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Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’

 
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The good men, like me, get burnt once and learn our lesson. I did everything in the world for my wife for 16 years only to have her betray me. She even admitted to everyone it's her fault but it's "her life and she can do what she wants". I doubt I'll ever marry again, but if I do it will be to an Asian or some other culture where the women aren't raised to be psychotic hippos who are never happy. American women SUCK. Yes, there are exceptions but they're few and far between. All the good ones are snatched up young and for a 40 year old like me the choices are divorced moms looking for a payday, or young golddiggers. I'll pass.
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+1 bro..
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Lol...but the Asian or some other foreigner will love you for YOU, right? Lol....

Also, I wasn't aware young women and divorced women are all out for your vast riches. As a divorced woman, I'm quite content to live paycheck to paycheck without the drama of a relationship. You think men are the only ones who get "burned"? Good luck with your foreigner.
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the day women were allowed to vote marked the beginning of this great country's downfall. you're welcome.
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There ARE a *few* decent women out there, however they are the exception and not the rule. You just have to find a woman who is nice and humble. They do exist.

The vast majority that I have dated believe they are God's gift to the world and expect to be pampered by men, like they are owed something just because they are attractive and female. Most women also believe in finding "Mr. Right" which really means they are looking for a guy who is PERFECT (which doesn't exist). The ones like this usually haven't progressed much since high school and are gossipy, catty, and immature. That type of woman isn't worth your time of day.
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People aren`t the same regardless of sex.Society as a whole has degraded and it`s a me first world now.Gone are the days of chivalry and doing the right thing,and gone are the days of making it work for the kids sake.Nowadays we have a 60% divorce rate, infidelity is at a all time high and everyone puts there own wants and needs first,everyone else comes second.It`s the very antithesis of how a modern civilization needs to interact with one another.
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From the number of teenage girls in porn on the internet, I would guess that they are not interested in marriage either.

Not that I look at that sort of thing....

hmmmmm67
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The good men, like me, get burnt once and learn our lesson. I did everything in the world for my wife for 16 years only to have her betray me. She even admitted to everyone it's her fault but it's "her life and she can do what she wants". I doubt I'll ever marry again, but if I do it will be to an Asian or some other culture where the women aren't raised to be psychotic hippos who are never happy. American women SUCK. Yes, there are exceptions but they're few and far between. All the good ones are snatched up young and for a 40 year old like me the choices are divorced moms looking for a payday, or young golddiggers. I'll pass.
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that is a global issue, they brainwashed us all :)


don't take it on the american women...
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When it comes to love it's rarely a two way street, 99.99% of relationships work in such a way where one person loves and the other allows themselves to be loved, but in such a materialistic and adulterous generation there is no hope left of saving marriage and bringing back the religious and mutual love aspect to it.
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Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes to me.

I've been with my wife for 30 years. I reckon I just got lucky or chose well, right?

And all those married couples I know--just lucky.

Maybe you guys are making bad choices or something.
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Their is a generational difference. The women of today are NOT the women of 30 years ago. It's a needle in a haystack trying to find a decent woman. I'm at least average looking, extremely fit, kind to a fault, and make almost 200k a year. All the promising women I've dated end up being huge disappointments. Liars, cheaters, gold diggers. It's not just me. Good guys finish last in our society of predatory feminazis.
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Very sad....

Dysfunctional Families produce dysfunctional people...

The family has been under attack for a number of years now...


I come from a traditional family and I have a traditional marriage....


Apples usually don't fall far from the trees...
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There are a few wonderful young women in my church but I'm almost 40, too old for them. Guys like me that committed to one woman only to be betrayed halfway thru life are screwed.
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Screw the numbers. Give them a polite smile on your way out, see how they react... So what if you're 40? It's not an illness.

Get up soldier, there's a war going on out there!

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The good men, like me, get burnt once and learn our lesson. I did everything in the world for my wife for 16 years only to have her betray me. She even admitted to everyone it's her fault but it's "her life and she can do what she wants". I doubt I'll ever marry again, but if I do it will be to an Asian or some other culture where the women aren't raised to be psychotic hippos who are never happy. American women SUCK. Yes, there are exceptions but they're few and far between. All the good ones are snatched up young and for a 40 year old like me the choices are divorced moms looking for a payday, or young golddiggers. I'll pass.
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that is a global issue, they brainwashed us all :)


don't take it on the american women...
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I hope our friend reads this.
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The good men, like me, get burnt once and learn our lesson. I did everything in the world for my wife for 16 years only to have her betray me. She even admitted to everyone it's her fault but it's "her life and she can do what she wants". I doubt I'll ever marry again, but if I do it will be to an Asian or some other culture where the women aren't raised to be psychotic hippos who are never happy. American women SUCK. Yes, there are exceptions but they're few and far between. All the good ones are snatched up young and for a 40 year old like me the choices are divorced moms looking for a payday, or young golddiggers. I'll pass.
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that is a global issue, they brainwashed us all :)


don't take it on the american women...
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I can testify about Asian women. I was with one for nearly a decade. Lies and theft. Expensive lesson learned.

Women aren't women anymore. Globally.

I'm a happy single now and I'd like to keep it that way.
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"how? most men expect their wives to work full time, raise kids full time, cook and clean full time and take care of their men full time while the man just works and comes home and sits and watches tv and plays video games. that is no life at all."

That's exactly it. Women work full time and are the primary caretakers of the kids and do the domestic work. No wonder a woman in a situation like that spurns sex and eats comfort food. She doesn't have a strong man complementing her strengths and being father to the kid-- she's essentially taking care of yet another kid.

Men aren't men anymore, either. To be fair, I think there's something hormonal behind it all. Maybe it's all the soy or the BPA? Maybe it's due to obesity-- since fat tissue generates estrogen in both women and men?

I can't tell you how many men I've met the last several years who groom and primp themselves constantly, and incessantly discuss their every little emotion. They get sensitive and easily hurt over things MEN - real men - are supposed to be tough enough to shrug off.

Some will post things on message boards lamenting women not coming up to them and asking them out. They don't seem to realize the sheer testosterone and manliness it takes to be the aggressor is part of what attracts women to men-- that's why women don't take the lead and ask them out. If they have to do it, then it's probably not the sort of man they're attracted to, anyway.

The shy, tentative person blushing in the corner is not supposed to be the guy.

My father or grandfather would never have acted like touchy little girls. It's like testosterone is in short supply.
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I am tired at the moment.

Hopefully I will respond to you in the morning.

I have a few important things to say.
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The good men, like me, get burnt once and learn our lesson. I did everything in the world for my wife for 16 years only to have her betray me. She even admitted to everyone it's her fault but it's "her life and she can do what she wants". I doubt I'll ever marry again, but if I do it will be to an Asian or some other culture where the women aren't raised to be psychotic hippos who are never happy. American women SUCK. Yes, there are exceptions but they're few and far between. All the good ones are snatched up young and for a 40 year old like me the choices are divorced moms looking for a payday, or young golddiggers. I'll pass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30688956



that is a global issue, they brainwashed us all :)


don't take it on the american women...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35447637


I can testify about Asian women. I was with one for nearly a decade. Lies and theft. Expensive lesson learned.

Women aren't women anymore. Globally.

I'm a happy single now and I'd like to keep it that way.
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This is life.

I say take it like a man :)) no complaints :)))
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"how? most men expect their wives to work full time, raise kids full time, cook and clean full time and take care of their men full time while the man just works and comes home and sits and watches tv and plays video games. that is no life at all."

That's exactly it. Women work full time and are the primary caretakers of the kids and do the domestic work. No wonder a woman in a situation like that spurns sex and eats comfort food. She doesn't have a strong man complementing her strengths and being father to the kid-- she's essentially taking care of yet another kid.

Men aren't men anymore, either. To be fair, I think there's something hormonal behind it all. Maybe it's all the soy or the BPA? Maybe it's due to obesity-- since fat tissue generates estrogen in both women and men?

I can't tell you how many men I've met the last several years who groom and primp themselves constantly, and incessantly discuss their every little emotion. They get sensitive and easily hurt over things MEN - real men - are supposed to be tough enough to shrug off.

Some will post things on message boards lamenting women not coming up to them and asking them out. They don't seem to realize the sheer testosterone and manliness it takes to be the aggressor is part of what attracts women to men-- that's why women don't take the lead and ask them out. If they have to do it, then it's probably not the sort of man they're attracted to, anyway.

The shy, tentative person blushing in the corner is not supposed to be the guy.

My father or grandfather would never have acted like touchy little girls. It's like testosterone is in short supply.
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clappa Great post. I was married once at 19. My "husband" got a free cook/housekeeper/caregiver and took all my paycheck plus his for 13 years. I got to work and hand over the money. Got rid of him. I will never marry again
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The good men, like me, get burnt once and learn our lesson. I did everything in the world for my wife for 16 years only to have her betray me. She even admitted to everyone it's her fault but it's "her life and she can do what she wants". I doubt I'll ever marry again, but if I do it will be to an Asian or some other culture where the women aren't raised to be psychotic hippos who are never happy. American women SUCK. Yes, there are exceptions but they're few and far between. All the good ones are snatched up young and for a 40 year old like me the choices are divorced moms looking for a payday, or young golddiggers. I'll pass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30688956



that is a global issue, they brainwashed us all :)


don't take it on the american women...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35447637


I can testify about Asian women. I was with one for nearly a decade. Lies and theft. Expensive lesson learned.

Women aren't women anymore. Globally.

I'm a happy single now and I'd like to keep it that way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35451655




This is life.

I say take it like a man :)) no complaints :)))
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As a woman, I find most men are overly obsessed with sex, not in a normal way, in a manufactured, coping-mechanism way as is the case with porn addictions and the disturbing increase in violent porn viewing and incest and the like.

Women are not stupid, they are well aware of all of this and we just don't find sex that appealing anymore knowing we are more objectified than ever in the history of mankind. It is NOT a fun time to be a woman. Was it fun 100yrs ago? I am guessing "fun" is not the word, but satisfying, meaningful, purposeful, and men were earnest, honest and instilled values and morals in their children.

I may be biased since my own sperm donor left the scene shortly before I was born, but then I also married a man who was willing to live across the world from the two children we had. He only came back, apparently, to torment me. He tried match.com and failed miserably at that. He is very bitter now and imagines I am out meeting guys all the tme and getting laid whenever I want lol. The truth is that is not happening at all. In fact, men don't even approach me. I am 39 but I don't look it,

I have perused these dating sites and I think it's quite humorous that nearly all the men my age are looking for women 25-35, and not for child-bearing purposes, so right there you let women know what a doosh you are and that a woman your own age or God forbid a few years older is simply a dried up old hag. My ex asked for a woman 5-15 yrs younger than himself. Small wonder he got no responses. Women are not stupid. We are as sick of superficial sex-obsessed men as you are of the women you describe in this thread.

It works both ways, I can give my POV and I am honestly thinking I am done with men. Heck yes I get very lonely but it just isn't worth it, and seeing how men comment on women my age or if your boobs aren't still where they were when you were 20, etc...and the whole sex obsession and how young is so much better. I mean, give me one reason why I should bother? I have taken good care of myself, very fit, pretty face, and here I am done with men. Well, good luck to you all with your foreign women and 25 yr odl tight girls, you are the ones to blame for your loneliness because of your superficiality. I won't even contact a man who would put in his ad that I am too old. And I don't want any 50 yr old man, how about someone my age give or take a few years? Well ok, since I am done with men I might as well join the club and behave like you guys and start finding 25 yr old men to service me, no strings attached. Isn't that what you'd all love to have? Just young women to have sex with you? Mainly yes, I believe that IS what you want, companionship is the bullshit 2nd place thing but sex is always what it's really about.
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"how? most men expect their wives to work full time, raise kids full time, cook and clean full time and take care of their men full time while the man just works and comes home and sits and watches tv and plays video games. that is no life at all."

That's exactly it. Women work full time and are the primary caretakers of the kids and do the domestic work. No wonder a woman in a situation like that spurns sex and eats comfort food. She doesn't have a strong man complementing her strengths and being father to the kid-- she's essentially taking care of yet another kid.

Men aren't men anymore, either. To be fair, I think there's something hormonal behind it all. Maybe it's all the soy or the BPA? Maybe it's due to obesity-- since fat tissue generates estrogen in both women and men?

I can't tell you how many men I've met the last several years who groom and primp themselves constantly, and incessantly discuss their every little emotion. They get sensitive and easily hurt over things MEN - real men - are supposed to be tough enough to shrug off.

Some will post things on message boards lamenting women not coming up to them and asking them out. They don't seem to realize the sheer testosterone and manliness it takes to be the aggressor is part of what attracts women to men-- that's why women don't take the lead and ask them out. If they have to do it, then it's probably not the sort of man they're attracted to, anyway.

The shy, tentative person blushing in the corner is not supposed to be the guy.

My father or grandfather would never have acted like touchy little girls. It's like testosterone is in short supply.
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clappa Great post. I was married once at 19. My "husband" got a free cook/housekeeper/caregiver and took all my paycheck plus his for 13 years. I got to work and hand over the money. Got rid of him. I will never marry again
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If you retards don't understand the difference between the time your grandfolks grew up in and present day, then you're too dumb to even have a conversation with.

You didn't get assraped by the state. You were able to just walk away. Cry me a river.
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Take a look at ANY dating site and notice a good 92 percent of the women on them already have kids, some by obvious multiple fathers. These same women are no doubt living with their parents, a bf *sucker who doesn't know she is looking to switch johns*, or they are on the welfare system.
These same broads with their multiple children *no doubt multiple personalities as well* think their shit is so diamond encrusted and beautiful they DEMAND that some Joe-schmo must have a nice new car, an excellent job, six pack abs, ripped, etc, etc.
They are perpetual children that still have glittery wall paper, listen to rap or mainstream music, often mention under favorite books description that "They do not read".
They are used up and dumb yet they feel entitled to demand?
Makes zero sense.
I recommend to any single guy who has a hard on just walk on by when you see some broad with multiple kids and thinks she is some sort of goddess.
Pay attention to the signs, save your soul, dick and heart from stds and destruction.
Always wear protection that YOU bought and never let it out of your site, these psychos will punch holes in your condom just to get another check.
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I'm a woman and yeah there are women out there like that, and yep, guys who fall for the sexual attraction despite the fact that the woman is crazy, dumb and needy. But really, how dare you say the percentage of such women is anywhere near 92%, on dating sites or in real life. I would say it's maybe 10% at best, and whose fault is it but the man's that they are also too stupid to see the warning signs? To be truthful the guys I know who stayed with these sorts of women are verbally and sometimes physically abusive to the women and prey upon their low self-esteem and are absolutely open to cheating if the opportunity were to arise, so tell me exactly how these men are "victims", because what I see is that they are victimizers!

It's not about "common sense". These guys are not babies and don't need someone to tell them when a woman is bad news. They prey upon her. There are a lot of bad men out there to take up with these loser women. And I am always surprised by how long these men stick around too, and the women especially since many times these men (really "boys") demand oral sex and criticize the womens' bodies and won't go down on them, etc. It becomes all about power to these men. Trust me, if a guy hooks up with one of these women you describe it's because HE has issues!! Not because he is too stupid to know what he is getting into!
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There's a video out there of a black guy porking that fat ass.
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the day women were allowed to vote marked the beginning of this great country's downfall. you're welcome.
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I could sum up the responses in this topic from women in three sentences.

1) The odds are stacked against you but I'm the victim.

2) There's nothing you could do to satisfy her but you're to blame.

3) A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.
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facebook is the easiest way to pick up married women. and the main cause of a lot of divorces.
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I am a woman and I don't understand why women place so much importance on marriage.

Marriage is actually worse for women and better for men.
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Exactly!
clappa

Just brainwashed desperate naive dumb women!
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How the fuck is marriage bad for women but good for men???? That is the stupidest post of the day.
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To sum it up in my opinion, people have turned away from what God has to say about marriage, and structure of society. God is infinitely more wise than any human, but people still don't seek His counsel.

Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you.-- Matt.6:33

The government has been allowed to make punitive, unjust laws concerning divorce, alimony and child support payments. I'm not saying there should not be any laws concerning support payments: just get it reasonable.
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Boohoo. Are there any women left on this site? I can only imagine how much of BS one can put up with before pulling the plug on this site.

Times have changed, and the economy sucks. It puts strain on a relationship, but other than that, everything between men and women is the same as it's always been. Stop all the women-bashing on this site, seriously.
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The good men, like me, get burnt once and learn our lesson. I did everything in the world for my wife for 16 years only to have her betray me. She even admitted to everyone it's her fault but it's "her life and she can do what she wants". I doubt I'll ever marry again, but if I do it will be to an Asian or some other culture where the women aren't raised to be psychotic hippos who are never happy. American women SUCK. Yes, there are exceptions but they're few and far between. All the good ones are snatched up young and for a 40 year old like me the choices are divorced moms looking for a payday, or young golddiggers. I'll pass.
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"psychotic hippos"

Highly apt definition.
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I am a woman and I don't understand why women place so much importance on marriage.

Marriage is actually worse for women and better for men.
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It was worse for women 100 years ago but now it's the opposite.
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women get custody most of the time, and often much more in alimony, child support etc. Yes, there are tons of douchebag males out there, but they get the news because women tend to marry/go for deadbeats, even 'rich' deadbeats...meanwhile, plenty of nice guys are ignored...this is the pattern I see in america at least. Never been married, and definitely won't if I ever end up with a sizable income. It's hard to trust people in our monetized culture.
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I am a woman and I don't understand why women place so much importance on marriage.

Marriage is actually worse for women and better for men.
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Exactly!
clappa

Just brainwashed desperate naive dumb women!
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How the fuck is marriage bad for women but good for men???? That is the stupidest post of the day.
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Both men and women work full time outside of the home. But women have another full time job at home looking after the kids and the house, cooking etc. (Speaking for the majority of cases, obviously there are exceptions.)
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Boohoo. Are there any women left on this site? I can only imagine how much of BS one can put up with before pulling the plug on this site.

Times have changed, and the economy sucks. It puts strain on a relationship, but other than that, everything between men and women is the same as it's always been. Stop all the women-bashing on this site, seriously.
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Yes I agree.

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