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Greenscreens used for sandy hook?

 
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if you wanted to use an actor to pose as a coroner, how would you do it? with a real actor standing in front of the media and real police? No! what if he forgot his lines, or a policeman recognised he wasn't a coroner, or a policeman contradicted the actor's fake information, etc. etc. Even if you used actors as policemen, what if a police patrol drove past and realised they were fake. it's too dangerous!

how to do it? use a greenscreen. the cg background would be a composite of actors dressed as policeman.

did they do this? I don't know. BUT IT SEEMS SUSPICIOUS THAT DESPITE ALL THOSE CAMERMEN IN FRONT OF THE CORONER, I HAVE ONLY SEEN ONE INTERVIEW FROM ONE ANGLE.

please contradict me and post links to videos that are taken from a different angle.
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Re: Greenscreens used for sandy hook?
so i guess there's no other angles for footage, there are only some from different angles for just photos.

smoking gun we're looking at composite.

in case you're wondering about what I mean about greenscreens, take a look at this book on page 498.

[link to books.google.com.au]

anyway, so how would the coroner's video be done?

They would have pictures of a man's body and lab coat from many different angles. Then they would have a 3d model of a head placed on top of that. Then an actor (such as John Goodman) would say the lines wearing something green to hide his forehead and neck (note John Goodman's forehead is very different to the coroner's but that does not mean it is not John Goodman). This face footage would be placed over the body and 3d model of a head. The head and body would be selected to match the footage.

This method explains why he does some weird transitions (he laughs and his head does 360 motion). It is because they are splicing together footage and this bad animation is meant to mask the transition.

They probably asked John Goodman to answer a number of different questions addressing different scenarios so he would not know what event is coming up.

How to show this? They probably reused footage/frames so you could match frames up that way. eg. if they have x minutes of korean camera lady footage, and they show her for y minutes, and y>x, then they probably reused parts of the footage.
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Re: Greenscreens used for sandy hook?
Yup, that "coroner" interview is weird, just like everything else about this incident. Just like 9/11, we're only being fed photos and videos from a single unnamed source... when there should be dozens of variations of the same photos and videos from different news outlets.
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Yup, that "coroner" interview is weird, just like everything else about this incident. Just like 9/11, we're only being fed photos and videos from a single unnamed source... when there should be dozens of variations of the same photos and videos from different news outlets.
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Wow, so the entire thing is a video created hoax?
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Re: Greenscreens used for sandy hook?
Yup, that "coroner" interview is weird, just like everything else about this incident. Just like 9/11, we're only being fed photos and videos from a single unnamed source... when there should be dozens of variations of the same photos and videos from different news outlets.
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Wow, so the entire thing is a video created hoax?
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Yes, this is what I believe also after hours of thinking about this. However I am not a professional and know very little about camera's etc.

Thanks for this thread...good thoughts.hf
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Even the 911 tapes could have been pre recorded and the helicopter footage...it really did look very much like an EMS drill my husband was a part of at one time.
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Re: Greenscreens used for sandy hook?
I have noticed lately that they are doing this more and more especially commercials now seem very off if you have not watched TV in a while....

There is one of a famous actress who designs jewelry, when you watch it her head is moving, but too large for the body it is sitting on, the body looks just a little too cartoonish....

I'm sure most who are looking for abnormalities have noticed this.
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if you wanted to use an actor to pose as a coroner, how would you do it? with a real actor standing in front of the media and real police? No! what if he forgot his lines, or a policeman recognised he wasn't a coroner, or a policeman contradicted the actor's fake information, etc. etc. Even if you used actors as policemen, what if a police patrol drove past and realised they were fake. it's too dangerous!

how to do it? use a greenscreen. the cg background would be a composite of actors dressed as policeman.

did they do this? I don't know. BUT IT SEEMS SUSPICIOUS THAT DESPITE ALL THOSE CAMERMEN IN FRONT OF THE CORONER, I HAVE ONLY SEEN ONE INTERVIEW FROM ONE ANGLE.

please contradict me and post links to videos that are taken from a different angle.
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Good catch, Bazza!
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That was interesting reading op:

"A crowd generated by replicating elements" ...wow, it says they only had 50 extra's to make that crowd! That is amazing, it looks like tens of thousands...

dasbier Here is to Foster's beer mate!

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Re: Greenscreens used for sandy hook?
so i guess there's no other angles for footage, there are only some from different angles for just photos.

smoking gun we're looking at composite.

in case you're wondering about what I mean about greenscreens, take a look at this book on page 498.

[link to books.google.com.au]

anyway, so how would the coroner's video be done?

They would have pictures of a man's body and lab coat from many different angles. Then they would have a 3d model of a head placed on top of that. Then an actor (such as John Goodman) would say the lines wearing something green to hide his forehead and neck (note John Goodman's forehead is very different to the coroner's but that does not mean it is not John Goodman). This face footage would be placed over the body and 3d model of a head. The head and body would be selected to match the footage.

This method explains why he does some weird transitions (he laughs and his head does 360 motion). It is because they are splicing together footage and this bad animation is meant to mask the transition.

They probably asked John Goodman to answer a number of different questions addressing different scenarios so he would not know what event is coming up.

How to show this? They probably reused footage/frames so you could match frames up that way. eg. if they have x minutes of korean camera lady footage, and they show her for y minutes, and y>x, then they probably reused parts of the footage.
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Why would John Goodman betray us this way? At some point they could not trust these so called actors to be silent. The crafty can always get the word out etc.

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Re: Greenscreens used for sandy hook?
There is a video suggesting this and showing how it can be done easily. Can't post the link but look on YouTube for sandy hook studios.
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Re: Greenscreens used for sandy hook?
CNN B Control Studio (authorized personnel only)

Maybe we should form a meet up and ask for a tour?


What does B mean I wonder?
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Re: Greenscreens used for sandy hook?
Maybe we're witnessing a MSM revolt. Where the actors are tired of the lies and the anchors are sick of it too. Maybe that is why this is so sloppy so more than just those tired conspiracy theorists will see it.

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Here's the video. Hope the link works.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkxYglmlJ3c
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Here's the video. Hope the link works.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkxYglmlJ3c
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WOW
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Re: Greenscreens used for sandy hook?
Here's the video. Hope the link works.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkxYglmlJ3c
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WOW

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzWRg6KfOBE
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Here's the video. Hope the link works.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkxYglmlJ3c
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WOW

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Here's the video. Hope the link works.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkxYglmlJ3c
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WOW

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzWRg6KfOBE

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Re: Greenscreens used for sandy hook?
what's up with the fisheye lens they always use (or fake) for these shots? anyone would think they're trying to hide the difficulties getting perspective of studio shot to match with composite background.

might explain the sexy legs. sexy legs were photo used to get the perspective right. they couldn't just use old lady legs because wouldn't fit fisheye perspective.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdpUbIBgs6Q
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Re: Greenscreens used for sandy hook?
It should be possible with vector analysis to determine if they put the mailbox in the right spot for the second background, ,or whether they fucked up integrating the perspective of the studio and the CG background.

I haven’t done this yet and probably won’t get round to it. Does anyone know university math? Another way would be to try contacting university professors … Stork for example wrote a paper on this kind of analysis for paintins … but how many professors have balls like Tracey?

The other way to check it would be to actually go to that physical location and put some chairs there and try to recreate it.

another option would be to try to build a CG model using google sketchup and google maps or whatever and try recreating that way.


this is wrong unfortunately because of the fisheye perspective. you can't apply the rules of perspective here. for example, the chair arms are parrallel and should conform to a single point on the horizon. but they diverge because of the fisheye lens.

might explain why they set up the chairs in a curve for this shot to make it look more like fisheye lens.

[link to contrailscience.com]
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Re: Greenscreens used for sandy hook?
final note why is there multiple angles for some interviews but not the coroner?

maybe it's because the coroner is partly CG (ie. a composite of John Goodman's face (but not forehead) on a 3d model of a head or whatever). who knows. you'd think if they could do it from one angle they could do it from multiple angles. maybe they shot it differently. maybe that particular angle is conducive for making easy edits to mouth to make it easier to change the lines the "coroner" says quickly.
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Repost:



www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2PCg_ZF1gU

at 4:40 you see a guy looking at his phone (supposedly) but it looks more like they just paused the video.

at 8.07 there is a fed ex disappearing into distance, but because they are trying to give it distortion to fake perspective, it becomes too wide.

at 9.40 the woman walking into distance is so obviously fake. looks exactly like those bad point and click adventure games like darkseed.

great indicator of greenscreen footage – number plates not visible. because if they put real number plates people could track where those vehicles were and know it was fake.

could ask fedex whether they had trucks going down those streets at that time – don’t they have GPS tracking??? and we have exact time and location from the video (supposedly).
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Re: Greenscreens used for sandy hook?
At some point they could not trust these so called actors to be silent.

what if they're pedophiles/satanists who are being blackmailed?

how much money do you think these actors impersonating family will make from those charity funds?

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