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Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’

 
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Well, I've had a best friend and she's perfect in every way, but honestly she's ugly. I really don't mean to be mean about it, but it's true. I don't know if I can wake up to that every day. She makes 6 figures, but money doesn't matter to me. She'd marry me in a second. She's so cool, but super type A personality (I honestly don't know if I could keep up because I'm a quiet guy). She's so sweet, never been married, mid 40's, no kids, sweet as can be.

I'm in the confused category. I have hot young ladies in their 20's and early to mid 30's hitting on me quite frequently, but I've just lost interest, because every time I've tried they want to know my facebook account (have none) or loves to text (not me). Now that I'm in my mid 30's, personality seems to be more important, but the face.... I know that sounds bad, but she is about a 2/10 in looks and 10/10 in personality. I just don't know what to do.

I got really screwed over in my last marriage, but I know this other lady would never do that to me. And, she's at her sexual prime in her 40's, so I won't complain about that.

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I don't know if I can wake up to that every day.

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You would be a fool to pass her up.
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I don't know if I can wake up to that every day.

Confused AC.
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You would be a fool to pass her up.
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Hi Zoo,

I've been thinking about it, and I'm starting to agree with it. If you met her, you'd be very surprised. Not that annoying constant annoying talking that makes you fall asleep, but she has real things to say. She's a Libertarian, anti-gov, so sweet (but I'd have to take her cat in) but it may be worth it. Or I could go my own way. Still thinking about it. Yes, I might be a fool, but you're right, if I lose her now, I'll never get someone like her again. Thanks.
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What's happened is that Marriage has been basically taken over by the G-v. There's zero advantages and tons and tons of disadvantages for the guy. The only one's that benefit are the woman and the g=v. And guys are getting wise to this now. Because divorce has basically been incentivized. If you're a woman and you divorce you win! And if you're the g0v you win too! Even a pre nup won't help you much now a days. The point is anything the g=v touches gets ruined unfortunately. And men are just not gonna stand for it anymore. It's not only that but most women are far more subseptiable to the brainwashing of g-v so they go along with anythng and everything the g=v and MSM is telling us. They've believe it ALL! And the guys who often are more rational and know better end up in fights or have to go along with the woman on issues that they've been brainwashed by MSM to believe are the absolute truth, when they're not! I'm not saying marriage is bad, just the dynamics have changed. it's less advantageous for a man. I'd like to get married but when I see how big bro and msm have ruined it, it just scares me.
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
Most sexually repressed and financially oppressed bottom feeder men are continuously reduced to having sex with genetically mutated women because they cant afford to lease any beautiful liars...Pretty cool huh?...But like it or not,admit it or not,thats the brutal truth...
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The name of their evil game is the defeminization of women and the demasculinization of men as the easily misled sheeple are herded further astray down into the bottomless abyss of greed driven denial...
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
Here's an honest question:

If a woman is in a situation where she
1) works full time
2) is the primary caretaker for the kids
3) does all the domestic duties around the house, too

Then honestly, why SHOULD she be married rather than choose single motherhood?

Seriously, forget the religious fundie/biblical arguments and use logic for a minute.

If she can financially support herself, and the man isn't doing the cleaning or helping with the caretaking, and she's pretty much assuming all responsibilities anyway, why not just choose to be a single mother?

A lot of women don't enjoy sex anywhere near as much as men, so that annoying obligation is out of the way.

So many marriages are dysfunctional, that friends and family are a better source of emotional intimacy than a spouse. Especially after reading this thread, it seems like most men have serious issues that aren't worth the trouble of a woman dealing with.

Most women outlive men, and marriage is no guarantee the guy won't leave her for a younger woman in a few years anyway-- so she's likely to end up alone whether or not she marries.

Honestly, short of finding that very rare situation where a spouse is genuinely a wonderful person to spend life with, there is really no advantage to being married-- and many added stresses and disadvantages.

So why not choose to do it alone?
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Anyone has the ability to do it alone, it isn't mandatory to marry and have children.
My mom did her best raising me, but there was a big hole that will always be there because I never had a connection with my biological father.
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You are talking to a modern "liberated" women. What the hell does she care about her children? She is number 1 and number 2 and number 3, the kids might be number 4 but I seriously doubt it.

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I know women who have 3 or 4 kids from 3 or 4 different men and those women threw out everyone of those guys,one by one,after lying and saying they loved them just to get pregnant and more free ride child support,of course and the damn state and government actually backs them up and if i was running the show,those women would be forcibly sterilized because those emotionally warped women are a menace to normal society...
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I know women who have 3 or 4 kids from 3 or 4 different men and those women threw out everyone of those guys,one by one,after lying and saying they loved them just to get pregnant and more free ride child support,of course and the damn state and government actually backs them up and if i was running the show,those women would be forcibly sterilized because those emotionally warped women are a menace to normal society...
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My ex-wife is on her fourth marriage (at age 32). I was the first, because I don't deal with baggage. She was banging two guys behind my back. I was the bread winner, she was a stay-at-home mom, and spent like crazy when I was asleep. She called the cops one day when I came home from work (worked graveyard) and said that I abused her. She literally hit herself with pots and pans and set our gun next to the bed saying that I was going to kill myself or her.

Never ever ever am I getting married again. Women are complete psychos. She got the brand new car, 75% of our savings (which was a lot) when our house was sold.

Now, I have a domestic violence record, which I never did. My last job laid me off, and can't find a new one because of this false record. When I try to explain it, they just laugh in my face.

FUCK WOMEN!
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My generation was enjoying our early 20's when online social networking took over. I can't speak for every guy, but my standards for wife material went way up when "nice girls" realized how much attention they got by showing off cleavage to their 500 "closest friends".

I started to think maybe I'm just going for the wrong women... maybe I need to find one that doesn't have an online profile where she shares every damn detail of every relationship. Nothing is worse than getting blasted publicly for some argument that was expected to remain private.

As it turns out, a girl without social networking is like the proverbial virgin bride and I stopped being an idealist in thinking that Holy Grail is out there. Maybe I'm just old fashioned but it's difficult to want to marry a girl that thinks it's classy to broadcast her ass and tits on the internet.

All that is to say that despite what bothers me about the growing trend of low self-esteemed females out there, it saved me from a few that I was ready to commit to way too early.

I'm not saying my future wife isn't out there, but I've learned that being 31 and having no kids - while many of my friends have their own little monsters - is pretty fucking awesome. In other words, why buy the cow when the milk is on clearance?
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Why buy the land when you can constantly rent ?

Rather a women with whom my heart rest's with rather then a bunch of short lived thrills of excitement. Home is most warm roaming the land is an adventure but one always seeks to return home.
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What do they expect when Harlot holes are chomping at the bit everywhere you turn?
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Look. Let's face facts. Women in America are OBESE. Their vaginas smell of curds and whey. They are disgusting. And men are supposed to grovel at their cankles? I. THINK. NOT.
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I know women who have 3 or 4 kids from 3 or 4 different men and those women threw out everyone of those guys,one by one,after lying and saying they loved them just to get pregnant and more free ride child support,of course and the damn state and government actually backs them up and if i was running the show,those women would be forcibly sterilized because those emotionally warped women are a menace to normal society...
 Quoting: mike 24044715


My ex-wife is on her fourth marriage (at age 32). I was the first, because I don't deal with baggage. She was banging two guys behind my back. I was the bread winner, she was a stay-at-home mom, and spent like crazy when I was asleep. She called the cops one day when I came home from work (worked graveyard) and said that I abused her. She literally hit herself with pots and pans and set our gun next to the bed saying that I was going to kill myself or her.

Never ever ever am I getting married again. Women are complete psychos. She got the brand new car, 75% of our savings (which was a lot) when our house was sold.

Now, I have a domestic violence record, which I never did. My last job laid me off, and can't find a new one because of this false record. When I try to explain it, they just laugh in my face.

FUCK WOMEN!
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Seriously,women might actually be demons in disguise,luring in men with overrated sex and stealing their souls while ruining their lives at the expense of spitting out evermore fatherless children,just so the greedy bitches can have their cake and eat it too,which the damn state and government allows them to do,because for some hushed up evil reason,the modern day witch hunt is the demasculinization and elimination of middle class men...
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Most women say what they think men wanna hear,but its not what they're thinking and scheming...
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What's happened is that Marriage has been basically taken over by the G-v. There's zero advantages and tons and tons of disadvantages for the guy. The only one's that benefit are the woman and the g=v. And guys are getting wise to this now. Because divorce has basically been incentivized. If you're a woman and you divorce you win! And if you're the g0v you win too! Even a pre nup won't help you much now a days. The point is anything the g=v touches gets ruined unfortunately. And men are just not gonna stand for it anymore. It's not only that but most women are far more subseptiable to the brainwashing of g-v so they go along with anythng and everything the g=v and MSM is telling us. They've believe it ALL! And the guys who often are more rational and know better end up in fights or have to go along with the woman on issues that they've been brainwashed by MSM to believe are the absolute truth, when they're not! I'm not saying marriage is bad, just the dynamics have changed. it's less advantageous for a man. I'd like to get married but when I see how big bro and msm have ruined it, it just scares me.
 Quoting: Rtruth


All of a sudden, the Garden of Eden story makes perfect sense:

The 'woman' listened to the smooth talkin' ways of the 'serpent', who was all along trying to destroy the 'man'. All the characters fit the bill.

So, this is life then? There is always an 'anti-man' (faceless pie hole spewing silver tongued deceit) around to tempt the 'weaker half' of the life 'union'?

Is everyone playing their role perfectly, or what?

(btw- not 'religious', just pointing out!!! cheers)
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What's happened is that Marriage has been basically taken over by the G-v. There's zero advantages and tons and tons of disadvantages for the guy. The only one's that benefit are the woman and the g=v. And guys are getting wise to this now. Because divorce has basically been incentivized. If you're a woman and you divorce you win! And if you're the g0v you win too! Even a pre nup won't help you much now a days. The point is anything the g=v touches gets ruined unfortunately. And men are just not gonna stand for it anymore. It's not only that but most women are far more subseptiable to the brainwashing of g-v so they go along with anythng and everything the g=v and MSM is telling us. They've believe it ALL! And the guys who often are more rational and know better end up in fights or have to go along with the woman on issues that they've been brainwashed by MSM to believe are the absolute truth, when they're not! I'm not saying marriage is bad, just the dynamics have changed. it's less advantageous for a man. I'd like to get married but when I see how big bro and msm have ruined it, it just scares me.
 Quoting: Rtruth


All of a sudden, the Garden of Eden story makes perfect sense:

The 'woman' listened to the smooth talkin' ways of the 'serpent', who was all along trying to destroy the 'man'. All the characters fit the bill.

So, this is life then? There is always an 'anti-man' (faceless pie hole spewing silver tongued deceit) around to tempt the 'weaker half' of the life 'union'?

Is everyone playing their role perfectly, or what?

(btw- not 'religious', just pointing out!!! cheers)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10777137


Of course you could be in the garden right now, buck nekkid, inquiring about the cold draft in the area...
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Actually,if your a guy whos stupid enough to get married in this empathyless compassionless loveless greed driven modern day society,then you deserve whatever happens to you,dont get married,women are manipulating liars luring men into financial death traps with their overrated sex...
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IF woman do not behave like womans as God had intended them, they become whores, and adulteress and sexual objects for the short period of their beauty.

A woman has to invest everything on one man and one man only. That is the only way the man will KEEP HER past the point of her beauty.


So what we have today is that woman who got deceived with the whole independence/equality, of being modern woman, having careers, and not subjecting to their husbands is that they end up getting thrown out.

Just like woman got deceived. Man got deceived as well.

The only reason a man will see a woman as the only woman of his life, or the woman for the rest of his life is if the woman is a virgin and subjects to him.

If the woman does not, then she cast her husband away, become an adulteress and not a single man will see her as a potential life time partner, but just an object of pride/lust/vanity.

Woman therefore get cycled by man who only use them and when they get past their 30's, 40's, they realize they will never have a family, that no man will ever keep her, because SHE NO LONGER HAS HER YOUTH, BEAUTY, INNOCENCE, EXCLUSIVITY to offer.


Woman now can choose, thats a good thing, but not only they have to choose the right man, but they also must submissive to that husband, BECAUSE THATS THE ONLY THING THAT BALANCES A MAN KEEPING THE WIFE ONCE SHE GETS OLD.

So she has to choose, be an object for two decades, and most dont even really get full benefit from it.

Womans are on a time bomb, the more they invest on a man, the more submissive they have to be, because older they get, less chance they have to find a man who will treasure her.

There is no amount of anything that will save a lone woman on her 40's. If by that time she didnt gave all her heart so one man and bound him to her, then she has nothing to offer.

And man likewise, to surpass a young woman as a sex object, only a woman who is fully devout and submissive to him since her youth.

Otherwise the first time the woman is disrespectfull he will look her, see that she is no longer fair enough to justify that disrespect and will just pick a 18 year old girl instead.

And the woman will be left alone, no more as the beauty/mature fruit ready for the ripe. Will realize she cant compete with the other young woman. BECAUSE THATS GOD's DESIGN that woman get old and no man will endure any of her ramblings past a certain point.

And all because she got deceived into thinking she was like a man, when God clearly has not intended so.

So the only way a woman can have a stable fruitfull family, a fullfiling relationship, a husband that will love her no matter if she is young or old to her latter days, IS TO REALIZE THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE INVESTED ENOUGH INTO HER HUSBAND.

And a circle only runs around one axis.

If she does not comply and be a submissive woman to her husband, then nature will screw her.

She has to make the choice.
The younger the woman gets her husband and lives for him, the stronger the bound that will keep him to her.

Now a woman on her 30's would be delusional to think that she will find a man willing to constitute family with her and live all his life with her.

Realistically, if a woman has not found a husband until her 25 years old or so and INVESTED everything ON HIM, to make him his husband rather than career/job, its all downhill from there.

A woman can be self willed and rebellious if she is a teenager or up to her twenties, buts its a time bomb, the longer the time passes the more she has to addapt and submit to her husband.

What a woman has to offer to a man, has only worth if the man got it from the beggining, her innocence, beauty/youth, possibility of many healthy children, and rejoicing/refreshment on her breasts :D

That all runs on a clock. She can give much more than a man wants or needs when she is young, but if

If a woman invested enough and made that husband really happy/love her for the years of his life, then he will not throw her away once she gets old. They will live happily ever after.

Thats the mechanic of a relationship. Woman gives everything first, so that the man will keep her later on.

If the woman does not give enough, then the man will find another woman and the former will remain alone.

How come these inteligent modern woman dont realize that? They all go a whoring, picking man like man pick woman, unbeknown to the fact that the longer they whore, the less likely to find someone who wants more than just her decaying flesh.
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Excellent assessment
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Bullshit.

I have seen a woman get married at 13, stay home and raise 8 children. Take wonderful care of her husband, we are talking he says jump and she says how high. She never had a job, he didnt even ever teach her to drive.

When she turned 53, he left her for a 27 year old (moron). She couldnt drive and had no work experience.

She was fucked because she was dependent. Sucks to be her.

Women that are this stupid deserve it.

I hope it all works out for you stay at home women, but the odds are against you, by a long shot.
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IF woman do not behave like womans as God had intended them, they become whores, and adulteress and sexual objects for the short period of their beauty.

A woman has to invest everything on one man and one man only. That is the only way the man will KEEP HER past the point of her beauty.


So what we have today is that woman who got deceived with the whole independence/equality, of being modern woman, having careers, and not subjecting to their husbands is that they end up getting thrown out.

Just like woman got deceived. Man got deceived as well.

The only reason a man will see a woman as the only woman of his life, or the woman for the rest of his life is if the woman is a virgin and subjects to him.

If the woman does not, then she cast her husband away, become an adulteress and not a single man will see her as a potential life time partner, but just an object of pride/lust/vanity.

Woman therefore get cycled by man who only use them and when they get past their 30's, 40's, they realize they will never have a family, that no man will ever keep her, because SHE NO LONGER HAS HER YOUTH, BEAUTY, INNOCENCE, EXCLUSIVITY to offer.


Woman now can choose, thats a good thing, but not only they have to choose the right man, but they also must submissive to that husband, BECAUSE THATS THE ONLY THING THAT BALANCES A MAN KEEPING THE WIFE ONCE SHE GETS OLD.

So she has to choose, be an object for two decades, and most dont even really get full benefit from it.

Womans are on a time bomb, the more they invest on a man, the more submissive they have to be, because older they get, less chance they have to find a man who will treasure her.

There is no amount of anything that will save a lone woman on her 40's. If by that time she didnt gave all her heart so one man and bound him to her, then she has nothing to offer.

And man likewise, to surpass a young woman as a sex object, only a woman who is fully devout and submissive to him since her youth.

Otherwise the first time the woman is disrespectfull he will look her, see that she is no longer fair enough to justify that disrespect and will just pick a 18 year old girl instead.

And the woman will be left alone, no more as the beauty/mature fruit ready for the ripe. Will realize she cant compete with the other young woman. BECAUSE THATS GOD's DESIGN that woman get old and no man will endure any of her ramblings past a certain point.

And all because she got deceived into thinking she was like a man, when God clearly has not intended so.

So the only way a woman can have a stable fruitfull family, a fullfiling relationship, a husband that will love her no matter if she is young or old to her latter days, IS TO REALIZE THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE INVESTED ENOUGH INTO HER HUSBAND.

And a circle only runs around one axis.

If she does not comply and be a submissive woman to her husband, then nature will screw her.

She has to make the choice.
The younger the woman gets her husband and lives for him, the stronger the bound that will keep him to her.

Now a woman on her 30's would be delusional to think that she will find a man willing to constitute family with her and live all his life with her.

Realistically, if a woman has not found a husband until her 25 years old or so and INVESTED everything ON HIM, to make him his husband rather than career/job, its all downhill from there.

A woman can be self willed and rebellious if she is a teenager or up to her twenties, buts its a time bomb, the longer the time passes the more she has to addapt and submit to her husband.

What a woman has to offer to a man, has only worth if the man got it from the beggining, her innocence, beauty/youth, possibility of many healthy children, and rejoicing/refreshment on her breasts :D

That all runs on a clock. She can give much more than a man wants or needs when she is young, but if

If a woman invested enough and made that husband really happy/love her for the years of his life, then he will not throw her away once she gets old. They will live happily ever after.

Thats the mechanic of a relationship. Woman gives everything first, so that the man will keep her later on.

If the woman does not give enough, then the man will find another woman and the former will remain alone.

How come these inteligent modern woman dont realize that? They all go a whoring, picking man like man pick woman, unbeknown to the fact that the longer they whore, the less likely to find someone who wants more than just her decaying flesh.
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Excellent assessment
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35522037


Bullshit.

I have seen a woman get married at 13, stay home and raise 8 children. Take wonderful care of her husband, we are talking he says jump and she says how high. She never had a job, he didnt even ever teach her to drive.

When she turned 53, he left her for a 27 year old (moron). She couldnt drive and had no work experience.

She was fucked because she was dependent. Sucks to be her.

Women that are this stupid deserve it.

I hope it all works out for you stay at home women, but the odds are against you, by a long shot.
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Well while no longer being interested in their bread and butter, women still have an inordinate amount of sympathy. Especially against the "Domineering abuse, restrictive male" who was oppressing her for so long.

Anyway, if you are any indication, sympathy exists.

Now, to go warn the younger woman about the pimping old man's money and abusive ways, only supporting his last leech until his spirit gave out, and her body was still going...
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
Look. Let's face facts. Women in America are OBESE. Their vaginas smell of curds and whey. They are disgusting. And men are supposed to grovel at their cankles? I. THINK. NOT.
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wow there's a lotta faggots here.

WTF did mommy fuck you with a broom handle when you were 5 years old??? sheesh.
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Most women say what they think men wanna hear,but its not what they're thinking and scheming...
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Most men I know are like that.

I always say what I think...well, that must be the reason for me not being married...scratching
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It used to be a fortunate thing to have a man that would survive whatever minor wars occurred in your nation. Now any man who exists long enough to tire of his wife, usually gets put down by her and her umbilical at the State.


Isn't nation-building grand?

Of course if a woman tires of you, it is entirely your fault for not adding an inch to your penis daily, changing your wife's history, reading her mind or making as much money as every single man she will ever meet.
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The only thing it has to do with is old ancient ways that are no longer palpable in the new paradigm.
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The only thing it has to do with is old ancient ways that are no longer palpable in the new paradigm.
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Time for women to provide the man's dowry. They should probably start making their own smithys so that they can hammer out some swords too.
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The story you describe just proves that the man didnt prized her, got deceived himself or the woman got deceived herself through out life.


The relationship of people from 50 years ago that I know were all successful, married until this day, or separated only by death.


People with 70 years more were much less deceived in regards to relationship and family than people who were born just 53 years ago.

Even the people who were born 53 years ago, ended up being highly influenced by the deception.

So its not enough just to follow the Ways of the Ancient blueprint for a never ending relationship, but also BE AWARE OF NEW CORRUPTED ENVIRONMENT and take heed against it.

Why do you think "things changed"? because people failed at spotting the deception and defending their ways.

So a 53 year old woman on your example, is as much a victim of the woman with 45, or 35 years old to ALL EXTERNAL INFLUENCES/ DECEPTIONS AROUND.


The chance for a woman to find a man willing to accept her self willed, independent, rebelious, disobedient nature beyond the point of her youth/beauty is less than 1 in a 100.

The man would have to stick with the woman due to legal reasons, fear of judicial/economic/financial aftermath, fear of losing the child tutelage, etc... RATHER THAN THE FACT HE LOVES HER AND WANTS TO LIVE THE REST OF HIS LIFE WITH HER.



There is two types of man and two types of woman.
Old man, Modern Man, Old Woman, Modern Woman.

All 4 are still human beings and all 4 still want to love and be loved, BUT.

Modern Man were deceived/endocrinated/incentivized to not marry, to not create a stable family unit, to not take risks, to not take responsability, to not have children, to not share his patrimony, to no invest BEYOND FINDING A YOUNG ATTRACTIVE SEXUAL PARTNER that also works as social trophy.

And that is all because the way Modern Woman were designed to think/behave/evaluate.


Both Modern Man and Modern Woman are not compatible with each other or with either Old Man or Old Woman model.


The only design that work is the Old Man + Old Woman gender roles.

Now, you are rebelious and self willed "Modern Man" or "Modern Woman" and you were taught to "do what thou wilt".

But the consequences and limitations are obvious and negative.

Modern Woman are seen by Modern Man as having a validity date and as having to be a slave of beauty. Wich is a little ship going against the unstopable flow of the river wich is TIME / AGING.

The remaining Old Woman are ceized by the great majority of new Modern Man, wich will never evaluate them as they deserve, wich will bound her to unnatainable standards.

This is the old possible fate, because these woman will invest everything they have during their 18-30 years into a man who will not REALLY MARRY HER. She is emotionally invested and bound to a man who just uses her for sex.

And thats the woman fault for choosing this glorified stereotype of Modern Man, because she should have chosen the "Old Man" type.

If the woman goes for the "popular", "trending" male, wich is just part of the deception wich is the type of man that the media/movies sold to woman in the last 50 years.
She falls as well NO MATTER IF SHE IS THE "OLD WOMAN" TYPE.

So what we have is a huge majority of women being/falling for "Modern Woman" like man "Modern Man". These people relationship only work up to their 30's. Thats the kind of people who think that you have to "keep trying".

Modern Woman believing they have to find a man that ADDAPTS/FITS TO HER. While Modern Man wants no serious relationship compromise at all, mostly in for the sex/party =i.e. good times.

Basically, Modern Woman think they are independent, but they are just being evaluted as trophies and sexual objects.

If they happen to find an "Old Man", they are most certainly going to be disobedient, rebelious, manipulative, etc... and end up breaking the relationship themselves.

The smart woman is the one who realizes she has to find an Old Man and she has to behave as close as possible to the Old Woman. Like in their granddaddies time.

The smart man is the one who realizes he has to find an Old Woman who he knows will be 100% for him from start to finish.

What works is so easy to spot once one realize the truth at its most reduced/simplified level. You can get in a place and know right away whether someone is a Modern or Old version of the gender roles.

If you are female still insisting in this Independent Modern Woman and you are on younger than 30 years old you might scoff at this truth, because your own youth/beauty fools you.

If you are Modern Male, you will likely evade any serious/compromises in a relationship, avoiding legal marriage, children, etc. Leeching as much deceived young/beauty woman you can without none of the PERCEIVED risks.

Because you were incentivized to not commit, to not give, to not stand by, but just take it and leave it, just to hit and run.

Now, if you are an Old Male, you are very afraid of the times, afraid of woman might divorce you, take your children, your money, etc. You want to invest all your love in a relationship, but the majority of woman around are "Modern Woman" and if you dont know, you will likelly find yourself in a situation where you wasted everything and now you are alone, without your kids, without the wife you loved, etc...

See, most of the "old male", "old woman" types, from the old paradigm, if they mix/blend with the new "modern male/woman" paradigm, it will not work out.

Im pretty sure if "Old Man" meets "Old Woman" and they are aware of this whole deception/design that changed the paradigms and the gender roles in the last 50-60 years, they can STAND STILL STRONG AND NOTHING OR ANYTHING WOULD SEPARATE THEM, only death.
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I once went on a date with a women in Silicon valley and at dinner she wanted to know how many stock options I had in a high tech firm.

Over 60% of marriages end in divorce and of the 40% left most are unhappy. A few get lucky and find a good partner. Men are just as shallow and full of ego just like odern women. Why get married or live with someone when you can end up paying for it financially and emotionally.

We live in a shallow world of materialism, reality TV, and service to self. Until more lift their level of consciousness you are foolish to enter into any contract with incpmplete people. Be single and be happy.
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American women SUCK.
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It's true, but Canadian women are even worse !
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I highly doubt it....however Chinese women = damn great. It's the only thing I have to look forward to when China takes us over.
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If the woman does not let man be the Flagbearer of the relationship, then the man will not do so.

Wich is much worse.

Its either Flagbearer or Evasive. Either 100% or nothing.

There is only 50-50 if the woman is a fruit ready for the ripping, when man and woman get deceived by physical appearance/youth/beauty.

Woman thinks man is giving her 50% share on the ship. When in fact its the man tolerates woman just for the sex they are going to have within a few hours.
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The story you describe just proves that the man didnt prized her, got deceived himself or the woman got deceived herself through out life.


The relationship of people from 50 years ago that I know were all successful, married until this day, or separated only by death.


People with 70 years more were much less deceived in regards to relationship and family than people who were born just 53 years ago.

Even the people who were born 53 years ago, ended up being highly influenced by the deception.

So its not enough just to follow the Ways of the Ancient blueprint for a never ending relationship, but also BE AWARE OF NEW CORRUPTED ENVIRONMENT and take heed against it.

Why do you think "things changed"? because people failed at spotting the deception and defending their ways.

So a 53 year old woman on your example, is as much a victim of the woman with 45, or 35 years old to ALL EXTERNAL INFLUENCES/ DECEPTIONS AROUND.


The chance for a woman to find a man willing to accept her self willed, independent, rebelious, disobedient nature beyond the point of her youth/beauty is less than 1 in a 100.

The man would have to stick with the woman due to legal reasons, fear of judicial/economic/financial aftermath, fear of losing the child tutelage, etc... RATHER THAN THE FACT HE LOVES HER AND WANTS TO LIVE THE REST OF HIS LIFE WITH HER.



There is two types of man and two types of woman.
Old man, Modern Man, Old Woman, Modern Woman.

All 4 are still human beings and all 4 still want to love and be loved, BUT.

Modern Man were deceived/endocrinated/incentivized to not marry, to not create a stable family unit, to not take risks, to not take responsability, to not have children, to not share his patrimony, to no invest BEYOND FINDING A YOUNG ATTRACTIVE SEXUAL PARTNER that also works as social trophy.

And that is all because the way Modern Woman were designed to think/behave/evaluate.


Both Modern Man and Modern Woman are not compatible with each other or with either Old Man or Old Woman model.


The only design that work is the Old Man + Old Woman gender roles.

Now, you are rebelious and self willed "Modern Man" or "Modern Woman" and you were taught to "do what thou wilt".

But the consequences and limitations are obvious and negative.

Modern Woman are seen by Modern Man as having a validity date and as having to be a slave of beauty. Wich is a little ship going against the unstopable flow of the river wich is TIME / AGING.

The remaining Old Woman are ceized by the great majority of new Modern Man, wich will never evaluate them as they deserve, wich will bound her to unnatainable standards.

This is the old possible fate, because these woman will invest everything they have during their 18-30 years into a man who will not REALLY MARRY HER. She is emotionally invested and bound to a man who just uses her for sex.

And thats the woman fault for choosing this glorified stereotype of Modern Man, because she should have chosen the "Old Man" type.

If the woman goes for the "popular", "trending" male, wich is just part of the deception wich is the type of man that the media/movies sold to woman in the last 50 years.
She falls as well NO MATTER IF SHE IS THE "OLD WOMAN" TYPE.

So what we have is a huge majority of women being/falling for "Modern Woman" like man "Modern Man". These people relationship only work up to their 30's. Thats the kind of people who think that you have to "keep trying".

Modern Woman believing they have to find a man that ADDAPTS/FITS TO HER. While Modern Man wants no serious relationship compromise at all, mostly in for the sex/party =i.e. good times.

Basically, Modern Woman think they are independent, but they are just being evaluted as trophies and sexual objects.

If they happen to find an "Old Man", they are most certainly going to be disobedient, rebelious, manipulative, etc... and end up breaking the relationship themselves.

The smart woman is the one who realizes she has to find an Old Man and she has to behave as close as possible to the Old Woman. Like in their granddaddies time.

The smart man is the one who realizes he has to find an Old Woman who he knows will be 100% for him from start to finish.

What works is so easy to spot once one realize the truth at its most reduced/simplified level. You can get in a place and know right away whether someone is a Modern or Old version of the gender roles.

If you are female still insisting in this Independent Modern Woman and you are on younger than 30 years old you might scoff at this truth, because your own youth/beauty fools you.

If you are Modern Male, you will likely evade any serious/compromises in a relationship, avoiding legal marriage, children, etc. Leeching as much deceived young/beauty woman you can without none of the PERCEIVED risks.

Because you were incentivized to not commit, to not give, to not stand by, but just take it and leave it, just to hit and run.

Now, if you are an Old Male, you are very afraid of the times, afraid of woman might divorce you, take your children, your money, etc. You want to invest all your love in a relationship, but the majority of woman around are "Modern Woman" and if you dont know, you will likelly find yourself in a situation where you wasted everything and now you are alone, without your kids, without the wife you loved, etc...

See, most of the "old male", "old woman" types, from the old paradigm, if they mix/blend with the new "modern male/woman" paradigm, it will not work out.

Im pretty sure if "Old Man" meets "Old Woman" and they are aware of this whole deception/design that changed the paradigms and the gender roles in the last 50-60 years, they can STAND STILL STRONG AND NOTHING OR ANYTHING WOULD SEPARATE THEM, only death.
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I agree!

But what if you are a mixture of old and modern? I think that's a problem too. Trying to be a modern type but in your heart longing for the old one. A lot of people are playing a role to fit in society and go with the flow of their 'group'. Instead of being who they are and love the other (old or modern) for who he/she is...

If we all were more ignorant and less awake (like in the old days) relationships would be a lot less complicated...
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
(Friedrich Nietzsche)
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I cannot wait until it is just me again.

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