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Heaven or Hell? You choose

 
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Their greatest one is the rapture LIE...its going to be interesting to see how far their faith goes when what they had faith IN..AKA..their own COWARDICE..falls apart and is exposed for the total LIE it is.
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Oh AC, you just keep going with the anger and rage. So many like you on this site, and around the world in general.

The rapture is not a lie. It will happen at the 7th trump. God Himself told me.

I hope for your sake that you accept Jesus sooner rather then later.

Peace.
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God himself told you? Lisa this is crazy talk.

chipg thinks god speaks to him too and we all know how that has turned out (over and over and over again)
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Yep, He also told me that I'd be taken up at the end which means it happens in my lifetime.

You don't have to believe me if you don't want to.

Hot dogs cooking.....have to go!

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


i dont see how any sane person could believe you.

i know this will come across as rude but it is not my intent.

i know that you honestly believe that which makes me hope that no one is under your care.

this is scary stuff. please think about what you are saying.
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Lunchtime.....be back later....maybe.

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Maybe you shouldn't come back. Go watch the Wizard of Oz. You have no brain, no heart and no courage. Maybe you need the Wizard of Oz/God. Then when you find him, you will find that he is useless. Thanks for being a coward and not responding to any of my posts, but then I knew you wouldn't. You are such a typical Christian. Run away and hide instead of facing up to the fact that what you believe makes zero sense.
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both heaven and hell are misconceptions due to intermingleing of cultures and poor translations.

Heaven is the sky and space
Hell is the grave.

God defines heaven in Gen 1:8
The greek gods were planets and thier realm was in heaven.
Heaven became known as the realm of the gods, the gods dwelling place, ect.

The planets are no longer considered gods, but heaven is still considered gods dwelling place.
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P.S. Don't choke on them hotdogs, honey.
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Lunchtime.....be back later....maybe.

afro
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Maybe you shouldn't come back. Go watch the Wizard of Oz. You have no brain, no heart and no courage. Maybe you need the Wizard of Oz/God. Then when you find him, you will find that he is useless. Thanks for being a coward and not responding to any of my posts, but then I knew you wouldn't. You are such a typical Christian. Run away and hide instead of facing up to the fact that what you believe makes zero sense.
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AMEN and AMEN!
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Just stopped in Lisa to say hello to you.

hf
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P.S. Don't choke on them hotdogs, honey.
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apparently she can't. it has been prophesied that she will be alive when god lays the hammer down and she will ascend.

in her mind she can do no wrong, god told her the future of herself.
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Good Riddens LISA LISA
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Lunchtime.....be back later....maybe.

afro
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Maybe you shouldn't come back. Go watch the Wizard of Oz. You have no brain, no heart and no courage. Maybe you need the Wizard of Oz/God. Then when you find him, you will find that he is useless. Thanks for being a coward and not responding to any of my posts, but then I knew you wouldn't. You are such a typical Christian. Run away and hide instead of facing up to the fact that what you believe makes zero sense.
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AMEN and AMEN!
 Quoting: JesusIsTheSaviorOfTheWORLD 1479583


Yes, but what you are pushing here makes no sense either. God WILL NOT save everyone because, like it or not, God does not exist. Did you read the post I addressed to you?

You take the Bible and attempt to make a good God out of a deity that kills infants and children. There is a verse in Psalms, I think 138 or something, "Happy is he who takes your little ones and bashes them against the rock." God killed thousands of KIDS in the Bible. And you come here and expect people to believe he is GOOD.

I think someone counted and God killed over 2 million people in the Bible and that is without the flood and Sodom and Gomorrah because no count of people was given in those events. God IS NOT GOOD. Stop making excuses for him. Even Jesus said the road is narrow and FEW find the way. If you think that Jesus will save everyone, I think you are wrong.

You are worshiping an EVIL deity. You have to throw the Bible away to find real truth. You won't find truth in that book. You can't just read the stuff that makes you feel happy and throw away the bad stuff. You would have to toss out over one-half of the Bible!

Think of this. God BLINDED the eyes of the Pharaoh. Why did he not just let the Pharaoh let the people go? He decided instead to blind his eyes so that he could KILL the firstborn among the children of Egypt. Come on. You expect me to believe that THIS horrible monster will save everyone. You may have a better heart than the average Christian who relishes the idea of eternal suffering, but you are still delusional. Sorry, but this is true.
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P.S. Don't choke on them hotdogs, honey.
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apparently she can't. it has been prophesied that she will be alive when god lays the hammer down and she will ascend.

in her mind she can do no wrong, god told her the future of herself.
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LOL, yeah, those grimey hotdogs will kill her before that happens.
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I choose non of the above.
I don't want to be agressive or insulting, but this is pure evil propaganda. The creator of the universe has no intentions to send you into eternal fire, neither the good nor the bad, neither the believer nor the atheist.

God enjoys himself on the simple fact that his creation exists.

Every entity that threatens one with torture and pain is an imposter.
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:applaud1:

I like your style Hans.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Except God proves his word through the Bible, and the Bible clearly does not preach this. I'd do some research on the validity of prophecy and the Bible in general. I say this in all kindness :)
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Yep, He also told me that I'd be taken up at the end which means it happens in my lifetime.

You don't have to believe me if you don't want to.

Hot dogs cooking.....have to go!

hf
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Better tend to your lunch, you don't want to threaten people with 'hell' on an empty stomach! sarcasm1

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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P.S. Don't choke on them hotdogs, honey.
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apparently she can't. it has been prophesied that she will be alive when god lays the hammer down and she will ascend.

in her mind she can do no wrong, god told her the future of herself.
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if she cannot start to think, she will be repeating this grade in school, somewhere else. on another hell world perhaps.
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I was aware of the Christian nature of this topic before I posted, but that wasn't the reason I even bothered replying. It's the sheer elitist and CONDESCENDING attitude that some of you just emanate. I've never posted in a "favorite bible verse" thread or "Christian Brainstorming Thread", or attempted to ridicule you an the basis of your beliefs as other (more immature) un-believers have... This, as with most xTian threads on here was an attack. It's akin to me posting a thread titled "Everyone you've ever loved who has died is gone forever and you will never see them again." Although this is what I believe to probably be true, I don't wake up every morning with the intention of being a condescending dick.
Defending your faith isn't the same as forcing it upon other people.
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And when were you forced to post on this thread? Who held you at gunpoint? It is your choice to believe in Christ or not to believe. It is as simple as that.
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It's not a choice at all. I am unable to believe in burning bushes and talking snakes and other such nonsense. You constantly blame an "enemy of creation" for turning people away from your christ, but fail to realize that it's yourselves who are to blame. Annnnnnnnnnd that's my entire point.
Please learn some decency, or at least some basic communication skills. You cannot convince anyone of anything with threats of violence. Unless you're about to rob a bank or something.
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There are no threats of violence on here. Find them! You want to coax someone into it. I know your methods. They don't work here.


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If you don't think standing on the corner like a lunatic yelling and bantering that people will be tortured by a loving god for eternity isn't a threat of violence, I just don't know how to get through to you.
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Did you notice that LISA LISA did not bother to answer my questions either. Her motto is: "my mind is made up...don't confuse me with the facts."
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I choose non of the above.
I don't want to be agressive or insulting, but this is pure evil propaganda. The creator of the universe has no intentions to send you into eternal fire, neither the good nor the bad, neither the believer nor the atheist.

God enjoys himself on the simple fact that his creation exists.

Every entity that threatens one with torture and pain is an imposter.
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applaud1

I like your style Hans.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Except God proves his word through the Bible, and the Bible clearly does not preach this. I'd do some research on the validity of prophecy and the Bible in general. I say this in all kindness :)
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Been there, done that. The bible doesn't resonate with my spirit/soul so I moved on.

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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You can't choose to believe something, even out of fear. That's called delusion. You're kidding yourself and lying to others.
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God bless you Lisa for posting this. And don't let these fools get you down.
They'll be singing a different tune when they stand before a Holy and Rightious God and have to give account for their lives.
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Maybe we can help one of them to see the truth before it's too late.

hf
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Amen.
And good video - thanks for posting it.
God Bless You
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I choose non of the above.
I don't want to be agressive or insulting, but this is pure evil propaganda. The creator of the universe has no intentions to send you into eternal fire, neither the good nor the bad, neither the believer nor the atheist.

God enjoys himself on the simple fact that his creation exists.

Every entity that threatens one with torture and pain is an imposter.
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Christian fundie lies created a blasphemy against the pure doctrines of Judaism.

Hell never existed in Jewish teachings. Its a evil , made up psycho pathic fairytale.
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both heaven and hell are misconceptions due to intermingleing of cultures and poor translations.

Heaven is the sky and space
Hell is the grave.

God defines heaven in Gen 1:8
The greek gods were planets and thier realm was in heaven.
Heaven became known as the realm of the gods, the gods dwelling place, ect.

The planets are no longer considered gods, but heaven is still considered gods dwelling place.
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A+++

Only the uneducated would believe in a literal hell of torment. It was a illustration that turned into mistranslation of sheol, the grave.
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P.S. Don't choke on them hotdogs, honey.
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apparently she can't. it has been prophesied that she will be alive when god lays the hammer down and she will ascend.

in her mind she can do no wrong, god told her the future of herself.
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LOL, yeah, those grimey hotdogs will kill her before that happens.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20657814


hopefully she wont die via hotdog and live a long and happy life.

but to think you have been handed a prophecy by god himself means you need to seek help or be screened for mental health issues.
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I choose non of the above.
I don't want to be agressive or insulting, but this is pure evil propaganda. The creator of the universe has no intentions to send you into eternal fire, neither the good nor the bad, neither the believer nor the atheist.

God enjoys himself on the simple fact that his creation exists.

Every entity that threatens one with torture and pain is an imposter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12858137


Christian fundie lies created a blasphemy against the pure doctrines of Judaism.

Hell never existed in Jewish teachings.
Its a evil , made up psycho pathic fairytale.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


"Hell" Is Not an Old Testament doctrine:


Popular myth : Hell is an established Biblical doctrine that is in the Bible from start to finish. This is not true! Two thirds of the Bible (the Old Testament) does not mention Hell at all. ("Sheol," the Old Testament word that is sometimes translated as Hell, only means "grave" by definition, and it is where everyone in the Old Testament went when they died--good or evil, Jew or Gentile). Thus the Old Testament does not contain the concept of Hell!

Think about it...

If Hell is real, why didn't God make that warning plain right at the beginning of the Bible? God said the penalty for eating of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was death- -not "eternal life" in fire and brimstone.

If Hell is real, why wasn't Cain warned about it, or Sodom and Gomorrah , or any of those who committed the earliest recorded "sins?"

If Hell is real why didn't Moses warn about this fate in the Ten Commandments or the Mosaic Covenant consisting of over 600 laws, ordinances, and warnings? The Mosaic Law simply stated blessings and cursings in this lifetime.

If Hell is real, why are its roots in paganism, rather than the Bible? Many nations surrounding Israel in the Old Testament believed in Hell-like punishment in the afterlife, for they served bloodthirsty and evil "gods," while Israel simply taught the grave (sheol) and a hope of a resurrection. If Hell is real, why was the revelation of it first given to pagan nations, instead of God's covenant people? Did God expect Israel to learn about the afterlife from the Pagan Gentiles? If so, why did He repeatedly warn Israel to not learn of their ways?

If Hell is real, why did God tell the Jews that burning their children alive in the fire to the false god Molech, (in the valley of Gehenna ) was so detestable to Him? God said that such a thing "never even entered His mind" (Jer. 32:35). How could God say such a thing to Israel , if He has plans to burn alive a good majority of His own creation in a spiritual and eternal Gehenna of His own making?

**FACT: The King James Bible erroneously translates the word "Sheol" as Hell a total of 31 times in the Old Testament, thus setting a foundation for that doctrine in the New Testament as well as the majority of Bible translations to follow the KJV. Even so, most new translations have completely eliminated Hell from the Old Testament, as honest and better scholarship has demanded. The Jewish version of the Old Testament (the Tanakh) has no concept of Hell in it. The importance of this fact cannot be over-emphasized. If a doctrine does not appear as seed form in the books of the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms, it cannot fairly be taught as a major biblical doctrine, if indeed it can be taught as biblical at all!
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you christians will see
time will reveal
and time will prove christianity as the biggest, and longest lasting trap humanity has ever endured

you have fallen for a 2000+ trap, and while no one can see that now...time is the truth holder, and time will reveal

its a trap, its deception, and the entire world will know this in time...even the christians

heaven or hell???

again time will prove that book to be a trap.
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I'm sorry to hear you have no connection with author of "Truth". Words can not describe a moment spent with the author of "Truth". At first, a moment is enough for years....lest you die.
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you christians will see
time will reveal
and time will prove christianity as the biggest, and longest lasting trap humanity has ever endured

you have fallen for a 2000+ trap, and while no one can see that now...time is the truth holder, and time will reveal

its a trap, its deception, and the entire world will know this in time...even the christians

heaven or hell???

again time will prove that book to be a trap.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32308944


I'm sorry to hear you have no connection with author of "Truth". Words can not describe a moment spent with the author of "Truth". At first, a moment is enough for years....lest you die.
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This is true. Some Churches are good , dont get me wrong, but majority keep the lie machine going.

Christians need to turn back to the tenants of Judaism. They will see the purity, and love of God reflected within.
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I choose non of the above.
I don't want to be agressive or insulting, but this is pure evil propaganda. The creator of the universe has no intentions to send you into eternal fire, neither the good nor the bad, neither the believer nor the atheist.

God enjoys himself on the simple fact that his creation exists.

Every entity that threatens one with torture and pain is an imposter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12858137


Christian fundie lies created a blasphemy against the pure doctrines of Judaism.

Hell never existed in Jewish teachings.
Its a evil , made up psycho pathic fairytale.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


"Hell" Is Not an Old Testament doctrine:


Popular myth : Hell is an established Biblical doctrine that is in the Bible from start to finish. This is not true! Two thirds of the Bible (the Old Testament) does not mention Hell at all. ("Sheol," the Old Testament word that is sometimes translated as Hell, only means "grave" by definition, and it is where everyone in the Old Testament went when they died--good or evil, Jew or Gentile). Thus the Old Testament does not contain the concept of Hell!

Think about it...

If Hell is real, why didn't God make that warning plain right at the beginning of the Bible? God said the penalty for eating of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was death- -not "eternal life" in fire and brimstone.

If Hell is real, why wasn't Cain warned about it, or Sodom and Gomorrah , or any of those who committed the earliest recorded "sins?"

If Hell is real why didn't Moses warn about this fate in the Ten Commandments or the Mosaic Covenant consisting of over 600 laws, ordinances, and warnings? The Mosaic Law simply stated blessings and cursings in this lifetime.

If Hell is real, why are its roots in paganism, rather than the Bible? Many nations surrounding Israel in the Old Testament believed in Hell-like punishment in the afterlife, for they served bloodthirsty and evil "gods," while Israel simply taught the grave (sheol) and a hope of a resurrection. If Hell is real, why was the revelation of it first given to pagan nations, instead of God's covenant people? Did God expect Israel to learn about the afterlife from the Pagan Gentiles? If so, why did He repeatedly warn Israel to not learn of their ways?

If Hell is real, why did God tell the Jews that burning their children alive in the fire to the false god Molech, (in the valley of Gehenna ) was so detestable to Him? God said that such a thing "never even entered His mind" (Jer. 32:35). How could God say such a thing to Israel , if He has plans to burn alive a good majority of His own creation in a spiritual and eternal Gehenna of His own making?

**FACT: The King James Bible erroneously translates the word "Sheol" as Hell a total of 31 times in the Old Testament, thus setting a foundation for that doctrine in the New Testament as well as the majority of Bible translations to follow the KJV. Even so, most new translations have completely eliminated Hell from the Old Testament, as honest and better scholarship has demanded. The Jewish version of the Old Testament (the Tanakh) has no concept of Hell in it. The importance of this fact cannot be over-emphasized. If a doctrine does not appear as seed form in the books of the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms, it cannot fairly be taught as a major biblical doctrine, if indeed it can be taught as biblical at all!
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you christians will see
time will reveal
and time will prove christianity as the biggest, and longest lasting trap humanity has ever endured

you have fallen for a 2000+ trap, and while no one can see that now...time is the truth holder, and time will reveal

its a trap, its deception, and the entire world will know this in time...even the christians

heaven or hell???

again time will prove that book to be a trap.
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I'm sorry to hear you have no connection with author of "Truth". Words can not describe a moment spent with the author of "Truth". At first, a moment is enough for years....lest you die.
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Typical CONDESCENDING Fundie attitude!
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I would not even contemplate choosing either, since neither exists in my reality... accept as an idea for a way to keep the feeble minded in check. Be good, go to Heaven, be bad, go to Hell. Well, I've been both good and bad, and i cant go to both, so the kiss principle tells me its not gonna happen.
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go and eat your meat hot dogs now christian who kills.

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