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What is people's gripe with Freemasons

 
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What is people's gripe with Freemasons
I know a lot of them, they seem like normal people. A lot of them are Christian mystics. They are not involved in NWO. Mainly white people are involved.
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I know a lot of them, they seem like normal people. A lot of them are Christian mystics. They are not involved in NWO. Mainly white people are involved.
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You dont know shit...
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This is especially the case with conspiracy forums.
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I know a lot of them, they seem like normal people. A lot of them are Christian mystics. They are not involved in NWO. Mainly white people are involved.
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You dont know shit...
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I know 33rd degree masons.
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And? They aint gonna tell you shit. They couldnt if they wanted to..
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Well they murdered I don't how many million Frenchmen during the French Revolution. Masons ran the whole thing, that's historical fact. Princip who started WWI was also a Mason. That's a couple of examples of why you should never trust them.

Masons have been history's degenerate subversives and revolutionaries for about 700 years.
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Hymn To Satan by Giosue Carducci (a Freemason)

To you, creation’s
mighty principle,
matter and spirit
reason and sense

Whilst the wine
sparkles in cups
like the soul
in the eye

Whilst earth and
sun exchange
their smiles and
words of love

And shudders
from their secret embrace run down
from the mountains, and
the plain throbs with new life

To you my daring
verses are unleashed,
you I invoke, O Satan
monarch of the feast.

Put aside your sprinkler,
priest, and your litanies!
No, priest, Satan
does not retreat!

Behold! Rust
erodes the mystic
sword of Michael
and the faithful

Archangel, deplumed,
drops into the void.
The thunderbolt lies frozen
in Jove’s hand

Like pale meteors,
spent worlds,
the angels drop
from the firmament

In unsleeping
matter,
king of phenomena,
monarch of form,

Satan alone lives.
He holds sway in
the tremulous flash
of some dark eye,

Or the eye which languidly
turns and resists,
or which, bright and moist,
provokes, insists.

He shines in the bright
blood of grapes,
by which transient
joy persists,

Which restores fleeting
life, keeps
grief at bay,
and inspires us with love

You breathe, O Satan
in my verses,
when from my heart explodes
a challenge to the god

Of wicked pontiffs,
bloody kings;
and like lightning you
shock men’s minds.

Sculpture, painting
and poetry
first lived for you, Ahriman,
Adonis and Astarte,

When Venus
Anadyomene
blessed the
clear Ionian skies

For you the trees of
Lebannon shook,
resurrected lover
of the holy Cyprian:

For you wild dances were done
and choruses swelled
for you virgins offered
their spotless love,

Amongst the perfumed
palms of Idumea
where the Cyprian
seas foam.

To what avail did
the barbarous Christian
fury of agape,
in obscene ritual,

With holy torch
burn down your temples,
scattering their
Greek statuary?

You, a refugee,
the mindful people
welcomed into their homes
amongst their household gods

Thereafter filling the throbbing
female heart
with your fervor
as both god and lover

You inspired the witch,
pallid from endless enquiry,
to succor
suffering nature

You, to the intent gaze
of the alchemist,
and to the skeptical eye
of the sorcerer,

You revealed bright
new heavens
beyond the confines
of the drowsy cloister.

Fleeing from material
things, where you reside,
the dreary monk took refuge
in the Theban desert.

To you O soul
with your sprig severed,
Satan is benign:
he gives you your Heloise.

You mortify yourself to no purpose,
in your rough sackcloth:
Satan still murmurs to you
lines from Maro and Flaccus

Amidst the dirge
and wailing of the Psalms;
and he brings to your side
the divine shapes,

Roseate amidst that
horrid black crowd,
of Lycoris
and Glycera

But other shapes
from a more glorious age
fitfully fill
the sleepless cell.

Satan, from pages
in Livy, conjures fervent
tribunes, consuls,
restless throngs;

And he thrusts you,
O monk, with your memories
of Italy’s proud past
upon the Capitol.

And you whom the raging
pyre could not destroy,
voices of destiny,
Wycliffe and Huss,

You lift to the winds
your waning cry:
‘The new age is dawning,
the time has come’.

And already mitres
and crowns tremble:
from the cloister
rebellion rumbles

Preaching defiance
in the voice of the
cassocked Girolamo
Savonarola

As Martin Luther
threw off his monkish robes,
so throw off your shackles,
O mind of man,

And crowned with flame,
shoot lightning and thunder;
Matter, arise;
Satan has won.

Both beautiful and awful
a monster is unleashed
it scours the oceans
is scours the land

Glittering and belching smoke
like a volcano,
it conquers the hills
it devours the plains.

It flies over chasms,
then burrows
into unknown caverns
along deepest paths;

To re-emerge, unconquerable
from shore to shore
it bellows out
like a whirlwind,

Like a whirlwind
it spews its breath:
‘It is Satan, you peoples,
Great Satan passes by’.

He passes by, bringing blessing
from place to place,
upon his unstoppable
chariot of fire

Hail, O Satan
O rebellion,
O you avenging force
of human reason!

Let holy incense
and prayers rise to you!
You have utterly vanquished
the Jehova of the Priests.
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I can't figure it out either. They're evil, they're not evil, they've been infiltrated, etc.

We'll probably never know the truth.
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I can't figure it out either. They're evil, they're not evil, they've been infiltrated, etc.

We'll probably never know the truth.
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We've known the truth for centuries, big hint -
they are a secret society
sworn to blind and total obedience.
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Re: What is people's gripe with Freemasons
when it comes to masons, people, especially those on conspiracy sites on the internet dont know shit about them.

its worrying to think your so dumb.

op is right, masons have nothing to do with any of this.

its just woo woo fringe shit being regurgitated over and over..


let me guess, how many of you online reading this right now have any first hand knowledge of any mason doing something they should not have...

i bet not one!
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I can't figure it out either. They're evil, they're not evil, they've been infiltrated, etc.

We'll probably never know the truth.
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We've known the truth for centuries, big hint -
they are a secret society
sworn to blind and total obedience.
 Quoting: K.Kool


look they are not a secret society, if they were, you would not know about them.

duh!
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Freemason is rooted in jewish mysticsm. It is occultic.

They are primarily anti-catholic. They are sent by the devil to destroy gods church.
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OP you don't know dick about dick.

Now go have a sex orgy for Hiram Abiff...i mean Nimrod.
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when it comes to masons, people, especially those on conspiracy sites on the internet dont know shit about them.

its worrying to think your so dumb.

op is right, masons have nothing to do with any of this.

its just woo woo fringe shit being regurgitated over and over..


let me guess, how many of you online reading this right now have any first hand knowledge of any mason doing something they should not have...

i bet not one!
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Uhum...
they are a secret society
in their eyes, we are the profane, and have no business
knowing what they do in their efforts to control the world.
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Here's another reason to hate them:

Thread: HOLY SHIT!!! THE MASONS HAVE JUST BEEN IMPLICATED IN THE UK PAEDO RING BY THE MSM.
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I can't figure it out either. They're evil, they're not evil, they've been infiltrated, etc.

We'll probably never know the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32035264



We've known the truth for centuries, big hint -
they are a secret society
sworn to blind and total obedience.
 Quoting: K.Kool


look they are not a secret society, if they were, you would not know about them.

duh!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32060605



LOL, it only means they haven't been all that successful,
due to the vigilance of the Church, and awake people through the centuries.
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Well the Son of Sam's are run by the LOTTsChildren(Rothschild)

and they're all satanic...

Bullshit family history from Wiki...


Family
Mayer Amschel Rothschild married Guttle Schnapper (1753–1849), the daughter of Wolf Salomon Schnapper, on 29 August 1770.[10] They had the following children:

Schönche Jeannette Rothschild (20 August 1771 – 1859) - married Benedikt Moses Worms (1772–1824)
Amschel "Anselm" Mayer (12 June 1773 – 6 December 1855)
Salomon Mayer (9 September 1774 – 28 July 1855) - founder of the Rothschild banking family of Austria
Nathan Mayer (16 September 1777 – 18 July 1836) - founder of the Rothschild banking family of England
Isabella Rothschild (2 July 1781 – 1861)
Babette Rothschild (29 August 1784 – 16 March 1869)
Calmann "Carl" Mayer (24 April 1788 – 10 March 1855) - founder of the Rothschild banking family of Naples
Julie Rothschild (1 May 1790 – 19 June 1815)
Henriette ("Jette") (1791–1866) married Abraham Montefiore (1788–1824)
Jacob "James" Mayer (1792–1868) - founder of the Rothschild banking family of France


All the names are fake.

...Wolf Salmon Snapper....wtf

...Benedict Moses Worms.....errrrr are you serious? LOL


And where are the Bauer's...

Mayer Amschel is just an anagram for Mary Ram Skull

Ram Skulls + Lott's Child = Masons..Son of Sam

Mayers + Bauer's = Bayer family.

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Re: What is people's gripe with Freemasons
I can't figure it out either. They're evil, they're not evil, they've been infiltrated, etc.

We'll probably never know the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32035264



We've known the truth for centuries, big hint -
they are a secret society
sworn to blind and total obedience.
 Quoting: K.Kool


look they are not a secret society, if they were, you would not know about them.

duh!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32060605



LOL, it only means they haven't been all that successful,
due to the vigilance of the Church, and awake people through the centuries.
 Quoting: K.Kool


please just go learn something ok?

you have no idea what you are talking about.
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I can't figure it out either. They're evil, they're not evil, they've been infiltrated, etc.

We'll probably never know the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32035264



We've known the truth for centuries, big hint -
they are a secret society
sworn to blind and total obedience.
 Quoting: K.Kool


look they are not a secret society, if they were, you would not know about them.

duh!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32060605



LOL, it only means they haven't been all that successful,
due to the vigilance of the Church, and awake people through the centuries.
 Quoting: K.Kool


wow wow woooo

did you say vigilance of the church?

do you know anythign of the knights of malta?
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We've known the truth for centuries, big hint -
they are a secret society
sworn to blind and total obedience.
 Quoting: K.Kool


look they are not a secret society, if they were, you would not know about them.

duh!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32060605



LOL, it only means they haven't been all that successful,
due to the vigilance of the Church, and awake people through the centuries.
 Quoting: K.Kool


please just go learn something ok?

you have no idea what you are talking about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32060605




Lame response. Try again.
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look they are not a secret society, if they were, you would not know about them.

duh!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32060605



LOL, it only means they haven't been all that successful,
due to the vigilance of the Church, and awake people through the centuries.
 Quoting: K.Kool


please just go learn something ok?

you have no idea what you are talking about.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32060605




Lame response. Try again.
 Quoting: K.Kool


id rather not, its obviously a waste of my time.
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We've known the truth for centuries, big hint -
they are a secret society
sworn to blind and total obedience.
 Quoting: K.Kool


look they are not a secret society, if they were, you would not know about them.

duh!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32060605



LOL, it only means they haven't been all that successful,
due to the vigilance of the Church, and awake people through the centuries.
 Quoting: K.Kool


wow wow woooo

did you say vigilance of the church?

do you know anythign of the knights of malta?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32060605



Going to dig into history are you?

[link to www.newadvent.org]

what is your problem with them?
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The Sin of Masonry (all these are done in the Entered Apprentice degree)

1)Ware an apron to cover their Sin that they deny.
2)Worship the creature more than the creator.
3)Reject Christ as the Stone that has become the head of the Corner.
4)Practice Secret (curious) arts
5)Worship in a Synagogue built 180 degrees backwards from Solomons.
6)Given a new Name
7)Call men Master who are not Jesus Christ.
8)Take oaths (Blood oaths where they expect to be killed if broken)
9)Call men their brothers who Reject Christ.

Evidence and Scriptural proofs.
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1)Whare an apron to cover their Sin that they deny.

Gen 03:07 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they [were] naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Masonry:
Capt. William M. Morgan Exposition of freemasonry(P. 24)

The Master returns to his seat while the Wardens are examining the candidate, and gets a lambskin or white apron, presents it to the candidate, and observes, "Brother, I now present you with a lambskin or white apron. It is an emblem of innocence, and the badge of a Mason
it has been worn by kings, princes and potentates of the earth, who have never been ashamed to wear it

Capt. William M. Morgan Exposition of freemasonry(P. 43)

Ans. "The lambskin has, in all ages, been deemed an emblem of innocence; he, therefore, who wears the lambskin, as a badge of a Mason, is thereby continually reminded of that purity of life and rectitude of conduct which is so
essentially necessary to our gaining admission into
the celestial lodge above, where the Supreme Architect
of the Universe presides."

Christianity
The Bible Teaches that ALL have sinned (Rom 03:23) and made clean and acceptable to God only by the blood of Jesus Christ (Eph 02:13)

by faith in Jesus Christ (2 Tim 03:15) and believing his sacrifice for them.

Adam and Eve put on a Apron in the Garden to hide their nakedness.(Gen 03:07)

Masons call the apron an emblem of innocence AFTER their eyes have been opened and they see the light. The innocence they then ware cloaks their sin from being seen, by them and others. Returning them to the state before they knew BOTH Good and Evil.
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2)Worship the creature more than the creator.

Rom 01:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie,
and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator,who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Masonry: Capt. William M. Morgan Exposition of freemasonry(P. 17)

"of knowledge, and a sincere wish of being serviceable to his fellow creatures. Should his petition be granted, he will cheerfully conform to all the ancient established usages and customs of the fraternity."

Christianity
Luke 04:08 "And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Masons Serve other Masons before they serve God by breaking the commandments of God to serve their brother Masons, and keep the secrets of masonry hid. Crimes have been done that fulfill the oath that all masons take to hide the secrets of Masonry including kidnapping, purgery and murder.
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3)Reject Jesus Christ as the Stone that has become the head of the Corner.

1Kng 05:18 And Solomon's builders and Hiram's builders did hew [them],and the stonesquarers: so they prepared timber and stones to build the house.

Psa 118:22 The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner.

Matt 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing,
and it is marvellous in our eyes?

Mark 12:10 And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:

Luke 20:17 And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected,
the same is become the head of the corner?

John 10:09 I am the door: by me if any man enter in,
he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

Acts 04:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

Masonry:
The Builders by Joseph Fort Newton(P. 233)

Masonry is not a religion, but it is a Religion, a worship in which all good men may unite, that each may share the faith of all.

Capt. William M. Morgan Exposition of freemasonry(P. 101-103)

The forty-seventh problem of Euclid: This was an invention of our ancient friend and brother, the great Pythagoras, who, in his travels through Asia, Africa and Europe, was initiated into several orders of priesthood, and raised to the sublime degree of a Master Mason. ..

...and when he thinks his greatness is still ripening, he falls like autumn leaves, to enrich our mother earth....and with health and vigor come to the years of manhood, yet withal we must soon be cut down by the all-devouring scythe of time, and be gathered into the land where our fathers have gone before us. The three steps usually delineated
upon the Masters carpet, are emblematical of the three principal stages of human life, viz.: youth, manhood and age. In youth, as Entered Apprentices, we ought industriously to occupy our minds in the attainment of useful knowledge; in manhood, as Fellow Craft, we should apply our knowledge to the discharge of our respective
duties to God, our neighbors, and ourselves, that so in age,
as Master Mason, we may enjoy the happy reflections consequent on a well spent life, and die in the hope of a glorious immortality. ...."The spade, coffin, death-head, marrow-bones, and sprig of cassia, which are thus
explained: The spade opens the vault to receive our bodies where our active limbs will soon moulder to dust. The coffin, death-head, and marrowbones, are emblematical of the death and burial, of our Grand Master, Hiram Abiff and are worthy of our serious attention.

The sprig of cassia is emblematical of that important part of man which never dies and when the cold winter of death shall have passed, and the bright summer's morn of the resurrection appears, the Son of Righteousness shall descend, and send forth his angels to collect our ransomed dust; then, if we are found worthy, by his pass word, we shall enter into the celestial lodge above, where the Supreme Architect of the Universe presides, where we shall see the King in the beauty of holiness and with him enter into an endless eternity. Here ends the three first degrees of Masonry, which constitute a Master Mason's Lodge. A Master Mason's Lodge and a chapter of Royal Arch Masons....consequently the word was lost, and supposed to be forever; but the sequel will show it was found after the
lapse of four hundred and seventy years; notwithstanding the
word Mah-hah-bone,.... which was substituted by Solomon, still continues to be used by Master Masons, and no doubt will be as long as Masonry attracts the attention of men; and the word which was lost is used in the Royal Arch degree. What was the word of the Royal Arch degree before
they found the Master's word which was lost at the death of Hiram Abiff, and was not found for four hundred and seventy years? Were there any Royal Arch Masons before the Master's word was found? I wish some Masonic gentleman would solve these two questions

Christianity
Matt 10:33 (But whosoever shall deny me before men,
him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.)

Masons reject Jesus Christ as God, since their bretheren who worship Allah, Satan, and all other God's do not Worship Jesus Christ.

Thus Masons who commonly use stones to build walls make for
themselves a room without a door (John 10:09).

No purely stone wall can be built with a doorway unless it uses an arch.
The arch has a Headstone, that forms the Corner (center point) of the Arch.

By rejecting Christ as Psalm 118:22 says the builders would,
the Masons are left trapped walled up in their sin, with no way out.

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4)Practice Secret (curious) arts
Acts 19:19 Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all [men]: and they counted the price of them, and found [it] fifty thousand [pieces] of silver.

Eph 05:06-16 Let no man deceive you with vain words:
for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon
the children of disobedience.
Be not ye therefore partakers with them. For ye were sometimes darkness, but now [are ye] light in the Lord:
walk as children of light:(For the fruit of the Spirit [is] in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)Proving what is
acceptable unto the Lord.And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].
For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.But all things that are reproved
are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

Masonry:
Capt. William M. Morgan Exposition of freemasonry(P. 21)

nd held forth to the holy order of St. John, do hereby and hereon most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear that I will always hail, ever conceal and never reveal any part or parts, art or arts, point or points of the secret arts and mysteries of ancient Freemasonry which I have received, am about to receive, or may hereafter be instructed in, to any person or persons in the known world, except it be to a
true and lawful brother Mason

Christianity

Jesus is the Word of God, that the First Oath of Masonry is taken On.
This Oath has in it Secrecy, ancient Mysteries, Murder as penalty if the oath is broken. After the Oath is given Light is Given to the Newly made Brother Mason, that includes light from the sun, moon and Master of the Lodge. John who Masons call a saint said the following
about where true light comes from.

John 01:08-13 He was not that Light, but [was sent] to bear
witness of that Light. [That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man, but of God.
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5)Worship in a Synagogue built 180 degrees backwards from Solomons.

Bible: Ezk 08:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, [were] aboutfive and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east;
and they worshipped the sun toward the east.

Rev 02:09 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty,
(but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which
say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Rev 03:09 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Masonry:
Capt. William M. Morgan Exposition of freemasonry(P. 12-14)
and says, 'The door is tyled, Worshipful.' (at the same time giving the due-guard, which is never omitted when the Master is addressed.)
The Master to Junior Deacon, 'Brother, by whom?' Ans. 'By a Master Mason without the door, armed with the proper implement of his office.'

Master to Junior Deacon, 'His duty there?' Ans. 'To keep off all cowans and eaves-droppers, see that none pass or repass without permission from the Master.'

(Some say without permission from the chair.)....

Master to the Senior Warden, 'The Master's place in the lodge?' Ans. 'In the east, Worshipful.'
Master to the Senior Warden, 'His duty there?'
Ans. 'As the sun rises in the east to open and adorn the....
....day, so presides the Worshipful Master in the east to open and adorn his lodge, set his crafts to work with good and wholesome laws, or cause the same to be done.'

Capt. William M. Morgan Exposition of freemasonry(P.18)
The conductor, alias the Junior Deacon answers,
"A poor blind candidate who has long been desirous of having
and receiving a part of the rights and benefits of
this worshipful lodge, dedicated (some say erected) to God,
and held forth to the holy order of St. John, as all true fellows and brothers have done who have gone this way before him."

Capt. William M. Morgan Exposition of freemasonry(P. 22-23)
After the obligation the Master addresses the canidate in the following manner: "Brother, to you the secrets of Masonry are about to be unveiled, and a brighter sun never shone lustre on your eyes; while prostrate before this sacred alter,do you shudder at every crime? Have you not confidence in every virtue? May these thoughts ever inspire you with the most noble sentiments; may you ever feel that elevation of soul that shall scourn a dishonest act. Brother, what do you most desire?"

Ans. "Light"

Master to brethern, "Bretheren, stretch forth your ands and assis in bringing this new made brother from darkness to light."

The members having formed a circle round the canidate, the Master says, "And God said let there be light, and there was light." At the same time all the brethern clap thier hands and stamp on the floor with their right foot as heavy as possible, the bandage dropping from the canidate's eyes at the same instant, which, after being so long blind and full of fearful apprehensions all the time, this great and sudden transision from perfect darkness to a brighter [if possible] than the meridian sun in a mid-summer day, sometimes produces an alarming effect. I once knew a man to faint on being brought to light; and his recovery was quite doubtful for some time; however, he did come to, but never returned to the lodge again. I have often conversed with him on the subject; he is yet living, and will give a certificate in support of the above statement at any time if requested. After the candidate is brought to light,
the Master addresses him as follows: "Brother, on being broutht to the light, you first discover three great lights in Masonry, by the assistance of gree lesser; they are ths explained: the tree great lights in Masonry are The Holy Bible, Square and Compass. The Holy Bible is given to us as a rule and guide for our faith and practice; The Square to square our actions, and the Compass to keep us in due bounds with all mandkind, but more especially with the brethern. The three lesser lights ar three burning
tapers, or candles placed on candlesticks (some say, or candles on pedestals) they represent the sun, moon and Master of the lodge and are thus explained. As the sun rules the day and the moon governes the night, so ought the worshipful Master with equal regularity to rule and govern his lodge, or cause the same to be done;

Christianity

Jesus did away with the need for a temple, and animal sacrfice to pay for the yearly sins of the people of God. When he died the veil of the temple was rent in two from the top down (Mark 15:38) signifying that the separation of God from his people was done away with the completion of the final Sacrifice made by Jesus.

Jesus said It is finished (John 19:30) just before he died on the cross to show the final sacrifice was being performed by God who had provided himself a lamb (Gen 22:08) for the redemption of Man.

New Age Bibles destroy the profetic message of Gen 22:08 by
changing the word order, or using different words. The King James Version of the Bible is however accurate, and the True word of God.

When a Mason takes his Oath(S) on the KJV Bible he is promising to do many things that God forbids him to do in the Bible.
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6)Given a new Name
Bible (Isa 62:02)
And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness,
and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.

Masonry:
Capt. William M. Morgan Exposition of freemasonry(P. 25)
"thereby fitting our minds as living and lively stones,
for that spiritual building, that house not made with hands,
eternal in the heavens. I also present you with a new name;
it is CAUTION; it teaches you that as you are barely instructed in the rudiments of Masonry, that you should be cautious over all your words and actions, particularly when before the enemies of Masonry.

Christianity

God gave new names in the Bible (Gen 17:05 Abram became Abraham)

(Gen 17:15 Sarai, became Sarah) (Gen 32:28,35:10 Jacob became Israel)

By having the Masonic Worshipful Master give the New Mason a new Name, New Masons are accepting the Authority of God, which is given to a Father to name His Children to be the right of the Worshipful Master.

Luke 1:59-64 clearly shows the Jewish tradition of Nameing children.

The act of reseeving a new name from a man, who is not God or Your Father and is in fact called Master is forbidden (Matt 23:8-10).

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7)Call men Master who are not Jesus Christ.

Bible (Matt 23:8-10) But be not ye called Rabbi:
for one is your Master, [even] Christ;
and all ye are brethren. And call no [man] your father upon the earth:for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master,[even] Christ

Masonry:

Capt. William M. Morgan Exposition of freemasonry(P. 23)
"As the sun rules the day and the moon governs the night, so ought the worshipful Master with equal regularity to rule and govern his lodge, or cause the same to be done; you next discover me, as Master of this lodge, approaching you from the east upon the first step of Masonry"

Capt. William M. Morgan Exposition of freemasonry(P. 97)
"Was the body of our Grand Master, Hiram Abiff, ever found?"
Our Master is in heaven, who we are slaves and servants to if we submit ourselves to his Holy will (Col 04:01) To call any man our master implys a service to that man that would be grater than that to God.
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8)Take oaths (Blood oaths where they expect to be killed if broken)

Bible (Matt 05:33-37)
Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay:
for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

Masonry:

Capt. William M. Morgan Exposition of freemasonry(P.21-22)

"binding myself under no less penalty than to have my throat cut across, my tongue torn out by the roots, and my body buried in the rough sands of the sea at low ater-mark, where the tide ebbs and flows twice in twenty-hours; so help me God, and keep me steadfast in the due performance of the same"

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9)Call men their brothers who Reject Christ.

Bible (Matt 12:50)
For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which
is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Masonry: Capt. William M. Morgan Exposition of freemasonry(P.22)

Master to the bretheren, "Bretheren, stretch forth your hands and assist in bringing this new made brother from darkness to light."

Christianity

If a Christian calls a man his Brother who worships Satan then that same Christian is implying that Satan is his own Father.

This is why Jesus told us who he called brother, sister,
and mother as an example to us. That we would do his will.
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Captain William M. Morgan of Batavia New York.
A Husband to Lucinda Pendleton Morgan, and Father of two small children, Lucinda Wesley Morgan and Thomas Jefferson Morgan.
Morgan had practiced the craft of Free-masonry for over 30 years, Morgan searved under the command of Freemason Andrew Jackson, fought the British in the War of 1812.

Reverend Charles Finney in his book published 1869,
THE CHARACTER, CLAIMS AND PRACTICAL WORKINGS OF FREEMASONRY
writes of Morgan’s opinion of Freemasonry:
“He regarded it as highly injurious to the cause of Christ,
and as eminently dangerous to the government of our country.”

Morgan was kidnapped 9/11/1826 by Masons for writing: Illustrations of Masonry, He was taken North, and Later
murdered by Freemason Henry L. Valance who drowned Morgan in the Niagara River.
Valance had two other Mason brothers help him with this act.
This murder led to a great revival in Christian churches as many Masons left the Masonry after this event became publicly known.
The public shame of this murder forced many Freemasons
to admit the sin of slavery that they had chained themselves to.
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I know a lot of them, they seem like normal people. A lot of them are Christian mystics. They are not involved in NWO. Mainly white people are involved.
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You dont know shit...
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+1
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And? They aint gonna tell you shit. They couldnt if they wanted to..
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+1 again

masonsa re told right from get-go to not tell anyone anything.. even to the point of bold-faced lies to your face
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Their philosophy at the core is becoming gods on their own, and this is basically a luciferian belief system with no respect to their creator. They are free to believe in such delusions but the problem is that they are trying to embedd this same philosophy into laws, culture as well as our everyday life where everything goes even the sick shit. Add to this their messing with the occult powers which they cannot control and this creates a dirty mess for all of us.
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Their philosophy at the core is becoming gods on their own, and this is basically a luciferian belief system with no respect to their creator. They are free to believe in such delusions but the problem is that they are trying to embedd this same philosophy into laws, culture as well as our everyday life where everything goes even the sick shit. Add to this their messing with the occult powers which they cannot control and this creates a dirty mess for all of us.
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cheers


Well said

+ 1 for truth.
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I know a lot of them, they seem like normal people. A lot of them are Christian mystics. They are not involved in NWO. Mainly white people are involved.
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You dont know shit...
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.........and you do.....???
Sitting in it too, no doubt.!banana2
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Their philosophy at the core is becoming gods on their own, and this is basically a luciferian belief system with no respect to their creator. They are free to believe in such delusions but the problem is that they are trying to embedd this same philosophy into laws, culture as well as our everyday life where everything goes even the sick shit. Add to this their messing with the occult powers which they cannot control and this creates a dirty mess for all of us.
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Well-said! Straight-up.

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