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Freemason scumbags, you won't win

 
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The gods of nature and reason at work.

Mankind, on its own, is doomed to this scenario you live amongst, the fruits of corruption alright.

Goodluck and blessings to you !
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I would say that if we were truthful to ourselves,

and to God,

We could only answer truthfully that every church,

Every Temple, has some cleaning up to do.

Which is worthy?

Which is perfect?
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Yes, but the no:1 loyalty is to the brotherhood.

There is no definitive leader or lodge which can answer
the ambiguities, set the record straight, so consistency
is missing, and these variations occur between lodges.
 Quoting: K.Kool


What you say is true.

Now allow me to explain why.

Freemasonry is about just that, being free.

There is a basic outline for which all lodges must follow, but that is to have a foundation upon which to build something universal.

It is very basic, and I will reveal it all right here, for the secrets are not what you think.

First of all, it only takes 3 Master Masons to establish a lodge.

Why?

Because spiritually, we are unique. When you force people to congregate as one, it leads to suppression of the spirit.

Thus, in Freemasonry, rather than be stuck with a group of people you genuinely do not get along with, 3 or more can establish their own lodge.

Now each Lodge is sub-serviant to it's Grand Lodge.

For most places, the Grand Lodge is the country of origin.

However, in America, the Grand Lodge is at the State Level.

Each State Grand Lodge is Sovereign.

This means absolutely that. It answers to no one.

That is the full limit of the power.

In each Lodge, the leadership is elected annually.



The whole purpose of the Brotherhood is one thing, charity.

Really, that is all it is.

Religion is not discussed.


Only the community is discussed and how these men can help it.

That's all, I swear.



Now, I do have things against the Fraternity.

They do not allow women nor recognise lodges that do in the US.

This is a big error on their part.

In the beginning God created MAN.

Therefore, women even fit the eligibility.


What you obligate yourself to do in Freemasonry is nothing more than you would do for a Brother if you truly loved him.
 Quoting: IAMIAM




But what about the levels of membership, why do you believe you know the plans that the higher up's have?
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"A mind is like a parachute, it functions best when open"

Freemasons are very open minded, au contraire to the dogma's the papacy suffering under.

Yes, I am a Freemason, and proud of it. In fact I was there last night for an initiation(not mine btw, I am further down the path) and it was beautiful:)
"The Light shines, and Darkness does not Understand"

So, in your logic, OP, one bad guy in the papacy and you will reject all?
Give me the rejected stone and I will lift up a building..
Idol1 Idol1 Idol1

are you gonna bane me, OP? cos in your logic I am your enemy.., oh and btw I grew up a catholic but I hated it.
 Quoting: Fun-Da-Mental


But you only need a parachute when you are falling.

Since you do your deeds in darkness while others do theirs in the light one is entitled to enquire why you identify with darkness and not light? Why should people not know? Who hides a light under a bushel? Why should people be mind raped by masons everyday against their will and knowledge?

I've been offered riches and received threats of torture and murder. Those might be beautiful things to you. As for me, just a feeling of disgust.
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It is a fact that you can not be a freemason and a christian at the same time.

Freemasonry accepts paganism and those that accept, and break bread with those that worship pagan gods are abhorrent to god and is Biblically well documented.

Mason's just choose to take the oath to be hoodwinked and so misunderstand that there are TWO meanings to everything they do, every blood oath they take, upon everything secret word that destines their fate.

So mote it be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1499647


Please try andstate the true facts, as what you've said in your first line is completely untrue.
Freenmasonry accepts all religions(that have a belief in a Supreme being)and there are MANY Christians, Muslims, Hindu's Jewish members.
Big ......"FAIL...........!!!!!bump
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But what about the levels of membership, why do you believe you know the plans that the higher up's have?
 Quoting: K.Kool


I know my Freemasonry.

And I know what they are about.

They aren't recruiting.

They just teach that you do charity quietly, for the sake of charity.

Anyone can join.

All you have to do is ask.

When I was Master of the Lodge,

11 of us active members raised enough money to award 4 scholarships of $2000.00 each to local students.

Education is a prime undertaking in Freemasonry.

The first degree is focused on subduing ones passions and learning self control.

The second degree teaches one to pursue an in depth education, particularly the liberal arts and sciences.

The third degree focuses on the three attributes of friendship, morality, and brotherly love.

It also emphasizes Geometry. For it is by geometry that we can get a better appreciation for the precise arrangement of the Universe, as a testament to the awesome power of that Almighty Creator, however you have come to know it.
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It should be understood that Freemasonry is not a substitute for religion.

You are encouraged to participate in the religion of your choosing.

Yes, even Catholicism.
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K.Kool (OP)

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It is a fact that you can not be a freemason and a christian at the same time.

Freemasonry accepts paganism and those that accept, and break bread with those that worship pagan gods are abhorrent to god and is Biblically well documented.

Mason's just choose to take the oath to be hoodwinked and so misunderstand that there are TWO meanings to everything they do, every blood oath they take, upon everything secret word that destines their fate.

So mote it be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1499647


Please try andstate the true facts, as what you've said in your first line is completely untrue.
Freenmasonry accepts all religions(that have a belief in a Supreme being)and there are MANY Christians, Muslims, Hindu's Jewish members.
Big ......"FAIL...........!!!!!bump
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Uhum...you misunderstand, perhaps deliberately,

of course freemasonry is unsectarian,

but if you are a Christian, you cannot put 'brothers'

or reason or nature or a science of morality, or even an

abstract notion of love, before Christ.

You cannot take an oath to secrecy, either.
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Uhum...you misunderstand, perhaps deliberately,

of course freemasonry is unsectarian,

but if you are a Christian, you cannot put 'brothers'

or reason or nature or a science of morality, or even an

abstract notion of love, before Christ.

You cannot take an oath to secrecy, either.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

Freemasons are not very secret in places where oppression do not exist.

Anyone can go to their public meetings.

The private meetings are for initiations of lodge business.

Lodge business is paying bills, figuring out what charity work to do.
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K.Kool (OP)

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Uhum...you misunderstand, perhaps deliberately,

of course freemasonry is unsectarian,

but if you are a Christian, you cannot put 'brothers'

or reason or nature or a science of morality, or even an

abstract notion of love, before Christ.

You cannot take an oath to secrecy, either.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Wise as serpents and harmless as doves.

Freemasons are not very secret in places where oppression do not exist.

Anyone can go to their public meetings.

The private meetings are for initiations of lodge business.

Lodge business is paying bills, figuring out what charity work to do.
 Quoting: IAMIAM



So you keep saying.

Yet, they hold spiritual and ideological tenets, which I see promulgated in my culture, increasingly accepted by the majority as self-evident truths, such as that religion is bad.
And, as many have said, if the only aim is to practise charity, why the secrecy and oaths?
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So you keep saying.

Yet, they hold spiritual and ideological tenets, which I see promulgated in my culture, increasingly accepted by the majority as self-evident truths, such as that religion is bad.
And, as many have said, if the only aim is to practise charity, why the secrecy and oaths?
 Quoting: K.Kool


The only "semi" religious component I would say the lodge has Is the opening prayers, some prayers which are said during initiations, but all the prayers used come directly from the Bible, particularly the old testament. The candidate takes an obligation over an open Bible (this being a requirement in ALL regular and well governed lodges), and is encouraged to seek it's light.

The Holy Bible is what is considered The Great Light in Masonry.

So, if they are evil, they are as evil as any other religion based on the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.


Thus says the Lord.

If I smite one, I will smite them all.
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And, as many have said, if the only aim is to practise charity, why the secrecy and oaths?
 Quoting: K.Kool


The reason for secrecy and oaths is because it is a family you must choose to be a part of.

It is just another room in the Mansion.

Trust me.
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I'm a FM, and I'm a good person. I've saved many lives and have only taken one justifiably. I wish people would stop demonizing FMs. But I guess they won't.
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I'm a FM, and I'm a good person. I've saved many lives and have only taken one justifiably. I wish people would stop demonizing FMs. But I guess they won't.
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And who was Tubal Cain?
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Uhum...you misunderstand, perhaps deliberately,

of course freemasonry is unsectarian,

but if you are a Christian, you cannot put 'brothers'

or reason or nature or a science of morality, or even an

abstract notion of love, before Christ.

You cannot take an oath to secrecy, either.
 Quoting: K.Kool


There is NO misunderstanding here, whatsoever.
it's plain fact.
You speak of Brothers......the catholic church has ......"fathers"
..and in your words, you cannot "'brothers'

or reason or nature or a science of morality, or even an

abstract notion of love, before Christ.".......but you can have "fathers".
As for secrecy........priests take a secrecy not to reveal that which is told to them......even crimes against innocent children.
Wake up to yourself.......you know there is an inqiry into the sexual abuse of children and the church is mortified.


Clean up your own backyard first lady.....!
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So you keep saying.

Yet, they hold spiritual and ideological tenets, which I see promulgated in my culture, increasingly accepted by the majority as self-evident truths, such as that religion is bad.
And, as many have said, if the only aim is to practise charity, why the secrecy and oaths?
 Quoting: K.Kool


The only "semi" religious component I would say the lodge has Is the opening prayers, some prayers which are said during initiations, but all the prayers used come directly from the Bible, particularly the old testament. The candidate takes an obligation over an open Bible (this being a requirement in ALL regular and well governed lodges), and is encouraged to seek it's light.

The Holy Bible is what is considered The Great Light in Masonry.

So, if they are evil, they are as evil as any other religion based on the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.


Thus says the Lord.

If I smite one, I will smite them all.
 Quoting: IAMIAM
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But what about the levels of membership, why do you believe you know the plans that the higher up's have?
 Quoting: K.Kool


I know my Freemasonry.

And I know what they are about.

They aren't recruiting.

They just teach that you do charity quietly, for the sake of charity.

Anyone can join.

All you have to do is ask.

When I was Master of the Lodge,

11 of us active members raised enough money to award 4 scholarships of $2000.00 each to local students.

Education is a prime undertaking in Freemasonry.

The first degree is focused on subduing ones passions and learning self control.

The second degree teaches one to pursue an in depth education, particularly the liberal arts and sciences.

The third degree focuses on the three attributes of friendship, morality, and brotherly love.


It also emphasizes Geometry. For it is by geometry that we can get a better appreciation for the precise arrangement of the Universe, as a testament to the awesome power of that Almighty Creator, however you have come to know it.
 Quoting: IAMIAM


John Masons (first three, in all Masonic Orgs) are essentially useful idiots.

Hell, Al Capone generously tipped the doorman.

What is the overall agenda of Masons, and more importantly, what is the ultimate goal of their Masters who they slavisly serve?
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What is the overall agenda of Masons, and more importantly, what is the ultimate goal of their Masters who they slavisly serve?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2400787


At the third degree you are a Master Mason.

This means you are dead level with everyone else.

You are Level with the Catholic Priest beside you, the congress man, the plumber, the iron worker, the returning Vet, the civilian, in Lodge you are dead level.

The Master of the Lodge has ceremonial, and administrative power when Lodge is open, but that is to maintain order during lodge business, discussing bills, deciding what charity to do next, etc...
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So you keep saying.

Yet, they hold spiritual and ideological tenets, which I see promulgated in my culture, increasingly accepted by the majority as self-evident truths, such as that religion is bad.
And, as many have said, if the only aim is to practise charity, why the secrecy and oaths?
 Quoting: K.Kool


The only "semi" religious component I would say the lodge has Is the opening prayers, some prayers which are said during initiations, but all the prayers used come directly from the Bible, particularly the old testament. The candidate takes an obligation over an open Bible (this being a requirement in ALL regular and well governed lodges), and is encouraged to seek it's light.

The Holy Bible is what is considered The Great Light in Masonry.

So, if they are evil, they are as evil as any other religion based on the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.


Thus says the Lord.

If I smite one, I will smite them all.
 Quoting: IAMIAM




Ahh so, you are claiming 'religion' status now?



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I'll be back with more on this, but the day has claimed me for now.
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Sorry my reply was swallowed. So why the symbolism? Why the ceremonies in secret? Why the oaths? All religious elements.

So it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, but it's a lemon.
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You are Level with the Catholic Priest beside you, the congress man, the plumber, the iron worker, the returning Vet, the civilian, in Lodge you are dead level.

 Quoting: IAMIAM


So the catholic has gained nothing through Christ? The plumber who believes Satan is the One True God is on the level with the catholic Priest?

See a problem?
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Yet when the priest goes before the lay people in his congregation he is seen as leader, but he is just level with the Satanist plumber.
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You are Level with the Catholic Priest beside you, the congress man, the plumber, the iron worker, the returning Vet, the civilian, in Lodge you are dead level.

 Quoting: IAMIAM


So the catholic has gained nothing through Christ? The plumber who believes Satan is the One True God is on the level with the catholic Priest?

See a problem?
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In lodge, you do not know what the religion is of the Brother next to you.

You are there to work on your communities.
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Ahh so, you are claiming 'religion' status now?
 Quoting: K.Kool


No, that is not what I am doing.

My friend, perhaps you have not been following me.

Please review my work before we go any further.

I reveal everything to you, So you know who I am.

But you have to give me the courtesy of hearing me out.

So, please read to the end before we discuss these matters again.

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In lodge, you do not know what the religion is of the Brother next to you.

You are there to work on your communities.
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Yes you do. He is a fellow freemason. The 'unknown' is which god you work for. Obviously your god is above all others else that god would not be above all the other faiths. Now the unknown God was proclaimed to you as now known. But you have hidden God again, covered God over, dismissed God from the assembly. Each man turned to his own way. Are you telling me, without oaths, and ceremonies you can not contribute to the community?
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It is a fact that you can not be a freemason and a christian at the same time.

Freemasonry accepts paganism and those that accept, and break bread with those that worship pagan gods are abhorrent to god and is Biblically well documented.

Mason's just choose to take the oath to be hoodwinked and so misunderstand that there are TWO meanings to everything they do, every blood oath they take, upon everything secret word that destines their fate.

So mote it be.
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Don't you know that I gather where I have not sown?

Away from me you worker of iniquity!
 Quoting: IAMIAM


I thought about that.
Faithful and Truth
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Faith to me is having left the sanctuaries of men and their theology, and to come out from among them that dance around a golden calf, by the making of their own hands, entrusting completely and without reserve to God within.

Lotus Seed-Heart Seed:)
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Obviously your god is above all others else that god would not be above all the other faiths.
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And Obviously you don't know who the fuck I am.

You open your fucking soup cooler before you have even introduced your self and met the person you are speaking to.

Have I said ANYTHING about my God to you?

No I didn't.

But since you asked motherfucker,

I am the gorilla in the midst showing the WORLD

That my God has the biggest dick in the joint.

You wanna Try me?

Take my walk.
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GOD is not partial, what about that?
Faithful and Truth
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Faith to me is having left the sanctuaries of men and their theology, and to come out from among them that dance around a golden calf, by the making of their own hands, entrusting completely and without reserve to God within.

Lotus Seed-Heart Seed:)
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Damn right, I'm at war with the likes of you Deceiver.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I am not returning the favor.

I am not your enemy and never was.

If you want war, then YOU come and crucify me.

I submit.
 Quoting: IAMIAM



Of course you're not a personal enemy,

the war is both old and new,

Freemasons vs Catholic Church

satan vs God

we both know who will win.

I guess I didn't take you guys seriously before,

all that cloak and daggers stuff

but now I see much more clearly

I'd puzzled about the source of the bullshit philosophies

sprouting up everywhere,

the self is god, the secret, nwo, all we need is reason etc

now I know.

And because there is hardly ever another defender of the

Church here, I have to set the record straight

and speak the truth.
 Quoting: K.Kool



Wait wait wait.

The Catholic Church is supposed to be the GOOD GUY?

Nobody saw that coming.
Overstand, this isn't a sermon from the hill, but a 'Trespassers Will Be Shot' Sign.
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ummm...no.they are the biggest harlot!
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Lotus Seed-Heart Seed:)
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ummm...no.they are the biggest harlot!
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