2013 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOD gives us the right to defend outself if we are in danger of our life it says do not fear when 10,0000s surround you because the LORD GOD will be your protection i fear no man i only FEAR GOD Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18361581 THAT IS A LIE AND IS DIRECT VIOLATION OF GOD'S COMMANDMENTS. GOD DOES NOT SAY DEFEND YOURSELF HE SAYS I WILL DEFEND YOU HE ALSO COMMANDS YOU TO TURN TH OTHER CHEEK WHEN YOU HAVE VIOLENCE DONE TO YOU. YOUR REFUGE OF LYING AGAINST GOD ARE YOU DOWNFALL AND NO GUN SHALL SAVE YOU FROM SUCH A DOWNFALL |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31950575 01/11/2013 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Self Defense in the New Testament The Christian pacifist may try to argue that God has changed His mind from the time that He gave Moses the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20 or the provision for justifiably killing a thief in Exodus 22. But the writer of Hebrews makes it clear that this cannot be, because "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever" (Hebrews 13:. In the Old Testament, the prophet Malachi records God's words this way: "For I am the Lord, I do not change" (Malachi 3:6). WRONG Punishment of sin such as theft is God's domain for he is Judge only he without sin can rightiously aplly such a punishment for a theif threfore only God could do such a thing. Jesus illustrated this point to the pharissess and teachers of (God's) law when he was asked about the woman caught in the act of adultery the punishment for which according to the law was stoning the woman to death. Jesus then made it VERY plain that the Laws of God are set out to highlight things which God hates, namely sin. Buit then Jesus made it plain that only God is HOLY and RIGHTIOUS ENOUGH To carry out the punishment of the things he hates and no man was without SIN except Jesus himself (even though those clamming to be Gods servents didnt believe that.) So Jesus told them Let HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. Showing that NO MAN HAD THE RIGHT TO CARRY OUT GOD'S JUSTICE IN REGARD TO GODS LAWS. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31955422 01/11/2013 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. "These are Forces, which in effect, are purifiers, you see. These are those, which clear the way for the creation of that which can bring about harmony. "Here we begin at a point where there are two brothers, so to say: One is the Light and one is the Darkness. These brothers love their Father without limit, beyond reservation or any such. Their love is complete. Both are of pure intent unto God. "The 'forces of destruction' or the forces of opposition are creations of consciousness in Earth, or in the minds called human or finite. Those minds, which are unlimited or infinite, have no sense of the description of destruction, as you call this. A Force of God cannot de-struct or de-structure that which is created of God. There is naught which can do this." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31950575 01/11/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF SOMEONE STRIKES YOU ON THE CHEEK TURN TO HIM THE OTHER CHEEK IF SOMEONE STEALS YOUR CLOAK OFFER HIM YOUR TUNIC ASWELL WHAT TO DO ACCORDING THE LORD JESUS, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER THE PRINCE OF PEACE, IN REGARDS TO PROPERTY THEFT AND ACTS OF VIOLENCE AGANIST YOUR PERSON. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32001559 01/11/2013 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOD gives us the right to defend outself if we are in danger of our life it says do not fear when 10,0000s surround you because the LORD GOD will be your protection i fear no man i only FEAR GOD Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18361581 THAT IS A LIE AND IS DIRECT VIOLATION OF GOD'S COMMANDMENTS. GOD DOES NOT SAY DEFEND YOURSELF HE SAYS I WILL DEFEND YOU HE ALSO COMMANDS YOU TO TURN TH OTHER CHEEK WHEN YOU HAVE VIOLENCE DONE TO YOU. YOUR REFUGE OF LYING AGAINST GOD ARE YOU DOWNFALL AND NO GUN SHALL SAVE YOU FROM SUCH A DOWNFALL Do not fight physically. Ephesians 6: 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. |
| Darth Hitman User ID: 20445041 01/11/2013 10:26 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was recently in a debate with a fool telling me I needed to go to church when I mentioned God telling his disciples to obtain a sword [and pointed out a sword then was the equivalent to a gun today] and he told me 1. His preacher would set me str8 on that and 2. By sword he was talking about a Bible. I asked him "Why did they bring two Bibles back and Christ said that would be sufficient and, how did a guy get his ear cut by the bible? Was it a paper cut? “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Truth fears no questions. ~Unknown “There is no such thing as a minor lapse of integrity” - Tom Peters |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31991224 01/11/2013 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was recently in a debate with a fool telling me I needed to go to church when I mentioned God telling his disciples to obtain a sword [and pointed out a sword then was the equivalent to a gun today] and he told me 1. His preacher would set me str8 on that and 2. By sword he was talking about a Bible. I asked him "Why did they bring two Bibles back and Christ said that would be sufficient and, how did a guy get his ear cut by the bible? Was it a paper cut? Quoting: Darth Hitman Christians of all denominations distort the Bible. They pick and choose verses that support their personal manmade religions and discard what contradicts their beliefs. They hammer scripture to suit themselves and you wouldn't want to be in their shoes, when they have to stand before Christ. They violate the very Word of God. For Example: "Wine that makes you merry" isn't grape juice, and they didn't accuse Jesus of being a winebibber, because He guzzled grape juice, and they didn't accuse the disciples of being full of wine at Pentecost because they drank grape juice too early in the day. The Catholic church ignores half the Bible which condemns their practices and contradicts their dogma. It will only get worse from here on out, until Jesus Christ returns. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31894299 01/11/2013 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was recently in a debate with a fool telling me I needed to go to church when I mentioned God telling his disciples to obtain a sword [and pointed out a sword then was the equivalent to a gun today] and he told me 1. His preacher would set me str8 on that and 2. By sword he was talking about a Bible. I asked him "Why did they bring two Bibles back and Christ said that would be sufficient and, how did a guy get his ear cut by the bible? Was it a paper cut? Quoting: Darth Hitman And when did they ever use a sword? either Christ or His disciples? If you read end times revelation you would notice that Babylons fate is sealed. Cursed by God Now its up to you to figure out who or where is Babylon. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5889823 01/11/2013 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You really do need to change it to 'what (MY) god says', because not everyone here subscribes to your vision of reality. That being said, what if that book were to vanish tomorrow? What you all you people do without your guidance of scripture. I see you look to it in times of need as a backbone. Where would your faith be if that singular book did not exist? With a different god? With no god? People should really start putting some faith in themselves, and look for ways to deal with situations outside of looking in ancient scribbles. I personally don't need to look outward for hope when I need it. I must say it is pretty great. Again though, stop with the definitive monotheism. The world today is too diverse for people to try and fit inside their one little box. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32008132 01/11/2013 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a bunch of made up bullshit. Why not add a whole new book to the Bible about how it is okay to kill people if you think they are bad. No, Jesus said to turn the other cheek....period. Don't try to change His words. If you kill somebody, then you and God can figure out the terms. Don't try to lie and be some deceitful asshole. 7 deadly sins 1.A proud look. 2.A lying tongue. 3.Hands that shed innocent blood. 4.A heart that devises wicked plots. 5.Feet that are swift to run into mischief. 6.A deceitful witness that uttereth lies. 7.Him that soweth discord among brethren. |
| <<TIMEWATCHER>> (OP) User ID: 25511458 01/12/2013 12:30 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."- Samuel Adams "...It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." --Samuel Adams A man may die, nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on. --John F. Kennedy The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission. --John F. Kennedy Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. --John F. Kennedy Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth. --Abraham Lincoln The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. --George Washington All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. --Albert Einstein When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on. --Thomas Jefferson “Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding.” - Albert Einstein "The best minds are not in government. If they were, business would hire them away." -Ronald Reagan "You cannot give away kindness because people keep returning it" -Indian Saying |
| Rising Son We Are All Godlike Productions User ID: 31269856 01/12/2013 12:34 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent thread, OP. You have studied well and I can think of a movie that exemplifies what you are saying here in theatrical form. It is called "Lawless" starring Shia Leboeuf, and it is perhaps one of the finest movies to personify the true difference between vengeance and justice, retribution and redemption. I strongly recommend it for you and everyone else in this thread. Just be cautioned, it does get gory at times and there is some nudity, but the movie as a whole is excellent. Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Translation: Don't piss down my back and tell me its raining. |
| <<TIMEWATCHER>> (OP) User ID: 25511458 01/12/2013 12:44 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent thread, OP. You have studied well and I can think of a movie that exemplifies what you are saying here in theatrical form. It is called "Lawless" starring Shia Leboeuf, and it is perhaps one of the finest movies to personify the true difference between vengeance and justice, retribution and redemption. I strongly recommend it for you and everyone else in this thread. Just be cautioned, it does get gory at times and there is some nudity, but the movie as a whole is excellent. Quoting: Rising Son I've watched that movie like 10 times, great movie, Shia leboeuf gets his butt kicks Last Edited by <<TIMEWATCHER>> on 01/12/2013 12:44 AM "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."- Samuel Adams "...It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." --Samuel Adams A man may die, nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on. --John F. Kennedy The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission. --John F. Kennedy Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. --John F. Kennedy Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth. --Abraham Lincoln The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. --George Washington All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. --Albert Einstein When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on. --Thomas Jefferson “Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding.” - Albert Einstein "The best minds are not in government. If they were, business would hire them away." -Ronald Reagan "You cannot give away kindness because people keep returning it" -Indian Saying |
| -GLP-Christian- Under Svea Banér User ID: 31988328 01/12/2013 12:45 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And there came the pacifists with their vitriol. No wonder they don't need no guns seeing the poison they spray from their mouths. Paul used his sword quite a lot I'd say. 2 Corinthians 11:26 In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; because Paul really just stood there when in perils of robbers... and with the heathen... yeah sure pacifists sure. Satan was sending his people to stop the spread of the gospel by force. I rebuke you all in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ Last Edited by -GLP-Christian- on 01/12/2013 12:46 AM |
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| Nemamiah User ID: 1184364 01/12/2013 12:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...It's mainly the pacificts fault that so many have died in genocides etc. because they were not able to stop tyrants, they will have some serious explaining to do. Quoting: -GLP-Christian- ...So these pacifists are most likely some sort of wolves in sheeps clothing disarming people, as I understand they're also often part of the ecumenical one world religion bs. I've always believed the way you do. I believe we are told to love each other. However, I believe we are told to stand up to evil and reject it. It's our obligation to defend those who evil would harm both physically and spiritually. |
| Nemamiah User ID: 1184364 01/12/2013 01:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF SOMEONE STRIKES YOU ON THE CHEEK Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31950575 TURN TO HIM THE OTHER CHEEK IF SOMEONE STEALS YOUR CLOAK OFFER HIM YOUR TUNIC ASWELL WHAT TO DO ACCORDING THE LORD JESUS, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER THE PRINCE OF PEACE, IN REGARDS TO PROPERTY THEFT AND ACTS OF VIOLENCE AGANIST YOUR PERSON. If someone strikes you on the cheek, turn the other cheek = don't seek revenge, for revenge is God's If someone steals your cloak, offer him your tunic as well = if you feel slighted, or robbed by someone, don't try to slight or rob them in return. This is basically the same as turn the other cheek (don't seek revenge) In order to grasp the entirety of the message, you have to delve into the linguistics of the original languages. Due to many years, many translations, agendas, and modern language idiosyncrasies, the modern day "pacifist" can pick and choose specific verses to enforce their point of view. It doesn't make it correct, and it doesn't make it entirely wrong either. I was fortunate enough to learn Hebrew at a young age, and then Latin/Greek later in life. Older, more original manuscripts of the Bible imply different things when modern day idiosyncrasies are removed from the equation. Ultimately, what you do, or choose not to do, is between you and God. God didn't make us all the same, and God's will for our lives isn't all the same. Last Edited by Nemamiah on 01/12/2013 01:26 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32008132 01/12/2013 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember one day after I had bought some weapons and was coating them with a little gun oil before putting them up in the safe. Suddenly I felt the air pressure in the room change and I knew whatever the unseen things were that were always around me were making themselves indelibly apparent. The celing and walls cracked and popped and I knew that they were upset and not happy with my decision to begin collecting fearsome weapons. I looked around, and of course saw nothing with my eyes, but I knew, I knew that He was there. I'm just not a killer. I don't know if I could ever kill another human being, yet I was buying these things because of my fears and...I guess, my lack of faith. I rationalized. Just a hobby, I told myself. I realize though, that if I ever am forced to use these things, I am crossing a boundary. A boundary that has been clearly declared by unseen forces of a spiritual nature....that have made themselves very apparent. |