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aliensbro (OP) User ID: 32040337 United States 01/19/2013 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is the moon still hanging crooked? Quoting: ehecatl Someone needs to climb up there and adjust it. Sometimes a crow comes along and bumps it, and the cord that runs behind it is not quite centered on the nail. Let's not get into the hologram aspect of the moon as I really don't want my karma to take another red hit lmao. |
DUCM900 User ID: 32573380 Italy 01/19/2013 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is the moon still hanging crooked? Quoting: ehecatl Someone needs to climb up there and adjust it. Sometimes a crow comes along and bumps it, and the cord that runs behind it is not quite centered on the nail. Let's not get into the hologram aspect of the moon as I really don't want my karma to take another red hit lmao. You really care about fake GLP karma? Did you ever ask yourself wht the TrollShills in this site, have all good green "karma" level? lmao, not very difficult to get... . |
aliensbro (OP) User ID: 32040337 United States 01/19/2013 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is the moon still hanging crooked? Quoting: ehecatl Someone needs to climb up there and adjust it. Sometimes a crow comes along and bumps it, and the cord that runs behind it is not quite centered on the nail. Let's not get into the hologram aspect of the moon as I really don't want my karma to take another red hit lmao. You really care about fake GLP karma? Did you ever ask yourself wht the TrollShills in this site, have all good green "karma" level? lmao, not very difficult to get... . I've been asking myself the entirity of this thread how so many people could've been stupid enough to give astro green karma. No I don't really care, but it affects my credibility and may cause people to just go with another argument based on negative karma, which is how alot of stupid people base their beliefs. |
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Osmos User ID: 13829092 United States 01/19/2013 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not to mention the only thing anybody wanted to do on this thread is flame me. As if I have some bias to want the moon to be off lmao.. Since the night I posted this thread the moon has been normal every night since. Like I said it's not something that happens every day, so no it's not blatantly noticeable. But there is something wrong with our moon and those with eyes have noticed. Anyone still fronting that it's normal has an agenda. Quoting: aliensbro Yes, that agenda is called science. |
DUCM900 User ID: 32573380 Italy 01/19/2013 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: aliensbro SO is the Earth wobbling or something? . Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 01/19/2013 10:51 AM |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 01/19/2013 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not to mention the only thing anybody wanted to do on this thread is flame me. As if I have some bias to want the moon to be off lmao.. Since the night I posted this thread the moon has been normal every night since. Like I said it's not something that happens every day, so no it's not blatantly noticeable. But there is something wrong with our moon and those with eyes have noticed. Anyone still fronting that it's normal has an agenda. Quoting: aliensbro Yes, that agenda is called science. I don't know if you meant it that way.. but yes... Definite agenda. True science is absent agenda, dispassionate and fact-based. |
aliensbro (OP) User ID: 32040337 United States 01/19/2013 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone else ever get fuckin sick of trying to help people? It's like you provide them with info relevant to their existence, and they spit it back at you.. Even if I were wrong, which I'm not. Why would you criticize someone so for trying to help you? Ignorance. Science.. let's all take lessons from school textbooks now.. Lmao what ignorance is this? |
aliensbro (OP) User ID: 32040337 United States 01/19/2013 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not to mention the only thing anybody wanted to do on this thread is flame me. As if I have some bias to want the moon to be off lmao.. Since the night I posted this thread the moon has been normal every night since. Like I said it's not something that happens every day, so no it's not blatantly noticeable. But there is something wrong with our moon and those with eyes have noticed. Anyone still fronting that it's normal has an agenda. Quoting: aliensbro Yes, that agenda is called science. I don't know if you meant it that way.. but yes... Definite agenda. True science is absent agenda, dispassionate and fact-based. Dispassionate, and that is clearly not the case here. |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 01/19/2013 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The moment a person forms a theory his imagination sees in every object only the traits which favor that theory. — Thomas Jefferson Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD Take your dick out of astro for a second and put a condom on, he's fuckin dirty. Your so far up his ass I doubt you even know what this thread is about anymore. Why are you lashing out at me? It's not my fault YOU are incapable of providing evidence for YOUR claims. IOW your standards of evidence vary depending on whether or not something supports your position. That is intellectually dishonest and irrational. Look who's talking. You mindlessly regurgitate every unevidenced claim that supports your delusion without giving it any critical thought. You're a black sheep perhaps, but definitely a sheep. You do not have credibility. You could acquire some by providing evidence for your claims. Never gonna happen of course. You know you're wrong, you know that by now you're just trolling. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
aliensbro (OP) User ID: 32040337 United States 01/19/2013 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The moment a person forms a theory his imagination sees in every object only the traits which favor that theory. — Thomas Jefferson Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD Take your dick out of astro for a second and put a condom on, he's fuckin dirty. Your so far up his ass I doubt you even know what this thread is about anymore. Why are you lashing out at me? It's not my fault YOU are incapable of providing evidence for YOUR claims. IOW your standards of evidence vary depending on whether or not something supports your position. That is intellectually dishonest and irrational. Look who's talking. You mindlessly regurgitate every unevidenced claim that supports your delusion without giving it any critical thought. You're a black sheep perhaps, but definitely a sheep. You do not have credibility. You could acquire some by providing evidence for your claims. Never gonna happen of course. You know you're wrong, you know that by now you're just trolling. I lash out at you because you don't even have the know how to try to prove what astro is saying, but yet your agreeing with him as if you did the research yourself. Find your own argument and don't jump on the winning side just because it's astro. I guarantee you, you will all see the moon for what it is soon. There will be no more questions. |
Osmos User ID: 13829092 United States 01/19/2013 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not to mention the only thing anybody wanted to do on this thread is flame me. As if I have some bias to want the moon to be off lmao.. Since the night I posted this thread the moon has been normal every night since. Like I said it's not something that happens every day, so no it's not blatantly noticeable. But there is something wrong with our moon and those with eyes have noticed. Anyone still fronting that it's normal has an agenda. Quoting: aliensbro Yes, that agenda is called science. I don't know if you meant it that way.. but yes... Definite agenda. True science is absent agenda, dispassionate and fact-based. Please don't use semantics as a reasoning ploy, you know fully what I was implying. The cognitive dissonance shown in these threads is astounding. There are plenty of genuinely real concerns that are discussed on this board, this is not one of them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32148084 United States 01/19/2013 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My husband and I noticed the same thing over Dallas the other night--the moon was perfectly horizontal with no tilt. We've noticed numerous times in the past that it's been more and more horizontal, but as OP stated, this is the first time it was a perfect 'smiley face' smile. I'm 60; he's 63 and we've been observing the moon for a very long time--it's only been in the past couple of years that we've seen this drift toward the horizontal. The moon has always before, in our experience, waxed and waned to the right and left, with a vertical crescent like a parenthesis ')'. |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 01/19/2013 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take your dick out of astro for a second and put a condom on, he's fuckin dirty. Your so far up his ass I doubt you even know what this thread is about anymore. Quoting: aliensbro Why are you lashing out at me? It's not my fault YOU are incapable of providing evidence for YOUR claims. I lash out at you because you don't even have the know how to try to prove what astro is saying, but yet your agreeing with him as if you did the research yourself. Don't be silly. I've known about Wet Moons and field rotation and such since I was a little boy. You being ignorant about how the universe works is very much your own problem. I've got nothing to proof. YOU do. YOU are the one making extraordinary counterfactual claims. YOU have failed to provide even ordinary evidence for it. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
aliensbro (OP) User ID: 32040337 United States 01/19/2013 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My husband and I noticed the same thing over Dallas the other night--the moon was perfectly horizontal with no tilt. We've noticed numerous times in the past that it's been more and more horizontal, but as OP stated, this is the first time it was a perfect 'smiley face' smile. I'm 60; he's 63 and we've been observing the moon for a very long time--it's only been in the past couple of years that we've seen this drift toward the horizontal. The moon has always before, in our experience, waxed and waned to the right and left, with a vertical crescent like a parenthesis ')'. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32148084 Yes it's very easy to notice which is why I don't understand all the negativity from this thread |
aliensbro (OP) User ID: 32040337 United States 01/19/2013 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Take your dick out of astro for a second and put a condom on, he's fuckin dirty. Your so far up his ass I doubt you even know what this thread is about anymore. Quoting: aliensbro Why are you lashing out at me? It's not my fault YOU are incapable of providing evidence for YOUR claims. I lash out at you because you don't even have the know how to try to prove what astro is saying, but yet your agreeing with him as if you did the research yourself. Don't be silly. I've known about Wet Moons and field rotation and such since I was a little boy. You being ignorant about how the universe works is very much your own problem. I've got nothing to proof. YOU do. YOU are the one making extraordinary counterfactual claims. YOU have failed to provide even ordinary evidence for it. If you think the only thing that affects our perception of the moon are wet moons and field rotation you have no place in this thread, as you think just as black & white as astro. |
DUCM900 User ID: 32573380 Italy 01/19/2013 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Please don't use semantics as a reasoning ploy, you know fully what I was implying. Quoting: Osmos The cognitive dissonance shown in these threads is astounding. There are plenty of genuinely real concerns that are discussed on this board, this is not one of them. I'm waiting for you --> 'SO is the Earth wobbling or something?' was my question: Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 01/19/2013 12:06 PM |
heresjohnny User ID: 31973361 Israel 01/19/2013 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Moon visibility is also affected by Parallax. It means, that in different latitudes, Moon will look differently. Parallax is counted, assuming, that Earth is round sphere. But what is strange, the same day OP posted it, here, where I am, was cloudy, but possible to see something. There was no Moon at all. And we are more or less on same latitude. Quoting: Rxel Also notice, all images of Earth from cosmos is copyrighted by NASA. Moon in his movement has many anomalies, but this is too much. Not to mention the only thing anybody wanted to do on this thread is flame me. As if I have some bias to want the moon to be off lmao.. Since the night I posted this thread the moon has been normal every night since. Like I said it's not something that happens every day, so no it's not blatantly noticeable. But there is something wrong with our moon and those with eyes have noticed. Anyone still fronting that it's normal has an aenda. Not for me. In my country it's been for 3 nights in a row, last night it was a wet moon - looked like bowel-shaped and was very low. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 31516487 United States 01/19/2013 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Carving a post into elements in an attempt to Quoting: Waterbug refute the whole, doesn't diminish the original... to someone with discernment. An observation is not debunkable.. Quoting: Waterbug In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being off, etc.. lacking access to historical data and modern measurement techniques, and the know how to use them.. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts. A true expert does not get emotional or irritated. He will state his case, provide empirical evidence, substantiation and possibly peer references.. Something is wrong when the mere statement of observation garners such vitriol and insult. The karma tells the tale. As the bard would have said.. 'The lady doth protest too much, methinks..' Point by point.. - not a conclusion.. an example to illustrate a point - the average person wouldn't know where to find nor correlate historic moon position information and data covering a span of time - who among the average Joes has access to precise time measurements and lasers,etc. to measure celestial bodies.. and the expertise to apply them in comparison to historic data that may or may not even exist? - I never said that I could or couldn't do it.. I'm talking about the average Joe. And who are the us that you speak of..? - I don't do 'parties'. - Experts don't frequent conspiracy forums to demean those who aren't specialists in their particular discipline. If they do.. I suspect they are flawed in character. ... Quoting: Dr. Astro Classifying it as "off" is a conclusion, not an observation. ... Historical data is available. ... Also available. ... Well that may well be beyond your personal capacity, but you don't speak for the rest of us. ... Here's an idea, go to an amateur astronomer star party and ask them if it's "off." Do it, I dare you. ... No true scotsman fallacy. Who cares what you or any other average joe is incapable of? Amateur astronomers are not average joes at astronomy. And yes, classifying it as off is a conclusion, not an observation. You missed the point. That was the point. Let me clarify it for you.. The average Joe is not capable of measuring these anomalies. Cart before the horse. You assume there are anomalies. You just said the average Joe is not capable of measuring, therefore the average Joe is not capable of finding out for himself if there are anomalies or not. You still don't get it, your questions contain the assumption of anomalies. All the average Joe can do is make observations. Quoting: waterbugThey depend on experts to do their jobs with integrity. If you doubt the integrity of the experts, go to a star party. You already said you won't, but that just tells me you won't put your money where your mouth is. I'll even make you an offer, come to the next Chiefland fall star party and I'll show you in person whether or not there are "anomalies" in the position of the moon. An observation by an average Joe is not debunkable. Your previous post contained a conclusion, not just an observation. An observation is an average Joe saying, "I saw the moon and it looked horizontal to me," a conclusion is saying that is "off" or an "anomaly." Average Joe doesn't know anything about field rotation or how the moon should look from a given perspective. He sees what he sees. Quoting: waterbugThat's not the problem, the problem is that he doesn't understand what he sees and draws false conclusions from it as you did in your cart before the horse hypothetical. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32586244 Croatia 01/19/2013 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not to mention the only thing anybody wanted to do on this thread is flame me. As if I have some bias to want the moon to be off lmao.. Since the night I posted this thread the moon has been normal every night since. Like I said it's not something that happens every day, so no it's not blatantly noticeable. But there is something wrong with our moon and those with eyes have noticed. Anyone still fronting that it's normal has an agenda. Quoting: aliensbro Yes, that agenda is called science. |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 31516487 United States 01/19/2013 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Carving a post into elements in an attempt to Quoting: Waterbug refute the whole, doesn't diminish the original... to someone with discernment. An observation is not debunkable.. Quoting: Waterbug In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being off, etc.. lacking access to historical data and modern measurement techniques, and the know how to use them.. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts. A true expert does not get emotional or irritated. He will state his case, provide empirical evidence, substantiation and possibly peer references.. Something is wrong when the mere statement of observation garners such vitriol and insult. The karma tells the tale. As the bard would have said.. 'The lady doth protest too much, methinks..' Point by point.. - not a conclusion.. an example to illustrate a point - the average person wouldn't know where to find nor correlate historic moon position information and data covering a span of time - who among the average Joes has access to precise time measurements and lasers,etc. to measure celestial bodies.. and the expertise to apply them in comparison to historic data that may or may not even exist? - I never said that I could or couldn't do it.. I'm talking about the average Joe. And who are the us that you speak of..? - I don't do 'parties'. - Experts don't frequent conspiracy forums to demean those who aren't specialists in their particular discipline. If they do.. I suspect they are flawed in character. An observation is not debunkable.. Quoting: Waterbug In cases such as the moon being off, the tilt being off, etc.. Classifying it as "off" is a conclusion, not an observation. lacking access to historical data Quoting: waterbugHistorical data is available. and modern measurement techniques, Quoting: waterbugAlso available. and the know how to use them.. Quoting: waterbugWell that may well be beyond your personal capacity, but you don't speak for the rest of us. the average, casual observer must depend on the experts. Quoting: waterbugHere's an idea, go to an amateur astronomer star party and ask them if it's "off." Do it, I dare you. A true expert does not get emotional or irritated. Quoting: waterbugNo true scotsman fallacy. No they don't. He's an amateur keyboard astronomer with a GLP following. In other words a fucking loser, who cites his own credibility and sits on conspiracy sites all day debunking an issue he deems "fucking stupid". Your no expert, your a fucking shill astro. His pedestal needs to be demolished. And his followers need a new leader. LMFAO! "Keyboard" astronomer eh? Ok mr keyboard warrior, you want to "destroy" my pedestal? Alright, here's a timelapse animation taken by an Italian amateur astronomer on January 7th: [link to 2.bp.blogspot.com] In front of the comet he was imaging is an asteroid, here is a closeup centered on the asteroid cropped from his image: [link to i319.photobucket.com] Now from this information alone you should easily be able to identify that asteroid. Which asteroid is it and how did you arrive at that conclusion? |
DUCM900 User ID: 32573380 Italy 01/19/2013 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm waiting for you --> 'SO is the Earth wobbling or something?' was my question. Quoting: DUCM900 SO is the Earth wobbling or something? . Yes, the Earth precesses and nutates. Neither of which remotely happen in a time span that would affect the casual observer's view of the moon. Since how in just 8 hours? PS - Hello, we are talking about the rotation of the moon in randomly days in about just 8 hours, not millennia. . Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 01/19/2013 01:25 PM |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 31516487 United States 01/19/2013 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is the moon still hanging crooked? Quoting: ehecatl Someone needs to climb up there and adjust it. Sometimes a crow comes along and bumps it, and the cord that runs behind it is not quite centered on the nail. Let's not get into the hologram aspect of the moon as I really don't want my karma to take another red hit lmao. You really care about fake GLP karma? Did you ever ask yourself wht the TrollShills in this site, have all good green "karma" level? lmao, not very difficult to get... . I've been asking myself the entirity of this thread how so many people could've been stupid enough to give astro green karma. LoL, karma jealousy. Hilarious. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 31516487 United States 01/19/2013 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm waiting for you --> 'SO is the Earth wobbling or something?' was my question. Quoting: DUCM900 SO is the Earth wobbling or something? . Yes, the Earth precesses and nutates. Neither of which remotely happen in a time span that would affect the casual observer's view of the moon. Since how in just 8 hours? PS - Hello, we are talking about the rotation of the moon in randomly days in about just 8 hours, not millennia. . That is due to field rotation, not precession or nutation. |
DUCM900 User ID: 32573380 Italy 01/19/2013 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BS. Anyway, I'm not talking with you astrodog, waiting for the other side user... - Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 01/19/2013 01:34 PM |
Osmos User ID: 13829092 United States 01/19/2013 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm waiting for you --> 'SO is the Earth wobbling or something?' was my question. Quoting: DUCM900 SO is the Earth wobbling or something? . Yes, the Earth precesses and nutates. Neither of which remotely happen in a time span that would affect the casual observer's view of the moon. Since how in just 8 hours? PS - Hello, we are talking about the rotation of the moon in randomly days in about just 8 hours, not millennia. . You only asked if the "Earth is wobbling or something" and I answered. Neither ways in which it does, would affect your view of the moon in "randomly days in just about 8 hours". You have been told time and time again in this thread, it is due only to field rotation and the observer's position on the Earth. The ancient Hawaiians described it over a millennia ago and I sincerely doubt they are a part of this grand Crooked Moon Conspiracy. |
DUCM900 User ID: 32573380 Italy 01/19/2013 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm waiting for you --> 'SO is the Earth wobbling or something?' was my question. Quoting: DUCM900 SO is the Earth wobbling or something? . Yes, the Earth precesses and nutates. Neither of which remotely happen in a time span that would affect the casual observer's view of the moon. Since how in just 8 hours? PS - Hello, we are talking about the rotation of the moon in randomly days in about just 8 hours, not millennia. . You only asked if the "Earth is wobbling or something" and I answered. Neither ways in which it does, would affect your view of the moon in "randomly days in just about 8 hours". You have been told time and time again in this thread, it is due only to field rotation Ok this seems a clone af Astrotard user. SO no way. Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 01/19/2013 01:41 PM |
Osmos User ID: 13829092 United States 01/19/2013 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Osmos Yes, the Earth precesses and nutates. Neither of which remotely happen in a time span that would affect the casual observer's view of the moon. Since how in just 8 hours? PS - Hello, we are talking about the rotation of the moon in randomly days in about just 8 hours, not millennia. . You only asked if the "Earth is wobbling or something" and I answered. Neither ways in which it does, would affect your view of the moon in "randomly days in just about 8 hours". You have been told time and time again in this thread, it is due only to field rotation Ok this seems a clone af Astrotard user. SO no way. Yes, anyone who agrees with another poster must be a sock puppet of said poster. Or, more likely, you have nothing left to add besides an ad hominem attack. |