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I found some AR 30 rd mags in stock here
$18.70

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^^^This^^^ Thanks for the link!!
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All the gun shops,, small dealers were all sold out by Christmas.. Just a sucking sound..

West Kansas is ready for battle as this is the 6 time in the past 10 years people have stocked up.. Spent every extra dollar they could afford at the time.

Just about everyone I visit with about the problems of our times am told of truck loads of ammo and guns ready to be passed out when the time comes.

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That's usually the most expensive way to buy prepper food. Why not buy an inexpensive stackable dehydrator, and then buy frozen food on sale, and dehydrate it?

See my sig for an explanation how to do it. It's probably the cheapest way.
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I've got a nice, 9-tray high quality dehydrator, along with a lot of bulk grains (plus hand-operated grain mill), do canning, etc. etc. I'm quite a bit ahead of the curve that way.

BUT. It never hurts to look at alternatives, and if it really is "cheap" from my perspective, it can't hurt to add some of it to my preps & stores.
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Sounds like a great setup. Any suggestions on where to buy?...what brand to get?...etc?...recipes?
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You mean, what brand and where to get the dehydrator and the grain mill?
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Guys it's off topic but if you'll scroll back you'll see a youtube link I gave Abi, plus see my sig for that info.
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I regularly work the gun shows in SE Arizona, selling t-shirts and survival supplies.

Over the last year, I have watched people buying ammo in amazing numbers, with each new month dwarfing the last.

This one guy in particular who does the Crossroads shows comes with a loaded semi full of various calibers, especially heavy with .223 and 7.62x39 and is leaving empty. His tables are non-stop from when the show first opens until he runs out of ammo.

Prices on certain weapons has jumped, particularly the AKs and ARs... and now even the SKS'.

All the other venders, the t-shirts, memorabilia, jewelry and leather goods are all slumping because the people are coming specifically to buy ammo, clips, and weapons.

The survival gear and LTSF (long-term storable food) is still selling pretty consistently though.

The people have sensed this coming, and I have witnessed their response.

This IS the facts.
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^^^This^^^ These buyers are voting with their wallets, not just their keyboards, on America's future.
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CLYDEX>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

OK, went to army surplus and here is the scoop...

AUGASON FARMS is the brand of food they stock...YES, it says 1 year after opening..

I bought a 1 lb 2oz can of creamy wheat cereal $5.50
shelf life=10yrs
opened 1 year...
all of the cans have the shelf and opened dates on label...none of it comes in packets...just loose in the cans...

they told me that even the meats and stews are good for 1 year after opening...I checked the labels and it said so...apparently, everything is freeze dried or dehydrated, even the meat products and people said they are really good.

also bought 1.76oz can of freeze dried strawberries $6.95

shelf=30yrs
after open=1yr

I bought the smaller cans today as we are just trying some of them..

the 5lb cans aren't bad priced, either...some of them are $13.95 for 5lb dehydrated/freeze dried and it would take a while to go thru that 5lb can..compared to fresh onions, that is a really good investment since fresh go bad in a couple weeks..unless you have a place to hang and store them and then, still a matter of a few months..

yes, if you have the time and resources, it would be better to prepare these things yourselves, but, a few cans of already prepared are nice to have, too...;)


hf

ETA>> here is the link to buy direct from them..they even carry gluten free...and that is where I am going to start buying my husbands gluten free products...way cheaper than the store..we almost cannot afford to buy gluten free food..bread is almost $7 for a small loaf at the store...crazy..

[link to www.augasonfarms.com]

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CLYDEX>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

OK, went to army surplus and here is the scoop...

AUGASON FARMS is the brand of food they stock...YES, it says 1 year after opening..

I bought a 1 lb 2oz can of creamy wheat cereal $5.50
shelf life=10yrs
opened 1 year...
all of the cans have the shelf and opened dates on label...none of it comes in packets...just loose in the cans...

they told me that even the meats and stews are good for 1 year after opening...I checked the labels and it said so...apparently, everything is freeze dried or dehydrated, even the meat products and people said they are really good.

also bought 1.76oz can of freeze dried strawberries $6.95

shelf=30yrs
after open=1yr

I bought the smaller cans today as we are just trying some of them..

the 5lb cans aren't bad priced, either...some of them are $13.95 for 5lb dehydrated/freeze dried and it would take a while to go thru that 5lb can..compared to fresh onions, that is a really good investment since fresh go bad in a couple weeks..unless you have a place to hang and store them and then, still a matter of a few months..

yes, if you have the time and resources, it would be better to prepare these things yourselves, but, a few cans of already prepared are nice to have, too...;)


hf

ETA>> here is the link to buy direct from them..they even carry gluten free...and that is where I am going to start buying my husbands gluten free products...way cheaper than the store..we almost cannot afford to buy gluten free food..bread is almost $7 for a small loaf at the store...crazy..

[link to www.augasonfarms.com]
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good info, thanks.
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Bass pro indep. Mo. Out of most ammo they had shotgun ammo and some hunting rifle ammo. Completely out of .233,7.62x39,.22,.40,.45,9mm I bought the last box of .380 hollow points.
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CLYDEX>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

OK, went to army surplus and here is the scoop...

AUGASON FARMS is the brand of food they stock...YES, it says 1 year after opening..

I bought a 1 lb 2oz can of creamy wheat cereal $5.50
shelf life=10yrs
opened 1 year...
all of the cans have the shelf and opened dates on label...none of it comes in packets...just loose in the cans...

they told me that even the meats and stews are good for 1 year after opening...I checked the labels and it said so...apparently, everything is freeze dried or dehydrated, even the meat products and people said they are really good.

also bought 1.76oz can of freeze dried strawberries $6.95

shelf=30yrs
after open=1yr

I bought the smaller cans today as we are just trying some of them..

the 5lb cans aren't bad priced, either...some of them are $13.95 for 5lb dehydrated/freeze dried and it would take a while to go thru that 5lb can..compared to fresh onions, that is a really good investment since fresh go bad in a couple weeks..unless you have a place to hang and store them and then, still a matter of a few months..

yes, if you have the time and resources, it would be better to prepare these things yourselves, but, a few cans of already prepared are nice to have, too...;)


hf

ETA>> here is the link to buy direct from them..they even carry gluten free...and that is where I am going to start buying my husbands gluten free products...way cheaper than the store..we almost cannot afford to buy gluten free food..bread is almost $7 for a small loaf at the store...crazy..

[link to www.augasonfarms.com]
 Quoting: Abi ~


Thank you very much for checking that and relaying the information. I'll be in contact with them to see if it's worth while to add to our other line.

Much appreciated!

Agreed, and to also reiterate what Don't Be Afraid said as well - if one has the time and resources, the things you prepare/ can, and store for your self is typically always better. We're in the business, however, more than 90% of our personal storage consists of foods we have prepared, the wife has canned or dehydrated, and stored away.

The wife even makes 95% or more of our child's food (1y/o), and has for the larger balance of the last year. We know exactly what's in it, what's not in it, as well as where/ how/ when/ and by who it was prepared.

Godspeed to all here
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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CLYDEX>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

OK, went to army surplus and here is the scoop...

AUGASON FARMS is the brand of food they stock...YES, it says 1 year after opening..

I bought a 1 lb 2oz can of creamy wheat cereal $5.50
shelf life=10yrs
opened 1 year...
all of the cans have the shelf and opened dates on label...none of it comes in packets...just loose in the cans...

they told me that even the meats and stews are good for 1 year after opening...I checked the labels and it said so...apparently, everything is freeze dried or dehydrated, even the meat products and people said they are really good.

also bought 1.76oz can of freeze dried strawberries $6.95

shelf=30yrs
after open=1yr

I bought the smaller cans today as we are just trying some of them..

the 5lb cans aren't bad priced, either...some of them are $13.95 for 5lb dehydrated/freeze dried and it would take a while to go thru that 5lb can..compared to fresh onions, that is a really good investment since fresh go bad in a couple weeks..unless you have a place to hang and store them and then, still a matter of a few months..

yes, if you have the time and resources, it would be better to prepare these things yourselves, but, a few cans of already prepared are nice to have, too...;)


hf

ETA>> here is the link to buy direct from them..they even carry gluten free...and that is where I am going to start buying my husbands gluten free products...way cheaper than the store..we almost cannot afford to buy gluten free food..bread is almost $7 for a small loaf at the store...crazy..

[link to www.augasonfarms.com]
 Quoting: Abi ~


Thank you very much for checking that and relaying the information. I'll be in contact with them to see if it's worth while to add to our other line.

Much appreciated!

Agreed, and to also reiterate what Don't Be Afraid said as well - if one has the time and resources, the things you prepare/ can, and store for your self is typically always better. We're in the business, however, more than 90% of our personal storage consists of foods we have prepared, the wife has canned or dehydrated, and stored away.

The wife even makes 95% or more of our child's food (1y/o), and has for the larger balance of the last year. We know exactly what's in it, what's not in it, as well as where/ how/ when/ and by who it was prepared.

Godspeed to all here
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no problem..you are welcome..;)

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I am srsly disappointed by this thread...why hasn't anyone posted this?

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Try this one too.

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CLYDEX>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

OK, went to army surplus and here is the scoop...

AUGASON FARMS is the brand of food they stock...YES, it says 1 year after opening..

I bought a 1 lb 2oz can of creamy wheat cereal $5.50
shelf life=10yrs
opened 1 year...
all of the cans have the shelf and opened dates on label...none of it comes in packets...just loose in the cans...

they told me that even the meats and stews are good for 1 year after opening...I checked the labels and it said so...apparently, everything is freeze dried or dehydrated, even the meat products and people said they are really good.

also bought 1.76oz can of freeze dried strawberries $6.95

shelf=30yrs
after open=1yr

I bought the smaller cans today as we are just trying some of them..

the 5lb cans aren't bad priced, either...some of them are $13.95 for 5lb dehydrated/freeze dried and it would take a while to go thru that 5lb can..compared to fresh onions, that is a really good investment since fresh go bad in a couple weeks..unless you have a place to hang and store them and then, still a matter of a few months..

yes, if you have the time and resources, it would be better to prepare these things yourselves, but, a few cans of already prepared are nice to have, too...;)


hf

ETA>> here is the link to buy direct from them..they even carry gluten free...and that is where I am going to start buying my husbands gluten free products...way cheaper than the store..we almost cannot afford to buy gluten free food..bread is almost $7 for a small loaf at the store...crazy..

[link to www.augasonfarms.com]
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Thanks very much for getting back to us with this!
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CLYDEX>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

OK, went to army surplus and here is the scoop...

AUGASON FARMS is the brand of food they stock...YES, it says 1 year after opening..

I bought a 1 lb 2oz can of creamy wheat cereal $5.50
shelf life=10yrs
opened 1 year...
all of the cans have the shelf and opened dates on label...none of it comes in packets...just loose in the cans...

they told me that even the meats and stews are good for 1 year after opening...I checked the labels and it said so...apparently, everything is freeze dried or dehydrated, even the meat products and people said they are really good.

also bought 1.76oz can of freeze dried strawberries $6.95

shelf=30yrs
after open=1yr

I bought the smaller cans today as we are just trying some of them..

the 5lb cans aren't bad priced, either...some of them are $13.95 for 5lb dehydrated/freeze dried and it would take a while to go thru that 5lb can..compared to fresh onions, that is a really good investment since fresh go bad in a couple weeks..unless you have a place to hang and store them and then, still a matter of a few months..

yes, if you have the time and resources, it would be better to prepare these things yourselves, but, a few cans of already prepared are nice to have, too...;)


hf

ETA>> here is the link to buy direct from them..they even carry gluten free...and that is where I am going to start buying my husbands gluten free products...way cheaper than the store..we almost cannot afford to buy gluten free food..bread is almost $7 for a small loaf at the store...crazy..

[link to www.augasonfarms.com]
 Quoting: Abi ~


Thanks very much for getting back to us with this!
 Quoting: Dr. Anomaly


You are welcome..

also wanted to let you guys know, we tried the creamy wheat today...I made it with water(instead of milk)per the directions...
I mention that because I always make cream of wheat with milk because I do not like it with water...but, wanted to see what this tasted like in a shtf scenario..so

made it with water and even nuked it...put in sugar and vanilla, like I do with the cream of wheat...it was VERY GOOD..I was surprised at how good it was being nuked and using water...

only thing I found interesting was, it takes 1/4 cup of the wheat as opposed to cream of wheat's 3 tbs for 1 serving...we are going to get a couple of big cans of this, for sure

;)

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You are welcome..

also wanted to let you guys know, we tried the creamy wheat today...I made it with water(instead of milk)per the directions...
I mention that because I always make cream of wheat with milk because I do not like it with water...but, wanted to see what this tasted like in a shtf scenario..so

made it with water and even nuked it...put in sugar and vanilla, like I do with the cream of wheat...it was VERY GOOD..I was surprised at how good it was being nuked and using water...

only thing I found interesting was, it takes 1/4 cup of the wheat as opposed to cream of wheat's 3 tbs for 1 serving...we are going to get a couple of big cans of this, for sure

;)

 Quoting: Abi ~

Abi,
If the SHTF, then eating wheat in this manner would be a very common meal, and more likely that making bread. Most people won't be able to mill grain. It takes a real craftsperson to make a Quern(millstone). I would buy a hand mill if you can. You might need it.

While anyone can theoretically use the old Native American pounding method, a method still used in Africa, it ends up with a lot of wood fragments in it. You can grind it with a flat stone and a cylindrical stone, but ends up with grit. There's another way, a simple way, which I think is also in my sig.

We don't think about these things, but the pioneers ate that grit and wood and it was hard on the enamel of their teeth. Seriously. In a SHTF scenario, a lot of that will result in worn down teeth and issues, and you have no dentist.

To make bread, well the only way towns could do that was with a reall miller, and that meant proximity to enough water power to operate it. Making a milling operation takes an engineer, carpenters, time, stone masons, powerful waterflow, etc.

So cream of wheat will be almost a daily meal, probably alternating with corn meal. Most people think bread, but unless you make pita bread, which is my suggestion after pondering this for decades, then the energy usage is very high, so you're using a ton of fuel to cook it, a ton of manual labor to pound the wheat, plus the time to let it rise.

In a SHTF scenario, then your caloric usage to perform work must be taken into account, for if not, then you could use more energy than you are making as food calories.

Another common meal will be a mush of maple syrup or similar like corn syrup (both are detailed in my sig) and acorns. That food would prevent you from starving in winter and be nourishing and contain needed fat and protein and carbs so in a way pretty ideal with some vitamins.

PS Look in the Latino section of your grocery for instant dry milk. They make a superior product than Carnation. It tastes better. If you have children, you may wish to investigate that too so you can boost that calcium. That's a critical issue to prevent ricketts.

Anyone reading my long topic on SHTF prepping, will find very complex ideas on coping. Folks things look bad. I mean it. You need to get supplies. You need to learn how you really would cope. You have to think so deeply, because the smallest series of mistakes in a SHTF scenario, and you doom your family to starvation. You must always think, "How can I do this and minimize calories expended and maximize food calories?"

Even making pita bread, you probably will be adding white clover flour to cut the wheat flour and stretch it. Since most people won't think to harvest the white clover(rich in protein and doesn't taste bad) that's abundant in meadows, that gives your family a significant boost to survival.

Also Abi, calculate the calories and nutrition of that meal. Would it be adequate under the much more difficult circumstances of a SHTF scenario? Your hubbie would be working hard, so would you. You're going to need to eat like a horse, not being very careful like you do now. You'll likely lose 20 lbs very quickly in the first month, and feel terribly weak.

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You are welcome..

also wanted to let you guys know, we tried the creamy wheat today...I made it with water(instead of milk)per the directions...
I mention that because I always make cream of wheat with milk because I do not like it with water...but, wanted to see what this tasted like in a shtf scenario..so

made it with water and even nuked it...put in sugar and vanilla, like I do with the cream of wheat...it was VERY GOOD..I was surprised at how good it was being nuked and using water...

only thing I found interesting was, it takes 1/4 cup of the wheat as opposed to cream of wheat's 3 tbs for 1 serving...we are going to get a couple of big cans of this, for sure

;)

 Quoting: Abi ~

Abi,
If the SHTF, then eating wheat in this manner would be a very common meal, and more likely that making bread. Most people won't be able to mill grain. It takes a real craftsperson to make a Quern(millstone). I would buy a hand mill if you can. You might need it.

While anyone can theoretically use the old Native American pounding method, a method still used in Africa, it ends up with a lot of wood fragments in it. You can grind it with a flat stone and a cylindrical stone, but ends up with grit. There's another way, a simple way, which I think is also in my sig.

To make bread, well the only way towns could do that was with a reall miller, and that meant proximity to enough water power to operate it. Making a milling operation takes an engineer, carpenters, time, stone masons, power waterflow, etc.

So cream of wheat will be almost a daily meal, probably alternating with corn meal. Most people think bread, but unless you make pita bread, which is my suggestion after pondering this for decades, then the energy usage is very high, so you're using a ton of fuel to cook it, a ton of manual labor to pound the wheat, plus the time to let it rise.

In a SHTF scenario, then your caloric usage to perform work must be taken into account, for if not, then you could use more energy than you are making as foodcalories.

Another common meal will be a mush of maple syrup or similar like corn syrup (both are detailed in my sig) and acorns. That food would prevent you from starving in winter and be nourishing and contain needed fat and protein and carbs so in a way pretty ideal with some vitamins.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


I researched quite a bit on how to make flour, etc and you are correct..LOTS of work/energy/time...I did learn, tho, that there are a ton of uses for cattails...almost every part of them is useful for food, flour, insulation and more.

I bought some of the survival tabs the other day, too..they have all the daily nutrients your body needs to survive...so, in moments where food is running low or non-existent you have those to keep you going..
The container has a bag inside to put the tablets in so you can use it for a canteen and carry the tablets in a sealed bag once you open it...

I try and do as much as I can myself, but some things I buy when I have a little extra, which is not often..;)

always enjoy your info...thank you for giving me new ideas and ways to achieve my goals and stay within my means....

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You are welcome..

also wanted to let you guys know, we tried the creamy wheat today...I made it with water(instead of milk)per the directions...
I mention that because I always make cream of wheat with milk because I do not like it with water...but, wanted to see what this tasted like in a shtf scenario..so

made it with water and even nuked it...put in sugar and vanilla, like I do with the cream of wheat...it was VERY GOOD..I was surprised at how good it was being nuked and using water...

only thing I found interesting was, it takes 1/4 cup of the wheat as opposed to cream of wheat's 3 tbs for 1 serving...we are going to get a couple of big cans of this, for sure

;)

 Quoting: Abi ~

Abi,
If the SHTF, then eating wheat in this manner would be a very common meal, and more likely that making bread. Most people won't be able to mill grain. It takes a real craftsperson to make a Quern(millstone). I would buy a hand mill if you can. You might need it.

While anyone can theoretically use the old Native American pounding method, a method still used in Africa, it ends up with a lot of wood fragments in it. You can grind it with a flat stone and a cylindrical stone, but ends up with grit. There's another way, a simple way, which I think is also in my sig.

To make bread, well the only way towns could do that was with a reall miller, and that meant proximity to enough water power to operate it. Making a milling operation takes an engineer, carpenters, time, stone masons, power waterflow, etc.

So cream of wheat will be almost a daily meal, probably alternating with corn meal. Most people think bread, but unless you make pita bread, which is my suggestion after pondering this for decades, then the energy usage is very high, so you're using a ton of fuel to cook it, a ton of manual labor to pound the wheat, plus the time to let it rise.

In a SHTF scenario, then your caloric usage to perform work must be taken into account, for if not, then you could use more energy than you are making as foodcalories.

Another common meal will be a mush of maple syrup or similar like corn syrup (both are detailed in my sig) and acorns. That food would prevent you from starving in winter and be nourishing and contain needed fat and protein and carbs so in a way pretty ideal with some vitamins.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


I researched quite a bit on how to make flour, etc and you are correct..LOTS of work/energy/time...I did learn, tho, that there are a ton of uses for cattails...almost every part of them is useful for food, flour, insulation and more.

I bought some of the survival tabs the other day, too..they have all the daily nutrients your body needs to survive...so, in moments where food is running low or non-existent you have those to keep you going..
The container has a bag inside to put the tablets in so you can use it for a canteen and carry the tablets in a sealed bag once you open it...

I try and do as much as I can myself, but some things I buy when I have a little extra, which is not often..;)

always enjoy your info...thank you for giving me new ideas and ways to achieve my goals and stay within my means....

 Quoting: Abi ~


I added a bit more, so re-read that. When I meet a lady prepper, I think of them as my children and can't help but worry about them.

Re the cattails. The easiest way is to let the root dry on its own and then pulverize that. I also show a video to maximize the cattail pollen using an old Native American trick and I think you'll get 10x the calories. Most people screw that up because they read a book by someone who hasn't tried that method.
I have at least two posts on those methods because a ton of your calories are coming from them. You have to harvest them well, because mice will be harvesting them too. It's THEIR food supply, so while it seems plentiful, you'll be competing with them.

They're starchy but not tasty. So drying the root, and pollenhead (that's import, the top1/3 head) you blend that to extend your flour. And remember, there's no gluten in white clover or cattail starch so you can't make bread just from them.

Pine cambium is nutrious but not tasty. I don't think you'll like it. Some people fry it, but in a SHTF scenario, where will you get the oil? You'll have some grease from animal fat, but not enough to fry things well, and will be adding animal fat to your stews to boost calories.

And yes the Executive Orders have me freaked out. I'm worried for y'all.

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You are welcome..

also wanted to let you guys know, we tried the creamy wheat today...I made it with water(instead of milk)per the directions...
I mention that because I always make cream of wheat with milk because I do not like it with water...but, wanted to see what this tasted like in a shtf scenario..so

made it with water and even nuked it...put in sugar and vanilla, like I do with the cream of wheat...it was VERY GOOD..I was surprised at how good it was being nuked and using water...

only thing I found interesting was, it takes 1/4 cup of the wheat as opposed to cream of wheat's 3 tbs for 1 serving...we are going to get a couple of big cans of this, for sure

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Abi,
If the SHTF, then eating wheat in this manner would be a very common meal, and more likely that making bread. Most people won't be able to mill grain. It takes a real craftsperson to make a Quern(millstone). I would buy a hand mill if you can. You might need it.

While anyone can theoretically use the old Native American pounding method, a method still used in Africa, it ends up with a lot of wood fragments in it. You can grind it with a flat stone and a cylindrical stone, but ends up with grit. There's another way, a simple way, which I think is also in my sig.

To make bread, well the only way towns could do that was with a reall miller, and that meant proximity to enough water power to operate it. Making a milling operation takes an engineer, carpenters, time, stone masons, power waterflow, etc.

So cream of wheat will be almost a daily meal, probably alternating with corn meal. Most people think bread, but unless you make pita bread, which is my suggestion after pondering this for decades, then the energy usage is very high, so you're using a ton of fuel to cook it, a ton of manual labor to pound the wheat, plus the time to let it rise.

In a SHTF scenario, then your caloric usage to perform work must be taken into account, for if not, then you could use more energy than you are making as foodcalories.

Another common meal will be a mush of maple syrup or similar like corn syrup (both are detailed in my sig) and acorns. That food would prevent you from starving in winter and be nourishing and contain needed fat and protein and carbs so in a way pretty ideal with some vitamins.
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I researched quite a bit on how to make flour, etc and you are correct..LOTS of work/energy/time...I did learn, tho, that there are a ton of uses for cattails...almost every part of them is useful for food, flour, insulation and more.

I bought some of the survival tabs the other day, too..they have all the daily nutrients your body needs to survive...so, in moments where food is running low or non-existent you have those to keep you going..
The container has a bag inside to put the tablets in so you can use it for a canteen and carry the tablets in a sealed bag once you open it...

I try and do as much as I can myself, but some things I buy when I have a little extra, which is not often..;)

always enjoy your info...thank you for giving me new ideas and ways to achieve my goals and stay within my means....

 Quoting: Abi ~


I added a bit more, so re-read that. When I meet a lady prepper, I think of them as my children and can't help but worry about them.

Re the cattails. The easiest way is to let the root dry on its own and then pulverize that. I also show a video to maximize the cattail pollen using an old Native American trick and I think you'll get 10x the calories. Most people screw that up because they read a book by someone who hasn't tried that method.
I have at least two posts on those methods because a ton of your calories are coming from them. You have to harvest them well, because mice will be harvesting them too. It's THEIR food supply, so while it seems plentiful, you'll be competing with them.

They're starchy but not tasty. So drying the root, and pollenhead (that's import, the top1/3 head) you blend that to extend your flour. And remember, there's no gluten in white clover or cattail starch so you can't make bread just from them.

Pine cambium is nutrious but not tasty. I don't think you'll like it. Some people fry it, but in a SHTF scenario, where will you get the oil? You'll have some grease from animal fat, but not enough to fry things well, and will be adding animal fat to your stews to boost calories.

And yes the Executive Orders have me freaked out. I'm worried for y'all.
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Read what you added to earlier post...as always, your info is spot on...

The EO's are just speeding up what was written long ago...I know how the story ends...no worries..I think you know the ending, too...;)
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