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show me a manifest. prove the population totals fed to us by TPTB are not all lies, hyperbole, and manipulations.

I don't trust them nor do I believe them.

too much to gain through fabricating population totals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


Who cares?

Let's assume everyone is incorrect and it's as high as 10 billion.

We currently have enough resources and technology in our hands today to create an abundance for our future.

Instead of a fake market, which we clearly have now.
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I care because eugenicists use this number as justification for mass murder/mass sterilization.
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You missed my point.
I understand yours, but who cares what the true number is - the FACT is our planet can support a whole whackload of us silly humans.
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I agree with you there.
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Over population is a myth and OP bought it hook line and sinker.

How does it feel to be a tool, OP?
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Overpopulation is a myth.

You could give every person on the planet an acre of land in Australia and there would still be room left over.

We don't need GM foods because we throw away almost half of the food produced as it is. The issue is poor distribution and stupid laws that give huge tax breaks to one country while destroying the competition in another.

There is an abundance of food to feed every person on the planet as it is right now.

The main thing that will soon become an issue is fresh water. Considering so much of the planet is covered in the wet stuff one has to ask why desalination of saline water has never been a priority?

Yes the richest countries waste vast resources. Much of this can be attributed to planned obsolescence ( See [link to en.wikipedia.org] ). When things you buy are designed to break or are cheaper to replace than fix (looking at you printers!) you know something is wrong.

There is a 111 year old light bulb still going strong ( See: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] ) and it is widely known that the manufactures built-in obsolescence limiting the life span to a certain amount of hours.

I'd rather sort out those topics.
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Men need to pursue enlightenment and keep their dicks in their pants. PERIOD.

The world is over-populated, but only intelligent action by MEN can solve the problem.

Most of you humans are living like animals and give no thought to true evolution of the species.

This is the reason you are so easily ruled and manipulated.

If your FIRST priority was gaining knowledge and enlightenment and you LAST priority was getting laid, the world would be an entirely different place.

It's time to take the initiative.

Remember that scene in "Dune" with the poison needle in the box?

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Overpopulation is a myth.

You could give every person on the planet an acre of land in Australia and there would still be room left over.

We don't need GM foods because we throw away almost half of the food produced as it is. The issue is poor distribution and stupid laws that give huge tax breaks to one country while destroying the competition in another.

There is an abundance of food to feed every person on the planet as it is right now.

The main thing that will soon become an issue is fresh water. Considering so much of the planet is covered in the wet stuff one has to ask why desalination of saline water has never been a priority?

Yes the richest countries waste vast resources. Much of this can be attributed to planned obsolescence ( See [link to en.wikipedia.org] ). When things you buy are designed to break or are cheaper to replace than fix (looking at you printers!) you know something is wrong.

There is a 111 year old light bulb still going strong ( See: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] ) and it is widely known that the manufactures built-in obsolescence limiting the life span to a certain amount of hours.

I'd rather sort out those topics.
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De-salination is tricky because you would end up with mountains of salt so high it would be untenable. You can't put it back in the ocean because it creates dead zones.

One good solution would be to launch the salt into space, lol.
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do you agree its a problem or not??

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Not.

Look up Thomas Malthus. He was the first idiot to scream this BS back in the 19th century. He was wrong then, and every illiterate who has been screaming the same BS since has been wrong.
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Overpopulation is a myth.

You could give every person on the planet an acre of land in Australia and there would still be room left over.

We don't need GM foods because we throw away almost half of the food produced as it is. The issue is poor distribution and stupid laws that give huge tax breaks to one country while destroying the competition in another.

There is an abundance of food to feed every person on the planet as it is right now.

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No, I do not agree that over-population is a problem. Governments of the most psychopathic kind are the problem, mostly controlled by an archonic influence. Humans are not parasites that live on Mother Earth, we belong here. The parasites are the archons that control the hearts and minds of the so called powers that be; glutons and rapist of the worst kind. Over-population is bullshit NWO thinking: so incredible jealous they are of the true beauty and creative spirit of humanity that they have spent trillions and created armies to kill us off.
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I think it is our responsibility as a species to not over populate. We should have respect for all the species that we share this planet with. We should know our limits and live sustainably.

That being said, I think the number of people on this planet right now is not the problem. It is the way we have chosen and continue to live that is doing the most damage.
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NOT!!! There is enough food and water and housing to feed everyone many times over. The problem is the bankers make you pay to live.
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I have stated this not once, but a thousand times. There is no greater problem on earth today.
I have two words...Thomas Malthus
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Some of you seem to miss the most important point about overpopulation. It's not so much about basic resources(though there are indications that water will become contested in dry areas) but overall consumption. How much larger can the population get with the current western standard of well being and consumption as a global model? That is the question. You're not going to magically stop people consuming more than they need.
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I think it is our responsibility as a species to not over populate. We should have respect for all the species that we share this planet with. We should know our limits and live sustainably.

That being said, I think the number of people on this planet right now is not the problem. It is the way we have chosen and continue to live that is doing the most damage.
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NOT!!! There is enough food and water and housing to feed everyone many times over. The problem is the bankers make you pay to live.
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I have stated this not once, but a thousand times. There is no greater problem on earth today.
I have two words...Thomas Malthus
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Some of you seem to miss the most important point about overpopulation. It's not so much about basic resources(though there are indications that water will become contested in dry areas) but overall consumption. How much larger can the population get with the current western standard of well being and consumption as a global model? That is the question. You're not going to magically stop people consuming more than they need.
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25 million unemployed in the US alone. I'd say we are over populated.
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get your stats correct white people are less idiots
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NOT!!! There is enough food and water and housing to feed everyone many times over. The problem is the bankers make you pay to live.
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If there is so much food and water then why is half the world population starving? You fail to address the reality of non-sustainability. Saying that overpopulation is not a problem does not solve the issue of it currently in fact being a real problem.

We must fix things before we allow a population of 20 billion. Think about that number for a minute because it is right around the corner.

Sure you could give everyone an acre of land. But is that land arable? Can it produce healthy crops year after year without injecting the ground with phosphates that must come from enormous mines that require mega-vast resources of equipment and shipping to move it around the world. Mines that are becoming rapidly depleted.

The consumption, the waste, the logistics of supporting super massive populations just don't take care of themselves. And no government can simply make it happen. It requires true enlightenment from each individual and that will never happen. We can not live in a world where only a third of us produce something. Where a third of us actually work.

Some yahoo once said we could fit everyone in the world inside the border of Texas. What she didn't tell you is that Texas is bigger than most countries and if we actually did that, we'd be standing shoulder to shoulder buried in a column of feces and trash that would reach to the moon.

The scales are already tipping. You can say this or that about 'oh, all we have to do is desalinate water or stop throwing food away' but HOW EXACTLY ARE YOU GOING TO ACHIEVE THESE THINGS OVERNIGHT??

You aren't, is the short answer. Because of corruption (the human condition) we can't do something as simple as balance the budget because your government that YOU elected is hell bent on genociding innocent people for monetary gain. And most of you unwittingly condone it with your absence of action and lack of courage.

The infrastructure necessary to sustain our current population is 100 years behind the power curve. And it does not take one acre of land to sustain a person, it takes at least 20. At least 20! Unless you're agreeing to live in the woods like an animal with no shelter.

You pro-population people have zero real world experience. You have absolutely no idea what it takes to sustain a population. In your ignorant minds you think it will magically take care of itself. So so wrong in every regard.

Here is a fact: very little of the available land on earth is capable of producing food. And what there was has been so over-farmed that we MUST synthetically fertilize it. That in itself is a death blow to your silly dream. We still need room to let forests grow and rivers run free. We can't turn the whole fucking landscape into a strip mall and a parking lot and a freeway to your favorite restaurant or cafe.

In order for this planet to remain healthy for thousands of years it NEEDS to be primarily untouched and natural. Otherwise it can't regenerate itself.

I flew from Philadelphia to Detroit last week at night. It was storming so we stayed at a low altitude. I watched out the window for the entire hour and a half and all I could see was sprawling lights, roads, houses, and useless eaters driving to movie rental stores or to get beer. A thousand miles of unbroken sprawl. No nature. No chance. And no hope.

It is NOT a debate about over population. It is only a matter of if you can see it or not. Our population is grotesquely and embarrassingly obese and sick. People are mentally deranged. There is no privacy. No intention to enlighten themselves. Just belligerent consumption delicately balanced on a razor's edge waiting to collapse.

And you think people should continue shitting out illegitimate children like its going to be okay. Letting the state (me) pay for it all while we go bankrupt because useless eaters can't take care of themselves.

Depopulation is coming whether you like it or not. Because it is time.
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i think the jury is still out on this one in terms of whether we are currently over-populated or are reaching that number very soon.

but i do agree that at this rate we will hit a number that Earth cant sustain.

nature has a way of handling these things and it will i am sure.
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agreed it will hopefully get back to normal after we have done with it if we don't destroy it
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If its a problem for you than subtract yourself from the population than.
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hostility is a funny defence

i did't say it was a problem i was asking GLP if you have nothing constructing then kindly fuck off
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This is why I'm all for a new flu pandemic, even an engineered one. We need big, killer diseases to cut down on the number of mouths every now and then. When we fail to regulate ourselves, nature will do it for it.
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agreed but only if its natural don't no if i'm for the gov making some lu to kill us off though
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If you think the world is over populated then maybe there isnt enough room for you.

People who say there is an over population problem are happy to see others die but are not happy to do themselves in. Hyppcrites.
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i have plenty of space trust me was more a questioned aimed towards it being sustainable not my hatred for people or anything lol calm down
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Those who believe in over population should just kill themselves in order to reduce the population size, they can turn it into a religious ceremony sacrificing themselves to Gaia the mother earth goddess.
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well beats getting gassed
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Well, we can fit 7 billion people into an area smaller than Los Angeles, so I don't think that overpopulation is the problem really, i think that it is just the way that we live that's the or is going to be the problem.
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I heard a guy said once before that everyone could fit on a boat no larger then new zealand.

If thats true, then we are maybe underpopulated?
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its not just about space its about resources and all our rubbish and food. if it was just about space what you said would be spot on
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25 million unemployed in the US alone. I'd say we are over populated.
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thanks for your input
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No I don't think it is THE problem.

The real problem is money; everything is measured by money and I'm sure that the over population statistics derive in a way or another from money.

What if humans learn to live without money?.........that will be the day.

There is no justice in the way the cake is split, most of us after taking the bigger parts enjoy throwing away the left overs instead of sharing with those who had none ...... if you know what I mean.
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nice point but does not answer all the waste as in rubbish where it all can go
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bsflag.they have been saying this for 50 years...
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Just Colonize Other Planets.
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lol i love how simple you make it sound yeh no worries i'll pick you up in 5 mins and we'll go colonize mars lol
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NOT!!! There is enough food and water and housing to feed everyone many times over. The problem is the bankers make you pay to live.
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If there is so much food and water then why is half the world population starving? You fail to address the reality of non-sustainability. Saying that overpopulation is not a problem does not solve the issue of it currently in fact being a real problem.

We must fix things before we allow a population of 20 billion. Think about that number for a minute because it is right around the corner.

Sure you could give everyone an acre of land. But is that land arable? Can it produce healthy crops year after year without injecting the ground with phosphates that must come from enormous mines that require mega-vast resources of equipment and shipping to move it around the world. Mines that are becoming rapidly depleted.

The consumption, the waste, the logistics of supporting super massive populations just don't take care of themselves. And no government can simply make it happen. It requires true enlightenment from each individual and that will never happen. We can not live in a world where only a third of us produce something. Where a third of us actually work.

Some yahoo once said we could fit everyone in the world inside the border of Texas. What she didn't tell you is that Texas is bigger than most countries and if we actually did that, we'd be standing shoulder to shoulder buried in a column of feces and trash that would reach to the moon.

The scales are already tipping. You can say this or that about 'oh, all we have to do is desalinate water or stop throwing food away' but HOW EXACTLY ARE YOU GOING TO ACHIEVE THESE THINGS OVERNIGHT??

You aren't, is the short answer. Because of corruption (the human condition) we can't do something as simple as balance the budget because your government that YOU elected is hell bent on genociding innocent people for monetary gain. And most of you unwittingly condone it with your absence of action and lack of courage.

The infrastructure necessary to sustain our current population is 100 years behind the power curve. And it does not take one acre of land to sustain a person, it takes at least 20. At least 20! Unless you're agreeing to live in the woods like an animal with no shelter.

You pro-population people have zero real world experience. You have absolutely no idea what it takes to sustain a population. In your ignorant minds you think it will magically take care of itself. So so wrong in every regard.

Here is a fact: very little of the available land on earth is capable of producing food. And what there was has been so over-farmed that we MUST synthetically fertilize it. That in itself is a death blow to your silly dream. We still need room to let forests grow and rivers run free. We can't turn the whole fucking landscape into a strip mall and a parking lot and a freeway to your favorite restaurant or cafe.

In order for this planet to remain healthy for thousands of years it NEEDS to be primarily untouched and natural. Otherwise it can't regenerate itself.

I flew from Philadelphia to Detroit last week at night. It was storming so we stayed at a low altitude. I watched out the window for the entire hour and a half and all I could see was sprawling lights, roads, houses, and useless eaters driving to movie rental stores or to get beer. A thousand miles of unbroken sprawl. No nature. No chance. And no hope.

It is NOT a debate about over population. It is only a matter of if you can see it or not. Our population is grotesquely and embarrassingly obese and sick. People are mentally deranged. There is no privacy. No intention to enlighten themselves. Just belligerent consumption delicately balanced on a razor's edge waiting to collapse.

And you think people should continue shitting out illegitimate children like its going to be okay. Letting the state (me) pay for it all while we go bankrupt because useless eaters can't take care of themselves.

Depopulation is coming whether you like it or not. Because it is time.
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Your masters have caused all of the "sickness" you see. You are gagging on the cock of elitist pigs that enjoy all of the pain and suffering. You have been brainwashed to enjoy it as well. I can see it in your post. You hate humans. You hate yourself. You want people to die miserable painful deaths.

Bottom line: You suck.
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You are an imbecile who can't psychoanalyze script. I also see that you offered nothing intelligent to the post. Just simple brain dead regurgitation that I knew was coming before you even wrote it.

This has nothing to do with hate. It has nothing to do with your feminine emotions or knee-jerk opinions.

All it has to do with is fixing a very serious problem. That's all. Fixing it. Nothing more. Because if we don't fix it soon, 90% of you will suffer an excruciating demise that will make a tyrannical depop program look like a day at the beach. Reducing population humanely is the smart way. Don't jump to conclusions. That doesn't mean chopping a million heads off. It means educating people. And offering incentives for not getting accidentally knocked up when you go out for some cock. We must compel humans to take personal responsibility
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The responses on here are so predictable it saddens me.

It's not really about the population. It's about the human condition, whether or not we can sustain ourselves, and where we are going. What are our goals.

I have no idea why people are so sensetive to this subject. It's like they are slaves to their emotions and can't think clearly about anything.

Here are the facts: humanity can't sustain its current population. If there are starving countries and countries at war then THAT is a problem of population. If we need genetically modified foods then We are over populated. If the oceans are seas of plastic then we are over populated. Etc etc.

If humans werent so primitive, if we could live in peace with a system that works and doesn't strain our planet then I'd say let's keep populating. But it's mentally infantile to think we are even a 1000 years from achieving that. Most people are just too ignorant, lazy, cowardly, and unproductive.

And no, idiot, I will not 'off' myself. But I will determine who NEEDS to be eliminated. We need to look at genetics. Intelligence. Productivity. Crime rates. Race. Etc etc. then choose who is no longer allowed to breed.

All things and people are not created equal. Intelligent folks look 10,000 years out. Not just to their next paycheck or can of beer.

Population control is about the preservation of our best genetics so that we may eventually colonize space. It has NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR FEELINGS. Or your opinion.
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thank you you are on my line of thought pretty much spot on on in fact.
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show me a manifest. prove the population totals fed to us by TPTB are not all lies, hyperbole, and manipulations.

I don't trust them nor do I believe them.

too much to gain through fabricating population totals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Cowherder


Who cares?

Let's assume everyone is incorrect and it's as high as 10 billion.

We currently have enough resources and technology in our hands today to create an abundance for our future.

Instead of a fake market, which we clearly have now.
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I care because eugenicists use this number as justification for mass murder/mass sterilization.
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You missed my point.
I understand yours, but who cares what the true number is - the FACT is our planet can support a whole whackload of us silly humans.
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but only while wiping out other species' homes and living space we are too greedy
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