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LISTEN Up .Emergency BBS list incase net goes down.Trinity Idea

 
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LISTEN Up .Emergency BBS list incase net goes down.Trinity Idea
Ok since many of you may know about trinity's post
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About having back up GLP.

BBS
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

I posted my reply in dial up BBS as a solution
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trinity but these are solution via isps.what if govt shutsdown isps.

Why not use packet radio ( cb packet radio is illegal in USA) and BBS.Since landline charges are free\unlimited you can create a BBS node and we can dial up to your BBS site.for international users you may want to use a toll free number and we can donate you via membership fees or use fidonet although fidonet is almost extint and there are not many foreign countries which have fidonet nodes.
here some example


dial up software
[link to www.telix.com]

also use mtelnet or syncsterm for a good bbs login.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32185039


FOr BBS software goto [link to www.synchro.net]


for noobs who want to try BBS

goto start then run and type telnet

then type "open docsplace.tzo.com"

Use mtelnet or synsterm for better viewing

Make sure to enable telnet if you are running win vista\7\8 by going to control panel-program and features-turn windows features on or off-add telnet client.

Trinity I beg you to seriously consider a dialup BBS site and fidonet and if possible a toll free number and packet radio and definitely fidonet.


BBS fidonet link

[link to www.fidonet.us]

software list
[link to www.bbscorner.com]

[link to www.filegate.net]

[link to www.filegate.net]
[link to ambrosia60.dnsalias.net]

plz mods pin this and trinity plz seriously ponder on this.

Here some BBS appeal to TRINITY over many years
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Thread: Emergency BBS list in case of internet shut down


mine appeal
Thread: trinity\mods\admin how would bbs\fidonet glp work for non americans
Thread: hey trinity? TELNET BBS GLP?

PLz pin this .
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plz anyone with karma points plz pin this.
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wow not a single post.My only hope is a mod.
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01/16/2013 10:53 AM
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Re: LISTEN Up .Emergency BBS list incase net goes down.Trinity Idea
For Windows users, you'll have to install Telnet for all versions beyond XP, I believe. If you're using LINUX, Telnet should be installed by default -- so just open a terminal window and type telnet...

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Telnet is still TCP/IP. if HTTP (hypertext transport protocol) isn't working over TCP/IP, there's no real reason to expect telent over TCP/IP will work.


TCP/IP can be run with many different types of network hardware connection- dialup modem, null or direct modem, ethernet, ALL forms of packet (wifi *is* packet radio, it's just not ax.25 protocol)- modulated laser- whatever.

TCP/IP works great and there's no reason to throw it out the window. What will break your http or telnet connection will generally fall into a couple areas:

---DNS (name service) restrictions/failures. In this case, yu would not be able to reach GLP because the name servers were down or removed the address information for the GLP server.

Solution: keep track of the IP addresses, *cache* the DNS data. Then you can connect with [link to 123.456.789.666] or whatever


---- routing issues or attacks.
In this case, the route (the highway signs) are removed so your computer has not method of getting data to and fro. When you go to GLP you do NOT connect *directly* to the webserver. You connect to a gateway, then backbone routers, then glp gateway routers, then GLP. if your packets fo data don't have a *route*, they can't get there.

Solutions for this are a bit more difficult, but the internet isn't dependent on black magic secret boxes- ANYONE can set up a router, and anyone with wireless can set up an alternate router, etc etc.

The best large scale solution is to deploy wireless "alternate" network routers that can mesh freely and route your packets.
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Will it have Chat with Lisa 2.0 ?????


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The best large scale solution is to deploy wireless "alternate" network routers that can mesh freely and route your packets.
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indeed. a collection of autonomous systems that relay by means of common protocols. ip-networks can be build on top of anything... anything can be build on top ip-networks. and it has all been implemented many times, gone public, became free, and is ready for use...

op still doesn't get it: the telecom infrastructures that support the phone systems, are far more fragile than the various independent internet-networks that are loosely connected. on top of that: most, if not all, bbs-software is outdated immensely, and full of bugs. in these times, it is outright stupid to rely on a corporation or government for communications.

and please op, don't promote the use of telnet: people have been trying to get rid of it since the eighties, because it is so horrible insecure (it sends anything in cleartext, which means that any hop on your route can see everything you do). in these times, it is outright dangerous to use communications with authentication or confidentiality.
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Make sure to enable telnet if you are running win vista\7\8 by going to control panel-program and features-turn windows features on or off-add telnet client.

Trinity I beg you to seriously consider a dialup BBS site and fidonet and if possible a toll free number and packet radio and definitely fidonet.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32353888


I agree that a BBS is a way to keep communications up, albeit in a slow way.

I'm actually interested in starting a packet radio BBS in my area; while everyone says that the phone system will go down in a major crisis, we know that amateur radio never goes down. As an amateur radio operator, it seems to me a "no brainer".

If anyone has information on packet radio BBS'es, please join this discussion.
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I support this motion.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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For Windows users, you'll have to install Telnet for all versions beyond XP, I believe. If you're using LINUX, Telnet should be installed by default -- so just open a terminal window and type telnet...
 Quoting: kingbirdfivezero


install PuTTY.
Don't use the snoopware.
Nice, tight, PuTTY session and it's portable on a thumb drive...and on every Linux Live CD on the planet.
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telnetbbsguide.com has a dialup and telnet BBS list. Its the only site out there thats updated weekly. Its the #1 source for BBS listings. There are several die-hards that still have dialup access.

I still have my copy of Wildcat! 5... been thinking about bringing it back online. I started out with TriBBS 5.11 and upgraded to v10, then moved over to Wildcat.

I got my amateur radio license last year and started my APRS packet station. I am still working on getting my other radio connected so that it will also function as a packet radio BBS that will be capable of message forwarding with other stations.
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Make sure to enable telnet if you are running win vista\7\8 by going to control panel-program and features-turn windows features on or off-add telnet client.

Trinity I beg you to seriously consider a dialup BBS site and fidonet and if possible a toll free number and packet radio and definitely fidonet.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32353888


I agree that a BBS is a way to keep communications up, albeit in a slow way.

I'm actually interested in starting a packet radio BBS in my area; while everyone says that the phone system will go down in a major crisis, we know that amateur radio never goes down. As an amateur radio operator, it seems to me a "no brainer".

If anyone has information on packet radio BBS'es, please join this discussion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46871885


I operate on 2m packet. I have a PK-232 and 3 Paccomm HandiPackets. I use a TNC-X for the APRS operations.

I use Slackware 9 linux on an old 486DX2/50 machine with 16MB RAM. 80GB hard drive with NE2000 ethernet card connected to the Internet via DSL.

I run JNOS on top of linux for the AX.25 networking. JNOS supports all packet radio operations.

There are several packet users/mailboxes in my area. I am in Mississippi. Most of the stations are Winlink and just about everyone has a packet mailbox.

I have been able to connect into Louisiana several times when tropospheric ducting occurs. Also recorded a 700 mile tropo duct to Texas on APRS one night.

Its fun, if you like the old-school dialup BBS... then you will love packet radio.
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If you want to get started with packet radio, I suggest that you find a TNC that has its own internal mailbox. This will get you basic mail transfer. There is a beacon function, so you are telling everyone out there that your station is online.

APRS is also a good starting point. It supports basic messaging also. Many radio operators find APRS a very exciting mode of operation.

The TNC-2 clones are a great choice. The Paccomm Tiny-2 is one of the best. I found that the TNCs with the TCM-3105 modem chip decode packets better than all the others. The PK-232MBX is another great TNC that supports HF and VHF packet operations, along with many other digital modes.

If you want a full-service BBS, then F6FBB is the way to go. It is available on plain old DOS, Windows 16/32 bit, and linux. Dropbox/TNT for linux is also good.

The full-service BBS is network capable, meaning that you can forward mail to other systems using the FBB protocol. This is like Fidonet for the old dialup BBS.
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Telnet is still TCP/IP. if HTTP (hypertext transport protocol) isn't working over TCP/IP, there's no real reason to expect telent over TCP/IP will work.


TCP/IP can be run with many different types of network hardware connection- dialup modem, null or direct modem, ethernet, ALL forms of packet (wifi *is* packet radio, it's just not ax.25 protocol)- modulated laser- whatever.

TCP/IP works great and there's no reason to throw it out the window. What will break your http or telnet connection will generally fall into a couple areas:

---DNS (name service) restrictions/failures. In this case, yu would not be able to reach GLP because the name servers were down or removed the address information for the GLP server.

Solution: keep track of the IP addresses, *cache* the DNS data. Then you can connect with [link to 123.456.789.666] or whatever


---- routing issues or attacks.
In this case, the route (the highway signs) are removed so your computer has not method of getting data to and fro. When you go to GLP you do NOT connect *directly* to the webserver. You connect to a gateway, then backbone routers, then glp gateway routers, then GLP. if your packets fo data don't have a *route*, they can't get there.

Solutions for this are a bit more difficult, but the internet isn't dependent on black magic secret boxes- ANYONE can set up a router, and anyone with wireless can set up an alternate router, etc etc.

The best large scale solution is to deploy wireless "alternate" network routers that can mesh freely and route your packets.
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This ^^^
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