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Obama: Some Gun Control Measures 'I Can Accomplish Through Executive Action - 1-14-2013

 
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To maintain the ascendancy of the Constitution over the lawmaking majority is the great and essential point on which the success of the [American] system must depend; unless that ascendancy can be preserved, the necessary consequence must be that the laws will supersede the Constitution; and, finally, the will of the Executive, by influence of its patronage, will supersede the laws ... -- John C. Calhoun (1782-1850)
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Yep.
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Personally I think the anecdotal evidence right now suggests he's coming after ammo and magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds with his forthcoming E.O...

I don't agree that ammo is not protected by the 2nd, but I think he's going to use the ruling on teflon coated bullets (and subsequently other ammo) to argue that ammo is not protected under the 2nd...
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Will they label people that post on forums such as GLP to be mentally unstable and not fit to own firearms?
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4 more very long years of nonsense, disgust and stupidity.
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Reid, Polosi and Biden. What about Obama? Oh, you could just combine the three. See! He is a god! The three in one!

Barack the nonsensical.
Barack the disgusing.
Barack the stupid.
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Personally I think the anecdotal evidence right now suggests he's coming after ammo and magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds with his forthcoming E.O...

I don't agree that ammo is not protected by the 2nd, but I think he's going to use the ruling on teflon coated bullets (and subsequently other ammo) to argue that ammo is not protected under the 2nd...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Its ALL protected. Everything from machine guns to rocket launchers. Ammo. Everything. Arms is well known to cover all of that. They simply ignore what they have public support to ignore.

Its not negotiable, folks. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is ABSOLUTE. If you don't read it that way then you can't read.

It means what it says and it says what it means. Gun Grabbers, read it and weep:

"A well regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

It flows right out of my head onto the keyboard. No lookups required.

Does it apply to the militia? Yes!

Only the militia? No. Its didn't say "the right of the militia to keep and bear arms" now did it?

Unblinkingly read it again. YOU HAVE THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO OWN AND CARRY ANYTHING YOU WANT ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. ALL RESTRICTIONS ARE UNLAWFUL. EVERY RESTRICTION IS UNLAWFUL. EVER LAW, EVER STATUTE, EVER CODE, EVERY ORDINANCE THAT REGULATES GUNS, THE CARRYING OF THEM, THE AMMO FOR THEM, THE COMPONENTS TO CREATE THE AMMO FOR THEM IS NULL AND VOID.

If you get arrested for carrying a gun, THEY ARE VIOLATING YOUR CONSTITUTIONALLY RECOGNIZED RIGHTS.

Stop gun rights subversion. Understand what the 2nd Amendment means. Read it. It means what it says and it says what it means. It also tells us what happens if they infringe. Ask the people in Chicago if they feel they have "security". Without security, there is no freedom. Without arms, there is no security.

...now do you understand why they want to take them away?
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i hope he goes crazy with it. overstep that shit get evryone all riled up
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One would hope... But it seems he can "do no wrong". I mean look at Benghazi. Look at the white house petitions that have been ignored, and now even scrubbed.

I would have thought there would have been outrage already.... But the "people" are silently enjoying their "free" phones and healthcare.


BTW Mods, Thanks for pin!
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^^^^^^^THIS

What this guy has been able to do as POTUS is unheard of. Yet everybody is too busy licking the bones thrown at them.
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WOW... the start of this speech just should go you shout out loud "Jawohl mein Fuehrer, Heil Obama"......

This is beyond ridiculous that you people continue to go along with this shit....... WHAT DOES it take before someone TAKES action......
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i hope he goes crazy with it. overstep that shit get evryone all riled up
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One would hope... But it seems he can "do no wrong". I mean look at Benghazi. Look at the white house petitions that have been ignored, and now even scrubbed.

I would have thought there would have been outrage already.... But the "people" are silently enjoying their "free" phones and healthcare.


BTW Mods, Thanks for pin!
 Quoting: Travis Bickle


^^^^^^^THIS

What this guy has been able to do as POTUS is unheard of. Yet everybody is too busy licking the bones thrown at them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14443159


...which is why they are working so hard to keep the system together. Once the "full faith and credit" is figured out to be nothing more that a pile of crap then people will be tearing flesh instead of licking bones.

Lets hope he knocks himself out. It means nothing to me. I won't comply either way. If they try to make me, I will shoot them. Traitors, the lot of them.
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WOW... the start of this speech just should go you shout out loud "Jawohl mein Fuehrer, Heil Obama"......

This is beyond ridiculous that you people continue to go along with this shit....... WHAT DOES it take before someone TAKES action......
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Unfortunately, there's no quick fix or simple solution to the problems staring us down. Too many people are brainwashed.
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Personally I think the anecdotal evidence right now suggests he's coming after ammo and magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds with his forthcoming E.O...

I don't agree that ammo is not protected by the 2nd, but I think he's going to use the ruling on teflon coated bullets (and subsequently other ammo) to argue that ammo is not protected under the 2nd...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Its ALL protected. Everything from machine guns to rocket launchers. Ammo. Everything. Arms is well known to cover all of that. They simply ignore what they have public support to ignore.

Its not negotiable, folks. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is ABSOLUTE. If you don't read it that way then you can't read.

It means what it says and it says what it means. Gun Grabbers, read it and weep:

"A well regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

It flows right out of my head onto the keyboard. No lookups required.

Does it apply to the militia? Yes!

Only the militia? No. Its didn't say "the right of the militia to keep and bear arms" now did it?

Unblinkingly read it again. YOU HAVE THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO OWN AND CARRY ANYTHING YOU WANT ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. ALL RESTRICTIONS ARE UNLAWFUL. EVERY RESTRICTION IS UNLAWFUL. EVER LAW, EVER STATUTE, EVER CODE, EVERY ORDINANCE THAT REGULATES GUNS, THE CARRYING OF THEM, THE AMMO FOR THEM, THE COMPONENTS TO CREATE THE AMMO FOR THEM IS NULL AND VOID.

If you get arrested for carrying a gun, THEY ARE VIOLATING YOUR CONSTITUTIONALLY RECOGNIZED RIGHTS.

Stop gun rights subversion. Understand what the 2nd Amendment means. Read it. It means what it says and it says what it means. It also tells us what happens if they infringe. Ask the people in Chicago if they feel they have "security". Without security, there is no freedom. Without arms, there is no security.

...now do you understand why they want to take them away?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4424740




agree w/ you.....no supreme ruling required on this discussion. There's nothing confusing about the 'meaning' of the 2nd ammendment.

'cannot be infringed' pretty much says everything that needs to be said. All of this judicial volleyball is just smoke & mirrors..... lolsign


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Simply amazing ego.
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@ 00:50

I wonder if killing innocent people day-in and out via drones in several countries we're not formally at war with constitutes as 'guns in the hands' of criminals
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Good thing for Obama's agenda that Sandy Hook was post election
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Simply amazing ego.
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@ 00:50

I wonder if killing innocent people day-in and out via drones in several countries we're not formally at war with constitutes as 'guns in the hands' of criminals
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32203849


In the four years this piece of shit has been president, I have probably listened to him talk for about ten minutes. All he does is lie, except when he says he's going to use his "authority" to overule congress.
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Personally I think the anecdotal evidence right now suggests he's coming after ammo and magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds with his forthcoming E.O...

I don't agree that ammo is not protected by the 2nd, but I think he's going to use the ruling on teflon coated bullets (and subsequently other ammo) to argue that ammo is not protected under the 2nd...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Its ALL protected. Everything from machine guns to rocket launchers. Ammo. Everything. Arms is well known to cover all of that. They simply ignore what they have public support to ignore.

Its not negotiable, folks. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is ABSOLUTE. If you don't read it that way then you can't read.

It means what it says and it says what it means. Gun Grabbers, read it and weep:

"A well regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

It flows right out of my head onto the keyboard. No lookups required.

Does it apply to the militia? Yes!

Only the militia? No. Its didn't say "the right of the militia to keep and bear arms" now did it?

Unblinkingly read it again. YOU HAVE THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO OWN AND CARRY ANYTHING YOU WANT ANYTIME, ANYWHERE. ALL RESTRICTIONS ARE UNLAWFUL. EVERY RESTRICTION IS UNLAWFUL. EVER LAW, EVER STATUTE, EVER CODE, EVERY ORDINANCE THAT REGULATES GUNS, THE CARRYING OF THEM, THE AMMO FOR THEM, THE COMPONENTS TO CREATE THE AMMO FOR THEM IS NULL AND VOID.

If you get arrested for carrying a gun, THEY ARE VIOLATING YOUR CONSTITUTIONALLY RECOGNIZED RIGHTS.

Stop gun rights subversion. Understand what the 2nd Amendment means. Read it. It means what it says and it says what it means. It also tells us what happens if they infringe. Ask the people in Chicago if they feel they have "security". Without security, there is no freedom. Without arms, there is no security.

...now do you understand why they want to take them away?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4424740


I would agree in principal, ammo SHOULD be considered "Arms" under the 2nd...unfortunately with the banning of "Cop Killer" (Teflon Coated bullets which were originally made for police) and other bullets, the courts have set the precedent that ammo is not protected under the 2nd...

You can argue the symantics of it all day, and I would be on your side, but Obama wouldn't be on our side, so we better watch out for this...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 01/15/2013 01:03 AM
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