Do you have some documented evidence regarding these numbers of children then? Seriously, that's not a jibe at your point, if it exists then I'd like to see it because the vast majority of Muslims I see, know and deal with every day have 2 and 3 children also. Not that it would change my mind on the whole take over thing, but it would still be interesting to see.

Also, a take over by 2050 assumes that our social structures, where we live and how we live all remain static apart from the fact that Muslims are breeding at an alarming rate. A lot can happen in 40 years. The third world countries could be in a much better state as society seems to advance faster with greater advances in technology so you might find that a lot of people choose to move elsewhere other than England and that's including Asians and also whites. Rather than worrying about breeding numbers we should be working hard to form better relationships and understandings of our migrant brothers and sisters. It may seem like an impossible task at the minute but certain members of society manage to co exist just fine with different races without feeling threatened, myself included. When I'm speaking to someone black, white, Indian, Pakistani they just register as people in my head. I don't qualify them as anything else except for making judgements based on the actions of the individual, I.e. if someone is a complete tosser then they are just a tosser and not a black tosser, Asian tosser etc. it was just the way I was brought up. Maybe my view differs with living in Bradford as I went to all my schools with an ethnically mixed group of people and as a whole people just integrated with very little racial problems other than the occasional bout of childishness.