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| Sleeping Giant Haste The Day User ID: 31159620 01/14/2013 09:35 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think this is all a dog and pony show. No way anything major gets passed. Just theatrics as usual. They know how powerful the gun lobby is. "You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." ~C.S. Lewis "And Lord, haste the day when my faith shall be sight, The clouds be rolled back as a scroll; The trump shall resound, and the Lord shall descend, Even so, it is well with my soul." Thread: 37 Survival Downloads and Handbooks – Pioneering, SHTF, Engineering, Urban Gardening, Defense, and More |
| <<TIMEWATCHER>> (OP) User ID: 25511458 01/14/2013 09:40 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think this is all a dog and pony show. No way anything major gets passed. Just theatrics as usual. They know how powerful the gun lobby is. Quoting: Sleeping Giant "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."- Samuel Adams "...It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." --Samuel Adams A man may die, nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on. --John F. Kennedy The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission. --John F. Kennedy Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. --John F. Kennedy Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth. --Abraham Lincoln The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. --George Washington All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. --Albert Einstein When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on. --Thomas Jefferson “Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding.” - Albert Einstein "The best minds are not in government. If they were, business would hire them away." -Ronald Reagan "You cannot give away kindness because people keep returning it" -Indian Saying |
| <<TIMEWATCHER>> (OP) User ID: 25511458 01/14/2013 09:44 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't listen to that bullshit for one second! Quoting: ^TrInItY^ They said the same shit about Obamacare... They always put out some kind of smoke screen to settle people down before they FUCK THEM.. Seen them do it a thousand times.. "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."- Samuel Adams "...It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." --Samuel Adams A man may die, nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on. --John F. Kennedy The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission. --John F. Kennedy Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. --John F. Kennedy Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth. --Abraham Lincoln The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. --George Washington All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. --Albert Einstein When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on. --Thomas Jefferson “Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding.” - Albert Einstein "The best minds are not in government. If they were, business would hire them away." -Ronald Reagan "You cannot give away kindness because people keep returning it" -Indian Saying |
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| PIR User ID: 26687891 01/14/2013 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WASHINGTON — The powerful gun lobby is gauging enough support in Congress to block a law that would ban assault weapons, despite promises from the White House and senior lawmakers to make such a measure a reality. Quoting: <<TIMEWATCHER>> Senators plan to introduce a bill that would ban assault weapons and limit the size of ammunition magazines, like the one used in the December shooting massacre that killed 27 people, most of them children, in Newtown, Conn. Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California has promised to push for a renewal of expired legislation. The National Rifle Association has so far prevented passage of another assault weapons ban like the one that expired in 2004. But some lawmakers say the Newtown tragedy has transformed the country, and Americans are ready for stricter gun laws. President Barack Obama has made gun control a top priority. And on Tuesday Vice President Joe Biden is expected to give Obama a comprehensive package of recommendations for curbing gun violence. Still, the NRA has faith that Congress would prevent a new weapons ban. “When a president takes all the power of his office, if he’s willing to expend political capital, you don’t want to make predictions. You don’t want to bet your house on the outcome. But I would say that the likelihood is that they are not going to be able to get an assault weapons ban through this Congress,” NRA president David Keene told CNN’s “State of the Union.” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., responded with a flat out “no” when asked on CBS’ “Face the Nation” whether Congress would pass a ban on assault weapons. Democratic West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin, a lifelong member of the NRA has said everything should be on the table to prevent another tragedy like Newtown. But he assured gun owners he would fight for gun rights at the same time. “I would tell all of my friends in NRA, I will work extremely hard and I will guarantee you there will not be an encroachment on your Second Amendment rights,” Manchin said on ABC’s “This Week.” The NRA’s deep pockets help bolster allies and punish lawmakers who buck them. The group spent at least $24 million in the 2012 elections — $16.8 million through its political action committee and nearly $7.5 million through its affiliated Institute for Legislative Action. LINK: [link to www.yourhoustonnews.com] Fact 1: No assault weapon was used on that day to shoot anyone. Fact 2: The AR-15 in question was removed from the locked trunk of a car in the parking lot after the incident. Last Edited by PIR on 01/14/2013 10:33 AM PIR |
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| Saddletramp User ID: 739427 01/14/2013 10:40 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the Senate might pass something, but whatever they pass is dead in the House... Just because you're paranoid don't mean they ain't out to get ya! Paranoid?!?!? I wish! Shit son, we're hell and gone from paranoid... We don't rent pigs... Come and take it! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30890652 01/14/2013 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't listen to that bullshit for one second! Quoting: ^TrInItY^ They said the same shit about Obamacare... They always put out some kind of smoke screen to settle people down before they FUCK THEM.. Seen them do it a thousand times.. THIS. How do you think O got in the White house to begin with? HINT: Wasn't the black vote. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30890652 01/14/2013 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WASHINGTON — The powerful gun lobby is gauging enough support in Congress to block a law that would ban assault weapons, despite promises from the White House and senior lawmakers to make such a measure a reality. Quoting: <<TIMEWATCHER>> Senators plan to introduce a bill that would ban assault weapons and limit the size of ammunition magazines, like the one used in the December shooting massacre that killed 27 people, most of them children, in Newtown, Conn. Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California has promised to push for a renewal of expired legislation. The National Rifle Association has so far prevented passage of another assault weapons ban like the one that expired in 2004. But some lawmakers say the Newtown tragedy has transformed the country, and Americans are ready for stricter gun laws. President Barack Obama has made gun control a top priority. And on Tuesday Vice President Joe Biden is expected to give Obama a comprehensive package of recommendations for curbing gun violence. Still, the NRA has faith that Congress would prevent a new weapons ban. “When a president takes all the power of his office, if he’s willing to expend political capital, you don’t want to make predictions. You don’t want to bet your house on the outcome. But I would say that the likelihood is that they are not going to be able to get an assault weapons ban through this Congress,” NRA president David Keene told CNN’s “State of the Union.” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., responded with a flat out “no” when asked on CBS’ “Face the Nation” whether Congress would pass a ban on assault weapons. Democratic West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin, a lifelong member of the NRA has said everything should be on the table to prevent another tragedy like Newtown. But he assured gun owners he would fight for gun rights at the same time. “I would tell all of my friends in NRA, I will work extremely hard and I will guarantee you there will not be an encroachment on your Second Amendment rights,” Manchin said on ABC’s “This Week.” The NRA’s deep pockets help bolster allies and punish lawmakers who buck them. The group spent at least $24 million in the 2012 elections — $16.8 million through its political action committee and nearly $7.5 million through its affiliated Institute for Legislative Action. LINK: [link to www.yourhoustonnews.com] Fact 1: No assault weapon was used on that day to shoot anyone. Fact 2: The AR-15 in question was removed from the locked trunk of a car in the parking lot after the incident. You talking about Sandy Hook? There was no assault rifle used that day? |
| Sledster User ID: 982167 01/14/2013 11:59 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the Senate might pass something, but whatever they pass is dead in the House... Quoting: Saddletramp I think executive order from "Da Fuhrer" and then gun owners will be dead in their house This is what I am thinking. The House wont pass a ban on "assault" weapons, but the "O" most ceartainly will want to try an EO. It would take a couple of months to a couple of years to recind it. In the mean time, they will try to come and take them. That would be a call to arms in my book. I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already! Please ignore the German flag, I am an American. |
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| SeekWisdom User ID: 14695767 01/14/2013 12:14 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: Kentucky Sheriff to Feds: 'You Are Never Going to Pull Guns Out of Jackson County' "The lips of wisdom are closed, except to the ears of Understanding" A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy? Albert Einstein Get over here!- Scorpion |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1280257 01/14/2013 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't listen to that bullshit for one second! Quoting: ^TrInItY^ They said the same shit about Obamacare... They always put out some kind of smoke screen to settle people down before they FUCK THEM.. Seen them do it a thousand times.. ^^this!^^ They'll post a few "unbiased" polls claiming "most Americans want a ban" and the rest of the sheep will follow. A lot of politicians will come out supporting one side or the other to give it that democratic flavor and then ALL off them will vote FOR it at the last minute. There will be MANY news stories quoting "reliable sources" regarding the righteous indignation of the nonspeaking victims around the world. Minus the "insurgancy" stats of course. False Flags can and are often political in nature. They are not restricted to tragic event scenarios. Good luck with that... |
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| ClydeX User ID: 11310285 01/14/2013 02:45 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ppfffffftttttttt----- Obama said the words out of his own mouth this morning during his news conference: "An assault weapons ban with meaning" The NRA needs threats to the 2nd Amendment in general and towards weapons/ weapon owners in specific just like the DEA/ State/ and Local Law Enforcement need the Drug Cartels. Without this faceless "enemy" or "boogie man" to demonize - the money dries up. Just as importantly; they need to take advantage at every turn possible to claim "victories" for the 2nd/ gun owners when capitulation to the very rights they purport to preserve is given. Otherwise, there would have NEVER been anything even remotely close to "compromises", or the touted "victories" associated with such. The 2nd Amendment, as well as the balance of the BoR has ZERO room for compromise. ZERO. Consider for just a moment that a "compromise" had been reached regarding the 1st Amendment - specifically that regarding Freedom of the Press - since there's no way the Founding Fathers could have ever conceived the Internet, the proliferation of pornography, garbage reporting that is openly slanted towards Progressive/ Liberalism/ Marxism/ Socialism under the guise of "journalism", etc. The outrage would be deafening - specifically from every liberal, lying, US hating "journalist" and their associated rag of tripe out there. Oh wait, that only works when one refers to suppressing Christianity. What of the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th? Where is the line of compromise we should be willing and even celebratory in accepting on these Amendments? To acknowledge that there is, in fact, current heavy movement in the direction of greater restrictions/ bans/ or even talk of confiscation would be a direct admission that their rhetoric over the past 30 or so years has been just that - rhetoric, translating into monies from donations and memberships have been wasted, and the coffers would dry up so quickly that their heads would spin. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights were written in the late 18th Century. During this composition, there was great concern, concentration, debate, and ultimate decision reached on the core issues believed to A) be inalienable as granted by the Creator, and B) necessary to ensure both the construction and continued success of the Nation. It was written in plain English specifically so that even the most elementary of education would be able to understand the Spirit of the Constitution, as well as cautious enough to not leave open any windows for skewing or taking out of context. "...Shall not be infringed" fit those two(2) aforementioned requirements - it is very simple, straightforward, and closes the door immediately on any attempt to disarm or otherwise restrict the arming of the people. I, nor the balance of this nation, do not need some slick-talking Charlatan, whether elected and taking my money or an employee of a commercial organization begging for my money, to travel to Washington in order to beg for my ability to interpret this document any differently than it was written, nor to freely exercise the GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS DENOTED THEREIN. FREE MEN DON'T ASK PERMISSION Last Edited by ClydeX on 01/14/2013 02:49 PM Emergency/ Disaster Preparedness Supplies [link to mtnx.info] Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: 8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. |