Heaven or Hell? You choose

both heaven and hell are misconceptions due to intermingleing of cultures and poor translations.

Heaven is the sky and space
Hell is the grave.

God defines heaven in Gen 1:8
The greek gods were planets and thier realm was in heaven.
Heaven became known as the realm of the gods, the gods dwelling place, ect.

The planets are no longer considered gods, but heaven is still considered gods dwelling place.

P.S. Don't choke on them hotdogs, honey.

Just stopped in Lisa to say hello to you.

apparently she can't. it has been prophesied that she will be alive when god lays the hammer down and she will ascend.

in her mind she can do no wrong, god told her the future of herself.

Good Riddens LISA LISA

Yes, but what you are pushing here makes no sense either. God WILL NOT save everyone because, like it or not, God does not exist. Did you read the post I addressed to you?

You take the Bible and attempt to make a good God out of a deity that kills infants and children. There is a verse in Psalms, I think 138 or something, "Happy is he who takes your little ones and bashes them against the rock." God killed thousands of KIDS in the Bible. And you come here and expect people to believe he is GOOD.

I think someone counted and God killed over 2 million people in the Bible and that is without the flood and Sodom and Gomorrah because no count of people was given in those events. God IS NOT GOOD. Stop making excuses for him. Even Jesus said the road is narrow and FEW find the way. If you think that Jesus will save everyone, I think you are wrong.

You are worshiping an EVIL deity. You have to throw the Bible away to find real truth. You won't find truth in that book. You can't just read the stuff that makes you feel happy and throw away the bad stuff. You would have to toss out over one-half of the Bible!

Think of this. God BLINDED the eyes of the Pharaoh. Why did he not just let the Pharaoh let the people go? He decided instead to blind his eyes so that he could KILL the firstborn among the children of Egypt. Come on. You expect me to believe that THIS horrible monster will save everyone. You may have a better heart than the average Christian who relishes the idea of eternal suffering, but you are still delusional. Sorry, but this is true.

LOL, yeah, those grimey hotdogs will kill her before that happens.

Except God proves his word through the Bible, and the Bible clearly does not preach this. I'd do some research on the validity of prophecy and the Bible in general. I say this in all kindness :)

Better tend to your lunch, you don't want to threaten people with 'hell' on an empty stomach! :sarcasm1:

if she cannot start to think, she will be repeating this grade in school, somewhere else. on another hell world perhaps.

If you don't think standing on the corner like a lunatic yelling and bantering that people will be tortured by a loving god for eternity isn't a threat of violence, I just don't know how to get through to you.

Did you notice that LISA LISA did not bother to answer my questions either. Her motto is: "my mind is made up...don't confuse me with the facts."

Been there, done that. The bible doesn't resonate with my spirit/soul so I moved on.

You can't choose to believe something, even out of fear. That's called delusion. You're kidding yourself and lying to others.

Amen.
And good video - thanks for posting it.
God Bless You

Christian fundie lies created a blasphemy against the pure doctrines of Judaism.

Hell never existed in Jewish teachings. Its a evil , made up psycho pathic fairytale.

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Only the uneducated would believe in a literal hell of torment. It was a illustration that turned into mistranslation of sheol, the grave.

hopefully she wont die via hotdog and live a long and happy life.

but to think you have been handed a prophecy by god himself means you need to seek help or be screened for mental health issues.

"Hell" Is Not an Old Testament doctrine:

Popular myth : Hell is an established Biblical doctrine that is in the Bible from start to finish. This is not true! Two thirds of the Bible (the Old Testament) does not mention Hell at all. ("Sheol," the Old Testament word that is sometimes translated as Hell, only means "grave" by definition, and it is where everyone in the Old Testament went when they died--good or evil, Jew or Gentile). Thus the Old Testament does not contain the concept of Hell!

Think about it...

If Hell is real, why didn't God make that warning plain right at the beginning of the Bible? God said the penalty for eating of the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was death- -not "eternal life" in fire and brimstone.

If Hell is real, why wasn't Cain warned about it, or Sodom and Gomorrah , or any of those who committed the earliest recorded "sins?"

If Hell is real why didn't Moses warn about this fate in the Ten Commandments or the Mosaic Covenant consisting of over 600 laws, ordinances, and warnings? The Mosaic Law simply stated blessings and cursings in this lifetime.

If Hell is real, why are its roots in paganism, rather than the Bible? Many nations surrounding Israel in the Old Testament believed in Hell-like punishment in the afterlife, for they served bloodthirsty and evil "gods," while Israel simply taught the grave (sheol) and a hope of a resurrection. If Hell is real, why was the revelation of it first given to pagan nations, instead of God's covenant people? Did God expect Israel to learn about the afterlife from the Pagan Gentiles? If so, why did He repeatedly warn Israel to not learn of their ways?

If Hell is real, why did God tell the Jews that burning their children alive in the fire to the false god Molech, (in the valley of Gehenna ) was so detestable to Him? God said that such a thing "never even entered His mind" (Jer. 32:35). How could God say such a thing to Israel , if He has plans to burn alive a good majority of His own creation in a spiritual and eternal Gehenna of His own making?

**FACT: The King James Bible erroneously translates the word "Sheol" as Hell a total of 31 times in the Old Testament, thus setting a foundation for that doctrine in the New Testament as well as the majority of Bible translations to follow the KJV. Even so, most new translations have completely eliminated Hell from the Old Testament, as honest and better scholarship has demanded. The Jewish version of the Old Testament (the Tanakh) has no concept of Hell in it. The importance of this fact cannot be over-emphasized. If a doctrine does not appear as seed form in the books of the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms, it cannot fairly be taught as a major biblical doctrine, if indeed it can be taught as biblical at all!

I'm sorry to hear you have no connection with author of "Truth". Words can not describe a moment spent with the author of "Truth". At first, a moment is enough for years....lest you die.

This is true. Some Churches are good , dont get me wrong, but majority keep the lie machine going.

Christians need to turn back to the tenants of Judaism. They will see the purity, and love of God reflected within.

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Typical CONDESCENDING Fundie attitude!

I would not even contemplate choosing either, since neither exists in my reality... accept as an idea for a way to keep the feeble minded in check. Be good, go to Heaven, be bad, go to Hell. Well, I've been both good and bad, and i cant go to both, so the kiss principle tells me its not gonna happen.

go and eat your meat hot dogs now christian who kills.

No one is ranting on the corner. Did you read anything I posted on the fifth page? There is a lengthy post on the method of the antichrist and the mystery of the fig tree. You create your own destiny. There are two clear choices at the end of this final chapter in a cursed time. The evidence is overwhelming.

Hey brother. How are you?

You are sadly mistaken. God does exist, and has spoken to several on this message board. I am one of them. God is a God of love. Man went into sin and along with sin comes death. You have an evil force at odds with a great God who needed his Son to die in this corrupt time to save us from the hellfires. Go back and look at my lengthy post on page 5 about the antichrist and his methods and then tell me there isn't a dark force working against the will and laws of the one true God and his Son Jesus Christ.

The ways of this world are not God's intentions. It is the result of man trying to forge godlike ways with the destructive path of sin. God has taken many measures to intervene and set the course straight and for mankind to regain eternal life.