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:blackcat: In other words they are dumb sheeple like most of the rest of us.sheep
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JudethZ, forgive me for off-topic:

but you are one weird (I presume) female.

What's with "cutesy" creepy pictures?
 Quoting: ASV 11868823


one of the abiding mysteries of glp. also, the handle is creepy, doncha think?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


I dunno, I may be way out of line but I am just getting the
"Mid-aged Pedophile" vibe from JudethZ. A weirdo, to be sure.

Then again, it's the Internet. Anything is possible. WHich is why other than occasional Israel-related post on GLP, I've pretty much weaned myself off of it (recreationally speakking, not studies- or profession-related, of course).

Anyway. Only 5 days until the Israeli elections, playa. Obama-Soros-Livni-Don Altobello-Yachimovich-Diskin are putting MAD rush on to try to sabotage Bibi. They even had that prick Yehuda Weinstein cook up a "December Suprise" by charging Lieberman right before the elections, LOL.

Ironically, it may be Bibi's protege, the more Right-wing Naftali Bennett, who ends up hurting him in the end...

One thing to be grateful for: unlike the US elections where Soros boys in Spain clearly stole Florida if not Ohio... Israeli vote-tallying may indeed be be fairly on the up-and-up. Which bodes well for right-wing.

Altough I am sure Israel's SLG (Shadow Leftist Government like courts, Justice Dep, unions, etc) will try to pull something off at last minute.

What's Jimmy Carter up to these days? Isn't it about time to, um, accidentally let it slip that Israeli electoral system if Apartheid, too? :)
 Quoting: Ashtons succulent V 10514970


His latest thing is dissing the Southern Baptist Convention, I believe. I have no dog in that race, so I'm all for it if it keeps him out of world affairs.
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:blackcat: In other words they are dumb sheeple like most of the rest of us.sheep
 Quoting: Judethz


JudethZ, forgive me for off-topic:

but you are one weird (I presume) female.

What's with "cutesy" creepy pictures?
 Quoting: ASV 11868823


one of the abiding mysteries of glp. also, the handle is creepy, doncha think?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


I dunno, I may be way out of line but I am just getting the
"Mid-aged Pedophile" vibe from JudethZ. A weirdo, to be sure.

Then again, it's the Internet. Anything is possible. WHich is why other than occasional Israel-related post on GLP, I've pretty much weaned myself off of it (recreationally speakking, not studies- or profession-related, of course).

Anyway. Only 5 days until the Israeli elections, playa. Obama-Soros-Livni-Don Altobello-Yachimovich-Diskin are putting MAD rush on to try to sabotage Bibi. They even had that prick Yehuda Weinstein cook up a "December Suprise" by charging Lieberman right before the elections, LOL.

Ironically, it may be Bibi's protege, the more Right-wing Naftali Bennett, who ends up hurting him in the end...

One thing to be grateful for: unlike the US elections where Soros boys in Spain clearly stole Florida if not Ohio... Israeli vote-tallying may indeed be be fairly on the up-and-up. Which bodes well for right-wing.

Altough I am sure Israel's SLG (Shadow Leftist Government like courts, Justice Dep, unions, etc) will try to pull something off at last minute.

What's Jimmy Carter up to these days? Isn't it about time to, um, accidentally let it slip that Israeli electoral system if Apartheid, too? :)
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I predict Bennett's party gets no more than 8 mandates, That's my ONLY prediction.
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:blackcat: In other words they are dumb sheeple like most of the rest of us.sheep
 Quoting: Judethz


JudethZ, forgive me for off-topic:

but you are one weird (I presume) female.

What's with "cutesy" creepy pictures?
 Quoting: ASV 11868823


one of the abiding mysteries of glp. also, the handle is creepy, doncha think?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


I dunno, I may be way out of line but I am just getting the
"Mid-aged Pedophile" vibe from JudethZ. A weirdo, to be sure.



 Quoting: Ashtons succulent V 10514970


you're not the only one. but the pictures are always of sexually mature (though very young) women, so I think "middle-aged creepoid" is more like it.
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JudethZ, forgive me for off-topic:

but you are one weird (I presume) female.

What's with "cutesy" creepy pictures?
 Quoting: ASV 11868823


one of the abiding mysteries of glp. also, the handle is creepy, doncha think?
 Quoting: Swinburnian


I dunno, I may be way out of line but I am just getting the
"Mid-aged Pedophile" vibe from JudethZ. A weirdo, to be sure.

Then again, it's the Internet. Anything is possible. WHich is why other than occasional Israel-related post on GLP, I've pretty much weaned myself off of it (recreationally speakking, not studies- or profession-related, of course).

Anyway. Only 5 days until the Israeli elections, playa. Obama-Soros-Livni-Don Altobello-Yachimovich-Diskin are putting MAD rush on to try to sabotage Bibi. They even had that prick Yehuda Weinstein cook up a "December Suprise" by charging Lieberman right before the elections, LOL.

Ironically, it may be Bibi's protege, the more Right-wing Naftali Bennett, who ends up hurting him in the end...

One thing to be grateful for: unlike the US elections where Soros boys in Spain clearly stole Florida if not Ohio... Israeli vote-tallying may indeed be be fairly on the up-and-up. Which bodes well for right-wing.

Altough I am sure Israel's SLG (Shadow Leftist Government like courts, Justice Dep, unions, etc) will try to pull something off at last minute.

What's Jimmy Carter up to these days? Isn't it about time to, um, accidentally let it slip that Israeli electoral system if Apartheid, too? :)
 Quoting: Ashtons succulent V 10514970


I predict Bennett's party gets no more than 8 mandates, That's my ONLY prediction.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


I hope you're wrong.

Currently his party only has 3 mandates, so 8 would actually be an improvement... but BhY has been polling anywhere from 12 to 18 seats. I think it would be GREAT if he could beat Avoda; it would be a big, much-needed collective "Fuck You and your Tricks, son!" from Israeli young people to Obama, EU and Arab world, of course.

The more I am hearing about Naftali Bennett, the MORE I like him.

1) He's NOT willing to sell the counry out to the lowest bidder, as it were --- or try to get his name into history books at all costs (I am looking at you post-Likud Ariel Sharon, Don Altobello, Olmert, Tsipora...).

2) He is NOT the Haredi asshole from Shas who don't wanna work or serve in the arm or even do a national service. Zionist-Nationalists are not only keeping the whole "unique Jewish history & spirit" thing alive, but also contribute increasingly more in the job sector and have the highest combat-recruitment in recent years. If anything, Bennett can be cryptonite counter to the crooks like Ariyeh Deri.

3) The guy has youth, charsima and fine English skills. Well-educated and served as duputy-commander in Sayeret Matkal. Gee, would you rather have him or, say, a hatchet-faced plastic surgery maven like Shelley Yachimovich whose entire life has been sitting behind a desk and serving as Sushi-Parlor Commando... representing Israel? lulz
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JudethZ, forgive me for off-topic:

but you are one weird (I presume) female.

What's with "cutesy" creepy pictures?
 Quoting: ASV 11868823


one of the abiding mysteries of glp. also, the handle is creepy, doncha think?
 Quoting: Swinburnian



I dunno, I may be way out of line but I am just getting the
"Mid-aged Pedophile" vibe from JudethZ. A weirdo, to be sure.



 Quoting: Ashtons succulent V 10514970


you're not the only one. but the pictures are always of sexually mature (though very young) women, so I think "middle-aged creepoid" is more like it.
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So we're talking, um, "North-American Marlon-Brando Look-Alike Association"... here?


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JudethZ, forgive me for off-topic:

but you are one weird (I presume) female.

What's with "cutesy" creepy pictures?
 Quoting: ASV 11868823


one of the abiding mysteries of glp. also, the handle is creepy, doncha think?
 Quoting: Swinburnian



I dunno, I may be way out of line but I am just getting the
"Mid-aged Pedophile" vibe from JudethZ. A weirdo, to be sure.

Then again, it's the Internet. Anything is possible. WHich is why other than occasional Israel-related post on GLP, I've pretty much weaned myself off of it (recreationally speakking, not studies- or profession-related, of course).

Anyway. Only 5 days until the Israeli elections, playa. Obama-Soros-Livni-Don Altobello-Yachimovich-Diskin are putting MAD rush on to try to sabotage Bibi. They even had that prick Yehuda Weinstein cook up a "December Suprise" by charging Lieberman right before the elections, LOL.

Ironically, it may be Bibi's protege, the more Right-wing Naftali Bennett, who ends up hurting him in the end...

One thing to be grateful for: unlike the US elections where Soros boys in Spain clearly stole Florida if not Ohio... Israeli vote-tallying may indeed be be fairly on the up-and-up. Which bodes well for right-wing.

Altough I am sure Israel's SLG (Shadow Leftist Government like courts, Justice Dep, unions, etc) will try to pull something off at last minute.

What's Jimmy Carter up to these days? Isn't it about time to, um, accidentally let it slip that Israeli electoral system if Apartheid, too? :)
 Quoting: Ashtons succulent V 10514970


His latest thing is dissing the Southern Baptist Convention, I believe. I have no dog in that race, so I'm all for it if it keeps him out of world affairs.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Hey I noticed TexasGirl4Truth was back? Her Gaia, you, Gerry52, Darby Doom and a few others were my favorite peeps that made me post here.

Did you give them my best?
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what makes you think he cares
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Well, Bibi certainly doesn't care about what some Argentinian thinks.

Afterall, you guys are known for:

1) debt-default
2) harboring Nazi war-criminals.
3) Lionel Messi -- and even he chooses to play in Spain, not Argentina.
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Well, Bibi certainly doesn't care about what some Argentinian thinks.

Afterall, you guys are known for:

1) debt-default
2) harboring Nazi war-criminals.
3) Lionel Messi -- and even he chooses to play in Spain, not Argentina.
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like a thief in the night
good luck

theres also a saying in my country that applies here
no escupas para arriba
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Well, Bibi certainly doesn't care about what some Argentinian thinks.

Afterall, you guys are known for:

1) debt-default
2) harboring Nazi war-criminals.
3) Lionel Messi -- and even he chooses to play in Spain, not Argentina.
 Quoting: ASV 10514970


like a thief in the night
good luck

theres also a saying in my country that applies here
no escupas para arriba
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32475456


And I am telling you we don't care about your country or your sayings.
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Re: Most Israelis disagree with Netanyahu on Iran: Poll
Despite the rhetoric by Israeli Premier Benjamin Netanyahu to sensationalize the Western dispute over Iran’s nuclear energy program, a recent survey shows that the majority of Israelis believe the issue of economy, not Iran, is the most critical issue they face.

According to a poll conducted by the Times of Israel, 43 percent of the respondents consider economic issues as the most important issue in the upcoming parliamentary elections in Israel.

Only 12 percent of the respondents, 23 percent of right-wing voters and only 2 percent of left-wing voters, said they were concerned about Iran and its nuclear energy program.

This is while Netanyahu has been trying to bring ‘security’ and diplomacy issues to the forefront of the January 22 elections.

On December 23, 2012, Netanyahu said that Iran’s nuclear energy program would “remain” his central issue in the next term if he was re-elected in the January elections.

Israel has repeatedly threatened to attack Iran's nuclear energy facilities based on the unfounded allegation that the Islamic Republic’s nuclear energy program may contain non-civilian aspects.

Iran has vehemently refuted the allegations against its nuclear energy program, arguing that as a committed signatory to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and a member of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), it is entitled to use nuclear technology for peaceful objectives.

Repeating the war-mongering rhetoric on November 5, Netanyahu said he is ready to order a strike on Iran’s nuclear energy facilities.

However, several current and former Israeli military and intelligence figures have come out against Netanyahu’s war rhetoric against Tehran, saying such a move will in fact be to the detriment of the Israeli regime itself.

On January 11, former Israeli Premier Ehud Olmert strongly criticized Netanyahu for wasting billions of shekels for preparing futile war plans against Iran and said, "In the past two years, we have spent more than 11 billion shekels on security hallucinations that were not performed and will not be performed.”

MYA/HMV/HJL

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PressTV? Really? Bwa-ahaahah!

They make RussiaTadaaa! and MSNBC look like a bunch of Abraham Lincolns, in comparison
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Again, this is why Janti-Semitic, err, I mean, anti-Zionists & other assorted Israel-critics -- whether Muslim, Commie, neo-Nazi, Libertarian or just "Progressive" ... CANNOT be taken seriously.

You know nothing about Israel or Jews. Your news sources and Twitter feeds are pure, laughable trash. And your logic is highly suspect, too. A real triple-threat, in other words, LOL.

1) By being one of the few in the world who refuses to (totally) bend to their will, Netanyahu has stuck in the throat of Obama, EU, Israeli Left and Saudis/Qataris as well as Iranians. Hence why he in the last 4 years he's been the target of the most massive propaganda character-assassination campaign the world has rarely seen -- literally from all possible MSM angles. Incl. cynically using the aftermath of the severe Global Recession from which Bibi saved Israel... as somehow his fault, LOL.

All those media hit-pieces & phony "leaks" planted...Haven't quite worked. Bibi is still going to win elections a week from now. He's still rightly viewed as THE only viable Prime-Ministerial candidate in Israel -- which, to be fair, is every bit as much his personal merit, as it is a sad commentary on the state of political affars in Jerusalem....

2) Iran. Must be stopped. Period. I won't belabour the arguements, at this point they are beyond obvious to any world citizen with any sense or education. And no amount of artless Teheran propaganda, including the utterly MEANIGLESS claims that Ayatollah Ali Khamenei allegedly issued some bullshit "fatwa" against nuclear weapsons.... is going to change that cold, hard REALITY. Nevermind that an EMP strike on Israel wouldn't even fall under that sorry excuse for a 'fatwa'... Sorry, Libtards --- Iran is getting hit; neither Ron Paul nor Chuck Hagel will save it.

3) Retaliation. That's what most Israelis fear -- and rightfully so. And even though Israel is History's Greatest Miracle, literally arisen & revived out of the ashes of the Holocaust just 3 short generations ago... a crazy-diverse, dynamic, kick-ass little desert country -----> that does NOT mean that most of its citizens can't behave like sheep that falls easy pray to (Leftist & Muslim) propaganda, emanating both externally as well as from the inside of Israel. In fact, while the ruling coalition in the Knesset is (nominally) Right-wing, Israel has a well-known Leftist Shadow Government, that spans not just foreign ministry, justice department, courts, media, labour union & remnanents of the various old Socialist-era business cartels & monopolies --- but also suprisingly enough, the IDF, the police & Interlligence agencies.

Cumulatively, they appear to have brainwashed at least a 1/3 -- if not 1/2 of Israeli public... into complete head-in-sand Ostrich-on-Prozac DENIAL of the profoundly existential threat posed by the Apocalyptic Twelvers in Teheran.

Ever since the New Israeli Left hijacked power by illicit means with in 1992... every policy DELUSION they forced down the (at times childishly naive, intensely peace-seeking) Israeli public... it turned out to be a disaster. From the Oslo Accords to cut-n-running from South Lebanon, to Gaza Disengagement to putting trust in promises/guarantees made by US & EU beurocrats...

It was Netanyahu who twice stopped the bleeding - not proverbial bleeding but actual literal bleeding of the nation at the hands of insatiable Mohammadans -- including finally showing IRGC, Sudan, Hamas & Islamic Jihad during 'Operation Pillar of Defense' that their massive billions-dollar worth underground terror infrastructure is NOT invulnerable to easy butt-whooping.

And wouldn't you know it, the (typically Western-minded) fickle Israeli public was pissed off not at Hamas but at Bibi & Lieberman for "not finishing the job". I had a long post at the main Pillar of Defense thread that basically quickly took apart that silly "arguement" piece by piece, so I won't repeat myself.

Other than to say, that when it comes to Iran, Israeli public's wishes -- nevermind those by Obama -- do NOT and should NOT matter one iota.

Neither does it matter what cowardly, big-bellied, fast-ass FORMER intelligence chiefs like Meir Dagan & Yuval Diskin say on the matter ----> that is, assuming they are not part of a vast Israeli psy-op, which knownig Israel I wouldn't be surprised... LOL

In other words let the proverbial grown-ups & other assorted Serious People handle it, K? Go about your daily business, everybody, and mind your manners.

Oh and PressTV should NOT be used for any other purpose than (weed-aided) entertainment. Get real.
 Quoting: Ashton's succulent Volvo 26321739


LOL, here's little more on GLP's go-to news source:


Iran pegs PM’s wife as commando fighter

"Did budding politician Naftali Bennett train in an elite commando unit with the prime minister’s wife? In Iran, the answer is an emphatic yes.

Bennett, the head of the resurgent Jewish Home party, jokingly told a Channel 10 interviewer Wednesday that he took a “terrorism course” with Sara Netanyahu.

Iran’s state-run Press TV, though, apparently not getting the joke, picked up the story as serious news, posting a straight-faced article about Bennett’s terror ties with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s wife.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his wife Sarah on September 27 at the UN in New York after Netanyahu’s speech to the General Assembly (photo credit: Avi Ohayun, GPO)
This isn’t the first time Iran’s media has been caught taking satire a little too seriously. In September, the country’s Fars news agency republished an article from the satirical newspaper The Onion about rural whites in the US preferring Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to US President Barack Obama.

And in July, Press TV reported an Onion story about Facebook being a CIA front
..."



[link to www.timesofisrael.com]



ahahaahah LMAO! No wonder PressTV.ir is so popular with most deranged & tardiest of the Conspiracy-turds! Religion-aside, they are cut from the same (hateful, paranoid, delusional) cloth as the Mullahs!
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one of the abiding mysteries of glp. also, the handle is creepy, doncha think?
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I dunno, I may be way out of line but I am just getting the
"Mid-aged Pedophile" vibe from JudethZ. A weirdo, to be sure.

Then again, it's the Internet. Anything is possible. WHich is why other than occasional Israel-related post on GLP, I've pretty much weaned myself off of it (recreationally speakking, not studies- or profession-related, of course).

Anyway. Only 5 days until the Israeli elections, playa. Obama-Soros-Livni-Don Altobello-Yachimovich-Diskin are putting MAD rush on to try to sabotage Bibi. They even had that prick Yehuda Weinstein cook up a "December Suprise" by charging Lieberman right before the elections, LOL.

Ironically, it may be Bibi's protege, the more Right-wing Naftali Bennett, who ends up hurting him in the end...

One thing to be grateful for: unlike the US elections where Soros boys in Spain clearly stole Florida if not Ohio... Israeli vote-tallying may indeed be be fairly on the up-and-up. Which bodes well for right-wing.

Altough I am sure Israel's SLG (Shadow Leftist Government like courts, Justice Dep, unions, etc) will try to pull something off at last minute.

What's Jimmy Carter up to these days? Isn't it about time to, um, accidentally let it slip that Israeli electoral system if Apartheid, too? :)
 Quoting: Ashtons succulent V 10514970


His latest thing is dissing the Southern Baptist Convention, I believe. I have no dog in that race, so I'm all for it if it keeps him out of world affairs.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Hey I noticed TexasGirl4Truth was back? Her Gaia, you, Gerry52, Darby Doom and a few others were my favorite peeps that made me post here.

Did you give them my best?
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Your name is poison, but I'll do that now. Except for Gaia, who hasn't been on the board for months. She still maintains her blog, though.
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I dunno, I may be way out of line but I am just getting the
"Mid-aged Pedophile" vibe from JudethZ. A weirdo, to be sure.

Then again, it's the Internet. Anything is possible. WHich is why other than occasional Israel-related post on GLP, I've pretty much weaned myself off of it (recreationally speakking, not studies- or profession-related, of course).

Anyway. Only 5 days until the Israeli elections, playa. Obama-Soros-Livni-Don Altobello-Yachimovich-Diskin are putting MAD rush on to try to sabotage Bibi. They even had that prick Yehuda Weinstein cook up a "December Suprise" by charging Lieberman right before the elections, LOL.

Ironically, it may be Bibi's protege, the more Right-wing Naftali Bennett, who ends up hurting him in the end...

One thing to be grateful for: unlike the US elections where Soros boys in Spain clearly stole Florida if not Ohio... Israeli vote-tallying may indeed be be fairly on the up-and-up. Which bodes well for right-wing.

Altough I am sure Israel's SLG (Shadow Leftist Government like courts, Justice Dep, unions, etc) will try to pull something off at last minute.

What's Jimmy Carter up to these days? Isn't it about time to, um, accidentally let it slip that Israeli electoral system if Apartheid, too? :)
 Quoting: Ashtons succulent V 10514970


His latest thing is dissing the Southern Baptist Convention, I believe. I have no dog in that race, so I'm all for it if it keeps him out of world affairs.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Hey I noticed TexasGirl4Truth was back? Her Gaia, you, Gerry52, Darby Doom and a few others were my favorite peeps that made me post here.

Did you give them my best?
 Quoting: Ashton's succulent Volvo 10514970


Your name is poison, but I'll do that now. Except for Gaia, who hasn't been on the board for months. She still maintains her blog, though.
 Quoting: Swinburnian


Poison? How so? Gee, it's that bad, huh? LOL

(And hey, I never said they liked me; I only said that I liked THEM. I don't make the latter conditional on the former)

Yo, did you hear that crooked clown Arieh Deri take pot-shots at Bibi that might as well be (and actually were) scripted in Washington DC and uttered by Livni? Ya think Labor already has Shas signed, sealed and delivered? Just to show how big amoral whores the Left ae: for all their absurd anti-Netanyahu vitriol, all the Social Justice/Universal Draft posturng... not only is Shelley Y. apparentl NOT cutting Haredi welfare or exemptions, rumours are she promised to triple or quaruple them if Shas helped her (US & EU masters) topple Netanyahu by all means necessary.

How can anyone even contemplate voting for Left (eerr, Left-"Center" parties after this... boggles the mind, LOL.
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don't get me started on shas, ashton. just don't.
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don't get me started on shas, ashton. just don't.
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As long as you do NOT conflate the few Shas crooks like Deri, with ALL religious-nationalist Israelis... you can get started on them to your heart's content, you won't get an arguement from me.

Or, wait, you are blaming Shas for this --- and NOT, you know, the 'Whore of Lahore' Shelley, Tzipi, and Shimon Peres before them (see: 1992 bribery of ultra-orthodox and naive, language-non speaking Russia new arivals, as part of Don Altobello/George HW Bush/Jesse Baker orchestrated campaign to defeat the "stubborn" right-wing Itzak Shamir...)......... who use populist demagoguery to foment secular hatred against religious ----> all while making deals behind the scenes with Haredi to quadruple the welfare & exemptions?

Because, obviously that's the old divide & rule strategy that even Ben-Gurion wasn't above... But to fall for it today would be embarassing.

Swin, please tell me you know the difference between Deri and, say, Naftali Bennett.
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Well, Bibi certainly doesn't care about what some Argentinian thinks.

Afterall, you guys are known for:

1) debt-default
2) harboring Nazi war-criminals.
3) Lionel Messi -- and even he chooses to play in Spain, not Argentina.
 Quoting: ASV 10514970


like a thief in the night
good luck

theres also a saying in my country that applies here
no escupas para arriba
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And I am telling you we don't care about your country or your sayings.
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yea you do
make your peace with 3world status
the writting is in the wall
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Btw, Swin, what's the constant whining I hear about how Israeli parliamentary system is so terrible, needs to be radically reformed, etc.

Would it better to have a binary winner-take-all system like in the U.S? Where once an America-hater mole like Obama got elected, he consolidated, corrupted & comandeered all the super-power resources to leak all the secrets to America's enemies & remake the world and middle east in particular via his buddies at Muslim Sisterhood.... ---- with no Americans capabale of stopping him even through congress.

It's harder to "get things done" in Israel? Well, Madosion said it's SUPPOSED TO BE hard to get things done. Because the (totalitarian) alternative is WAY worse --- but hey,, Moussolini did get trains to run on time and streets apparently were cleaner under Joseph "Soso" Jugashvilli...

IMO, Israel's problem is NOT the system, but the people and lack of leadership. Aside from Bibi and Bennett and maybe Lieberman on his best day, there is nobody.
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Btw, Swin, what's the constant whining I hear about how Israeli parliamentary system is so terrible, needs to be radically reformed, etc.

Would it better to have a binary winner-take-all system like in the U.S? Where once an America-hater mole like Obama got elected, he consolidated, corrupted & comandeered all the super-power resources to leak all the secrets to America's enemies & remake the world and middle east in particular via his buddies at Muslim Sisterhood.... ---- with no Americans capabale of stopping him even through congress.

It's harder to "get things done" in Israel? Well, Madosion said it's SUPPOSED TO BE hard to get things done. Because the (totalitarian) alternative is WAY worse --- but hey,, Moussolini did get trains to run on time and streets apparently were cleaner under Joseph "Soso" Jugashvilli...

IMO, Israel's problem is NOT the system, but the people and lack of leadership. Aside from Bibi and Bennett and maybe Lieberman on his best day, there is nobody.
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This lady gets it. Nice education, too. Extra irony that she is from Ehud Barak's splinter-party that really stuck it to Labor, LOL

[link to www.timesofisrael.com]
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don't get me started on shas, ashton. just don't.
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As long as you do NOT conflate the few Shas crooks like Deri, with ALL religious-nationalist Israelis... you can get started on them to your heart's content, you won't get an arguement from me.

Or, wait, you are blaming Shas for this --- and NOT, you know, the 'Whore of Lahore' Shelley, Tzipi, and Shimon Peres before them (see: 1992 bribery of ultra-orthodox and naive, language-non speaking Russia new arivals, as part of Don Altobello/George HW Bush/Jesse Baker orchestrated campaign to defeat the "stubborn" right-wing Itzak Shamir...)......... who use populist demagoguery to foment secular hatred against religious ----> all while making deals behind the scenes with Haredi to quadruple the welfare & exemptions?

Because, obviously that's the old divide & rule strategy that even Ben-Gurion wasn't above... But to fall for it today would be embarassing.

Swin, please tell me you know the difference between Deri and, say, Naftali Bennett.
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bla bla bla
no i was just saying i hate fucking shas
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Btw, Swin, what's the constant whining I hear about how Israeli parliamentary system is so terrible, needs to be radically reformed, etc.

Would it better to have a binary winner-take-all system like in the U.S? Where once an America-hater mole like Obama got elected, he consolidated, corrupted & comandeered all the super-power resources to leak all the secrets to America's enemies & remake the world and middle east in particular via his buddies at Muslim Sisterhood.... ---- with no Americans capabale of stopping him even through congress.

It's harder to "get things done" in Israel? Well, Madosion said it's SUPPOSED TO BE hard to get things done. Because the (totalitarian) alternative is WAY worse --- but hey,, Moussolini did get trains to run on time and streets apparently were cleaner under Joseph "Soso" Jugashvilli...

IMO, Israel's problem is NOT the system, but the people and lack of leadership. Aside from Bibi and Bennett and maybe Lieberman on his best day, there is nobody.
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that's right: the ONLY two choices are the present system of proportional representation and tyranny a la Stalin. pick
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don't get me started on shas, ashton. just don't.
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As long as you do NOT conflate the few Shas crooks like Deri, with ALL religious-nationalist Israelis... you can get started on them to your heart's content, you won't get an arguement from me.

Or, wait, you are blaming Shas for this --- and NOT, you know, the 'Whore of Lahore' Shelley, Tzipi, and Shimon Peres before them (see: 1992 bribery of ultra-orthodox and naive, language-non speaking Russia new arivals, as part of Don Altobello/George HW Bush/Jesse Baker orchestrated campaign to defeat the "stubborn" right-wing Itzak Shamir...)......... who use populist demagoguery to foment secular hatred against religious ----> all while making deals behind the scenes with Haredi to quadruple the welfare & exemptions?

Because, obviously that's the old divide & rule strategy that even Ben-Gurion wasn't above... But to fall for it today would be embarassing.

Swin, please tell me you know the difference between Deri and, say, Naftali Bennett.
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bla bla bla
no i was just saying i hate fucking shas
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LOL, did Shas steal your no-bid contract, or spit on your family member in a bus, or something. Tell me how you really feel, brah!

Oh and the "bla bla bla" as you so eloquently put it, is "only" where the fate of the 'little desert miracle that could' -- and possibly entire world -- may get decided. Obama gets his way, Iran waltzes over newcoolahr red-lines, and you probably know the rest... Bit I digress.

I have no love lost for the haredi freeloaders, either, but who's more more to blame here, Shas for being true to their principles, however disagreeable----> or treasonist whores like Yachimovich, Livni, Olmert who while lambasting Bibi over pandering to Shas, secretly attempt to bribe Shas & sit in government with them (as in the past Labor did).

And seeing so much hang-wringing over Ultra-Orthodox == who only kept Judaism alive for 2,000 years in horrific circumstances -- and therefore, without whom there would be NO Israel today, either....Swin, where do you stand on Israeli-Arabs?

a) don't pay taxes or evade them like heck
b) conspire with Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah & Erdogans of this world
c) take up job & university spots from better qualified Jews
d) steal cars like they are going out of style
e) present a long-term demographic threat on par with Ultra-Orthodox
f) made burning Israeli forests into national sport.
letter that comes after f that I forget) do NOT serve in army or national service.

Funny how everyone villifies Ultra-Orthox, but aside from Lieberman, Ben-Ari, Eldad... everyone is mum on Israeli-Arabs ---> clearly terrified of Arab revolt.
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PressTV.ir ?

An Iranian official site, not exactly the most reliable source now is it ?

Most Israelis do agree with Netanyahu, perhaps not on all issues but he does have a lead in the polls and will most likely continue to be Israel's PM !
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how would you know? You are in Romania.
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Yeah really.

What would this clown know about anything.
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Btw, Swin, what's the constant whining I hear about how Israeli parliamentary system is so terrible, needs to be radically reformed, etc.

Would it better to have a binary winner-take-all system like in the U.S? Where once an America-hater mole like Obama got elected, he consolidated, corrupted & comandeered all the super-power resources to leak all the secrets to America's enemies & remake the world and middle east in particular via his buddies at Muslim Sisterhood.... ---- with no Americans capabale of stopping him even through congress.

It's harder to "get things done" in Israel? Well, Madosion said it's SUPPOSED TO BE hard to get things done. Because the (totalitarian) alternative is WAY worse --- but hey,, Moussolini did get trains to run on time and streets apparently were cleaner under Joseph "Soso" Jugashvilli...

IMO, Israel's problem is NOT the system, but the people and lack of leadership. Aside from Bibi and Bennett and maybe Lieberman on his best day, there is nobody.
 Quoting: ASV 29555389


that's right: the ONLY two choices are the present system of proportional representation and tyranny a la Stalin. pick
 Quoting: Swinburnian


No, but as shown, even the famed American system that Winston Churchill dubbed the "least worst of all", is NOT much better --- if at all!

Overarching point is: "it's the people, NOT the electoral system, stupid!". Running an advanced Western Civilization is SUPPOSED to be hard & frustrating at times. It's supposed to challenge all those big-shots with their Princton, Technion, Cambridge, West Point diplomas to operate at their top intellectual & creative capacity. And even then there is no guarantee that the legislature or reform will pass -- and James Madison, Jefferso, et all INTENDED it to be that way! There is no short-cut; there is no easy (beurocratic, procedural) cure.

And yes, the danger of tyrany, totalitarianism IS so overwhemming & ever-present... that before you start fucking up an existing and functioning system like in Israel, you better think 100 times. Study the rise of Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Mao and countless other cannibals; initially quite people fell in love for their demagoguery & calls for utopian reforms. Reality was somerthing else, though. Don't think Israel is immune. Heck, even in existing system someone like Obama can hijack the national agenda, which is scary in its own right.

Arab Spring should have taught you a lesson -- seeing Egypt, Syria, Lebanon meltdown in recent years... it's a heck of a lot easier to destroy/change something that it is to built & create something, however imperfect.
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Btw, Swin, what's the constant whining I hear about how Israeli parliamentary system is so terrible, needs to be radically reformed, etc.

Would it better to have a binary winner-take-all system like in the U.S? Where once an America-hater mole like Obama got elected, he consolidated, corrupted & comandeered all the super-power resources to leak all the secrets to America's enemies & remake the world and middle east in particular via his buddies at Muslim Sisterhood.... ---- with no Americans capabale of stopping him even through congress.

It's harder to "get things done" in Israel? Well, Madosion said it's SUPPOSED TO BE hard to get things done. Because the (totalitarian) alternative is WAY worse --- but hey,, Moussolini did get trains to run on time and streets apparently were cleaner under Joseph "Soso" Jugashvilli...

IMO, Israel's problem is NOT the system, but the people and lack of leadership. Aside from Bibi and Bennett and maybe Lieberman on his best day, there is nobody.
 Quoting: ASV 29555389


that's right: the ONLY two choices are the present system of proportional representation and tyranny a la Stalin. pick
 Quoting: Swinburnian


No, but as shown, even the famed American system that Winston Churchill dubbed the "least worst of all", is NOT much better --- if at all!

Overarching point is: "it's the people, NOT the electoral system, stupid!". Running an advanced Western Civilization is SUPPOSED to be hard & frustrating at times. It's supposed to challenge all those big-shots with their Princton, Technion, Cambridge, West Point diplomas to operate at their top intellectual & creative capacity. And even then there is no guarantee that the legislature or reform will pass -- and James Madison, Jefferso, et all INTENDED it to be that way! There is no short-cut; there is no easy (beurocratic, procedural) cure.

And yes, the danger of tyrany, totalitarianism IS so overwhemming & ever-present... that before you start fucking up an existing and functioning system like in Israel, you better think 100 times. Study the rise of Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Mao and countless other cannibals; initially quite people fell in love for their demagoguery & calls for utopian reforms. Reality was somerthing else, though. Don't think Israel is immune. Heck, even in existing system someone like Obama can hijack the national agenda, which is scary in its own right.

Arab Spring should have taught you a lesson -- seeing Egypt, Syria, Lebanon meltdown in recent years... it's a heck of a lot easier to destroy/change something that it is to built & create something, however imperfect.
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ummmm.....



The only reason you didn't hear about the Israeli Spring is because the Jewish owned media censored the story.
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Btw, Swin, what's the constant whining I hear about how Israeli parliamentary system is so terrible, needs to be radically reformed, etc.

Would it better to have a binary winner-take-all system like in the U.S? Where once an America-hater mole like Obama got elected, he consolidated, corrupted & comandeered all the super-power resources to leak all the secrets to America's enemies & remake the world and middle east in particular via his buddies at Muslim Sisterhood.... ---- with no Americans capabale of stopping him even through congress.

It's harder to "get things done" in Israel? Well, Madosion said it's SUPPOSED TO BE hard to get things done. Because the (totalitarian) alternative is WAY worse --- but hey,, Moussolini did get trains to run on time and streets apparently were cleaner under Joseph "Soso" Jugashvilli...

IMO, Israel's problem is NOT the system, but the people and lack of leadership. Aside from Bibi and Bennett and maybe Lieberman on his best day, there is nobody.
 Quoting: ASV 29555389


that's right: the ONLY two choices are the present system of proportional representation and tyranny a la Stalin. pick
 Quoting: Swinburnian


No, but as shown, even the famed American system that Winston Churchill dubbed the "least worst of all", is NOT much better --- if at all!

Overarching point is: "it's the people, NOT the electoral system, stupid!". Running an advanced Western Civilization is SUPPOSED to be hard & frustrating at times. It's supposed to challenge all those big-shots with their Princton, Technion, Cambridge, West Point diplomas to operate at their top intellectual & creative capacity. And even then there is no guarantee that the legislature or reform will pass -- and James Madison, Jefferso, et all INTENDED it to be that way! There is no short-cut; there is no easy (beurocratic, procedural) cure.

And yes, the danger of tyrany, totalitarianism IS so overwhemming & ever-present... that before you start fucking up an existing and functioning system like in Israel, you better think 100 times. Study the rise of Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Mao and countless other cannibals; initially quite people fell in love for their demagoguery & calls for utopian reforms. Reality was somerthing else, though. Don't think Israel is immune. Heck, even in existing system someone like Obama can hijack the national agenda, which is scary in its own right.

Arab Spring should have taught you a lesson -- seeing Egypt, Syria, Lebanon meltdown in recent years... it's a heck of a lot easier to destroy/change something that it is to built & create something, however imperfect.
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<snip irrelevant propaganda>

The only reason you didn't hear about the Israeli Spring is because the Jewish owned media censored the story.
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LMAO, fail on truly spectacular scale, even by GLP stantands.

You literally don't know anything beyond some 4th rate agitprop tardation, do ya?

Fact: Israel is one of the few 1st world countries that have weathered the Global Recession ---> which is an impressive feat considering that

a) it doesn't have unlimited oil/gas wealth (unlike some of its neighbors who were lucky as hell the kind Westerners taught them to use toilet paper, nevermind how to extract, refine, transport, insure, sell oil to markets.... who are you kidding!). Now, since Bibi came to power, Israel found a lot of gas & shale-oil, but that is only now starting to have impact...

b) 2/3 of Israel's exports depend on the US & EU which were engulfed in severe recession, thus couldn't buy more (Israel is currently diversifying itself toward Asian, African markets, you'll be happy to know)

c) while B.D.S movement has largely failed, nonethless Israel is still under "unofficial" economic, cultural and academic boycott. Which at present time caps, its potential.

d) threat of war & unremitting terror atttempts that prevent it from reaching AAA credit rating and always limit foreign investments. Again, as Israel becomes even stronger under Bibi, the environment is softening, but even Bibi can't reverse 65 years of perceived investment risk --- however over-blown.


And DESPITE all that... Israel is a freakin' OASIS surreounded by Arab Winter chaos. Truth/money talks and your proganda bullshit walks ---> even East Jerusalem Arab residents who attack Jews daily both physically and verbally, just about had a riot when it was suggested their neighborhoods would be automatically incorpoated into the newly created state called "Palestine", instead preferring to stay a part of the dreaded Jewish state, HAHAAHAHA!

The phony-baloney, Obama/George Soros-funded NGO engineered "Social Justice" protests in 2011?

1) They were overblown by about 10 times by the liberal Israel MSM. And even then, most of the Che Guevara poseurs people there came becausde of celebtrities performing and ebcause it was summer in Tel Aviv, great party scene.... Oooops, there goes another "Occupy" (bowel movemenent.

3) It failed to sustain itself over the next 2 years. Even with all its crazy ethnically & ideologically diverse Israel, even considering that Jews can never agree on anything because they/we are such individualists....even with Arab minority and Palestinian terror & genocidal rhetoric... Israel remains incredibly STABLE and PROSPERIOUS.

And with off-shore gas & oil coming online soon... with other countries melting down or about to melt down, or having Algeria-style terror hostage mishaps.... Israel's UNIQUE geo-strategic position will only get further solidified.

Toss my salad, loser...in other words.
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Btw, the Kremlin-propaganda RT or RussiaToday... is only a step above the hysterically funny PressTV.ir.

Using RT as gospel-source makes me feel embarassed for you and your parents.

In truth, there were at most 75,000 "protesters" at Rothschild Blv during the infamous "Cottage Cheese" revolution --> and most of them were typical summer party-goer gawkers, bums, anarchists on Soros payroll. Meh.

It was truly Little Ado about Nothing.
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Btw, the Kremlin-propaganda RT or RussiaToday... is only a step above the hysterically funny PressTV.ir.

Using RT as gospel-source makes me feel embarassed for you and your parents.

In truth, there were at most 75,000 "protesters" at Rothschild Blv during the infamous "Cottage Cheese" revolution --> and most of them were typical summer party-goer gawkers, bums, anarchists on Soros payroll. Meh.

It was truly Little Ado about Nothing.
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lulz, surprise suprise, Daphne Leef (spoiled elite Tel Avivnik who led the aformentioned "Social Justice" misnomer)..... turns out her whole movement has rootes going deep into Israel's Communist Party (Hadash)...

Gee, I wonder who bankrolled their operation...

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Plot thins :)
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Netenyahu has been banging the war drum with Iran for decades

Way back in the early 90s, 91 or 92 I think he claimed Iran was 5 years away from a nuclear bomb, that was 20 years ago.

Hes a nutcase with an agenda, sometimes its harder to work out whos crazier, Netenyahu or Ahmidinjad.

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