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So..where's Ryan Lanza?

 
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Maybe this has already been covered here and if so, I apologize.

But once all the initial chaos around the whole Sandy Hook thing died down a little and it became all about the guns, it was like he fell off the planet.

I understand him not wanting to present his story to the press maybe immediately , that's a lot of stuff to sort through if your mother and brother (even an estranged brother) are suddenly gone in such a high profile, traumatizing way.

But it's been at least a month since this happened...and no word about OR from Ryan as far as I have seen. The only time I see his name mentioned is when reference is made to the initial confusion in which Adam was reported to be Ryan because of the ID supposedly found on him.


Isn't that a little odd? Neither Ryan nor his father have anything to say about their immediate relative shooting people up suddenly? Ryan had nothing to say to CNN after they reported him as the shooter? ( apart from his initial Facebook post right after the news broke?) Even if he WAS estranged from his brother for the past few years, you'd think maybe there would be one or two interviews, or at least some kind of statement. For christ's sakes, those 'traumatized' kids and Robbie Parker, a man whose daughter had been cold for less than 72 hours were almost IMMEDIATELY on the air telling THEIR side of the story...but someone whose immediate family was also involved has nothing whatsoever to say ?

There are several reasons why this could be the case:

He is just so traumatized by the event that he has nothing to say about it it. Which I will grant is a possibility, but I feel like if two family members died in this way ( even if one was estranged) and the media was going on a rampage about what a psycho killer he was and they ( MSM) had also implicated me, I feel like I would have SOMETHING to say, at the very least about the tragedy of my mother having just been shot by my brother.

Maybe he was involved in some way? Or was paid off to just keep his mouth shut?

Or maybe he was 'disappeared' because he became a liability after they IDed him as the killer...


Or I could just be another crazy GLPer.. 1dunno1

What do you guys think? Anyone else seen any further info on Ryan?
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Oops, guess there was already a thread about his from 12/29/12...but still, now that even more time has gone by it seems odd that there has still been nothing on that front...

Thread: Where is Ryan Lanza? Where is the father, Peter Lanza? No interviews? No paparazzi hounding them 24/7...??? (Page 3)

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Hahah ok, I'll just go back under the rock I climbed out from under....


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I wouldn't expect to hear from him because the last thing I'd be doing in his situation is talking to the media. However, I would expect MSM to continue to hound him...and his father. I'd expect MSM to continue to write stories about Ryan and his father, even if not based on facts...because that's never stopped them before.

Notice the pattern? It's the same as the James Holmes case. We heard about his parents the first couple of days after the shooting, and then, nothing.

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he did say something to the NY Post but it was basically I love my brother
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I wouldn't expect to hear from him because the last thing I'd be doing in his situation is talking to the media. However, I would expect MSM to continue to hound him...and his father. I'd expect MSM to continue to write stories about Ryan and his father, even if not based on facts...because that's never stopped them before.

Notice the pattern? It's the same as the James Holmes case. We heard about his parents the first couple of days after the shooting, and then, nothing.
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I agree, it is similar to the Aurora thing. And i do understand if he didnt feel like talking to the media about it. The thing that I find weird is that he or anyone else for that matter never said anything about CNN calling him the shooter and posting his pictures all over TV and the Internet saying he was the shooter. I feel like at the very least I would have something to say to them about it, whether it was sketchy or not that is still very shoddy and unprofessional journalism to just throw that shit on TV, even if you are in a rush to get the news out.

Besides the initial "fuck you CNN!" on his Facebook, he never really mentioned it. Nor did CNN (at least as far as I saw, could be wrong) mention that they had royally fucked up in that aspect or apologize officially.

If that happened to me I feel like I'd at least call them out on it. But, maybe thats just me.
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I wouldn't expect to hear from him because the last thing I'd be doing in his situation is talking to the media. However, I would expect MSM to continue to hound him...and his father. I'd expect MSM to continue to write stories about Ryan and his father, even if not based on facts...because that's never stopped them before.

Notice the pattern? It's the same as the James Holmes case. We heard about his parents the first couple of days after the shooting, and then, nothing.
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I agree, it is similar to the Aurora thing. And i do understand if he didnt feel like talking to the media about it. The thing that I find weird is that he or anyone else for that matter never said anything about CNN calling him the shooter and posting his pictures all over TV and the Internet saying he was the shooter. I feel like at the very least I would have something to say to them about it, whether it was sketchy or not that is still very shoddy and unprofessional journalism to just throw that shit on TV, even if you are in a rush to get the news out.

Besides the initial "fuck you CNN!" on his Facebook, he never really mentioned it. Nor did CNN (at least as far as I saw, could be wrong) mention that they had royally fucked up in that aspect or apologize officially.

If that happened to me I feel like I'd at least call them out on it. But, maybe thats just me.
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True, it is strange, I think more so on the part of MSM than Ryan's. MSM just kind of glossed over the whole thing like Oops, minor mistake...which it wasn't. Of course, even your average person kind of thought, "Wow. That's a pretty huge mistake to make," but when MSM sweeps it under the wrong, those same people don't question it. I can understand Ryan not wanting to talk about any of this with the very people who pointed the finger at him. The fact that MSM hasn't really even owned up to what they did, not surprising, but that alone should raise questions for anyone.

All in all though, it's weird. I'm surprised he's not going to sue anyone. Maybe he is, but it's behind closed doors?

I have to say, all of this playing out on Fb was really strange to me. You're accused of a mass shooting, and you're going to take to Fb? Maybe it's a sign of the times, but it seemed really odd to me. Posting it to Fb made it seem like such a joke.

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he was on howard stern last week,

i hear letterman's next.
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I wouldn't expect to hear from him because the last thing I'd be doing in his situation is talking to the media. However, I would expect MSM to continue to hound him...and his father. I'd expect MSM to continue to write stories about Ryan and his father, even if not based on facts...because that's never stopped them before.

Notice the pattern? It's the same as the James Holmes case. We heard about his parents the first couple of days after the shooting, and then, nothing.
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Exactly!
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I wouldn't expect to hear from him because the last thing I'd be doing in his situation is talking to the media. However, I would expect MSM to continue to hound him...and his father. I'd expect MSM to continue to write stories about Ryan and his father, even if not based on facts...because that's never stopped them before.

Notice the pattern? It's the same as the James Holmes case. We heard about his parents the first couple of days after the shooting, and then, nothing.
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Exactly!
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It is interesting that the MSM makes no mention of him. Whether he is interested in speaking to them or not, they certainly don't seem interrested in him either.

But this could also be due to the fact that he doesn't fit in with the gun control theme so they just have no use for him.
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Here is "Ryan Lanza":


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Does he sounds legit?

The perfect Twitter profile of an actor....
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Here is "Ryan Lanza":


[link to twitter.com]



Does he sounds legit?

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Here is "Ryan Lanza":


[link to twitter.com]



Does he sounds legit?

The perfect Twitter profile of an actor....
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Not sure that's the same guy...if so, the picture looks younger? Ryan is 25, that kid looks to be about 14
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I wouldn't expect to hear from him because the last thing I'd be doing in his situation is talking to the media. However, I would expect MSM to continue to hound him...and his father. I'd expect MSM to continue to write stories about Ryan and his father, even if not based on facts...because that's never stopped them before.

Notice the pattern? It's the same as the James Holmes case. We heard about his parents the first couple of days after the shooting, and then, nothing.
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Exactly!
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It is interesting that the MSM makes no mention of him. Whether he is interested in speaking to them or not, they certainly don't seem interrested in him either.

But this could also be due to the fact that he doesn't fit in with the gun control theme so they just have no use for him.
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Exactly. And if you compare MSM's behaviour in this case and the James Holmes, it totally breaks the norm. That's why it doesn't make sense.
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No interviews of any Adams friends, family. It's as if the guy never existed. What schools did he go to? Why did he pick that school to shoot up? Has he ever been at the school before? Where are the mothers friends and interview of them?
Where are obamas school mates? Get where I'm going here?
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Nobody has ever tried to interview one of the co-workers of Ryan Lanza, who cold "prove" that he was at work at the time of the shooting, and had no involvement with the incident...

They never interviewed any witness that could confirm Ryan Lanza was at work at the time of the shooting.
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No interviews of any Adams friends, family. It's as if the guy never existed. What schools did he go to? Why did he pick that school to shoot up? Has he ever been at the school before? Where are the mothers friends and interview of them?
Where are obamas school mates? Get where I'm going here?
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I did see a few news reports in the beginning where people were shocked because this did not seem like something he would do.

Then a few weeks later there were reports from 'friends and family' that he had always been a dark scary loner that no one talked to. Which of course was rediculous considering what they'd said a week before (sorry I don't have links for any of that...)

If they HAD just made Adam up, why even bother making the connection to Ryan and his father? Why not just say that Ryan was brought up in a single parent household and didn't know or have a dad or brother?
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Nobody has ever tried to interview one of the co-workers of Ryan Lanza, who cold "prove" that he was at work at the time of the shooting, and had no involvement with the incident...

They never interviewed any witness that could confirm Ryan Lanza was at work at the time of the shooting.
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Another good point. It seems more and more that either he's so disgusted and upset by the whole thing he went into hiding OR...

He was somehow involved...but if he WAS involved, what was his role, other than to provide the ID? And how would the ID help the official story?
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Nobody has ever tried to interview one of the co-workers of Ryan Lanza, who cold "prove" that he was at work at the time of the shooting, and had no involvement with the incident...

They never interviewed any witness that could confirm Ryan Lanza was at work at the time of the shooting.
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Another good point. It seems more and more that either he's so disgusted and upset by the whole thing he went into hiding OR...

He was somehow involved...but if he WAS involved, what was his role, other than to provide the ID? And how would the ID help the official story?
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How did they track him down so quickly? Wasn't it the morning of the day of the shootings when they showed him handcuffed? So not only did they track him down, but a film crew was there filming it all? It all happened way too fast imo. Part of me feels like that was all fabricated in advance, right down to the posts on Fb.
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Nobody has ever tried to interview one of the co-workers of Ryan Lanza, who cold "prove" that he was at work at the time of the shooting, and had no involvement with the incident...

They never interviewed any witness that could confirm Ryan Lanza was at work at the time of the shooting.
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Another good point. It seems more and more that either he's so disgusted and upset by the whole thing he went into hiding OR...

He was somehow involved...but if he WAS involved, what was his role, other than to provide the ID? And how would the ID help the official story?
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How did they track him down so quickly? Wasn't it the morning of the day of the shootings when they showed him handcuffed? So not only did they track him down, but a film crew was there filming it all? It all happened way too fast imo. Part of me feels like that was all fabricated in advance, right down to the posts on Fb.
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I was home watching TV when they broke in with the 'coverage' and yeah, it was within hours that they had positively ID'd him with pictures and everything. There was clearly something fishy going on, but I can't really figure out what role Ryan plays in this whole thing.

...possibly just to throw people like us at GLP off th trail?
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why is all these people that are highly tied to the situation misspells or misspells "NEWTON, CT"

the president did it a few times, some of the people on the news did it also on the day of, and this ryan kid calls it NEWTON, CT

the fuck?? like its some fig newton fantasy land

if i did that everyone would be all over me

ITS NEWTOWN!

how do you not say the name right? its not even hard, unless it has some slang term no one knows about if you're from the area
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there was a thread yesterday made by EchoSix that is no longer on GLP either, what the hell happened?

GLP IN ON IT! LOL
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why is all these people that are highly tied to the situation misspells or misspells "NEWTON, CT"

the president did it a few times, some of the people on the news did it also on the day of, and this ryan kid calls it NEWTON, CT

the fuck?? like its some fig newton fantasy land

if i did that everyone would be all over me

ITS NEWTOWN!

how do you not say the name right? its not even hard, unless it has some slang term no one knows about if you're from the area
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I had also noticed this. I have heard multiple newscasters say newton, which I shrugged off in local news reports because hey, we're not CT, we don't know. But Obama and national news saying Newton is odd, especially given the amount off press dedicated to it
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why is all these people that are highly tied to the situation misspells or misspells "NEWTON, CT"

the president did it a few times, some of the people on the news did it also on the day of, and this ryan kid calls it NEWTON, CT

the fuck?? like its some fig newton fantasy land

if i did that everyone would be all over me

ITS NEWTOWN!

how do you not say the name right? its not even hard, unless it has some slang term no one knows about if you're from the area
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I had also noticed this. I have heard multiple newscasters say newton, which I shrugged off in local news reports because hey, we're not CT, we don't know. But Obama and national news saying Newton is odd, especially given the amount off press dedicated to it
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yup same, first i thought it was oh ok, they aren't from there.

but it keeps happening. just weird
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[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

Article which contains a less-than-apologetic statement from a CNN spokesperson regarding the mis-identification

EDIT: not an article, but an opinion blog post...either way, the sentiment is there.

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In looking for articles about this I have found plenty where networks are admitting that they had incorrectly ID'd the shooter, but zero where they apologize to Ryan or even admit that it was shitty. They all seem to be blaming each other. Most news reports about it state it as a fact but don't comment on it otherwise.
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In looking for articles about this I have found plenty where networks are admitting that they had incorrectly ID'd the shooter, but zero where they apologize to Ryan or even admit that it was shitty. They all seem to be blaming each other. Most news reports about it state it as a fact but don't comment on it otherwise.
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All the more reason it seems planned. If it was a genuine mistake, I think they would have been more apologetic about it. Remember how so often in coverage of cases like this, MSM starts to question their own behaviour, looks at how they cover things, and starts to analyze themselves? That hasn't happened in a while. I wonder why...

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