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IssueX

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Im thinking of moving to the U.S because im attracted to the women.Which is the best city to live in?
 Quoting: Brain Fog Fred


Dallas has some of the most beautiful, fit women, if appearance alone matters to you.

New York women are smart and stylish

Miami has some beautiful latinas, if that is your taste - Venezuelan women go to great lengths to look beautiful and sexy

depends on your taste....
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Im thinking of moving to the U.S because im attracted to the women.Which is the best city to live in?
 Quoting: Brain Fog Fred


A lot would depend on your age and what you did for work. I would recommend staying out of the major cities if you could. You will have a better experience in a smaller town. The Northeast is great with so much to see and do within a days drive. I also like Colorado, Florida, and the northwest. But take your pick, Its really still a great place to live just about everywhere. And our women are as beautiful as you see on TV everywhere, and they love dudes with accents... Get here quick, If you cant tell it might not be this nice for long...
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New Zealand is a very clean, green and beautiful country. It has always been a world leader in anything to do with environment issues and is Nuclear Free.

The people are open and relatively low key. Many people have said that kiwis are very similar to Canadian's.

There is a growing creative and cultural energy in NZ and when I go back I always find it refreshing. Of course "The Lord of the Rings" Trilogy has meant that a lot of resources are now available for film makers there. I think I even heard that James Cameron is going to move there to live.

Kiwi's are pretty tolerant people and admire hard work so if you are happy to work hard you will soon be accepted.

There is sometimes a general view that Americans can be a bit loud and insular (eg, think kiwis are all running around in grass skirts, etc) but mainly Kiwis take people as they come.

If you love mountains, forests, bush walking, etc, you will be in absolute heaven!

Where I was brought up is very rural and as a young person I felt like I wanted to see the world and it was all too boring. Someone mentioned that the cost of living is a bit higher which is true. Compared to Australia the wages are a bit lower too.

As suggested, take a little trip and see how you like it. Make sure you include the South Island in the trip as this is the most beautiful and scenic if you love Mountains.










I am a Kiwi who lived in the UK for years and now reside in Australia.

If you are determined and willing to take the risk you can survive anywhere.

New Zealand is beautiful but because it is a smaller country there are not the opportunities that bigger countries provide.

Save hard and go for a visit to them all and see which one feels good.

I firmly believe that if you have a good work ethic and are prepared to make some sacrifice along the way you can end up living anywhere.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29124083


Tell me about New Zealand, I am a huge outdoor kinda guy and that place looks like the most beautiful country on the planet from what i can tell. How are jobs? how hard is it getting a job as an ex american? are we liked or at least tolerated by the Kiwi's ?
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Where can you go thats much better than the US at the present time? Argentina is up and coming but still has high unemployment. Europe is in the midst of a financial meltdown (and frankly all the overly religious muslims I hear about there don't seem real inviting). Obviously 3rd world countries are out and every country in central and south america (with exception to argentina) and every country in north africa. China would be interesting only they have a horrible unemployment rate and they make little to work in factories so it would depend on your skill set. Japan does not take outsiders unless your a nuclear scientist. Australia and Canada I put on par with america and would not be worth the time and effort to move. I do think New Zealand has some upside, but at the moment the global economy is hurting it too. I guess the point I'm making is that its bad all over the world right now. The future is bleak at best. Guess we just have to ride it out and be brave. Who knows maybe a change in events will get things straightened out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11922974

There may be no places that are better than America was. But that's changing now. With the cornerstone of it's Bill of Rights on the Executioner's block, America is entering very perilous times. And with Herr Diktator-in-Chief pushing anti-American edicts and legislation so hard and so fast, the death throes of the now bankrupt America will only accelerate. TPTB destroyed what was America, now it's just a matter of the Sh** catching up with The Fan.

So now it's time to find a quick exit strategy when you come to realize that you are not leaving your country, but rather your country (gov't) has left you! Don't be the last one off the ship!
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IssueX nailed it.

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Dual citizenship FTW!
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Im thinking of moving to the U.S because im attracted to the women.Which is the best city to live in?
 Quoting: Brain Fog Fred


Dallas has some of the most beautiful, fit women, if appearance alone matters to you.

New York women are smart and stylish

Miami has some beautiful latinas, if that is your taste - Venezuelan women go to great lengths to look beautiful and sexy

depends on your taste....
 Quoting: IssueX


I live in Dallas and I agree!
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New Zealand is a very clean, green and beautiful country. It has always been a world leader in anything to do with environment issues and is Nuclear Free.

The people are open and relatively low key. Many people have said that kiwis are very similar to Canadian's.

There is a growing creative and cultural energy in NZ and when I go back I always find it refreshing. Of course "The Lord of the Rings" Trilogy has meant that a lot of resources are now available for film makers there. I think I even heard that James Cameron is going to move there to live.

Kiwi's are pretty tolerant people and admire hard work so if you are happy to work hard you will soon be accepted.

There is sometimes a general view that Americans can be a bit loud and insular (eg, think kiwis are all running around in grass skirts, etc) but mainly Kiwis take people as they come.

If you love mountains, forests, bush walking, etc, you will be in absolute heaven!

Where I was brought up is very rural and as a young person I felt like I wanted to see the world and it was all too boring. Someone mentioned that the cost of living is a bit higher which is true. Compared to Australia the wages are a bit lower too.

As suggested, take a little trip and see how you like it. Make sure you include the South Island in the trip as this is the most beautiful and scenic if you love Mountains.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32247363


Wow i think i am sold. After this little revolution were having is over i think i am going to take a much needed long vacation down there, maybe stay for awhile. thanks for the post.
"Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll
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Only thing worse than sheep are retarded sheep.

Where on Earth could it possibly be better? Europe and Asia are per-armageddon, already raped and pillaged of all hope for resistance.

Once we (the Americans) run the corrupt from our lands, (in America) where do you think they will set up shop? In Europe and Asia.

Hope they enjoy not having their guns then. Especially once the corrupt tell them they need to join the UN army to come back here and fight the Americans. Either that or be beheaded, and loose any rights to eat.
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I am native american and this is my home!But now days it sure dont seem like it.When i leave the house its not car jackers i worry about.Its not muggers,,it is the police! I have asked a lot of people what their number one fear is when going to town or traveling and everyone i have asked says the same thing,,the cops!As much as i love my country,,if i had the means i would pack up and go to a south american country.I know a lot of those places have their fair share of problems too but at this point im ready to put on a loin cloth and live in the jungle if thats what it takes to find a little comfort and peace.
 Quoting: FEDup 31426933


I am Cherokee. Our forefathers taking the pecefull path years ago was a BIG mistake. They should have killed every person coming off the ships. Man, Woman, and Child.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19004483

Just so they could continue their war of conquest with the Creeks, Kusatees, and Uchees? Yes, the Cherokees were the Conquistadores of their day.

And after their chiefs sold their lands to the English settlers, they then broke their agreements and made war against those English who purchased the lands for large amounts money, guns, furs, etc.

Everybody made war and conquest with each other back then. It was an ugly history for everyone with a worldview of conquest, Cherokees, English and American settlers included.

And you can blame Pres. Andrew jackson and his Congress for the Trail of Tears. George Washington was fine with everyone staying in their homelands. Jefferson and Lincoln supported the Indians' right to stay too. But Jackson and his Congress passed the bill to pressure them out after overcoming great opposition in Congress. It was a tragedy for all.
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Im thinking of moving to the U.S because im attracted to the women.Which is the best city to live in?
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rofl
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well there I am, contrarian as usual

I'm the one who left in 2002, coming back now

I've always been ahead of the curve

You gotta get busy living, or busy dying, and every place is a prison of sorts

You have to do what you came to do, not cling to a petty illusion of safety

The US is better than people realize...that's exactly why there is so much effort being made to demoralize and diminish the hopes of people here

If the US population weren't a threat, why would they bother?

Turn off the propaganda TV and look around you and realize that heaven is available here and now

Eh?
 Quoting: IssueX

I love this quote from Chinese dissident Ai Weiwei:


Thread: A Dissident's Tips for Survival

I love you IssueX. Godspeed.
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I am native american and this is my home!But now days it sure dont seem like it.When i leave the house its not car jackers i worry about.Its not muggers,,it is the police! I have asked a lot of people what their number one fear is when going to town or traveling and everyone i have asked says the same thing,,the cops!As much as i love my country,,if i had the means i would pack up and go to a south american country.I know a lot of those places have their fair share of problems too but at this point im ready to put on a loin cloth and live in the jungle if thats what it takes to find a little comfort and peace.
 Quoting: FEDup 31426933


I am Cherokee. Our forefathers taking the pecefull path years ago was a BIG mistake. They should have killed every person coming off the ships. Man, Woman, and Child.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19004483


Hind sight is 20/20
 Quoting: Desert Fox


One day we will wake up and see big mushroom clouds in the sky, and all will be made right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19004483

And the fallout will be carried by the wind spirit and will irradiate your lands, and kill your livestock & children with radiation poisoning, as you come to realize that all your fates are intertwined afterall.
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I am living close to the beach, close to the jungle, far from Manila, far from people, I eat my own coconuts, my own papayas, my own bananas, my own chicken...
I have no vehicle, only a scooter.
I am 100% on solar.
Satellite Internet and my nice north american style home (cost $25k) are the only luxuries.
My monthly cost of living is below $1k but I spend more by helping others.
I'll never go back to "civilisation" again.
PhilippinoBob
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Left it, would love to go back if the people ever wake up.

Don't see it happening any time soon tho.

The psy-ops are too many and too powerful.

Like right now they are saying with one hand that they are trying to take your guns, while they are really picking your wallets out of your pockets with the other hand.

Typical magicians trick, but very few recognize it for what it is.

Hope y'all wake up soon tho, I'd love to come back and hang in the ole hood.

hf
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Im thinking of moving to the U.S because im attracted to the women.Which is the best city to live in?
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rofl
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Any of them.


Take them all.
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Im thinking of moving to the U.S because im attracted to the women.Which is the best city to live in?
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Depends on what flavor you want?

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 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence

Hmmm. They say everyone has a line in the sand.
It seems these people prefer that sand to
be in another country. What happens
when they run out of sand? Gonna
move to the moon? LOL What a shame to abandon
this beautiful land of ours to these criminals
and thugs.You can run but you cannot hide.
When freedom dies here...it dies everywhere.
I think if you check any free country you
would like to move to (and would let you)
...you will find it's freedom propped up by americas money and might.
I was watching Dr.Who the other night and the
character said "President Obama is going to fix the
economy." He was happy to be saved by the POTUS.
Funny thing was...He was British living in England.
And for those of you who know Dr.Who...No it wasnt in
some weird future it was in the present.
flag waver
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17898558

Yes, the land is beautiful, but when a nation falls to oppressors, that changes the reality of the situation on the ground. Beauty cannot overcome tyranny. Times, they are a change'in, unfortunately. Look at how beautiful Cuba and Haiti's natural settings are? Despite that, they have their issues that make them not-so-friendly places to live.



The criminals and thugs have taken over in the US, UK & EU. They now make the rules; their rules. And they control the police and military. What do you control?

Freedom does an can exist outside of the USA. No place is truly free, but some places fare better than others. And soon, it'll be easy to find palces with freedom greater than the new USSA. It's only a short matter of time before this happens.

And Amerikan money does not control all of the world. There's a fundamental shift in the works right now, where money and influence is shifting away from the west and into the east. I think the BRICs will resist the NWO. I think the future will see their influence gaining as the USSA's diminishes. While the BRICs are not bastions of freedom, I think they will outlast the west when it finally collapses under the weight of it's own bancruptcy, mismanagement and tyranny.

Freedom will be what you can make of it while keeping your head down in remote areas away from the NWO Empire and big gov'ts in general, I think.
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I am living close to the beach, close to the jungle, far from Manila, far from people, I eat my own coconuts, my own papayas, my own bananas, my own chicken...
I have no vehicle, only a scooter.
I am 100% on solar.
Satellite Internet and my nice north american style home (cost $25k) are the only luxuries.
My monthly cost of living is below $1k but I spend more by helping others.
I'll never go back to "civilisation" again.
 Quoting: PhilippinoBob


I have a friend there & he loves it too! Not at all interested in coming back. Every few years he'll say his coming back to visit & never does!
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Some of us have no choice but to stay.
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[link to www.escapeartist.com]
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I'm in process of moving to gaunteg south africa. so far its great,
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Good luck, chap!

The political and cultural turmoil there scares me.

I've heard first-hand: "What happens in the Bush, stays in the Bush."

Talk about the 'Wild West', so to speak.

That place could easily turn into a war zone and/or another Rhodesia/Zimbabwe.

Good hunting nearby, though!
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I'd say if you really were planning on fleeing your country (US or wherever) if you don't know where to go, save up first and go on a tour of the countries that sound promising. Yeah, it still wouldn't be THAT informative since most countries have a range of vast diversity. i.e.. one part may be a shithole while another part may be paradise.
 Quoting: Master X

You are spot on with your advice.

I did, and am richer for it.

Plus it gives you options. If you embrace a nomadic mindset, if one place gets too 'hot', you know you have other places to go as you've been there and can set up options in advance.

Knowing you have options can give you a sense of freedom. Otherwise, you invariably come to feel trapped and possibly even hopeless.

Between feeling trapped and feeling free, I'll choose free.
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I left and have returned.

I am Hell Revisited for the bastard who are destroying mankind's greatest achievement: America.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32212799


here as well

I am their worst nightmare

an awakened inner party libtard who emerged from the belly of the beast. I know their tricks, I know where they hide, I have zero fear of leaving this plane and I have nothing to lose

doesn't take many of us

and sometimes, one is safest in the eye of the storm, although safety is not what I seek

peace
 Quoting: IssueX


What made you come back?
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


you move to another country, even one as similar to ours as Canada, and you realize how American you are, how much the story of the revolution and founding fathers resonates in your very outlook

you may not think so , but wait until you live in a place where people never question their government, or are afraid to speak their opinions out loud, or take for granted 300 years of monarchy and corruption

you begin to realize what made the US different is somewhere in your very thought process, and it doesn't matter if you are D or R, not if you really resonated with it

and then you realize life is short, and we all come here for a purpose, maybe to make a stand, and maybe its a well known stand or maybe somerthing that never even makes a line of type, but it's your mission, and your spirit knows it

and sure, you could die safe in someone else's home town, someone else's land, always an outsider, always a refugee of sorts...or you could go home and help draw that human line in the sand

that's me, anyway, and it took me over a decade of hard contemplation and thinking to come to this conclusion, and I know it isn't for everyone, but no one who ever got something worthwhile ever did it without risk or losing a pint of blood or two along the way

best of luck to you, and may fair winds be at your back
 Quoting: IssueX


clappa
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I left and have returned.

I am Hell Revisited for the bastard who are destroying mankind's greatest achievement: America.
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here as well

I am their worst nightmare

an awakened inner party libtard who emerged from the belly of the beast. I know their tricks, I know where they hide, I have zero fear of leaving this plane and I have nothing to lose

doesn't take many of us

and sometimes, one is safest in the eye of the storm, although safety is not what I seek

peace
 Quoting: IssueX


What made you come back?
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


you move to another country, even one as similar to ours as Canada, and you realize how American you are, how much the story of the revolution and founding fathers resonates in your very outlook

you may not think so , but wait until you live in a place where people never question their government, or are afraid to speak their opinions out loud, or take for granted 300 years of monarchy and corruption

you begin to realize what made the US different is somewhere in your very thought process, and it doesn't matter if you are D or R, not if you really resonated with it

and then you realize life is short, and we all come here for a purpose, maybe to make a stand, and maybe its a well known stand or maybe somerthing that never even makes a line of type, but it's your mission, and your spirit knows it

and sure, you could die safe in someone else's home town, someone else's land, always an outsider, always a refugee of sorts...or you could go home and help draw that human line in the sand

that's me, anyway, and it took me over a decade of hard contemplation and thinking to come to this conclusion, and I know it isn't for everyone, but no one who ever got something worthwhile ever did it without risk or losing a pint of blood or two along the way

best of luck to you, and may fair winds be at your back
 Quoting: IssueX


One of the best GLP posts I've ever read. First three paragraphs are kick-ass resonant and, heck, publishable prose too.
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Only thing worse than sheep are retarded sheep.

Where on Earth could it possibly be better? Europe and Asia are per-armageddon, already raped and pillaged of all hope for resistance.

Once we (the Americans) run the corrupt from our lands, (in America) where do you think they will set up shop? In Europe and Asia.

Hope they enjoy not having their guns then. Especially once the corrupt tell them they need to join the UN army to come back here and fight the Americans. Either that or be beheaded, and loose any rights to eat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1012969

Yours is an ambitious fantasy, I'll give you that!

I wish Americans would throw off their shackles, but they've been wearing them for so long now that they don't even remember that they exist anymore.

Start with the FedRes Bank Corporation, then get back with us after you shut them down.

I'll be waiting right here, promise.
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I am living close to the beach, close to the jungle, far from Manila, far from people, I eat my own coconuts, my own papayas, my own bananas, my own chicken...
I have no vehicle, only a scooter.
I am 100% on solar.
Satellite Internet and my nice north american style home (cost $25k) are the only luxuries.
My monthly cost of living is below $1k but I spend more by helping others.
I'll never go back to "civilisation" again.
 Quoting: PhilippinoBob

Good for you!
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back to ths caves of europe! No multiculturalism in those dank caves. There ya go!
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I left and have returned.

I am Hell Revisited for the bastard who are destroying mankind's greatest achievement: America.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32212799


here as well

I am their worst nightmare

an awakened inner party libtard who emerged from the belly of the beast. I know their tricks, I know where they hide, I have zero fear of leaving this plane and I have nothing to lose

doesn't take many of us

and sometimes, one is safest in the eye of the storm, although safety is not what I seek

peace
 Quoting: IssueX


What made you come back?
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


you move to another country, even one as similar to ours as Canada, and you realize how American you are, how much the story of the revolution and founding fathers resonates in your very outlook

you may not think so , but wait until you live in a place where people never question their government, or are afraid to speak their opinions out loud, or take for granted 300 years of monarchy and corruption

you begin to realize what made the US different is somewhere in your very thought process, and it doesn't matter if you are D or R, not if you really resonated with it

and then you realize life is short, and we all come here for a purpose, maybe to make a stand, and maybe its a well known stand or maybe somerthing that never even makes a line of type, but it's your mission, and your spirit knows it

and sure, you could die safe in someone else's home town, someone else's land, always an outsider, always a refugee of sorts...or you could go home and help draw that human line in the sand

that's me, anyway, and it took me over a decade of hard contemplation and thinking to come to this conclusion, and I know it isn't for everyone, but no one who ever got something worthwhile ever did it without risk or losing a pint of blood or two along the way

best of luck to you, and may fair winds be at your back
 Quoting: IssueX


Goofy Thum

Very Well said!!
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well there I am, contrarian as usual

I'm the one who left in 2002, coming back now

I've always been ahead of the curve

You gotta get busy living, or busy dying, and every place is a prison of sorts

You have to do what you came to do, not cling to a petty illusion of safety

The US is better than people realize...that's exactly why there is so much effort being made to demoralize and diminish the hopes of people here

If the US population weren't a threat, why would they bother?

Turn off the propaganda TV and look around you and realize that heaven is available here and now

Eh?
 Quoting: IssueX


heaven? It's all about to erupt!

LOL

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