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if "God" created everything why do people still blame the "devil"?

 
4Q529

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Re: if "God" created everything why do people still blame the "devil"?
So now what? What do you suggest because you seem to be aware of these things???
 Quoting: acegotflows


Well, according to the Revelations, "My people perish for lack of Knowledge."

The Muslims, Christians and Jews that are being slaughtered in the Middle East are being slaughtered as a result of the lack of Knowledge about the Doctrine of "resurrection" being taught by Isaiah, Daniel, Jesus and Mohammed as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'.

Anyone who wants that bloodshed to CEASE should assist in making the Truth known as widely as possible.

The "dragon"-media and the "false prophet" Jewish, Christian and Muslim religious 'authorities' (see Revelations 16:13) do NOT want that bloodshed to cease.

Which is why it continues.

Michael
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Re: if "God" created everything why do people still blame the "devil"?
"The 'forces of destruction' or the forces of opposition are creations of consciousness..."
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Define what you mean by consciousness.

The consciousness of the "self"?

The consciousness of the 'thinker'?

Or the consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God'? (Genesis 1:27).

Michael

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Tell it like it is!!
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Satan (Lucifer) and the demons (angels) also had free will and look what path one third of the angels chose. Satan is "the god of this world, the prince of the power of the air who now works in the sons of disobedience...." He deceives the whole world and most people are under his sway. When the Lord comes back to earth the present world system/kingdom will be taken over by Jesus Christ and Satan will be deposed.It was the Logos (Jesus Christ) who created "all things...." (John 1).
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Tell it like it is!!
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The OP trying to take over the Throne whatever it is of the Devil??

You are just making him/her/whatever madder!
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Satan (Lucifer) and the demons (angels) also had free will..."
 Quoting: anonymous 1593458


All that means is that they had/have the consciousness of a "self" and/or a 'thinker'.

That's all.

Such symbols have to mean more than they mean in their most trivial 'explanation'.

Michael
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sheeplechristian
 Quoting: Bending Light


Absolutely!!

You can't think your way out of this shit because salvation is to the LORD only!!


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Absolutely!!

You can't think your way out of this shit because salvation is to the LORD only!!


 Quoting: IAMIAM


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Re: if "God" created everything why do people still blame the "devil"?
If everything was created by "God" how is God separated from sin? Either the story isn't true, or that God didn't create everything. Some people say man simply can understand the ways of God, but cmon at least leave a story that makes sense. So what do you believe or know???
 Quoting: acegotflows


Stop with the BS. Freewill, you have a gun you can hunt for food or you can murder another with it. Hunting for food is positive, murdering another is negative and against Gods Law.

So......you still need it spelled out?


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Sorry the Devil Made Me Do It!

No freewill!


rockon
 Quoting: INSIDERS VIEW


So you say! You find Jesus Christ.....you have a Spiritual Lawyer that will not allow you to be judged. You bypass judgement....however we can not game the system....to thy own self be true.

We are not under the Law(God's Law that is)....you are.....we uphold the Law but are not under the Law. The written Law kills, the Spirit of the Law gives Life. You have made your choice....so you say.
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The OP trying to take over the Throne whatever it is of the Devil??

You are just making him/her/whatever madder!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27794780


You think I want to rule? Smh. Rule yourself. That's all.
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Re: if "God" created everything why do people still blame the "devil"?
So now what? What do you suggest because you seem to be aware of these things???
 Quoting: acegotflows


Well, according to the Revelations, "My people perish for lack of Knowledge."

The Muslims, Christians and Jews that are being slaughtered in the Middle East are being slaughtered as a result of the lack of Knowledge about the Doctrine of "resurrection" being taught by Isaiah, Daniel, Jesus and Mohammed as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'.

Anyone who wants that bloodshed to CEASE should assist in making the Truth known as widely as possible.

The "dragon"-media and the "false prophet" Jewish, Christian and Muslim religious 'authorities' (see Revelations 16:13) do NOT want that bloodshed to cease.

Which is why it continues.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529

That's all I am trying to do, starting with self first
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Re: if "God" created everything why do people still blame the "devil"?
So now what? What do you suggest because you seem to be aware of these things???
 Quoting: acegotflows


Well, according to the Revelations, "My people perish for lack of Knowledge."

The Muslims, Christians and Jews that are being slaughtered in the Middle East are being slaughtered as a result of the lack of Knowledge about the Doctrine of "resurrection" being taught by Isaiah, Daniel, Jesus and Mohammed as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'.

Anyone who wants that bloodshed to CEASE should assist in making the Truth known as widely as possible.

The "dragon"-media and the "false prophet" Jewish, Christian and Muslim religious 'authorities' (see Revelations 16:13) do NOT want that bloodshed to cease.

Which is why it continues.

Michael
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That's all I am trying to do, starting with self first
 Quoting: acegotflows


The first thing to understand about the "self" is that it is the manifestation of both fear and desire; and, thus, can be controlled by fear and desire. So, to get beyond "self" is to stand outside of fear and desire.

The next thing to understand about the "self" is that it considers itself as the source of all that is "good" and the "not self" as the source of all that it "evil". (This is why it is referred to in Genesis as the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil".)

This is the fundamental mechanism for the projection of evil and the motivation and 'justification' for violence against anyone that is not similar to us; that is, anyone of a different religion, political philosophy, economic class, race or sex.

Michael
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testing.
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Re: if "God" created everything why do people still blame the "devil"?
The Lord God Jesus Christ created EVERYTHING(Colossians 1:16).
In Isaiah 45:7, in the KJV it says God created evil. That's a bad translation and evil should be translated DISASTER.
God creates disaster to get peoples attention, to bring them to repentance etc.
EVIL is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart.
God paid the sin debt of the world. BUT, He stands at the door of the heart and knocks(Rev. 3:20). The Lord does not force Himself on anyone.
Salvation is a FREE GIFT(Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5) by calling upon the name of the Lord(Acts 2:21; Romans 10:9,10,13), asking and receiving Him into your heart by faith(John 1:12).
God made salvation that simple NOBODY need miss it because God is NOT WILLING any should perish(2Peter 3:9). Salvation is an individual CHOICE.
Even hell is a monument to FREE WILL. It's your choice.[youtube][googlevid][liveleak]
 Quoting: edwinrad


The Lord Jesus Christ is the jewish jesus is the one who is coming. The son of lucifer. Son of the burning bush. Our Lord Jesum Christum is God. The son of Our Lady and the Holy Ghost. Jesum Christum was crucified in Rome by the jewish high priests to serve lucifer the devil. Jesum Christum returned and he gave us the sacraments.
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Re: if "God" created everything why do people still blame the "devil"?
The Lord God Jesus Christ created EVERYTHING(Colossians 1:16).
In Isaiah 45:7, in the KJV it says God created evil. That's a bad translation and evil should be translated DISASTER.
God creates disaster to get peoples attention, to bring them to repentance etc.
EVIL is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart.
God paid the sin debt of the world. BUT, He stands at the door of the heart and knocks(Rev. 3:20). The Lord does not force Himself on anyone.
Salvation is a FREE GIFT(Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5) by calling upon the name of the Lord(Acts 2:21; Romans 10:9,10,13), asking and receiving Him into your heart by faith(John 1:12).
God made salvation that simple NOBODY need miss it because God is NOT WILLING any should perish(2Peter 3:9). Salvation is an individual CHOICE.
Even hell is a monument to FREE WILL. It's your choice.[youtube][googlevid][liveleak]
 Quoting: edwinrad


The Lord Jesus Christ is the jewish jesus is the one who is coming. The son of lucifer. Son of the burning bush. Our Lord Jesum Christum is God. The son of Our Lady and the Holy Ghost. Jesum Christum was crucified in Rome by the jewish high priests to serve lucifer the devil. Jesum Christum returned and he gave us the sacraments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22787868


If you cannot see that the 'thinker' 'thinks' itself into existence, that it was NOT Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis 1:27), then you are blind.

The 'thinker' is a dualistic consciousness, whereas "Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is ONE."

The dualistic consciousness of the 'thinker' is not in the image of One.

And, if anyone follows your teaching, they would have to be blind as well.

Michael

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