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Found this article this morning:

A man who found six children in his driveway in Newtown, Conn., after their teacher had been shot and killed in last month's school massacre has become the target of conspiracy theorists who believe the shootings were staged.

“I don’t know what to do,” Gene Rosen told Salon.com. “I’m getting hang-up calls, I’m getting some calls, I’m getting emails with, not direct threats, but accusations that I’m lying, that I’m a crisis actor, ‘How much am I being paid?'”

Rosen, a 69-year-old retired psychologist who lives near Sandy Hook Elementary School where the shootings took place, says his inbox is filled with emails like this one:

How are all those little students doing? You know, the ones that showed up at your house after the ‘shooting’. What is the going rate for getting involved in a gov’t sponsored hoax anyway?

“The quantity of the material is overwhelming,” Rosen said, adding that he's sought the advice of a retired state police officer and plans to alert the FBI.

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Rosen took the four girls and two boys—students of slain teacher Victoria Soto—into his home, gave them toys and comforted them while he tried to reach their parents. He spent the days following the massacre telling his story to the swarming media that invaded the small Connecticut town in the wake of the shootings.

“I wanted to speak about the bravery of the children,” Rosen told Salon. “I guess I kind of opened myself up to this.”

A quick Web search for Rosen's name reveals some of what he's opened himself up to: Appearing online are photos of his home, his address and phone number, several fake YouTube accounts and plenty of conspiracy theories.

One post, entitled "Grieving Town Grandfather, or Bad 'Crisis Actor,'" reads in part:

Gene's oft repeated, and changing, story about that day, focuses totally on the kids and the sound of gunshots. Even though his eyes and ears should've taken in the whole scene, his story focuses completely on the kids and the guns.

Why? Well, if this was a false flag event designed to move political opinion on gun control, here in America, then you would get a lot more bang for your buck by talking about the innocent little children. That's what tugs on America's heart strings the most ... especially around Christmas time.

[link to news.yahoo.com]
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one-star stamp of approval. thanks bro
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Havent really done much digging on the sandy hook crap because by aurora I already decided the government had their own agenda (as last year I watched food inc, forks over knives, and countless videos and stories on 9 eleven's false flag).

I think this guy could be truthful but like I said, I havent done any research myself besides the initial reports that came about 2 or 3 shooters, 2 running by the gym, one man arrested in the woods, the police scanner saying multiple shooters, and the ar15 footage of the trunk in the parking lot. That all aside, where are the surveilance videos from the school and colorado's movie theater. Without those, the government and anyone saying this was a sick kid and a slack gun law can shove it.

Feel sorry for the guy who is being harrased but he did ask for it in a society that is fear, hate, money, and personal data driven. Hopefully he is being honest and just another sheep, as karma for the events unfolding in the past decade is surely coming full swing.
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People should leave the man alone.

It was a gun crime carried out by a skinny white kid who loved guns and worshipped them.

Your government is doing the right thing in taking these nasty things away.
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the point of the thread is that nobody is buying into this thing or Rosen's part.

nobody is falling for this and the response is incredible.
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one-star stamp of approval. thanks bro
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Here is 5 stars. The collateral damage being done by the wars since 2000-01 start is astounding. The new death toll and cost cannot be compared to Vietnam or Korean Wars as it is coming in the bleeding form of innocents caught in the cross fire and fuel for sparking the majority in preplanned emotions.
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People should leave the man alone.

It was a gun crime carried out by a skinny white kid who loved guns and worshipped them.

Your government is doing the right thing in taking these nasty things away.
 Quoting: Muhammad 17601732


The man said himself he asked for it...

Secondly, the kid has grown up in the first generation to be completely exposed to video game violence and the over use of psyciatric drugs on children (and adults, US vets in particular).

Our governemnt is following the footsteps of Nazi Germany and Stalin. Ask an austrailian how their gun ban went... Enjoy the euro collapse, we Americans will stand strong and potentially repeat Lincoln's presidency in the name of freedom, which we still barely enjoy.
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This is one of the big problems in any situation or crisis.

People don't understand the "fog of War" phenomenon in real terms, so when they here conflicting data they can't put it into perspective. Ergo, it must be a lie.

What they don't understand is that the modern press changes what people say, for a host of reasons (not all of them sinister at all, most just having to do with the best sound bite and time constraints) which can totally change the apparent meaning of what was said.

A man takes in some kids during an emergency and recounts his story.

In one place he talks about the six kids (the total) and in another mentions five. He could have misspoken, or it could be the remainder of the children or an account of what only five of them did, but lacking thew whole story people at home can't see it.

So obviously the man is not telling the truth, right? You can check the tape! Six in one place, five in another... Sinister!

And we know what lies mean right? In a case like this, it has to mean the worst thing possible. Always.

Except of course, that it doesn't really.

Sometimes the press just reports the wrong thing. Sometimes they make stuff up for a better story and often witnesses say things that make sense to them, but not to the people at home, that weren't there.
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One of the most important aspects of investigating conspiracy theories, is having the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

It's good to ask questions, and not blindly believe everything you're told.....but we must be able to recognize the fact that not everything is a staged hoax.
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the point of the thread is that nobody is buying into this thing or Rosen's part.

nobody is falling for this and the response is incredible.
 Quoting: Salt


People really are starting to wake up to the possibility of this being a government executed false-flag to garner up support for gun control.

Saw a bunch of people posting videos regarding questioning the events of that day. From people who normally eat what the MSM feeds them on a daily basis.

Horribly executed government hoax.
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Fuck that lieing piece of shit. Was it 5 or 6? Oh, he just forgot, how convenient. Hey, I've got a bridge to sell you.
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This is one of the big problems in any situation or crisis.

People don't understand the "fog of War" phenomenon in real terms, so when they here conflicting data they can't put it into perspective. Ergo, it must be a lie.

What they don't understand is that the modern press changes what people say, for a host of reasons (not all of them sinister at all, most just having to do with the best sound bite and time constraints) which can totally change the apparent meaning of what was said.

A man takes in some kids during an emergency and recounts his story.

In one place he talks about the six kids (the total) and in another mentions five. He could have misspoken, or it could be the remainder of the children or an account of what only five of them did, but lacking thew whole story people at home can't see it.

So obviously the man is not telling the truth, right? You can check the tape! Six in one place, five in another... Sinister!

And we know what lies mean right? In a case like this, it has to mean the worst thing possible. Always.

Except of course, that it doesn't really.

Sometimes the press just reports the wrong thing. Sometimes they make stuff up for a better story and often witnesses say things that make sense to them, but not to the people at home, that weren't there.
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Very well said!
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This guy is as fake as a 3 dollar bill.


His story is crap. Another loose end.


He deserves what he gets.
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People should leave the man alone.

It was a gun crime carried out by a skinny white kid who loved guns and worshipped them.

Your government is doing the right thing in taking these nasty things away.
 Quoting: Muhammad 17601732


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Re: Man who helped Sandy Hook kids is harassed by conspiracy theorists
One of the most important aspects of investigating conspiracy theories, is having the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

It's good to ask questions, and not blindly believe everything you're told.....but we must be able to recognize the fact that not everything is a staged hoax.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


No one is denying that it happened.

But more people are questioning the true events of that day.

Assault rifle? No assault rifle?

One shooter? Two shooters?

Teacher locked kids in classroom or bathroom?

Lots of contradictory "official" accounts from that day lend to question, "Who the fuck is trying to cover something up? Are the police and FBI literally and actually that goddamn retarded that they can't even perform a routine investigation?"

This is what the media SHOULD be asking.

But they don't.

Hence the "conspiracy theorists". The people have taken up the journalistic mantle of responsibly questioning the true sequence of events, because the MSM refuses to do so.

So what does the MSM do?

They bash anyone who questions the official story, and they go on to tell the public that anyone who questions anything about that day is an insensitive monster and a lunatic conspiracy theorist.

Fuck the media.

If they did their jobs, we wouldn't have to.
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the point of the thread is that nobody is buying into this thing or Rosen's part.

nobody is falling for this and the response is incredible.
 Quoting: Salt


Really? See what i read into it... was... this kind and good man is being harassed by certain types of people.. he's gonna claim emotional trauma caused conspiracy websites .. and try an sue somebody.. ;)
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Well, than dude shouldnt have lied, and told 2-3 different versions of his story....

Oh, and maybe he should have used a little visine to combat those crocodile tears.
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In my experience, when tragedy hit close to home (aka the WTC 911) it was very easy for me to pick on the government for their hidden knowledge and agenda.

When tragedy hit home, there was no one to pick on because I knew the real story and was in it. No one can tell me and my family what we were going through. The pain, confusion, anger, tears, everything was all real. No conspiracy theory could supercede the truth.

That's just my experience.
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This means one of 2 things:

1. The guy is a fake and the news stories like this are coming out to cast "reasonable doubt" and make people feel bad for doubting the "official" story.

2. The guy is for real and has a really bad memory and the people who are speculating or (conspiracy theorists) should feel bad.

How are we to know unless a 'real' investigative journalist independent from the mainstream news, who is unbiased goes down there and checks it out.

Otherwise it's still speculation.

We are never going to have any certainty of the real truth unfortunately.
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but seriously, nobody should be harassing anyone for any reason. that is definitely not the way to handle the situation.
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One of the most important aspects of investigating conspiracy theories, is having the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

It's good to ask questions, and not blindly believe everything you're told.....but we must be able to recognize the fact that not everything is a staged hoax.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Right... Not everything.

Not like Robbie Parker faking it and getting into character. Or Rosen pretending to cry and never producing any tears. None of them cried tears. They're all lying actors.

These people are some very bad actors.
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One of the most important aspects of investigating conspiracy theories, is having the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

It's good to ask questions, and not blindly believe everything you're told.....but we must be able to recognize the fact that not everything is a staged hoax.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Right... Not everything.

Not like Robbie Parker faking it and getting into character. Or Rosen pretending to cry and never producing any tears. None of them cried tears. They're all lying actors.

These people are some very bad actors.
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Your discernment is lacking....
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People should leave the man alone.

It was a gun crime carried out by a skinny white kid who loved guns and worshipped them.

Your government is doing the right thing in taking these nasty things away.
 Quoting: Muhammad 17601732


WTF??? How the hell do you know what it was, who did it or why?
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but seriously, nobody should be harassing anyone for any reason. that is definitely not the way to handle the situation.
 Quoting: Salt


Yes and it just makes people who are asking questions look worse.
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People should leave the man alone.

It was a gun crime carried out by a skinny white kid who loved guns and worshipped them.

Your government is doing the right thing in taking these nasty things away.
 Quoting: Muhammad 17601732


Wrong. You are a slave minded coward.
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In my experience, when tragedy hit close to home (aka the WTC 911) it was very easy for me to pick on the government for their hidden knowledge and agenda.

When tragedy hit home, there was no one to pick on because I knew the real story and was in it. No one can tell me and my family what we were going through. The pain, confusion, anger, tears, everything was all real. No conspiracy theory could supercede the truth.

That's just my experience.
 Quoting: Water Flower


What do you mean? You started out saying that you agreed that it was a government agenda and then you say "I knew the real story"

What do you mean "No conspiracy theory could supercede the truth" ?

If the conspiracy theory (government hidden agenda) is actually the truth, what do you mean 'supercede' if they are one and the same thing?

Explain.
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Read the yahoo comments and note the ratings...

Thought there were an interesting read, then i came here...
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People should leave the man alone.

It was a gun crime carried out by a skinny white kid who loved guns and worshipped them.

Your government is doing the right thing in taking these nasty things away.
 Quoting: Muhammad 17601732


The man said himself he asked for it...

Secondly, the kid has grown up in the first generation to be completely exposed to video game violence and the over use of psyciatric drugs on children (and adults, US vets in particular).

Our governemnt is following the footsteps of Nazi Germany and Stalin. Ask an austrailian how their gun ban went... Enjoy the euro collapse, we Americans will stand strong and potentially repeat Lincoln's presidency in the name of freedom, which we still barely enjoy.
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Video GaMES LOOK LIKE CRAP they do not look like

Hollywood realistic productions of gun violence
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Fuck that lieing piece of shit. Was it 5 or 6? Oh, he just forgot, how convenient. Hey, I've got a bridge to sell you.
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blackcat He's 69 for crying out loud.
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Re: Man who helped Sandy Hook kids is harassed by conspiracy theorists
One of the most important aspects of investigating conspiracy theories, is having the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

It's good to ask questions, and not blindly believe everything you're told.....but we must be able to recognize the fact that not everything is a staged hoax.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Right... Not everything.

Not like Robbie Parker faking it and getting into character. Or Rosen pretending to cry and never producing any tears. None of them cried tears. They're all lying actors.

These people are some very bad actors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32272519


Your discernment is lacking....
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


None of them cried... Your propaganda is running thin.

Looks like you and your kind have your work cut out for you.

It's going to take a lot to lie your way through this one.

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