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Message Subject What's the usefulness of a gun?
Poster Handle Demosthenes77
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A gun is useful for many thing most of which are mentioned above. (1) The most important reason to have a gun is defend your country and your freedom.

(2) Right now we have a jackass of a President who fancies himself King of America. Our Constitution protects us from that by limiting the powers of each branch of the government. In the event that all of the checks and balances fail, the Second Amendment is the teeth of the Constitution.

"Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


(3) It was not written so we had guns to hunt, or for defense against criminals (although I'm glad I have them for that) but rather to guarantee the power of the government remain with the people.

Our Declaration of Independence states:

"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it"

Without weapons equal to that of the nations military, this would be nearly impossible. In my opinion this would make many current gun restrictions unconstitutional. All of our Military and Law enforcement are also sworn to protect the ideals of the constitution, so hopefully it would never come to point of our citizens having to use our guns on our own government. With that said, with President Bush's Patriot act passage (Biden actually wrote it in 1995) and Mr. Obama's willingness to ignore the Constitution and not be called out on it, who knows where this is going.
 Quoting: Demosthenes77


1. This is a vague arm waiving assertion. There is no evidence for it. How in 21st century American can you do this?

2. Has he told you this personally? What actions he has implemented cause you to think like this?

3. How does this carry over into the 21st century. Armies and governments are to powerful for a gun in the hand of a average civilian to make a difference.

Also i'm pretty sure the constitution has been ignored a lot longer than Obama. So you cant pin that only on him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19156676


While you are right on your fourth point (which i mentioned one example of), and I would love to debate the rest with an intelligent open minded person, I think that you are neither. After reading your responses to other posts you certainly are not open minded and are probably just a shill looking to stir up trouble, but you are entitled to your opinion, and if you feel that you are safe with the police protecting you and you trust your government will always have your best interest in mind, I hope you are right.
 
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