Moon totally on it's side right now

Holy shit, that is not a logical reason, but that is a transparent revealing of your fucking bias.

Fine, fake a photo of the fucking moon, get in a time machine, publish it in a book 20 years ago, and then take a video of the book you published 20 years ago and make sure I can find it in a library myself and verify you published it 20 years ago if I so choose.

I'm willing to bet you don't have a fucking time machine.

Because statements such as this "I disregard it because i'm in an argument with someone who would be helped by the contents of the picture" are incredibly telling, useful, and revealing. I would do this 20x over just to get a statement like that out of you. I'm not doing this for your benefit, that's for damn sure.

You know, rather than obsess about trying to prove me wrong on "small points" in my arguments where I'm clearly right, maybe you should shut up and start learning from me instead. You won't of course, but the amazingly revealing statements you make are worth it anwyay.

And that, ladies and gentleman, is how you destroy the mentally ill.

Oh Astro, why do you waste your time?

There is NO logical reason to assume fakery of a photo taken 40 years ago, published in a book 20 years ago, when this phenomenon is supposedly new to within the last decade. If it didn't happen back then, there is no logical reason to assume they would fake a photo to make the moon look normal in a horizontal position if it really wasn't a normal position for the moon to be in. It's up to you to prove they faked it, or accept it, your choice. There is no logical alternative. Even worse for you, I also showed you an amateur photo published over 20 years ago as well. So now you can't even make ad hominem appeals to "NASA" as being untrustworthy.

Oh god astro.. You are literally just too stupid to argue with. Who are you to tell me what a logical reason for me to do something is?

but around here we don't take handouts from the same people who lie to us every other day when it benefits our argument.

If you consider nasa or that amateur astronomer to be a factual and credible, and convincable source of information for you to base your belief in feel free to do so, but please do not ask that I lower myself to this level of stupidity.

It comes from the mother of all fake images..

Lol if you wanna search for support in a topic about nasa faking images I think you'll be reasonably outnumbered.

The frequency of a claim has nothing to do with the veracity of a claim. I really don't give a damn how many people claim it.

Let's just agree to disagree astro I've exhausted myself talking to you, personally i'ma go get high. You can have fun talking to yourself here

An observation is not debunkable..
In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being
off, etc..

lacking access to historical data

and modern measurement techniques,

and the know how to use them..

the average, casual observer must depend on the experts.

A true expert does not get emotional or irritated.

Lol prove any of the things you have said astro it's not hard for all to see you can not. SHILL=DEAD Astro can eat a bag of dicks i'm so done with this thread.

I don't want a copy as it serves no purpose.. it's digital imagery astro. When are you gonna realize pictures are not proof? That's like saying obviously tom cruise is ascended.. he was in war of the worlds.

Arguing the point that you couldn't prove any of the things you had said. Any still haven't.. Still not seeing where i'm wrong here lol

Feel free to go kill as many of your few remaining brain cells as you like. In case you didn't notice (there's a little microphone icon in front of the thread title) I've had such a good time disproving this bullshit I even made a voice chat room for this thread.

An observation is not debunkable..
In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being
off, etc.. lacking access to historical data and
modern measurement techniques, and the know
how to use them.. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts.

A true expert does not get emotional or irritated.
He will state his case, provide empirical evidence, substantiation and possibly peer references..

Something is wrong when the mere statement of observation garners such vitriol and insult.
The karma tells the tale.

As the bard would have said..

'The lady doth protest too much, methinks..'

Also notice, all images of Earth from cosmos is copyrighted by NASA.

Moon in his movement has many anomalies, but this is too much.

Carving a post into elements in an attempt to
refute the whole, doesn't diminish the
original... to someone with discernment.






Point by point..

- not a conclusion.. an example to illustrate a point

- the average person wouldn't know where to
find nor correlate historic moon position information and data covering a span of time

- who among the average Joes has access to precise time measurements
and lasers,etc. to measure celestial bodies..
and the expertise to apply them in comparison to historic data
that may or may not even exist?

- I never said that I could or couldn't do it..
I'm talking about the average Joe.
And who are the us that you speak of..?

- I don't do 'parties'.

- Experts don't frequent conspiracy forums to demean
those who aren't specialists in their particular discipline.
If they do.. I suspect they are flawed in character.

Who cares what you or any other average joe is incapable of? Amateur astronomers are not average joes at astronomy. And yes, classifying it as off is a conclusion, not an observation. You missed the point.

Feel free to go kill as many of your few remaining brain cells as you like. In case you didn't notice (there's a little microphone icon in front of the thread title) I've had such a good time disproving this bullshit I even made a voice chat room for this thread.

You're an effing troll, and everybody knows it.


Yet you are completely credulous of the letters on your digital screen when they are signed Waterbug (who, for all we know might just be a spambot).

The moment a person forms a theory his imagination sees in every object only the traits which favor that theory. — Thomas Jefferson


Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. — Thomas Jefferson


And a bonus:

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. — Thomas Jefferson

Carving a post into elements in an attempt to
refute the whole, doesn't diminish the
original... to someone with discernment.






Point by point..

- not a conclusion.. an example to illustrate a point

- the average person wouldn't know where to
find nor correlate historic moon position information and data covering a span of time

- who among the average Joes has access to precise time measurements
and lasers,etc. to measure celestial bodies..
and the expertise to apply them in comparison to historic data
that may or may not even exist?

- I never said that I could or couldn't do it..
I'm talking about the average Joe.
And who are the us that you speak of..?

- I don't do 'parties'.

- Experts don't frequent conspiracy forums to demean
those who aren't specialists in their particular discipline.
If they do.. I suspect they are flawed in character.

Moon visibility is also affected by Parallax. It means, that in different latitudes, Moon will look differently. Parallax is counted, assuming, that Earth is round sphere. But what is strange, the same day OP posted it, here, where I am, was cloudy, but possible to see something. There was no Moon at all. And we are more or less on same latitude.
Also notice, all images of Earth from cosmos is copyrighted by NASA.
Moon in his movement has many anomalies, but this is too much.

That was the point.

Let me clarify it for you..

The average Joe is not capable of measuring these anomalies.
All the average Joe can do is make observations.
They depend on experts to do their jobs with integrity.

An observation by an average Joe is not debunkable.
He sees what he sees.