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Man who helped Sandy Hook kids is harassed by conspiracy theorists

 
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how could someone think this ~wasnt~ a script? to those not sure, watch this video chuckle

**for some reason, it's not letting me embed. can someone else try?

if link gets taken down, search for: 'Sandy Hook Shooting Hoax "Eyewitness" (Actor?) Gene Rosen'

the video is 13:14 mins long


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We have a business colleague who has seen and done more in a year than most have in a lifetime. He still flies his own plane. He's 81.
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airplane1 He shouldn't be flying at that age he's a danger to the public.

Thread: 67 year old lady from belgium drives 900 miles in the wrong direction before she realized she made a mistake

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I just watched a video this morning about the different "crisis actors" and it seems this old man Rosen is on the "Screen Actor's Guild" website as an actor. I found that most interesting!
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Link?
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5* Salt! Great Thread and info. -

"They made thier bed, now lie in it" - However this is not good for conspiracy theorist's future. The TPTB will feed upon this later. I wonder if other "victims" are getting "harrassed" as well?
**The first step to salvation is to realize that we are all sinners:
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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A quick Web search for Rosen's name reveals some of what he's opened himself up to: Appearing online are photos of his home, his address and phone number, several fake YouTube accounts and plenty of conspiracy theories.

One post, entitled "Grieving Town Grandfather, or Bad 'Crisis Actor,'" reads in part:

Gene's oft repeated, and changing, story about that day, focuses totally on the kids and the sound of gunshots. Even though his eyes and ears should've taken in the whole scene, his story focuses completely on the kids and the guns.

Why? Well, if this was a false flag event designed to move political opinion on gun control, here in America, then you would get a lot more bang for your buck by talking about the innocent little children. That's what tugs on America's heart strings the most ... especially around Christmas time.

[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Salt


And the burning question remains: WHY DID THEY PICK SUCH BAD ACTORS??

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Feel sorry for the guy who is being harrased but he did ask for it in a society that is fear, hate, money, and personal data driven. Hopefully he is being honest and just another sheep, as karma for the events unfolding in the past decade is surely coming full swing.
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Why would you feel sorry for a guy lying through his teeth about children being killed?

bricks
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People should leave the man alone.

It was a gun crime carried out by a skinny white kid who loved guns and worshipped them.

Your government is doing the right thing in taking these nasty things away.
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If you do a search for Gene Rosen on Intellius in Newtown, CT there are 17 results. That's a lot for such a small town!

But then do a search for Rosen Gene, and there is only 1.
[link to www.intelius.com]

Next do a search for Rosen Gene's alias, Gene I. Rosen, and you'll see just 1 result with the same info. That must be him. [link to www.intelius.com]

Photogenec Design LLC is listed as an employer. Then Screen Actors Guild and Zerox. Nothing about being a psyhcologist on Intellius. He must have made that up on his pet sitter resume.

17 Gene Rosen's in a tiny town are too many I think. They must be shitting bricks. Read this article from The Inquisitre.


[link to www.inquisitr.com]
 Quoting: Pale Horse


No, there are not 17 Gene Rosens in Sandy Hook. There are 17 Gene Rosens in the country. Intellius couldn't find any Gene Rosens in Sandy Hook because the guy is in their database as Eugene Rosen. [link to www.intelius.com]
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This is one of the big problems in any situation or crisis.

Blah, blah, blah


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Wow, shill, they gave you a whole script and everything!

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You guys have it wrong. Children died. there were open casket funerals. This thing is much deeper than you realize. Listen to this:

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anyone who says this is "rehearsed" should remind themselves that news reporters will coach their interview subject, so that they know the questions that are to be asked and have a good idea of what their answers will be. otherwise the interviewee ends up looking like a dunce while stumbling over words which he has trouble choosing.

this is a regular practice in news media, and i and friends of mind have been through this, being interviewed for the news, for reasons both tragic and not.
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putin

it's ok to be skeptical but really...some people need to be locked away, for real
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One of the most important aspects of investigating conspiracy theories, is having the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

It's good to ask questions, and not blindly believe everything you're told.....but we must be able to recognize the fact that not everything is a staged hoax.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


I thought better of you. My bad.

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Havent really done much digging on the sandy hook crap because by aurora I already decided the government had their own agenda (as last year I watched food inc, forks over knives, and countless videos and stories on 9 eleven's false flag).

I think this guy could be truthful but like I said, I havent done any research myself besides the initial reports that came about 2 or 3 shooters, 2 running by the gym, one man arrested in the woods, the police scanner saying multiple shooters, and the ar15 footage of the trunk in the parking lot. That all aside, where are the surveilance videos from the school and colorado's movie theater. Without those, the government and anyone saying this was a sick kid and a slack gun law can shove it.

Feel sorry for the guy who is being harrased but he did ask for it in a society that is fear, hate, money, and personal data driven. Hopefully he is being honest and just another sheep, as karma for the events unfolding in the past decade is surely coming full swing.
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True. Karma this year is important. 2013 Should be the year you take a look at your life and repair your karma.
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a real aggrieved or injured party would file in a civil court and get an injunction against his harrassers - of course discovery phase and cross would not be good for psyops
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You guys have it wrong. Children died. there were open casket funerals. This thing is much deeper than you realize. Listen to this:

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1580336


Look, I pretty much despise the government and see we're on the path to communism(slavery) but I can't take anyone seriously who believes Obama is all to blame.

I do think children died. I do think our government is THAT ruthless. Just like kids died in Columbine and on 9/11.

Obama doesn't have a monopoly on evil, contrary to what many brainwashed still want to believe. Bush was.just.as.bad!
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I just watched a video this morning about the different "crisis actors" and it seems this old man Rosen is on the "Screen Actor's Guild" website as an actor. I found that most interesting!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32257992


Rosen also looks pretty much identical to one of those sinister "nuns". The shorter one.

damned
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the point of the thread is that nobody is buying into this thing or Rosen's part.

nobody is falling for this and the response is incredible.
 Quoting: Salt


Really? See what i read into it... was... this kind and good man is being harassed by certain types of people.. he's gonna claim emotional trauma caused conspiracy websites .. and try an sue somebody.. ;)
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Nice try. The last thing Rosen's gonna do is SUE anyone. He doesn't want to draw any more attention to his FRAUDULENT ACTIONS than he already has.

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We are never going to have any certainty of the real truth unfortunately.
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You know, it's heartening to see so many shills coming out for this topic. That means we are going in the RIGHT direction and asking the RIGHT questions. Good job, OP!

hf
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One of the most important aspects of investigating conspiracy theories, is having the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

It's good to ask questions, and not blindly believe everything you're told.....but we must be able to recognize the fact that not everything is a staged hoax.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Right... Not everything.

Not like Robbie Parker faking it and getting into character. Or Rosen pretending to cry and never producing any tears. None of them cried tears. They're all lying actors.

These people are some very bad actors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32272519


Your discernment is lacking....
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Heisenberg, maybe you're just a super-nice guy who can't imagine anyone lying about something like this. I hope that's the case. You seem somewhat together on other topics.
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This means one of 2 things:

1. The guy is a fake and the news stories like this are coming out to cast "reasonable doubt" and make people feel bad for doubting the "official" story.

2. The guy is for real and has a really bad memory and the people who are speculating or (conspiracy theorists) should feel bad.

How are we to know unless a 'real' investigative journalist independent from the mainstream news, who is unbiased goes down there and checks it out.

Otherwise it's still speculation.

We are never going to have any certainty of the real truth unfortunately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1034800


This guy lives next door to the firehouse and claims he had no idea what was going on for the next 30 minutes, to hours (by one of his eyewitness accounts)during the time he kept the kids in his house while they looked out the window at the firehouse and said "I want my mommy"

His story is that a bus driver, and a tall thin man who was yelling orders at the kids, picked the kids up during the shooting, and dropped them off at the creepy seeming stranger's house. (A house that may or may not have had a driveway full of police cars right after the incident)

Then his story gets a little hazy in how he got the kids to their parents. Sometimes he says he got the phone numbers from the bus company dispatcher, sometimes he says he took them back to the firehouse.

How long did he have those kids?

Who was that with the kids?

Why did they have those kids?

Why did they drop them off at his house, instead of the safe area they passed (firehouse) on the way over to his house?


What about all these videos? Here's one
2 Screaming Boys Over Near Gene Rosen's House And Gunshots After Police Arrived: Sandy Hook
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I agree that there may be a conspiracy here. The way the govt is going for the guns, just like all the "conspiracy theorists" said they would IMMEDIATELY when sandy hook happened, is just one more piece of possible corroborating evidence.

However, take just a moment and think about this.... really think about it--


WHAT MAKES YOU BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT WOULDN'T HIRE SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY KILL A BUNCH OF KIDS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS GOAL?

That's number one. And if that's the case, weird as this guy and his story may seem, he could be legit.

Number two-- even if he is an actor, a liar, and guilty as sin, does not mean that "we" (pronounced yuh'-ooh) don't have the "right" to harass him... especially until or unless there is more solid evidence of his involvement in some kind of cover-up.

You could inadvertently become a "useful idiot." Think about it-- do you want to give them the ammo they need to pass the "Releasing the name of or harassing the victims of crisis victims and participants act" whereby it becomes illegal to even release the names of these people? You really think such a law is beyond them, with the way everything else regarding this case is handled?

I urge you all-- discuss this to your heart's content. Come up with ANY evidence you can find and publish it far and wide. But DO NOT cross the line of harassing private citizens who may or may not be innocent. That can only possibly make the "conspiracy theorists" look like assholes-- potentially dangerous ones, at that.

Something I hope you will all consider.
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Read the yahoo comments and note the ratings...

Thought there were an interesting read, then i came here...
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Looking at his photo there just made me wonder: What type of person would DO something like this?

Imagine someone coming to you and saying "Hey, I'll do X, Y, & Z for/to you if you lie about a bunch of kids showing up on your driveway, saying they've just witnessed an awful crime."

Your immediate reaction, if you're normal is "Who the HELL are you, and what the HELL are you talking about? Get the HELL away from me!"

Do you think the luciferians said to these actors "You're not really hurting anyone. You're talking about children who weren't actually killed at all!"

Who would fall for that??

ogrrr
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but seriously, nobody should be harassing anyone for any reason. that is definitely not the way to handle the situation.
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I agree. I don't buy this guy's story. He seems unstable, and attention seeking. Look at how many articles (published before the school shootings) he has been interviewed in for the local paper. That being said, harassing this man plays right into their hands: "Oh! Look at that poor old Good Samaritan Grandpa being stalked by those unhinged conspiracy theorists!" The best thing to do is leave him alone and let him continue to talk. If he brings a lawsuit against one of the harassers, public opinion will side with the caring Grandfather figure... even if deep down they believe otherwise.
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Feel sorry for the guy who is being harrased but he did ask for it in a society that is fear, hate, money, and personal data driven. Hopefully he is being honest and just another sheep, as karma for the events unfolding in the past decade is surely coming full swing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14873148


Why would you feel sorry for a guy lying through his teeth about children being killed?

bricks
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One of the most important aspects of investigating conspiracy theories, is having the discernment to know when there is no conspiracy.

It's good to ask questions, and not blindly believe everything you're told.....but we must be able to recognize the fact that not everything is a staged hoax.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Hey man...the story is complete horseshit. This event has more holes than 9/11.
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Fuck that lieing piece of shit. Was it 5 or 6? Oh, he just forgot, how convenient. Hey, I've got a bridge to sell you.
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:blackcat: He's 69 for crying out loud.
 Quoting: Judethz


So what?

He needs to get his story straight, or admit he's a liar.
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Read the yahoo comments and note the ratings...

Thought there were an interesting read, then i came here...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27879171


Wow, there are a TON of gullible people out there!

What does it mean that the media, police, president, etc. can lie about 20 children being killed, and your average Jane/Joe doesn't run down the facts? I mean, that's a pretty serious scenario!

Because, if you devote a few minutes to tracking down the facts we have about Sandy Hook so far, you'll see that NO ONE was killed, including a "gunman."

What does it say about our society that the majority fall for this BS hook, line, and sinker?
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Well HOW DID THE GUY GUY READ THE NAMES OFF THE CASUALTY LIST AT 6 PM FRIDAY NIGHT IF THE CASUALTY LIST WASN'T RELEASED TILL THE NEXT DAY IN THE AFTERNOON?
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Because he was in on it?
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Right... Not everything.

Not like Robbie Parker faking it and getting into character. Or Rosen pretending to cry and never producing any tears. None of them cried tears. They're all lying actors.

These people are some very bad actors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32272519


Your discernment is lacking....
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


None of them cried... Your propaganda is running thin.

Looks like you and your kind have your work cut out for you.

It's going to take a lot to lie your way through this one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32272519


That makes no sense whatsoever.

Me and my kind? A lot of lies to work through?

I don't really care what you believe, I am only giving you friendly advice to up your discernment skills.

Play the What's more likely game.

Is it more likely that:

A)The government, at a huge huge risk, set the whole thing up, the people may or may not be dead, and everyone is in on it including crisis actors all to try and get a ban on semi auto firearms...

or

B)The government as Rham Emanuel said, will use tragedies to push an agenda. Not let it go to waste. A real tragedy happened and they pounce all over it, to try and further their agenda. Then, no risk to them, no needing to keep secrets, no trying to keep a whole town isolated from the rest of the country to keep them from talking. They can use the media to cover the story 24/7 to keep it in the publics mind.


Any sane rational thinker would choose B.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


What's more likely, that a bunch of people got killed, but there's not one tiny little shred of concrete proof, or that our lunatic government pulled another 9/11?

Three guesses and the first two don't count.

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