Heaven or Hell? You choose

Man fell, and God had to change things so he could save them.

Like your own child, you will move mountains to save them and put yourself in uncomfortable postions doing it, when your children go off course you know they are going to ruin their lives and you do all kinds of saving plans to try and save them.

So Moses's laws were given, tough plan to get out a situation to survive.

Jesus' laws fulfilled Moses' laws, whatever He replaced and updated that is the revised way of living your life which includes the Torah, Christ's laws overrules the Torah because Christ is The Messiah the very person the people were waiting for !!!!!

There is no such thing as a Jew who uses you like a donkey, that mindset fell away after the Jews instigated his death sentence and had Christ killed, the 144,000 saved Jews in the last days serves the Bride of Christ in the new world, those who were saved by Jesus' Blood resulting in securing their soul so they don't go to hell with the world, the Jews were saved in the last days without knowing about the saviang by Jesus' Blood, they were faithful and never defiled themselves with false doctrines.

The fall happens all over again when you choose the wrong wife or husband to be your better half it breaks the cycle of success.

The marriage laws are very strict.

And there is no such thing as same sex couples, this problem endangers all people on the planet as God is duty bound to wipe this away like He did in Noah's day. The people were so evil they also fiddled with the weather like we have today, they were not backward, they were just like us, ungodly and concocted their own laws to live by, God the great creator cleans up when mankind messes up, in Noah's day they fiddled with the weather and brought on weather problems and God then brought on the flood to save the World, same with today, people are playing with nukes this will cause fire, apart from the weather they have also been playing around with since the 50's, just one accident from countries who want to wipe out other countries brings on fire, so God has to do the gentleman thing and clean up the whole world, he speaks to the sun to blast down flares, he speaks to lava to come up and sweep out, he speaks to his heavenly bodies and stones the earth to death, an adulterous generation that just refuses to repent, as if they created themselves, God cannot tolerate the continuance of this, it is man that makes the global accident and God cleans up after the children's wild party they caused.

Same with your own children who overrun your house with their wild parties, drinking, sex, drugs, gambling, untidy living, cheating, back chatting to parents and teachers and parents and teachers abusing the children, it is time to clean out the house, but before that, Christ collects His saints, and that event has already taken place, history is all there for all to see. A probable wipe-out can therefore be expected WHEN mankind uses fire to destroy, there are no more saving plans this is it, it is finished, the Bible cleary shows how the end will be, it is like watching a movie. It is all written.

A man and a woman making a promise to each other is the same as a marriage in heaven, but you still do not touch each other's bodies, not even a kiss, only hold hands and be chaperoned, this is the natural law, breaking this may destroy your whole future.

The law is, once you have made a promise to a virgin and you withdraw your promise, you may not give any more promises to another, that is God's law from heaven. It applies to the man and the woman and you are duty bound not to marry, you spoilt your chances.

If the wife does not fulfill her duties in the home for any reason that will send their children's soul to hell, the husband is obliged to put her away to SAVE THE CHILDREN and he finds another virgin who has not given her heart to any man and he is allowed to marry her and have children from her and enjoy a normal married life, that is the law.

A woman may not have more than one living husband, that is the law !

The Catholic rougue "church" changed all these natural laws so they can stay in power as a government, it was Satan ruling the world from this premise.

The Catholic regime and its governments it spawned destroyed all societies of the human race over 2000 years, people do not know God's natural laws therefore, they loose their souls by deceit, this is the mega deceit the Bible talks about, therefore, there is no confusion as to what is right and what is wrong !

Deceived means deceived and this applies in the Christian kingdom not the "Christian" kingdom as that was and is fake.

Anyone who removes things out from God's Word God and recyle it, God will also remove them and recyle the earth, this is the law for Christians and the saving plan ensures you will be raised up and receive Life.

The minute you change the law, you are no longer a Christian and fall out from heaven.

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......The law is, once you have made a promise to a virgin and you withdraw your promise, you may not give any more promises to another, that is God's law from heaven. It applies to the man and the woman and you are duty bound not to marry, you spoilt your chances......

After your broken promise, you may only marry once that person is no longer alive, then you are free to marry.

We all know no one lives like this anymore, but this is the way Christians are supposed to live. (Those who still live like this are not known to the world, they live a sacred life and God blesses them whoever and wherever they may be.)

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one star, this is nonsense.

once again, false dichotomy.

punishment and reward

carrot and stick. ----> coercion


from there, its nothing but "stacking the deck"


Manipulative psychology, not ethical.

Your religion, like all religions is a sham. thats the reality check and putting it bluntly to you abusive psycho-babblers.

Stop bumping this garbage. Address these issues "disciple" or stop.

Back it up!!!!!

You go, girl! God bless!

You choose (free will) what you believe. So state the full truth about the end times, the prophesied divine events are closer.

Those who do not die at the time, for billions, everyone in the world will have to "choose" for the faith, Roman Catholicism, or not so please, share this, time is short.



A vague one sentence general response to Catholic prophecy, at least
it's a one sentence reply, a token response to appear like
he has never heard you post of this "illumination of
conscience." Go further for once....

You can say it, the illumination of conscience will "convert most" to what Pa Resident1?

Spell it out. Be brave, tell everyone reading this thread, God's end time plan has been revealed in prophecy.

There is only ONE faith, Scripture states the fact for Bible
Aloners (a heresy). God is going to make it clear during the "Illumination of Conscience."

You can never say it PA, why not? Shout it out from the rooftops, Our Lord wants you to, you will save souls.
People will remember.

The Remnant is Roman Catholic.

The reason you don't...won't, because Once4All is a fallen away Catholic.

Do not play this game anymore, speak the Truth to all, that
includes to Once4All. What a dance you two do.

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No such state exists

I choose to use my BRAIN that 'god' gave me to think LOGICALLY about your stupid "choice".

God gave me the power of doubt (my brain). I doubt the authenticity of a religion that was created out of a power hungry Roman Empire in its death throes.

So "god" will send me to hell for that?

No. I think not. Because "god" gave me the power to doubt.

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Let's remove all doubt shall we?

Drink up.

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There is no hell you fools ...

Neither.

would one not be much better off by taking the risk of eternally burning in hell

Wha. . .! Well, sure there is - the almighty Prince of Peace apparently has no recourse but to horribly destroy anyone He's unable to get through to. Praise Jebus for Plan B!

Hell please...in fact anywhere that is christianless will be paradise!
Fortunately the lights just go out though.
Your jesus is a cartoon character, your hell the background for the series.
That this shit is still taken seriously by anyone, let alone millions is mind boggling!
You people really are looney.

You're a victim of mind-control. That's fine if you like it that way, but don't try to bring other people into your delusions.

If we're wrong we've lost nothing

If you're wrong..

You have a better Plan?

Here, YOU do it.

I will sit back and watch YOU Master.

Whoa - how chilling!

Seriously, if you're suggesting that all a person should be worried about is saving their soul, you've kind of missed the whole point. Focus on the self is always a dead end.

Scripture defines eternal life as knowing God in Christ - it says nothing about ending up someplace.

People will be fine. God is the Author of our faith, not us. Lighten up a little and learn to rest instead of relying on carnal appeals and goading. Not everyone is ripe yet.

*God* has a better plan - it's called "redemption". Fortunately, He isn't some loser who bit off more than he could chew and must resort to burning the evidence of his massive failure like some back alley shyster.

Scripture God uses fire to *purify*, yes? Don't the epistles talk of the benefits of "fiery trials"?

Fire good.

The Lake of Fire is not some body of literal fire, or the sun, or anything other than what scripture defines the symbol of "fire" as:

"Our God is a consuming fire" - Hebrews 12 (an echo of Deuteronomy 4:24)

"Is not My word like fire?" - Jeremiah 23

He makes "His ministers a flame of fire" - Hebrews 1 (also Psalm 104)

fiery trials = sharing in the sufferings of Christ - 1 Peter 4

Israel's captivity in Egypt = "an iron furnace" - Deuteronomy 4:20

A "fiery law" proceeded from God's right hand - Deuteronomy 33

God apparently set Israel "on fire", and they didn't even realize it - Isaiah 42



Note that per Revelation 14, those cast into this "lake" are "in the presence of the Lamb". He Himself is likely the fire that purifies.

The only thing that it burns up is the old, corrupt nature and its debris. . .


Fire will expose and test each person's works. . ."if it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames" - 1 Corinthians 3

"By mercy and truth iniquity is purged". . .Proverbs 16

"The wicked will see it and be vexed, He will gnash his teeth and melt away; The *desire* of the wicked will perish" - Psalm 112

The glory of the LORD seemed like a consuming fire to the children of Israel - Exodus 24

It was by fire that He revealed His Law to them. Moses went right up to it, but the masses were afraid. . .
"For this great fire will consume us; if we hear the voice of the LORD our God anymore, then we shall die" - Deuteronomy 5

-->> Fire was equated with hearing His voice

The process of "fire" leaves us in ashes. . .a scriptural symbol of humility.

All through the Laws of Moses, fire is what made the offerings acceptable and pleasing to God.


After Israel defeated an enemy, all the gold, silver, brass, iron, tin and lead were to be purified by fire. . .
Paraphrased, "Everything that can withstand fire must go through fire, by which it shall be made clean. Any other materials which *cannot* withstand fire must be purified by water." - Numbers 31


Mankind is full of people who live after the dictates of their senses and instincts. . .for many, their "god" is their belly. To exist as a mere bodily self - eating, mating, and dominating others - makes us little more than an animal (the "beast"). The remedy is "execution", as illustrated in the burnt offerings of the old testament, which point toward our death sentence on the cross. The enthroned lower nature must be put to death by metaphorical fire.

God has invested too much in all this (His Son) to just torch us and close the file.
There comes a day when undergoing the purification process is no longer optional and the time arrives to move forward and stop being primates.

Well I'll be damned.

Finally someone else who has seen the Fathers Plan.

Can you sip from my cup?

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