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Resister User ID: 669410 United States 01/15/2013 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most ancient Israelis disagreed with Daniel on Persia (Iran) and Isaiah on Asyria (Iraq). Just saying. Just because the general population doesn't comprehend danger doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We just re-elected Obama. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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Ashton's succulent Volvo User ID: 26321739 United States 01/15/2013 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Despite the rhetoric by Israeli Premier Benjamin Netanyahu to sensationalize the Western dispute over Iran’s nuclear energy program, a recent survey shows that the majority of Israelis believe the issue of economy, not Iran, is the most critical issue they face. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16689814 According to a poll conducted by the Times of Israel, 43 percent of the respondents consider economic issues as the most important issue in the upcoming parliamentary elections in Israel. Only 12 percent of the respondents, 23 percent of right-wing voters and only 2 percent of left-wing voters, said they were concerned about Iran and its nuclear energy program. This is while Netanyahu has been trying to bring ‘security’ and diplomacy issues to the forefront of the January 22 elections. On December 23, 2012, Netanyahu said that Iran’s nuclear energy program would “remain” his central issue in the next term if he was re-elected in the January elections. Israel has repeatedly threatened to attack Iran's nuclear energy facilities based on the unfounded allegation that the Islamic Republic’s nuclear energy program may contain non-civilian aspects. Iran has vehemently refuted the allegations against its nuclear energy program, arguing that as a committed signatory to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and a member of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), it is entitled to use nuclear technology for peaceful objectives. Repeating the war-mongering rhetoric on November 5, Netanyahu said he is ready to order a strike on Iran’s nuclear energy facilities. However, several current and former Israeli military and intelligence figures have come out against Netanyahu’s war rhetoric against Tehran, saying such a move will in fact be to the detriment of the Israeli regime itself. On January 11, former Israeli Premier Ehud Olmert strongly criticized Netanyahu for wasting billions of shekels for preparing futile war plans against Iran and said, "In the past two years, we have spent more than 11 billion shekels on security hallucinations that were not performed and will not be performed.” MYA/HMV/HJL [link to www.presstv.ir] PressTV? Really? Bwa-ahaahah! They make RussiaTadaaa! and MSNBC look like a bunch of Abraham Lincolns, in comparison. Again, this is why Janti-Semitic, err, I mean, anti-Zionists & other assorted Israel-critics -- whether Muslim, Commie, neo-Nazi, Libertarian or just "Progressive" ... CANNOT be taken seriously. You know nothing about Israel or Jews. Your news sources and Twitter feeds are pure, laughable trash. And your logic is highly suspect, too. A real triple-threat, in other words, LOL. 1) By being one of the few in the world who refuses to (totally) bend to their will, Netanyahu has stuck in the throat of Obama, EU, Israeli Left and Saudis/Qataris as well as Iranians. Hence why he in the last 4 years he's been the target of the massive propaganda character-assassination the world has rarely seen -- literally from all possible MSM angles. Incl. cynically using the aftermath of the severe Global Recession from which Bibi saved Israel... as somehow his fault, LOL. All those media hit-pieces & phony "leaks" planted...Haven't quite worked. Bibi is still going to win elections a week from now. He's still rightly viewed as THE only viable Prime-Ministerial candidate in Israel -- which, to be fair, is every bit as much his personal merit, as it is a sad commentary on the state of political affars in Jerusalem.... 2) Iran. Must be stopped. Period. I won't belabour the arguements, at this point they are beyond obvious to any world citizen with any sense or education. And no amount of artless Teheran propaganda, including the utterly MEANIGLESS claims that Ayatollah Ali Khamenei allegedly issued some bullshit "fatwa" against nuclear weapsons.... is going to change that cold, hard REALITY. Sorry, Libtards --- Iran is getting hit, neither Ron Paul lnor Chuck Hagel will save it. 3) Retaliation. That's what most Israelis fear -- and rightfully so. And even though Israel is History's Greatest Miracle, literally arisen & revived out of the ashes of the Holocaust just 3 short generations ago... a crazy-diverse, dynamic, kick-ass little desert country -----> that does NOT mean that most of its citizens can't behave like sheep that falls easy pray to (Leftist & Muslim) propaganda, emanating both externally as well as from the inside of Israel. In fact, while the ruling coalition in the Knesset is (nominally) Right-wing, Israel has a well-known Leftist Shadow Government, that spans not just foreign ministry, justice department, courts, media, labour union & remnanents of the various old Socialist-era business cartels & monopolies --- but also suprisingly enough, the IDF, the police & Interlligence agencies. Cumulatively, they appear to have brainwashed at least a 1/3 -- if not 1/2 of Israeli public... into complete hand-in-sand Ostrich-on-Prozac DENIAL of the eminently existential threat posed by the Apocalyptic Twelvers in Teheran. Ever since the New Israeli Left hijacked power by illicit means with in 1992... every DELUSION they forced down the (at times childishly naive, intensely peace-seeking) Israeli public... it turned out to be a disaster. From the Oslo Accords to cut-n-running from South Lebanon, to Gaza Disengagement to putting trust in promises/guarantees made by US & EU beurocrats... It was Netanyahu who twice stopped the bleeding - not proverbial bleeding but actual literal bleeding of the nation at the hands of insatiable Mohammadans -- inclduing finally showing IRGC, Sudan, Hamas & Islamic Jihad during Operation Pillar of Defense that their massive billions-dollar worth underground terror infrastructure is NOT invulnerable to easy butt-whooping. And wouldn't you know it, the (typically Western-minded) fickle Israeli public was pissed off not at Hamas but at Bibi & Lieberman for "not finishing the job". I had a long post at the main Pillar of Defense thread that basically quickly took apart that silly "arguement" piece by piece, so I won't repeat myself. Other than to say, that when it comes to Iran, Israeli public's wishes -- nevermind those by Obama -- do NOT and should NOT matter one iota. Neither does it matter what cowardly, big-bellied, fast-ass FORMER intelligence chiefs like Meir Dagan & Yuval Diskin say on the matter ----> that is, assuming they are not part of a vast Israeli psy-op, which knownig Israel I wouldn't be surprised... LOL In other words let the proverbial grown-ups & other assorted Serious People handle it, K? Go about your daily business, everybody and mind your manners. Oh and PressTV should NOT be used for any other purpose than (weed-aided) entertainment. Get real. |
ASV User ID: 26321739 United States 01/15/2013 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, subz, I've spoken to Israelis and they mostly don't support a war on Iran. Quoting: IMAX even the people in the government don't support a war on Iran. that doesn't mean they love Iran You've "spoken to Israelis"? LOL, Naturei Karta and/or self-loathing Norman Finklestein types. Have you ever thought about the fact that they a) were the exception, not the rule b) told you what you wanted to hear C) don't know their shit from shinola when it comes to geo-strategic -- nay, existential -- and military isssues... you knnow, like MOST regular people anywhere in the world, for that matter? Better yet: gee, what a revelation most people, nevermind Israelis, DON'T WANT war. Especially if the opinion polls are conducted by Left-leaning publications with an agenda... But guess what? Iran is NOT giving Israel or US/NATO any other choice but war. Mullahs crave war; they want their Mahdi to return. And they will get their wish, like it or not. So your silly little empirical "evidence", is irrelevant ultimately. No offense. |
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ASV User ID: 26321739 United States 01/15/2013 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most ancient Israelis disagreed with Daniel on Persia (Iran) and Isaiah on Asyria (Iraq). Just saying. Quoting: Resister Just because the general population doesn't comprehend danger doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We just re-elected Obama. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers. Ding-ding-ding. It's one of the downsides of democracy... everyone thinks they are an expert, LOL. And when it comes to the incredibly complicated issue of newcooklarh Iran, even real experts are at their wits' end! With regards to the reported security establishment opposition to Iran strike, it gets even more murky: 1) They are overbloan by Obama-ass-licking press, both here and there. 2) Could be part of an elaborate Psy-op or fake-out before an actual strike & prolonged war of attrition takes place. 3) If you read those statements more closely, most of them are NOT actually against strike on Iran -- just as a last resort and preferrably with US/NATO/Sunni Arab Gulf States involvement. Uh, but this isn't 1998, 2003 or even 2008 -- time is rapidly running out, the time for last resort is already here! And with Obama at the helm, don't expect much support, at least initially. So what do we have? Israel may have no choice but to act, thus making those "objections" no longer relevant (that is, assuming they weren't politically motivated in the first place, which is a big-ass assumption IMO!) 4) Israel has trained swamps, ran rivers and made desert bloom in record-short period of time, historically-speaking. And all that without any natural resources --> and in the face of near-constant wars & terror attempts waged against it by its barbaric neighbors. And now that it is finally a prosperous Start-Up Nation... of course the new generation doesn't know hardship & wants to have easy life of fun. Including those same IDF & Intelligence beurocrats who have better glorified desk-sitters in recent years, have grown big-bellies & fat-asses, desperately clutching onto media spotlight, their generous perks, benefits, not wanting to rock the boat -- and by doing so, risk jeopardizing their retirement benefits or prospects at cushy lucrative private-sector job waiting for them afterwards.... Not to mention, even in the event of a very successful pre-emptive strike on Iranian nuke program, the IDF & political heads involved may find themselves being called "War Criminals" and otherwise hounded by gratuitous lawsuits all over the world --- there goes their ability to travel overseas, whether for business, to lecture or just on vacation. Don't think for a moment, their wives aren't nagging them 24/7 about it, either LOL. Heck, on a certain level I can understand the anxiety of bnoth Israeli public and officials. Iran is a tough nut to crack --> if only because its nuke program has been NEGLECTED for the last 2 decades+. Bill Clinton wasted time on cigar-banging fattie interns in the Oval Office and, subsequently, on bombing poor Serbians to distract the nation. George Bush had 9/11 and both Afganistan, Iraq and fanatical Liberals sniping at his ankles constantly.... And Israel? Peace Process - in all its 2nd Intifada suicide-bombing glory, took up most of their time & attention.... Europeans? Puh-lease, don't get me started! So suddenly, now in 2013, we are all having a real, unadulterated Come-to-Jesus moment as Apocalyptic Psychos in Teheran seem to be poised to cross the nuke threshhold.... But in the end, the right, hard decisions will be made vis-a-vis Iran. And that's all there is to it. |
ASV User ID: 26321739 United States 01/15/2013 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sub. as an israeli i can confirm this. people on the street dont seem to be too concerned with iran, the economy is more important. Quoting: DPS Welcome to the Leftist Education by-product. Just the sheer inability to grasp the cause-effect relationship... not to mention, willful ignorance of history, religion & politics...People can be such idiots, even the Israelis. Especially the Israelis, LOL! Fact: without resolving Iran and keeping Muslim Sisterhood at bay by ALL means necessary.... economy will turn to SHIT permanently & the Jewish state will no longer be viable. From that point on, Holocaust 2.0 will only be a matter of time--- remember, Palestinian Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini practixally begged Hitler to exterminate Middle Eastern Jews as well ----> only failed bcause Adolf lost the war.... And with subsequent Arab wars, they certainly tried their best to annihilate the Jewish state.... only failed because of heroic military resistance. Certainl not for lack of trying on their part. That's quite a few Israelis simply refuse to understand. Without security, there is NO economomy. And without constantly re-affirming the 3,500 Jewish right to the land including East Jerusalem, there is NO security. That's the fundamental relationship between things that many in the "People's Republic of Tel Avivia" in particular... haver just refused to come to grips with. |
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Judethz User ID: 20521597 United Kingdom 01/15/2013 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sub. as an israeli i can confirm this. people on the street dont seem to be too concerned with iran, the economy is more important. Quoting: DPS but most arent aware of the many threats we face. they are not aware of the fact that the US is arming our enemies, they arent aware of the russian pawns positioned all around us. In other words they are dumb sheeple like most of the rest of us. |
ASV User ID: 8911187 United States 01/15/2013 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | but most arent aware of the many threats we face. they are not aware of the fact that the US is arming our enemies, they arent aware of the russian pawns positioned all around us. Quoting: DPS Yeah, some are unaware, but most ARE aware --> maybe not in all details & to the fulleset extent, but in general terms, absolutely. The problem is that they DON'T care -- or certainly don't care enough. That is to say, they stubbornly refuse to care. Delusion is bliss; so is ignorance. Believe me, I know my generation very well, LOL. Ostrich-on-Prozac (or Weed) Syndrom. Hand in sand, say yes to gay-discos, say no to bombing Iran. That's as sophisticated as the arguement gets in most circles. I mean, look even at the Nobel Prize winner in Chemistry, Professor Schechtman(sp?): he just came out against Netanyahu, telling all Leftist & Arab parties to unite with one goal in mind: to depose Netanyahu. He then called for creation of the Shadow Leftist Government -- nevermind that as I mentioned before, at least since Shimon Peres & Justice Aharon Barak hijacked Israeli agenda 20 years ago, such highly-UNdemocratic government arguably already exists.... but that's not as important as this: how can someone ostensibly so friggin' smart as Nobel-prize winner be so STUPID & PATHETIC in his political views & ideas???? A conundrum if not a hopeless Parodox. So if a professor can be so misguided,of course your average Israeli brain-washed by liberal MSM has NO chance to resist the siren song of appeasement & international pressure from Obama and Co. And that's chemistry, a hard-schience that is supposed to be apolitical if not right-leaning, normanlly. Nevermind that Israeli universities, especially in Humanities studies, history, political science, are basically militant quasi-Marxists who don't even pretend to have any Zionist loyalty or academic objectivity! Now imagine what kind graduates they produce in terms of ideology & political beliefs, scary stuff. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32310105 India 01/15/2013 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "...re-affirming the 3,500-year Jewish right to the land including East Jerusalem..." Quoting: ASV 26321739 What about the Native North American Indians land? Yupee. What about it? I am sorry, I don't speak Libtard-snarkese gibberish. Then why you acting like a hypocrite? |
ASV User ID: 11868823 United States 01/15/2013 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "...re-affirming the 3,500-year Jewish right to the land including East Jerusalem..." Quoting: ASV 26321739 What about the Native North American Indians land? Yupee. What about it? I am sorry, I don't speak Libtard-snarkese gibberish. Then why you acting like a hypocrite? LOL, what would Libtards do without the word "hypocrite"... Their/your entire vocabulary & mode of debate consists of a) throwing out wild, emotionally-charged, arbitrary, at times nonsensical analogies that have absolutely NO basis fact or reality (example: moronic comparison of the unique Israeli situation with Native-Americans, Apartheid South Africa, Northern Ireland, etc). b) when they are easily disproved, discrdited and otherwise shown to be using fundamentally flawed reasoning/premises... they set off a nuclear bomb by calling their opponent either a RACISSSS, a HEEPACRETE ---> or if the Libtard in question happens to be on his monthly PMS, then he defiantly yells out "RACISSS HEEPACRETE!!!" and stomps off all pissed, LOL. Um, sorry, what were you saying again about reservatons (whose size is 10 times bigger than Israel, by the way)? |
ASV User ID: 11868823 United States 01/15/2013 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sub. as an israeli i can confirm this. people on the street dont seem to be too concerned with iran, the economy is more important. Quoting: DPS but most arent aware of the many threats we face. they are not aware of the fact that the US is arming our enemies, they arent aware of the russian pawns positioned all around us. :blackcat: In other words they are dumb sheeple like most of the rest of us. JudethZ, forgive me for off-topic: but you are one weird (I presume) female. What's with "cutesy" creepy pictures? |
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Ashton's landing Strip User ID: 32468273 United States 01/17/2013 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PressTV.ir ? Quoting: subzero86 An Iranian official site, not exactly the most reliable source now is it ? Most Israelis do agree with Netanyahu, perhaps not on all issues but he does have a lead in the polls and will most likely continue to be Israel's PM ! Liar! Press TV, RussiaTadaaa! & www.MahdiRulesZionistEntityDrools.ir... are beacons of truth and justice for all and not just for some but for all-- did I mention Justice and Mahdi for all not just for some Allahu Akhbar?! Bibi is only winning because he destributes poison candies and AIDS-infected toys to Palestinians -- oddly enough all of whom had previous close contact with Yassir Arafat bur I am sure it's all just a giant coincidence..... and otherwise enchants Zionist Entitiers with harmful beliefs! [link to www.israelnationalnews.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11934995 Canada 01/17/2013 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sub. as an israeli i can confirm this. people on the street dont seem to be too concerned with iran, the economy is more important. Quoting: DPS but most arent aware of the many threats we face. they are not aware of the fact that the US is arming our enemies, they arent aware of the russian pawns positioned all around us. :blackcat: In other words they are dumb sheeple like most of the rest of us. JudethZ, forgive me for off-topic: but you are one weird (I presume) female. What's with "cutesy" creepy pictures? one of the abiding mysteries of glp. also, the handle is creepy, doncha think? |
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Ashtons succulent V User ID: 10514970 United States 01/17/2013 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sub. as an israeli i can confirm this. people on the street dont seem to be too concerned with iran, the economy is more important. Quoting: DPS but most arent aware of the many threats we face. they are not aware of the fact that the US is arming our enemies, they arent aware of the russian pawns positioned all around us. :blackcat: In other words they are dumb sheeple like most of the rest of us. JudethZ, forgive me for off-topic: but you are one weird (I presume) female. What's with "cutesy" creepy pictures? one of the abiding mysteries of glp. also, the handle is creepy, doncha think? I dunno, I may be way out of line but I am just getting the "Mid-aged Pedophile" vibe from JudethZ. A weirdo, to be sure. Then again, it's the Internet. Anything is possible. WHich is why other than occasional Israel-related post on GLP, I've pretty much weaned myself off of it (recreationally speakking, not studies- or profession-related, of course). Anyway. Only 5 days until the Israeli elections, playa. Obama-Soros-Livni-Don Altobello-Yachimovich-Diskin are putting MAD rush on to try to sabotage Bibi. They even had that prick Yehuda Weinstein cook up a "December Suprise" by charging Lieberman right before the elections, LOL. Ironically, it may be Bibi's protege, the more Right-wing Naftali Bennett, who ends up hurting him in the end... One thing to be grateful for: unlike the US elections where Soros boys in Spain clearly stole Florida if not Ohio... Israeli vote-tallying may indeed be be fairly on the up-and-up. Which bodes well for right-wing. Altough I am sure Israel's SLG (Shadow Leftist Government like courts, Justice Dep, unions, etc) will try to pull something off at last minute. What's Jimmy Carter up to these days? Isn't it about time to, um, accidentally let it slip that Israeli electoral system if Apartheid, too? :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11934995 Canada 01/17/2013 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JudethZ, forgive me for off-topic: but you are one weird (I presume) female. What's with "cutesy" creepy pictures? one of the abiding mysteries of glp. also, the handle is creepy, doncha think? I dunno, I may be way out of line but I am just getting the "Mid-aged Pedophile" vibe from JudethZ. A weirdo, to be sure. Then again, it's the Internet. Anything is possible. WHich is why other than occasional Israel-related post on GLP, I've pretty much weaned myself off of it (recreationally speakking, not studies- or profession-related, of course). Anyway. Only 5 days until the Israeli elections, playa. Obama-Soros-Livni-Don Altobello-Yachimovich-Diskin are putting MAD rush on to try to sabotage Bibi. They even had that prick Yehuda Weinstein cook up a "December Suprise" by charging Lieberman right before the elections, LOL. Ironically, it may be Bibi's protege, the more Right-wing Naftali Bennett, who ends up hurting him in the end... One thing to be grateful for: unlike the US elections where Soros boys in Spain clearly stole Florida if not Ohio... Israeli vote-tallying may indeed be be fairly on the up-and-up. Which bodes well for right-wing. Altough I am sure Israel's SLG (Shadow Leftist Government like courts, Justice Dep, unions, etc) will try to pull something off at last minute. What's Jimmy Carter up to these days? Isn't it about time to, um, accidentally let it slip that Israeli electoral system if Apartheid, too? :) His latest thing is dissing the Southern Baptist Convention, I believe. I have no dog in that race, so I'm all for it if it keeps him out of world affairs. |