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Man who helped Sandy Hook kids is harassed by conspiracy theorists

 
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None of them cried... Your propaganda is running thin.

Looks like you and your kind have your work cut out for you.

It's going to take a lot to lie your way through this one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32272519


That makes no sense whatsoever.

Me and my kind? A lot of lies to work through?

I don't really care what you believe, I am only giving you friendly advice to up your discernment skills.

Play the What's more likely game.

Is it more likely that:

A)The government, at a huge huge risk, set the whole thing up, the people may or may not be dead, and everyone is in on it including crisis actors all to try and get a ban on semi auto firearms...

or

B)The government as Rham Emanuel said, will use tragedies to push an agenda. Not let it go to waste. A real tragedy happened and they pounce all over it, to try and further their agenda. Then, no risk to them, no needing to keep secrets, no trying to keep a whole town isolated from the rest of the country to keep them from talking. They can use the media to cover the story 24/7 to keep it in the publics mind.


Any sane rational thinker would choose B.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


What's more likely, that a bunch of people got killed, but there's not one tiny little shred of concrete proof, or that our lunatic government pulled another 9/11?

Three guesses and the first two don't count.
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Sorry man, I had to leave the office for a bit, didn't see your responses.

Anyway, I just don't believe that this is a hoax. For many reasons.

I do fully believe the government will and is taking full advantage of the tragedy to push through their anti gun agenda. They have openly admitted that they will not let a good crisis go to waste.

It doesn't add up to me being a hoax. The amount of people who would be in on it would be quite large. It would be a huge risk to stage such an event. When it's sooo simple for "them" to wait for a nut to pull something off, and then put 24/7 media coverage on it. Have talking heads start calling for gun control, etc etc

As for the first reports changing after some time passed, the way the news works now a days, every media outlet wants to be the first one on the scene, wants to be the first to report new info. So they start reporting rumors before facts come out, then must go back and cover their tracks from reporting rumors.

That is how the media has operated the past few yrs. It increasingly gets worse.

Also I cannot and will not believe it's a hoax based on interviewees not crying, or acting strange. Anyone who has been through a tragedy understands there is no "norm" to how people react. There's a wide range of strange behavior people express when going through something like this.

9-11 is quite different. There are many material facts about that case that just don't make sense.

Also, it's not like I have slammed shut the story, and no longer am willing to hear/see new evidence. But to this point my thoughts are that it is not a hoax, but being used.

Listen, I could be wrong. I am not soo arrogant as to claim I am all knowing, I just have my own ways of discerning truth from fiction, and this case doesn't hit as a hoax to me.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


There are some diehards out there who maintain the entire thing was a hoax, soup to nuts. Nobody died, everybody in on it, John Goodman as the M.E., or Paul Vance.

This is all easily debunked. I live in Ct. I know Vance and Carver to be real, actual officials.

That being said, this has all the trademarks of a false flag. I've spent untold hours looking in to this. I consider myself a person of discernment. Take a look at my threads, if you like, and judge for yourself.

You seem to hint at 9/11 being a false flag. Yet in the case of Sandy Hook, you consider the government to be merely opportunistic, capitalizing on a disaster that was not of their making.

So why didn't the government just wait for terrorists w/ box cutters to crash planes into nat'l landmarks?

I'm not here to say "the government did it to enact gun control." I don't know who did it, or why.

I just doubt key elements of the official story.

If my doubts are correct, that would, by definition, indicate a conspiracy.

Not everybody down to the kids' aunts and uncles had to be in on it.
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Yes, Rosen is probably an actor in the situation, and they are playing it up- it's a bad move to attack him- now they're going to start saying conspiracy theorist say no children died, when there is ample proof that they did-

I am going to post this interview later on today in it's own thread when i have time- but this is an interview with a woman that lives 4 miles away from the school...she's monitored everything she can, knows some survivors, etc- kids really died! But that doesn't mean actors and staging were not involved. This is a satanic ritual folks! The whole point of it being a ritual sacrifice is that they actually do, really kill people!


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1271534


i am not convinced that anybody died, especially children.

there is photographic evidence that suggests the kids were very much alive after the alleged shooting.

i think it makes it easier for actors to get on board and stay on board if there are no actual murders involved.

remember, these people think the general population are complete idiots and they are superior in intellect that most.
 Quoting: Salt




Listen to the lady in the interview- kids died, they are in the phone book- she went to open casket funerals!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1271534



rather- their families are in the phone book...to add...the photo evidence, whether it's some of the well-aware guys or others is couched within this, but actual kids died- and we're not talking about Emily Parker...but she states- there have been convoys of cars outside the parkers...the parker equation may be staged and he is an asset, but other families lost kids. It's a ritual...why wouldn't it be? So 3K didn't die on 9/11 either- there were no planes?

Give the evidence here that you state- if there is anything new I'd love to see it, but it doesn't negate what this resident is stating-
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Anybody can STATE anything.
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People should leave the man alone.

It was a gun crime carried out by a skinny white kid who loved guns and worshipped them.

Your government is doing the right thing in taking these nasty things away.
 Quoting: Muhammad 17601732


WTF??? How the hell do you know what it was, who did it or why?
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


because the T.V. told him who it was.
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Re: Man who helped Sandy Hook kids is harassed by conspiracy theorists
but seriously, nobody should be harassing anyone for any reason. that is definitely not the way to handle the situation.
 Quoting: Salt


Yes and it just makes people who are asking questions look worse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1034800


IF these idiots who are making these calls don't stop harassing the victims and witnesses, sites like these are going down babaaaay! Just saying....
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Wrong. But nice try. Please play again!
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The kids that were being interviewed outside the school didn't act scared at all. If people had really been shot the kids would have been terrified. This past event is pure magic.
 Quoting: jack of all trades


If there were kids crying and scared I don't believe the parents of those children would have allowed the media to interview them. Also, the incident happened primarily at the front section of the school. I would think kids in the other sections of the school didn't see or hear much
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We've seen the Victoria Soto class picture.

We know which kids they've told us died.

Rosen said the kids in his home were Soto's so that means we know their faces at least.

Couldn't the media, or Rosen, or these families in CT who want to quash any conspiracy just do a happy reunion of the kids and their grandfather keeper?

I mean, the guy is supposedly a HERO, right? So why wouldn't the parents want to thank him for what he did for their kids?
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I will preface this that Im not saying SH was a psyops, but the visual evidence of the reactions of several people is disconcerting.
Perhaps we're only witnessing people who seek the spotlight and are emotionally stunted.
While those who are beyond bereft are still curled up in balls of anguish at home.
IDK.



[link to bodyodd.nbcnews.com]

"
We know our faces may give away our fibs -- whether it's shifty eyes, a sweaty upper lip, a slight smirk, or Pinocchio's fictitious lengthening nose.
Now a new study reveals that muscles in the upper face may divulge when people are not telling the truth. Researchers found four different facial muscles that a trained eye can use to separate genuine expressions of emotion from deceptive ones.
"Facial cues are an important, but often ignored, aspect of credibiity assessments where an emotional issue is in question," says study author Dr. Leanne ten Brinke."

Nonverbal behaviour are not as easily censored or
disguised as the content of speech (Darwin, 1872)


Darwin suggested that muscles that are difficult to voluntarily activate
might escape efforts to inhibit or mask expression, revealing true feelings.
“[W]hen movements, associated through habit with certain states of the
mind, are partially repressed by the will, the strictly involuntary muscles, as
well as those which are least under the separate control of the will, are liable
still to act; and their action is often highly expressive (p. 54).” The same idea
in somewhat different words: “A man when moderately angry, or even when
enraged, may command the movements of his body, but . . . those muscles of
the face which are least obedient to the will, will sometimes alone betray a
slight and passing emotion” (p. 79).

[link to www.evenhappier.com]
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We've seen the Victoria Soto class picture.

We know which kids they've told us died.

Rosen said the kids in his home were Soto's so that means we know their faces at least.

Couldn't the media, or Rosen, or these families in CT who want to quash any conspiracy just do a happy reunion of the kids and their grandfather keeper?

I mean, the guy is supposedly a HERO, right? So why wouldn't the parents want to thank him for what he did for their kids?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25254305


good point


you know, how hard is it to utilize a few first graders for the first semester of their first year in school. i mean, it's not like these kids have a long history with the school district.

nobody died. the kids were plants.
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here's the thing that people are missing: kids WERE killed. there are real grieving parents. the entire school was not in on it.

the people who WERE in on it (anyone who appears to be acting) are not a liability because they are either programmed or satanists or both.

there's STRONG evidence of Newtown being a heavily satanic town. Vicky Soto is in a picture with a satanist giving a satanic hand gesture. look it up

they moved some programmed people from places like Florida to Newtown in the months prior to the shooting. the majority of the people in that school probably have nothing to do with the conspiracy. but the people who appear to be acting (Parker family, Soto family, etc) are programmed and/or have ties to satanism.
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the point of the thread is that nobody is buying into this thing or Rosen's part.

nobody is falling for this and the response is incredible.
 Quoting: Salt


you are an idiot.
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We've seen the Victoria Soto class picture.

We know which kids they've told us died.

Rosen said the kids in his home were Soto's so that means we know their faces at least.

Couldn't the media, or Rosen, or these families in CT who want to quash any conspiracy just do a happy reunion of the kids and their grandfather keeper?

I mean, the guy is supposedly a HERO, right? So why wouldn't the parents want to thank him for what he did for their kids?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25254305


good point


you know, how hard is it to utilize a few first graders for the first semester of their first year in school. i mean, it's not like these kids have a long history with the school district.

nobody died. the kids were plants.
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What easier way than to be new to town. Newtown.

Thread: Recently relocated to Sandy Hook
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the point of the thread is that nobody is buying into this thing or Rosen's part.

nobody is falling for this and the response is incredible.
 Quoting: Salt


you are an idiot.
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bite me, shill
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Right... Not everything.

Not like Robbie Parker faking it and getting into character. Or Rosen pretending to cry and never producing any tears. None of them cried tears. They're all lying actors.

These people are some very bad actors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32272519


Your discernment is lacking....
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


None of them cried... Your propaganda is running thin.

Looks like you and your kind have your work cut out for you.

It's going to take a lot to lie your way through this one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32272519


That makes no sense whatsoever.

Me and my kind? A lot of lies to work through?

I don't really care what you believe, I am only giving you friendly advice to up your discernment skills.

Play the What's more likely game.

Is it more likely that:

A)The government, at a huge huge risk, set the whole thing up, the people may or may not be dead, and everyone is in on it including crisis actors all to try and get a ban on semi auto firearms...

or

B)The government as Rham Emanuel said, will use tragedies to push an agenda. Not let it go to waste. A real tragedy happened and they pounce all over it, to try and further their agenda. Then, no risk to them, no needing to keep secrets, no trying to keep a whole town isolated from the rest of the country to keep them from talking. They can use the media to cover the story 24/7 to keep it in the publics mind.


Any sane rational thinker would choose B.
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*

its both
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This gene dude is a whiny old fart who was so pleased with his made for tv performance he couldn't help but over act his part.

He's phony, fake, silly, odd, weird, gay, and full of shit. Look how he holds his lips like some kinda weirdo pedo.

Ya, I gathered everyone into my house and gave them teddy bears and juice. FUCK YOU WEIRDO.
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the point of the thread is that nobody is buying into this thing or Rosen's part.

nobody is falling for this and the response is incredible.
 Quoting: Salt


you are an idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32296010


bite me, shill
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to know one
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wow an actor.... may be another gene rosen but then again maybe not....


here is another thing to research.... does gene rent or own his home near the firestation..... how long has he resided there and who lived there before he di?
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great questions, that need to be answered.
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the point of the thread is that nobody is buying into this thing or Rosen's part.

nobody is falling for this and the response is incredible.
 Quoting: Salt


you are an idiot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32296010


bite me, shill
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it takes one
to know one
burnit
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that comeback went out in the first grade.
but thanks for playing.
game over.
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That makes me feel bad for him, I haven't looked into the whole story..but I'm open minded that it could be a whole staged thing. I do remember this guys portion on the news and it did look like he was affected. He did give me a little bit of a grandpa vibe, like he had a heart and these kids showed up on his driveway and he was just trying to help. I feel for him, and I mean..an e-mail is not really that big of a deal. You can just get a new e-mail address or maybe just stop checking your e-mails. This article and many others though, have been trying to make the "conspiracy theorists" look like complete insensitive crackpots, and I've noticed a lot more articles like this lately. Especially in regards to Sandy Hook.
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No the government would never stage Gladio....the government would never stage Fast & Furious....the government would never Drone Strike innocent children.... the government would never stage northwoods....the government would never blow up building 7.... the government would never stage Benghazi..the government would never put formaldehyde in the flu shots....



Go back to sleep, sheep.

For fucks sake this is ALL layed out in the Illuminati playing cards and you sheep still can't see what's going on?

Maybe kids did die, who knows? But it DAMN SURE DIDN'T GO DOWN LIKE THEY SAY IT DID.
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It's fine for the "EVERYTHING is a CONSPIRACY" people to come to sites like this and spout your opinions.
However...
You cross the line into near dangerous insanity when you go and harass people.
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This poor guy was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time and he winds up the victim of internet gang stalking, fearing for his life with his personal info posted all over the web.

If this was happening to anyone inside the Conspiracy Theory community you guys would be screaming bloody murder.
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I feel for him, and I mean..an e-mail is not really that big of a deal. You can just get a new e-mail address or maybe just stop checking your e-mails.
 Quoting: Holldoll


Right. Would you feel this was "just an email" if this was happening to you?

This article and many others though, have been trying to make the "conspiracy theorists" look like complete insensitive crackpots, and I've noticed a lot more articles like this lately. Especially in regards to Sandy Hook.
 Quoting: Holldoll


The media doesn't need to skew the reporting to make Sandy Hook "truthers" look like insensitive crackpots.
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This poor guy was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time and he winds up the victim of internet gang stalking, fearing for his life with his personal info posted all over the web.

If this was happening to anyone inside the Conspiracy Theory community you guys would be screaming bloody murder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


Yea because 'Yahoo' is 'real' news....

This is the same website that told us Obama was God 2 months ago.

Short term memory will kill you.
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I feel for him, and I mean..an e-mail is not really that big of a deal. You can just get a new e-mail address or maybe just stop checking your e-mails.
 Quoting: Holldoll


Right. Would you feel this was "just an email" if this was happening to you?

This article and many others though, have been trying to make the "conspiracy theorists" look like complete insensitive crackpots, and I've noticed a lot more articles like this lately. Especially in regards to Sandy Hook.
 Quoting: Holldoll


The media doesn't need to skew the reporting to make Sandy Hook "truthers" look like insensitive crackpots.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


Hey, if he doesn't like it, pursue harrasment charges.

But he won't.
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I feel for him, and I mean..an e-mail is not really that big of a deal. You can just get a new e-mail address or maybe just stop checking your e-mails.
 Quoting: Holldoll


Right. Would you feel this was "just an email" if this was happening to you?

This article and many others though, have been trying to make the "conspiracy theorists" look like complete insensitive crackpots, and I've noticed a lot more articles like this lately. Especially in regards to Sandy Hook.
 Quoting: Holldoll


The media doesn't need to skew the reporting to make Sandy Hook "truthers" look like insensitive crackpots.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


Hey, if he doesn't like it, pursue harrasment charges.

But he won't.
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


Excellent comment.
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You people are very, very sick. You all have mental conditions.

God help us. I blame all of you for the demise of this country with your stupid bs conspiracy theories.

Oh, and bite me.
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SO, my neighbor is 86 and has a memory sharp as a tack.

I'm sure that soon there will be a story coming out that he is suffering from beginning stages of Alzhemers and thats why he can't keep his story straight.
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My opa is 73 and he messes up stories and names all the time
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opa. fuck that stupid shithead. opa
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Isn't opa Dutch for Grandfather? Your hacking on someone's Grandfather? Jeeze chill man.
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you have a death's head for an avatar. are you a nazi, a psycho, or a pimply kid?
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It's fine for the "EVERYTHING is a CONSPIRACY" people to come to sites like this and spout your opinions.
However...
You cross the line into near dangerous insanity when you go and harass people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18012248


So, who exactly is harassing him, and how are they doing it? By emails he said he received? Let's see 'em.
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Unfortunately in this case Yahoo is a more reliable source of information than much of the "alternative" news. What is circulating on the CTs sites is full of distortion, fabrication and the outright ridiculous.

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