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I would like to preface this post by saying that in no way, shape, or form do I consider myself to be a 'conspiracy theorist'. Everybody knows that human beings never ever ever behave conspiratorially in any way, and that any collusion between men of means in no way represents an exercise of power or influence.

So, let's start looking into this latest mass shooting with a closed mind, eager to cling to the certain truth that our news is unbiased information that is in no way comparable to the black propaganda used to manipulate public opinion in most countries throughout the whole of recorded history.

In fact, here's a former head of the CIA going before a house committee to state on record that his agency has been quite active in manipulating American media instruments: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

A 2002 Guardian story discussed how The Pentagon plans to release fake media stories to help promote their agenda. GLP will not let me post the link here, but go google it.

Man, it's a good thing that NOTHING FUNNY ever actually happened! Imagine how confused we'd all be!

Here's a link to the Wikipedia entry on Operation Mockingbird: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

"Operation Mockingbird was a secret Central Intelligence Agency campaign to influence media beginning in the 1950s"

Shee, it's a good thing that all such activity clearly stopped, that the CIA had an attack of conscience and pulled back from such questionable activities!

I've already given you enough info to shut down the Anderson Coopers of the world in 10 seconds flat. "Given that the CIA is on the congressional record talking about manipulating American media instruments and that any idiot can find evidence of this with a quick Google search, what possible reason can you give the American public to take you at all seriously, Anderson?"

But, let's play it coy, and assume instead that funny business can never ever actually happen in the really real world of which we are all certainly a real part.

It should make it easier to stomach the following information!

DAWN HOCHSPRUNG

Here are some articles about heroic school Principal Dawn Hochsprung, who "died trying to subdue the crazed shooter."

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]
[link to newyork.cbslocal.com]
[link to www.cnn.com]

Here's an article from the local paper Newtown Bee, very likely the first ones on the scene:

[link to imageshack.us (secure)]

I've had to link to a screencap because the original article has since been pulled. It used to be here:

[link to newtownbee.com]

"Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told the Bee that a masked man entered the school..."

So, the heroic dead Principal was giving out interviews to the local newspaper, was she?


Alright, let's move on...

ACTORS ON THE SET

Here's the father of poor dead little girl Emilie Parker smiling and laughing. As soon as the camera focuses in on him, he yanks hard on the stick and starts working up the tears.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Nothing unusual so far, right?

So, here's a photo of a family that's been available online since at least May of 2012.

[link to dallasgoldbug.com]

Need a datestamp?

Fine, here's a Youtube video uploaded in May of 2012. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Skip ahead to 16:18 to see the photo in question.

The upstanding gentleman uploading these photos and videos is a class-one nutjob anarchist who thinks that this is a family of actors, "The Greenberg family", that's being used in fake news reports to stage false flag events.

Coincidentally, the family he singled out in this instance actually happens to live in Newtown, Connecticut! Wow, he really fucked that one up! Here's "The Greenberg family" being interviewed live on CNN, crying convincingly about the tragic death of poor old heroic Dawn Hochsprung.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

If you're still reading along and aren't thinking this is all a bit funny, then you're probably suffering from cognitive dissonance. Read about it here.

Anyways, moving on...

THE MEDICAL EXAMINER IS JIZZING HIMSELF

Here's a totally convincing series of outtakes from an interview with the 'Medical Examiner' Wayne Carver...

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Yeah, he seems pretty on the ball. I'm glad the government will be making policy recommendations based on his assertions and opinions.

THE EVER-CHANGING STORY

Alright, let's ask The Hartford Courant about their journalism standards:

12/15
"Lanza next arrived at teacher Victoria Soto's classroom. Soto is believed to have hidden her 6- and 7-year old students in a classroom closet. When Lanza demanded to know where the children were, Soto tried to divert him to the other end of the school by saying that her students were in the auditorium.

But six of Soto's students tried to flee. Lanza shot them, Soto and another teacher who was in the room. Later, in their search for survivors, police found the remaining seven of Soto's students still hiding in the closet. They told the police what had happened."

[link to www.courant.com]


12/22

"The arriving officers encountered a shocking scene in Soto's classroom. Lanza had shot her, as well as special education teacher Anne Marie Murphy and six of Soto's 6- and 7-year old students. Seven of Soto's students were found huddled and unharmed in a classroom closet, apparently hidden by Soto when she heard shooting. The other students fled the classroom."

[link to www.courant.com]


12/25

"Does this help explain what Soto would do nearly five years later when gunman Adam Lanza entered her classroom at Sandy Hook Elementary School after slaughtering every child and teacher Lauren Rosseau in the next room? She ushered special education teacher Anne Marie Murphy and several children under her desk. She moved other children behind a bookcase or barrier. When Lanza came in, Soto was the only one he saw. She faced him. He killed her, and then he killed the children and Murphy under the desk. Murphy died shielding a child in her arms. Other children escaped the classroom. Soto's actions saved children's lives."

[link to www.courant.com]


So does Victoria Soto exist or what? Let's ask her grieving family:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Alright, so what else have we got?


THE LONE GUNMAN

So, Adam Lanza, a 20 year old, awkward young man with autism, killed 28 people in under two minutes with an assault rifle, including the time it took to pause and reload?

Let's see what that kind of gunmanship looks like in the real world:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's a kid saying he saw a suspect in handcuffs on the ground when leaving the school:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's a news report about the arrest of a second shooter:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's an eyewitness alleging a man in camo pants with a dark jacket was walked out of the woods and arrested:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's the police band chatter from the day of the shooting:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

At 1:35:07 we hear "One suspect may be wearing a nun outfit, headed toward Danbury and Stoney Hill, purple van."

Here's a picture of nuns leaving the scene of the shooting, wearing size 14 shoes, with a long object under the overcoat:

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]

Here's a closeup shot. Do these girls seem a bit manly to you?

[link to i.huffpost.com]


THE MURDER WEAPON:

Here's the medical examiner swearing that the weapon used in all the murders was a .223 Bushmaster rifle.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's CNN reporting that the rifle was found in the trunk of the car:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's an article from a paper that contradicts the medical examiner's story:

[link to hillnholler.net]

"The gunman was wearing dark clothing, a mask, a bulletproof vest, and was carrying four guns. Investigators said the gunman fired his weapon at least 100 times. Three guns were found — a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols, inside the school, and a .223-caliber rifle in the back of a car."

There are many more examples of this. Still having trouble with this?

Fine. Here's actual video footage of the rifle being taken out of the trunk of the car:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

So after shooting up a school and killing 28 people, Lanza went back to the car, put the rifle in the trunk, and then went back into the school and shot himself?

Here's the Connecticut police threatening to prosecute people who post misinformation about the shooting on social media sites:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

One wonders what would constitute "misinformation" in such a situation, and whether he intends to prosecute CNN for their fuckups.


THE BATMAN ANGLE

So let's talk about Satanists, and a bit about Batman.

Here's an introduction to Ted Gunderson:

Theodore L. Gunderson (November 7, 1928 - July 31, 2011 was an American Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agent In Charge and head of the Los Angeles FBI. He was most famous for handling the Marilyn Monroe and John F. Kennedy cases. He was the author of the best selling book How to Locate Anyone Anywhere.

Here's a video of Ted alleging the existence of a vast underground network of Satanic pedophiles and drug smugglers operating inside the United States through the alphabet intelligence agencies.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Hunh. Well, that's a bit weird.

Satanists, you say?

Oh look, the "Church of Satan" has an outpost in Newtown, Connecticut:

[link to www.satanservice.org]

Well, what's the worst that could happen?

Oh, well. Did anything else happen in Newtown, Connecticut this year?

Well, this guy died.

[link to www.imdb.com]

That'd be the guy who drew the words "Sandy Hook" on the prop map of Gotham City used in the movie "the Dark Knight Rises", as seen here:

[link to www.google.ca]

That'd be the movie where there was another somewhat fishy mass shooting earlier this year at the premiere, by the way.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Scott's boss was this guy, Nathan Crowley:

[link to www.imdb.com]

Nathan is a descendent of Alesteir Crowley:

[link to www.theartnewspaper.com]

If you don't know who Alesteir Crowley is, he's a famous occultist who ran in high society circles a number of decades ago and was functionally a consultant on occult methods to many of the movers and shakers of the day... you know, the sorts of people who might have lots of money to put generational agendas into effect.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Why such people would have any interest in "Batman" is beyond me, but maybe it has to do with him being a sort of Dionysian counterpart to the Apollonic sun god, "Superman", as noted by author Frank Miller, who famously said he views the character as "a dionysian figure, a force for anarchy that imposes an individual order."

These next two videos won't mean anything to the uninitiated who aren't somewhat clued into just what sort of ass-paddling occultic weirdness the aristocracy is heavily into.

Nonetheless, for your consideration, Episode 33 of the show "Batman" entitled "Fine Finny Fiend" wherein we learn that Bruce Wayne's great-grandfather was the founder of Skull and Bones.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

And if that wasn't weird enough for you, here's Episode 911, I mean, 119 of the same show. Dr. Cassandra (Sandy if you prefer to shorten it) and her sidekick Kaballah rob the Alchemical Bank and Trust with an invisibility pill before creating a criminal empire with them at the apex.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Anyways, all I can say for sure is that Connecticut seems to have some well-heeled Batman fans.

[link to ca.ign.com]



Hey, let's ask Paul Craig Roberts, a former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal what he thinks of all this:

"Agenda-driven news is the reason that apparent inconsistencies in the Sandy Hook story were not investigated or explained. According to some reports, the medical examiner said the children were shot with a rifle, but other reports say the accused was found dead inside the school with two pistols and that a rifle was found outside in the car. The police capture a man in the woods who says “I didn’t do it.” How would a person in the woods know what has just happened? Who was the man? Was he investigated and released? Will we ever know?

Some reports say the school was locked and admission is via security camera and being buzzed in. Why would a heavily armed person be buzzed in? Other reports say he shot his way in. Why wouldn’t such a commotion have alerted the school?

Another puzzle is the video of a father whose child has supposedly been shot to pieces. Prior to the interview he is caught on camera laughing and joking, and then, like an actor, he pulls his face and voice into a presentation of grief for the interview. [link to www.youtube.com] and [link to www.youtube.com]

The spokesman for the Connecticut State Police is anxious to control the story, warns social media against posting information contrary to official information, but provides little information, refusing to answer most questions. The usual “ongoing investigation” is invoked, but Lanza has already been declared to be the killer and the number of dead reported. About the only hard information that emerges is that the police are investigating where every component of the weapons was manufactured. The relevance to the shooting of where the components of the weapons were manufactured is not explained.
The medical examiner’s press conference is weird. He is incoherent, unsure of what he is supposed to say, hasn’t answers to questions he should have, and defers to police.
Perhaps the best way to avoid fueling suspicion is for public officials not to hold press conferences until they are prepared to answer the relevant questions.

And where are the bodies? Like the alleged murder of Osama bin Laden by a SEAL, the crucial evidence is not provided. Paul Vance, the Connecticut State Police spokesman, said that the “victims’ bodies were removed from the school overnight” and that detectives “were able to positively identify all of the victims and make some formal notification to all of the families of the victims.”

Allegedly, no parent wanted to see the body of their dead child, but how do you know it is your child if you do not see the body? It is a strange kind of closure when it is provided to parents by impersonal detectives. Has anyone seen a body other than a state medical examiner and a few detectives? Where are the media’s films of body bags being carried out of the school? Why would Obama’s gun control agenda forego the propaganda of a procession of body bags being carried out of a school?

Perhaps the sensitivity issue prevailed, but with all the suspicion that already exists about the government and its claims, why fuel the suspicion by withholding visual evidence of the tragedy?

There are reports that when emergency medical help arrived at the school, the medical personnel were denied access to the children on the grounds that there were no survivors and the scene was too gruesome. Yet, there is a conflicting story that one six-year-old girl had the presence of mind to play dead and walked out of her classroom unscathed. If the story is true, how do we know that other survivors did not bleed to death from wounds because the emergency medical personnel were denied access? Did police exercise more control over the scene than was warranted?

It doesn’t seem to matter that questions are not answered and discrepancies are not resolved. The story is useful to the gun control agenda. Progressives, in order to achieve their agenda, are willing adjuncts of the police state. The facts of the shooting are less important than the use of the incident to achieve their agenda.
Probably there are answers to the questions. Moreover, the news reports that are the basis for questions could be incorrect. But why aren’t the answers provided and confusions cleared up? Instead, people who ask obvious questions are dismissed as “insensitive to the tragedy” or as “conspiracy kooks.” This in itself deepens suspicion.

The Colorado movie theater shooting has its own unresolved discrepancies. One eyewitness claimed that there were two shooters. Apparently, the suspect was captured sitting in a car in the theater parking lot, which seems strange. There are claims that the accused, a graduate student in neuroscience, was involved with the Defense Advance Research Projects Agency in mind control research and that he doesn’t remember doing the shooting.

Do we actually know? Apparently not. Wouldn’t it be preferable to investigate these claims rather than to leave them as unanswered sources of suspicion? The loose ends of the Colorado movie shooting contribute to the suspicions caused by news reports of the Sandy Hook shootings."

[link to www.lewrockwell.com]
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That is the best smiley ever.
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Here's a picture of nuns leaving the scene of the shooting, wearing size 14 shoes, with a long object under the overcoat:

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]

Here's a closeup shot. Do these girls seem a bit manly to you?

[link to i.huffpost.com]

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Please, not more nun crap.

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wow lots of info.good work
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Good compilation, OP.
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Here's a picture of nuns leaving the scene of the shooting, wearing size 14 shoes, with a long object under the overcoat:

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]

Here's a closeup shot. Do these girls seem a bit manly to you?

[link to i.huffpost.com]

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Please, not more nun crap.

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Maybe it's all the german porn.
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i would just add to a most reasonable op that central's largest client is the u.s.mil effectively making central a front
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Here's a picture of nuns leaving the scene of the shooting, wearing size 14 shoes, with a long object under the overcoat:

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]

Here's a closeup shot. Do these girls seem a bit manly to you?

[link to i.huffpost.com]

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Please, not more nun crap.

putin
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Maybe it's all the german porn.
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sideways

Seriously though, You should include these links from this thread (one of 6-8 about these two harmless old biddies.)

Thread: Sandy Hook Nuns....Picture!!! You Decide.

[link to newtownbee.com]

[link to newtownbee.com]

Which clearly shows who these women are, nuns, not covert operatives, or the Newtown ME, or Rip Torn as other people have suggested.
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Good compilation, OP.
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Thanks. Some of your work in there, I think.
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Here's a picture of nuns leaving the scene of the shooting, wearing size 14 shoes, with a long object under the overcoat:

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]

Here's a closeup shot. Do these girls seem a bit manly to you?

[link to i.huffpost.com]

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Please, not more nun crap.

putin
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Maybe it's all the german porn.
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sideways

Seriously though, You should include these links from this thread (one of 6-8 about these two harmless old biddies.)

Thread: Sandy Hook Nuns....Picture!!! You Decide.

[link to newtownbee.com]

[link to newtownbee.com]

Which clearly shows who these women are, nuns, not covert operatives, or the Newtown ME, or Rip Torn as other people have suggested.
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Sorry, would that be the same Newtown Bee that published an interview with the dead school principal Dawn Hochsprung? Let's ask the local newspaper in the town full of Satanists and stepford wives what they think, is that what you're saying?

Your caution would be warranted if I was alleging "these nuns are the killers", but I'm not. I'm alleging that the failure of the media to ask questions about any of the 3rd shooter stuff is highly suspicious.

They may well be nuns! Let's ask CNN what they think! They'd never LIE TO US.
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Good work also the next movie of the batman series director will be superman, also made by zach snyder. Both of these men have made movies about mind control. Inception and sucker punch.
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Watch the trailers for man of steal. Monarch butterflies, schoolbuses sinking. Kids hiding in closets. Weird shit everywhere these days.
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News report from officers about Victoria Soto's class:

6 children killed plus
7 children in closet (alive)
=
13 children
(There is a class picture of 15 children)

Then there is Rosen's account of 6 more children at his home that were from Victoria Soto's class.

The math does not add up.
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News report from officers about Victoria Soto's class:

6 children killed plus
7 children in closet (alive)
=
13 children
(There is a class picture of 15 children)

Then there is Rosen's account of 6 more children at his home that were from Victoria Soto's class.

The math does not add up.
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I tried to stick to taking an existentialist approach to hard data points that could be used to hammer the point home to someone with a short attention span.

I agree that your points are somewhat damning.

If you have some links available, I can try to work it into the list.
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Great write up and thank you for sticking to the facts only! This is the only way to ascertain the truth of the events that occurred.
Add to the list that they retrieved 2 guns from the trunk (yup, 2 of em') and another from the man arrested in the woods.
Why no interviews with the school janitor who was reportedly shouting at the shooter? No interviews with the first woman injured who was shot along with the Principal and school psychologist?
My theory is that the bushmaster was full auto and that's why every victim was shot between 3 and 11 times. It would also explain why some kids heard loud noises that didn't sound like gunshots.
You're also right about keeping the medical personnel out for too long while kids bled to death. There is a cover up going on for sure.
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excellent research.
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The interview w/ the guy who says Bill Ayers told him the Marxist/progressives would be willing to kill 25,000,000 (I think) Americans to achieve their goals would be a nice addition to the end of the post OP.

I can't remember his name unfortunately.
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News report from officers about Victoria Soto's class:

6 children killed plus
7 children in closet (alive)
=
13 children
(There is a class picture of 15 children)

Then there is Rosen's account of 6 more children at his home that were from Victoria Soto's class.

The math does not add up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28418966


I tried to stick to taking an existentialist approach to hard data points that could be used to hammer the point home to someone with a short attention span.

I agree that your points are somewhat damning.

If you have some links available, I can try to work it into the list.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13238461


From the Hartford Courant
[link to www.courant.com]

Lanza next arrived at teacher Victoria Soto's classroom. Soto is believed to have hidden her 6- and 7-year old students in a classroom closet. When Lanza demanded to know where the children were, Soto tried to divert him to the other end of the school by saying that her students were in the auditorium.

But six of Soto's students tried to flee. Lanza shot them, Soto and another teacher who was in the room. Later, in their search for survivors, police found the remaining seven of Soto's students still hiding in the closet. They told the police what had happened.

6 children killed plus 7 children in closet = 13 children

Class picture link
[link to www.examiner.com]

Shows 15 children

Things still make sense until we hear from Eugene Rosen.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

"We can't go back to school," one little boy told Rosen. "Our teacher is dead. Mrs. Soto; we don't have a teacher." Rosen, a 69-year-old retired psychologist, took the four girls and two boys into his home, and over the next few hours gave them toys, listened to their stories and called their frantic parents.

So a total of 6 children at Rosen's house.



RECAP
6 children killed
7 children alive in closet
6 children in Eugene Rosen's house

TOTAL of 19 children

School class picture shows a total of 15 children in Victoria Soto's class.
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See above post.

Here you go, added links and tried to make the inconsistency as plain as day.

You may want to add more links to what I have (especially video links of Eugene Rosen)
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News report from officers about Victoria Soto's class:

6 children killed plus
7 children in closet (alive)
=
13 children
(There is a class picture of 15 children)

Then there is Rosen's account of 6 more children at his home that were from Victoria Soto's class.

The math does not add up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28418966


I tried to stick to taking an existentialist approach to hard data points that could be used to hammer the point home to someone with a short attention span.

I agree that your points are somewhat damning.

If you have some links available, I can try to work it into the list.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13238461


From the Hartford Courant
[link to www.courant.com]

Lanza next arrived at teacher Victoria Soto's classroom. Soto is believed to have hidden her 6- and 7-year old students in a classroom closet. When Lanza demanded to know where the children were, Soto tried to divert him to the other end of the school by saying that her students were in the auditorium.

But six of Soto's students tried to flee. Lanza shot them, Soto and another teacher who was in the room. Later, in their search for survivors, police found the remaining seven of Soto's students still hiding in the closet. They told the police what had happened.

6 children killed plus 7 children in closet = 13 children

Class picture link
[link to www.examiner.com]

Shows 15 children

Things still make sense until we hear from Eugene Rosen.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

"We can't go back to school," one little boy told Rosen. "Our teacher is dead. Mrs. Soto; we don't have a teacher." Rosen, a 69-year-old retired psychologist, took the four girls and two boys into his home, and over the next few hours gave them toys, listened to their stories and called their frantic parents.

So a total of 6 children at Rosen's house.



RECAP
6 children killed
7 children alive in closet
6 children in Eugene Rosen's house

TOTAL of 19 children

School class picture shows a total of 15 children in Victoria Soto's class.
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Shit, it won't let me edit the original post. That's awesome though. Good work.
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News report from officers about Victoria Soto's class:

6 children killed plus
7 children in closet (alive)
=
13 children
(There is a class picture of 15 children)

Then there is Rosen's account of 6 more children at his home that were from Victoria Soto's class.

The math does not add up.
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I tried to stick to taking an existentialist approach to hard data points that could be used to hammer the point home to someone with a short attention span.

I agree that your points are somewhat damning.

If you have some links available, I can try to work it into the list.
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From the Hartford Courant
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Lanza next arrived at teacher Victoria Soto's classroom. Soto is believed to have hidden her 6- and 7-year old students in a classroom closet. When Lanza demanded to know where the children were, Soto tried to divert him to the other end of the school by saying that her students were in the auditorium.

But six of Soto's students tried to flee. Lanza shot them, Soto and another teacher who was in the room. Later, in their search for survivors, police found the remaining seven of Soto's students still hiding in the closet. They told the police what had happened.

6 children killed plus 7 children in closet = 13 children

Class picture link
[link to www.examiner.com]

Shows 15 children

Things still make sense until we hear from Eugene Rosen.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

"We can't go back to school," one little boy told Rosen. "Our teacher is dead. Mrs. Soto; we don't have a teacher." Rosen, a 69-year-old retired psychologist, took the four girls and two boys into his home, and over the next few hours gave them toys, listened to their stories and called their frantic parents.

So a total of 6 children at Rosen's house.



RECAP
6 children killed
7 children alive in closet
6 children in Eugene Rosen's house

TOTAL of 19 children

School class picture shows a total of 15 children in Victoria Soto's class.
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Shit, it won't let me edit the original post. That's awesome though. Good work.
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The least I could do compared to your whole analysis. I loved it.
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I tried to stick to taking an existentialist approach to hard data points that could be used to hammer the point home to someone with a short attention span.

I agree that your points are somewhat damning.

If you have some links available, I can try to work it into the list.
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From the Hartford Courant
[link to www.courant.com]

Lanza next arrived at teacher Victoria Soto's classroom. Soto is believed to have hidden her 6- and 7-year old students in a classroom closet. When Lanza demanded to know where the children were, Soto tried to divert him to the other end of the school by saying that her students were in the auditorium.

But six of Soto's students tried to flee. Lanza shot them, Soto and another teacher who was in the room. Later, in their search for survivors, police found the remaining seven of Soto's students still hiding in the closet. They told the police what had happened.

6 children killed plus 7 children in closet = 13 children

Class picture link
[link to www.examiner.com]

Shows 15 children

Things still make sense until we hear from Eugene Rosen.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

"We can't go back to school," one little boy told Rosen. "Our teacher is dead. Mrs. Soto; we don't have a teacher." Rosen, a 69-year-old retired psychologist, took the four girls and two boys into his home, and over the next few hours gave them toys, listened to their stories and called their frantic parents.

So a total of 6 children at Rosen's house.



RECAP
6 children killed
7 children alive in closet
6 children in Eugene Rosen's house

TOTAL of 19 children

School class picture shows a total of 15 children in Victoria Soto's class.
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Shit, it won't let me edit the original post. That's awesome though. Good work.
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The least I could do compared to your whole analysis. I loved it.
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Good. Modified my original blog entry that I had based this post on. I may repost it later... need to get this information out, and it's clear that TPTB are nervous about it. Agree that there's some fucking problems with that Rosen guy and when I have a chance later on I'm gonna do some more looking into it.

[link to tragedyrestore.blogspot.ca]

For your entertainment. cool2

I have the feeling that the truth is going to come out on this one. Wondering if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
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Re: Badass Sandy Hook info compilation - no garbage or red herrings, just facts, tell your friends
From wikipedia
In Connecticut, newtown is listed 38 in population
rank 38,city Newtown, population 26,737

Why did it take so long for police to arrive to a high alert shooting at a school? The population is low at newtown.

How can we know if the shooter spoke,or anyone else if the witnesses/victims are dead?
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OP needs more Rosen,

audition tapes:

Interview 1:
Where he talks about a man with the children

Interview 2:
then it's a female busdriver

Interview 3:
Again with the man?

Interview 4:
Woman busdriver, okay this is getting silly now.

Mexican Interview:
Same performance in Spanish.

Did I miss any of the different stories about why he was outside in the first place?

1) coming home from walking pets
2) going out to breakfast
3) heard gunshots
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The interview w/ the guy who says Bill Ayers told him the Marxist/progressives would be willing to kill 25,000,000 (I think) Americans to achieve their goals would be a nice addition to the end of the post OP.

I can't remember his name unfortunately.
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that's alright it sounds like bullshit anyways
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Re: Badass Sandy Hook info compilation - no garbage or red herrings, just facts, tell your friends
News report from officers about Victoria Soto's class:

6 children killed plus
7 children in closet (alive)
=
13 children
(There is a class picture of 15 children)

Then there is Rosen's account of 6 more children at his home that were from Victoria Soto's class.

The math does not add up.
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It's possible some of the kids in Rosen's driveway were from a different class. Unlikely, but most logical explanation.
What I have not seen is any "reunion" of the kids with Rosen - wouldn't the networks want to try to set that up? "good ole uncle Gene w/ the children he comforted" kinda crap? Maybe they realize his story doesn't add up so they're ditching him as part of the narrative.
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News report from officers about Victoria Soto's class:

6 children killed plus
7 children in closet (alive)
=
13 children
(There is a class picture of 15 children)

Then there is Rosen's account of 6 more children at his home that were from Victoria Soto's class.

The math does not add up.
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It's possible some of the kids in Rosen's driveway were from a different class. Unlikely, but most logical explanation.
What I have not seen is any "reunion" of the kids with Rosen - wouldn't the networks want to try to set that up? "good ole uncle Gene w/ the children he comforted" kinda crap? Maybe they realize his story doesn't add up so they're ditching him as part of the narrative.
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Any bus driver that leaves children with an unknown man would be either fired and or arrested? Right?
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Re: Badass Sandy Hook info compilation - no garbage or red herrings, just facts, tell your friends
News report from officers about Victoria Soto's class:

6 children killed plus
7 children in closet (alive)
=
13 children
(There is a class picture of 15 children)

Then there is Rosen's account of 6 more children at his home that were from Victoria Soto's class.

The math does not add up.
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It's possible some of the kids in Rosen's driveway were from a different class. Unlikely, but most logical explanation.
What I have not seen is any "reunion" of the kids with Rosen - wouldn't the networks want to try to set that up? "good ole uncle Gene w/ the children he comforted" kinda crap? Maybe they realize his story doesn't add up so they're ditching him as part of the narrative.
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No, sorry, it is not possible that those kids could have been from a different class. Rosen himself said all six were from Soto's class. He mentioned how one boy taked about 'his teacher being dead, blood coming out of her mouth...'

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