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Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’

 
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I will say this. I had this incredible urge to marry when I was younger, I was getting myself into relationship after relationship. It was really the only thing that mattered, keeping my girlfriend happy and secure.

Fast forward. About 3 years ago, I gave up on a girl I really loved, we had the same interests, always had a good time, I could talk to her for hours and never get bored. Legit. But she was materialistic, selfish, and sort of arrogant when it came to others. She was aware of this, and tried to work it out... long story short a bunch of stuff happened that could not be fixed. And we went our separate ways.

About 6 months after, I started cleaning out my diet, and working out. So much in fact that I feel like I began to change physically and psychologically. I was never in what a normal person would say would be considered out of shape, but there was definitely change.

About three after I have since cleaned my diet almost completely, I am lifting 6 days a week, training Brazillian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai.

I feel like I have changed completely. I do have a girlfriend, but I have no interest in marrying, my entire set of wants and needs has changed, I no longer prioritize the frivolous and materialistic things that used to keep girls happy.

I guess what I am trying to say, and in retrospect the massive contrast between how I feel now between how I felt then indicates to me that we have been demasculated as men.

Our food, our Television, even our music is destroying what it is to be a man. Even football and televised sporting lets males live vicariously through the acts of others.

Cable Television makes me sick these days. My girlfriend has it on and it literally makes my head hurt.

I changed how I lived, and I feel closer to what I am supposed to be.

I do love my girlfriend, but I am not going to sacrifice my health, my potential, and my life; for E entertainment television
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
I am a woman and I don't understand why women place so much importance on marriage.

Marriage is actually worse for women and better for men.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28039530


Yeah it's such a tragedy to get to stay home and have someone else go out and work for your food and shelter and then get to divorce him and continue to take half his paycheck even though he no longer gets to fuck you.

Boo fucking hoo.
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+1

Every one of these useless objects takes what is true about the downside of being men and then flips the script so that they can cry victim. They have no idea how stupid they look when they write stuff like that. Then again, the useless objects were never held accountable for their actions anyway and it comes as no surprise.
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I am a woman and I don't understand why women place so much importance on marriage.

Marriage is actually worse for women and better for men.
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I am a woman also and I totally agree with you.

I don't understand the rush. I enjoy being single. I get to take care of myself. Being single has allowed me to understand myself better and what I need or don't want in life.

It's better to get to know someone really well before giving them your time and effort and love.
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Because most men are only looking for someone to take care of them, while they persue selfish interest.
 Quoting: Pamelaantoinette


"woman is the "N" of the world" John Lennon

"A man works from sun to sun, but a woman's work is never done."

The world needs more mutual caretakers, both male and female.
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
Did anyone see the pc on tv yesterday where some study was done saying that 50% of the reason why marriages don't work is because the women will not put their spouse s first int he marriage and they need to? Then there were some crazy women who got pissed off and said , wait a min, no, we put our kids first, not the husband. Then men were saying that's exactly why we are divorcing your asses because you don't put us first anymore. It's always about you and the goddamn brats. The men are fucking tired of being put in second place when they are supposed to be the head of the household.


Might be some real truth to that one.
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Yeah it's such a tragedy to get to stay home and have someone else go out and work for your food and shelter and then get to divorce him and continue to take half his paycheck even though he no longer gets to fuck you.

Boo fucking hoo.

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Since some folks are still not seeing the light, I'll quote it in bold.
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
I just gotta say this to all of the woman haters out there.

There are some real women out here. There are women out here that take care of themselves physically, emotionally, spiritually and financially.

I for one can attest to the fact that there are some men out there that wanted to bum off of me while fucking around with other women. There are men out there that want to be homemakers and kept men or do an 'early retirement' because of all of their past women that screwed them over. I will not subscribe to this.

Also, if you guys want to meet real women, get past the insecurities and go after what you really want in life and in a partner.

There are decent women out here, there are plenty of us that want monogamy, that work, that pay the bills, that wash our own cars, that mow our own lawns, that are right with God, that are right with their friends and family, that don't live at the mall, that take care of the stray animals, that take care of the sick and vulnerable, that work out and aren't a bunch of liars and users.
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
I was married and my husband cheated - and I'm sure many will blame me for that..all of you men know other men that will cheat even when they have a great woman - so I dont want to hear it.

Regarless,I'm in my 40s, attractive, very sucessful, built a beautiful home, etc. No kids, help my family and friends.

I haven't dated for 12 years..why. Because most men are only looking for someone to take care of them, while they persue selfish interest.

Give me a break - a woman has to work and take care of everything on her own. Pay the bills, clean the house, do the shopping and cooking, hire contractors to fix things around the house while he sits on the couch or watches porn.

LOL.. yes, resonsible, ethical (and yes..attractive) women have changed becasue they're better off alone.

What a joke.
 Quoting: Pamelaantoinette


This^ I'm with you sister!!

Why should I bust my ass and support a cad, a lazy, a liar, a no good s.o.b?

I'm better off just supporting myself and staying stress free and attractive while I'm at it.
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
This topic is for men to vent about circumstances beyond their control. You useless objects should post your script flipping and phony sob stories in this one Thread: Womens thread only,, any here have taken plan b?
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
Heck Dutch females are even worst. My mother sayt to me dont marry. will only get you in trouble.

My older brother is hard learning, he made the mistake 3 times. First time he married a girl. 1 year later he divorced because she was sucking a other cock.

Second time he had a relationship for 10 years, that woman left him because he was in bad financial weather. My parent bailed him with the money issue.

current woman the 3rd. He has 2 childeren with her. I want to bash his face in the mirror. But he is a great brother, he is always there for us.

My parents are in there mid 60s. I'm 22 and I'm traveling the world like a mad man, i have been in more countries then i can remember. I visited the states for 2 weeks. Roaming the world alone and with my best friend.

My brother told me, Wish he had my life.

I dont care about money, I'm going Africa to help the people there. I hope to meet a person there that has same mind set.

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Heck Dutch females are even worst. My mother sayt to me dont marry. will only get you in trouble.

My older brother is hard learning, he made the mistake 3 times. First time he married a girl. 1 year later he divorced because she was sucking a other cock.

Second time he had a relationship for 10 years, that woman left him because he was in bad financial weather. My parent bailed him with the money issue.

current woman the 3rd. He has 2 childeren with her. I want to bash his face in the mirror. But he is a great brother, he is always there for us.

My parents are in there mid 60s. I'm 22 and I'm traveling the world like a mad man, i have been in more countries then i can remember. I visited the states for 2 weeks. Roaming the world alone and with my best friend.

My brother told me, Wish he had my life.

I dont care about money, I'm going Africa to help the people there. I hope to meet a person there that has same mind set.
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How do you travel the world,mate? i.e. Did you save up? Join a peace corps?
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
A big reason IMO is trust.

I cannot trust woman anymore - i got dumped several times(for no reason). Yes i treat them good - i am kind of a nice guy in a relationship because i don't want to change myself; and i thank god that i had no kids with these woman.

->paying alimony and not beeing allowed to see your kids can destroy your life.

Sure there are good woman out there also but finding them is the big problem.

I regularly read about weird suicides because the wife left with the cild - letting the guy all alone only to pay.
This shit has to stop.

;O)
But since we live in bad financial times the need for a happy relationship is near zero. Its all about surival right now.
And tbh do you really want to put a child into this debt slaved world?
I guess in the next 20 years there will be a world war - so do you want your kid to fight a war for nothing???

Think about it.
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i think women got the jump on the whole marriage-sucks-and-men-arent-worth-marrying-thing


not surprising really, given modern mans penchant for whining and demanding sandwiches
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After reading first two pages of this.....I start to think I live in some parallel dimension.....what a meaningless lives most of you have....it is sad.
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Start your own topic, lying feminist cunts.
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
"we will have robots in the future to replace women, cook better,clean better, listen better,raise kids better and better sex."

I'm going to elect you as "Robot Repair Man", specializing in "Glory Hole" repairs?
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
Heck Dutch females are even worst. My mother sayt to me dont marry. will only get you in trouble.

My older brother is hard learning, he made the mistake 3 times. First time he married a girl. 1 year later he divorced because she was sucking a other cock.

Second time he had a relationship for 10 years, that woman left him because he was in bad financial weather. My parent bailed him with the money issue.

current woman the 3rd. He has 2 childeren with her. I want to bash his face in the mirror. But he is a great brother, he is always there for us.

My parents are in there mid 60s. I'm 22 and I'm traveling the world like a mad man, i have been in more countries then i can remember. I visited the states for 2 weeks. Roaming the world alone and with my best friend.

My brother told me, Wish he had my life.

I dont care about money, I'm going Africa to help the people there. I hope to meet a person there that has same mind set.
 Quoting: Tigershield


How do you travel the world,mate? i.e. Did you save up? Join a peace corps?
 Quoting: KingofThorns


Work,small Savings,parents that support me. I wasted precious time as a teenager, so the local goverment placed me in a hospital to help people there, first with old people that needed allot of attention.

Then i asked if i could work with patients that have mental problems. The local goverment hesitated in first try. I told them i had expierence with such behaviour, cause my father has such problems.

They still refused. In the mean time my father made a attempt to commit suicide. My middle brother and I saved him, he stabbed himself in the stomach with a large cooking knife. After that they agreed.

Now i assist the doctors in First Aid situations.

Atm i have 2 choices either becoming ambulance brother, or going to Africa, I made my decision to go to Africa. It aint safe i know that.

I want to train in firearms tho. You never now in what kind of situation you mght get.

I seen my fair share of flesh wounds in a short time.
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
Perhaps it is due to men no longer being allowed to be men in our dismal economy and the lack of employment opportunities males give up because they cannot support themselves never mind a wife and family.

Perhaps younger females are falling back to males as the protector and breadwinner while males are simply lost and unable to use their initiative and creativity due to socialism and the government fostering an ever-growing dependent class.

Think beyond the box is a saying lost upon those who never learned how to seek their niche in life.
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clappa
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:2e3r4t2352:
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I hate to break this to you...but in 10 years time she'll have a mustache and look just like her mother (who is indistinguishable from her father)!
Always look at the mother and the size of the ass coz that sucker NEVER stops growing...
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cruise
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You know, I sent over 1000 ''meet me'' invitations on Plenty of Fish and I only got about three responses from fat chicks.
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anon
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
Good for them. Women are brianwashed from birth with fairytales to expect to be with a man, like it's then end-all-be-all purpose for their life.

The next generation of women won't be that stupid. It will even out.
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Re: Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
This topic is for men to vent about circumstances beyond their control. You useless objects should post your script flipping and phony sob stories in this one Thread: Womens thread only,, any here have taken plan b?
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LOL! ..Aaaand these aren't flipping and phony sob stories in this thread?

When you stop blaming everything else for your problems, maybe someone worthwhile will come into your life.
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This topic is for men to vent about circumstances beyond their control. You useless objects should post your script flipping and phony sob stories in this one Thread: Womens thread only,, any here have taken plan b?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25867801


LOL! ..Aaaand these aren't flipping and phony sob stories in this thread?

When you stop blaming everything else for your problems, maybe someone worthwhile will come into your life.
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Let me get this straight, it's my fault that the state sides with her even if she was the one wanting out. Even if she was the one cheating. Even if she got caught lying, right? Fuck you.

If you tools of the elite have experiences of your own then start another topic. I don't want to read your horror stories of getting away from a man you got bored of being with and how the state didn't make him pay enough. Start your own topic. Don't tell your "horror" stories in this one.
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There is much work to be done.
There is nothing so powerful as truth, and often nothing so strange ~ Daniel Webster

Omnia Vincit Amor ~ Virgil

The more you learn, the less you know ~ Socrates

That writer does the most, who gives his reader the most knowledge, and takes from him the least time. ~ Charles Caleb Colton
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The good men, like me, get burnt once and learn our lesson. I did everything in the world for my wife for 16 years only to have her betray me. She even admitted to everyone it's her fault but it's "her life and she can do what she wants". I doubt I'll ever marry again, but if I do it will be to an Asian or some other culture where the women aren't raised to be psychotic hippos who are never happy. American women SUCK. Yes, there are exceptions but they're few and far between. All the good ones are snatched up young and for a 40 year old like me the choices are divorced moms looking for a payday, or young golddiggers. I'll pass.
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+1 bro..
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I am a woman and I don't understand why women place so much importance on marriage.

Marriage is actually worse for women and better for men.
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It was worse for women 100 years ago but now it's the opposite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30262762


Not really. I think it is actually worse for women now, due to the feminist movement. I suggest you watch some of this woman's vids on feminism. Very insightful.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Yeah it's such a tragedy to get to stay home and have someone else go out and work for your food and shelter and then get to divorce him and continue to take half his paycheck even though he no longer gets to fuck you.

Boo fucking hoo.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31847602


Since some folks are still not seeing the light, I'll quote it in bold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25867801


Give me an effin break! I was the SAHM for years and then got divorced and let ME put it in bold for you buddy - staying at home with kids all day is a hell of a lot harder than going to your job from 9 to 5!! (Or 6 to 3 or whatever it is), where you get to socialize, and get PAID for your WORK. That is what a lot of you men don't GET. Women stay at home and raise the kids and you think that is worth ZERO dollars??? REALLY??? How about this? My ex doesn't pay anything right now because he's too worried that anything he pays will be used towards something for me - laughably - since I WORK for minimum wage whilst he has NO job and lives off his parent's money. So pray tell, where do you get off with this B.S. about half the paycheck and the shelter? ANd if one parent, whether the mother or father, had primary custody and is doing the majority of the care of the kids, they SHOULD have the house. I don't care if that person is the father, the person with primary custody should have the house. Even more ridiculous, most of you don't even have equity in your homes and still whine because your ex wives have the privelage of paying the mortgage on a house worth less than what you paid for. Good Lord, stop giving your gender a bad name. Not all men are like you losers. Give it up and get a life!
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There ARE a *few* decent women out there, however they are the exception and not the rule. You just have to find a woman who is nice and humble. They do exist.

The vast majority that I have dated believe they are God's gift to the world and expect to be pampered by men, like they are owed something just because they are attractive and female. Most women also believe in finding "Mr. Right" which really means they are looking for a guy who is PERFECT (which doesn't exist). The ones like this usually haven't progressed much since high school and are gossipy, catty, and immature. That type of woman isn't worth your time of day.
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Yeah it's such a tragedy to get to stay home and have someone else go out and work for your food and shelter and then get to divorce him and continue to take half his paycheck even though he no longer gets to fuck you.

Boo fucking hoo.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31847602


Since some folks are still not seeing the light, I'll quote it in bold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25867801


Give me an effin break! I was the SAHM for years and then got divorced and let ME put it in bold for you buddy - staying at home with kids all day is a hell of a lot harder than going to your job from 9 to 5!! (Or 6 to 3 or whatever it is), where you get to socialize, and get PAID for your WORK. That is what a lot of you men don't GET. Women stay at home and raise the kids and you think that is worth ZERO dollars??? REALLY??? How about this? My ex doesn't pay anything right now because he's too worried that anything he pays will be used towards something for me - laughably - since I WORK for minimum wage whilst he has NO job and lives off his parent's money. So pray tell, where do you get off with this B.S. about half the paycheck and the shelter? ANd if one parent, whether the mother or father, had primary custody and is doing the majority of the care of the kids, they SHOULD have the house. I don't care if that person is the father, the person with primary custody should have the house. Even more ridiculous, most of you don't even have equity in your homes and still whine because your ex wives have the privelage of paying the mortgage on a house worth less than what you paid for. Good Lord, stop giving your gender a bad name. Not all men are like you losers. Give it up and get a life!
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Didn't read it. Don't care. Fuck off.

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