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BREAKING: Obamacare shoots down any chance and gun control. Harry Reid planted a hidden gem... GUN CONTROL NOT ALLOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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BREAKING: Obamacare shoots down any chance and gun control. Harry Reid planted a hidden gem... GUN CONTROL NOT ALLOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama, in his effort to get Obamacare passed into law did not notice that Harry Reid planted a provision that forbids the government from instituting gun control.

While Obamacare is a nightmare, at least someone said FUCK YOU to Obama in it.

This is called pre-planning.
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Re: BREAKING: Obamacare shoots down any chance and gun control. Harry Reid planted a hidden gem... GUN CONTROL NOT ALLOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama, in his effort to get Obamacare passed into law did not notice that Harry Reid planted a provision that forbids the government from instituting gun control.

While Obamacare is a nightmare, at least someone said FUCK YOU to Obama in it.

This is called pre-planning.
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[link to www.forbes.com]

Excuse me in my excitement to post this but it is for Executive Orders... OBUMMER CAN'T DO IT because of his own legislation.

What a fucking idiot,

BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Can a MOD please change my title and switch the word 'and' to 'at'
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Re: BREAKING: Obamacare shoots down any chance and gun control. Harry Reid planted a hidden gem... GUN CONTROL NOT ALLOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!
American GLPers talk to me about Harry Reid. Friend or foe to liberty? Just trying to put my head around this news.

On one hand I hate what Obamacare represents but on the other Harry Reid, if a lover of liberty, knew that this fucker was coming for the guns and checkmated him in his threat of using Executive Orders.

HEH HEH!
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Re: BREAKING: Obamacare shoots down any chance and gun control. Harry Reid planted a hidden gem... GUN CONTROL NOT ALLOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama, in his effort to get Obamacare passed into law did not notice that Harry Reid planted a provision that forbids the government from instituting gun control.

While Obamacare is a nightmare, at least someone said FUCK YOU to Obama in it.

This is called pre-planning.
 Quoting: From the WTF Dept 31346699


[link to www.forbes.com]

Excuse me in my excitement to post this but it is for Executive Orders... OBUMMER CAN'T DO IT because of his own legislation.

What a fucking idiot,

BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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You think legislation matters when the last War declared by Congress was WW2?

The Constitution is the highest "charter" in the land, and requires Congressional declaration of War, and is ignored.

This means shit friend.
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Re: BREAKING: Obamacare shoots down any chance and gun control. Harry Reid planted a hidden gem... GUN CONTROL NOT ALLOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!
"That’s right—it turns out that there is, indeed, a provision buried deep in the thousands of pages that is the Affordable Care Act entitled, “Protection of Second Amendment Rights”. You’ll find it in Section 2716 part c of the Affordable Care Act although, to save you the trouble, I have re-printed the provision below for your perusal."

(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—

‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.— A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to—

‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully- possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or

‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘

(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any in- formation relating to—

‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;

‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or

‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.

‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.
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Re: BREAKING: Obamacare shoots down any chance and gun control. Harry Reid planted a hidden gem... GUN CONTROL NOT ALLOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama, in his effort to get Obamacare passed into law did not notice that Harry Reid planted a provision that forbids the government from instituting gun control.

While Obamacare is a nightmare, at least someone said FUCK YOU to Obama in it.

This is called pre-planning.
 Quoting: From the WTF Dept 31346699


[link to www.forbes.com]

Excuse me in my excitement to post this but it is for Executive Orders... OBUMMER CAN'T DO IT because of his own legislation.

What a fucking idiot,

BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31346699


You think legislation matters when the last War declared by Congress was WW2?

The Constitution is the highest "charter" in the land, and requires Congressional declaration of War, and is ignored.

This means shit friend.
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Either way it is checkmate. If it is shit then no Obamacare. It Obamacare stays then this stays and no Executive order. It is in there in black and white. It is not pick and choose.
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You must have missed this part:

So, to our friends at Breitbart and the others who believe they have discovered gold in their effort to prevent the administration from acting on its desire to bring sanity to our gun laws, I’m afraid you are going to have to reload as Obamacare is just not the magic bullet you are looking for.
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You must have missed this part:

So, to our friends at Breitbart and the others who believe they have discovered gold in their effort to prevent the administration from acting on its desire to bring sanity to our gun laws, I’m afraid you are going to have to reload as Obamacare is just not the magic bullet you are looking for.
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bsflag
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Who 1-starred me? Fuck off!
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give me a PIN and get the word out before the Shills kill it.
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If this is real I've it was in a TV episode I can't remember which program but someone sleuth that out.
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Trinity you up?
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If this is real I've it was in a TV episode I can't remember which program but someone sleuth that out.
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Forbes man
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real I looked it up!

wtg op yahooo
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it tells you what section go look
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real I looked it up!

wtg op yahooo
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Read the article at Forbes. Harry Reid and the head of the NRA are good friends and the NRA guy convinced Reid to put it in because it would stop NRA members from protesting Obummercare and get them onside with it.

This is amazing. Harry Reid and the NRA frontran Obama.
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it tells you what section go look
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Don't have to. I printed it above
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Re: BREAKING: Obamacare shoots down any chance and gun control. Harry Reid planted a hidden gem... GUN CONTROL NOT ALLOWED!!!!!!!!!!!!
"That’s right—it turns out that there is, indeed, a provision buried deep in the thousands of pages that is the Affordable Care Act entitled, “Protection of Second Amendment Rights”. You’ll find it in Section 2716 part c of the Affordable Care Act although, to save you the trouble, I have re-printed the provision below for your perusal."

(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—

‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.— A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to—

‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully- possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or

‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘

(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any in- formation relating to—

‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;

‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or

‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.

‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.
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This only covers Health and Human Services, not the Justice Department. Try reading the entire article dumbass.
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These 1-star pricks need their asses kicked!
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Wait wait This is only talking about information regarding guns, ammo etc. Cant they still outlaw purchase? Am I wrong?
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"That’s right—it turns out that there is, indeed, a provision buried deep in the thousands of pages that is the Affordable Care Act entitled, “Protection of Second Amendment Rights”. You’ll find it in Section 2716 part c of the Affordable Care Act although, to save you the trouble, I have re-printed the provision below for your perusal."

(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—

‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.— A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to—

‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully- possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or

‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘

(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any in- formation relating to—

‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;

‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or

‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.

‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.
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This only covers Health and Human Services, not the Justice Department. Try reading the entire article dumbass.
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You had better try reading it dumbfuck. I'm right and you are shilling. FUCK OFF you $4 whore
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These 1-star pricks need their asses kicked!
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Then come get some... because I was one of them.
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"this provision limits opportunities to collect and keep data on those who own firearms while creating some roadblocks when it comes to government’s ability to track whether or not you keep a weapon in your home, etc."
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These 1-star pricks need their asses kicked!
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Then come get some... because I was one of them.
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time and place bitch!
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"That’s right—it turns out that there is, indeed, a provision buried deep in the thousands of pages that is the Affordable Care Act entitled, “Protection of Second Amendment Rights”. You’ll find it in Section 2716 part c of the Affordable Care Act although, to save you the trouble, I have re-printed the provision below for your perusal."

(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—

‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.— A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to—

‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully- possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or

‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.
‘‘

(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any in- formation relating to—

‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;

‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or

‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.

‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.
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This only covers Health and Human Services, not the Justice Department. Try reading the entire article dumbass.
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You had better try reading it dumbfuck. I'm right and you are shilling. FUCK OFF you $4 whore
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Ok then let's see if the mods are dumb enough to pin your lack of intelligence. The bill clearly states it is only for Health and Human Services.
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This only has to do with guns as they relate to 0bamacare.

In effect, the department of HHS can't ask you about your guns, but the DOJ still can.
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Its real: Senate Amendment 3276 Sec 2716 Part C : only catch is it just applies to doctors being able to require your firearms info and then it being used to take them away . Its on, I think page 2306 , you can look it up . I guess it would depend on how its interpreted in the Courts , but then they own the Judges SOooooooo!!!!!