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So.....the rest area janitor can affect your right to 2nd amendment.....if he mistakes constipation with mental distress?
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that was alot softer then i was expecting.

i guess he felt all the friction.
 Quoting: Oyster


Looks mild, but the devil is in the details...

Notice how many of these actions tie in with Obamacare, and the fact your medical records will now be in the hands of the government...

Ever tell your doctor you were sad or upset about something?!?!?

Is that a knock at the door?!?!?
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Obama: The greatest gun salesman in history!
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no kidding, this man in less then 2 terms has moved more firearms and ammo off shelves then smith and wessons whole history!
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that was alot softer then i was expecting.

i guess he felt all the friction.
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Just wait until the next staged shooting occurs. He'll get what he wants, he's a patient man. We are just the proverbial frog in the slowly boiling pot, Friends.

I do hope you're right, and if so we have to keep pushing for our rights.
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He shot himself in the foot, (pun intended) when he mentioned Chicago... a city with some of the toughest gun laws on the books.

And we all know how well they work there. lmao
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If he would just ban Negroes, gun violence would fall to practically nothing. All that crap and pushing for an assault weapons manufacturing ban won't accomplish shit.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Who are you calling a negro, Cracker?
 Quoting: Mad Pole


99.9% of gun crimes are committed by people that didn't legally purchase a gun...Negroes don't buy, they steal...even banning all the guns would only leave the criminals holding the guns, therefore, banning Negroes is the only sure way to dramatically reduce violent crime across the board.
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After having watched the performance (and it was a performance) by the President and Vice President to garner support through the shameless use of innocent children, I considered the President's line: Our first and foremost priority should be our children's safety. I also thought of his line: we have a responsibility to protect the most vulnerable members of our society. With that in mind, how could he say such things, yet support abortion? If you want a violation of the safety of the most vulnerable members of our society, consider the unborn children murdered every day under the indifference and apathy of people like this President, who believe that life is only precious when it suits your needs. If that life does not suit your purpose, you can just deny that it is life, and pretend it is simply a growth that must be cut out and destroyed if the parent chooses not to have a baby. What hypocrisy...
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that was alot softer then i was expecting.

i guess he felt all the friction.
 Quoting: Oyster


Looks mild, but the devil is in the details...

Notice how many of these actions tie in with Obamacare, and the fact your medical records will now be in the hands of the government...

Ever tell your doctor you were sad or upset about something?!?!?

Is that a knock at the door?!?!?

 Quoting: Saddletramp


Ugh, that's so creepy...you're totally right.
"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified."
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If he would just ban Negroes, gun violence would fall to practically nothing. All that crap and pushing for an assault weapons manufacturing ban won't accomplish shit.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Correct. Gang banging negroes and mexicans, plus a few White trash, are the problem.
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If he would just ban Negroes, gun violence would fall to practically nothing. All that crap and pushing for an assault weapons manufacturing ban won't accomplish shit.
 Quoting: BRIEF


It might help to close the southern border and remove illegal aliens too.
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Yes, absolutely right!
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1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.

11. Nominate an ATF director.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14223177


Look at number 16, collecting information on gun use and ownership was specifically excluded in the Affordable Care Act and Obama is now trying to justify collecting that information with EO 16.

Affordable Care Act states:
(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any information relating to the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;

(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or

(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.

(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATABANKS.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.
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If he would just ban Negroes, gun violence would fall to practically nothing. All that crap and pushing for an assault weapons manufacturing ban won't accomplish shit.
 Quoting: BRIEF


And btw, if you honkies didn't enslave my people, and treat us as a 2nd class citizens, then we'd have no gun violence.

It's crackers like you that is the problem.
 Quoting: Mad Pole


I likes my crackers with soup, sometimes with peanut butter...
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And brief shows up instantly to make everyone look bad. Thanks you shill fake racist!
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Yea I dont know what to think about Brief.
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Executive orders are private law (as are statutes)...

Government agents and employees who impose private (or commercial) law on the people have no immunity.


restrictive principle of sovereign immunity. The doctrine by which a foreign nation's immunity does not apply to claims arising from the nation's private or commercial acts, but protects the nation only from claims arising from its public functions. See COMMERCIAL- ACTIVITY EXCEPTION; JURE GESTTONIS; JURE IMPERII. [Cases: International Law (;=> 10.33.] "[Tlhe [Foreign Sovereignjlmmunities Act codified the so-called 'restrictive' principle of sovereign immunity, as recognized in international law. Under this doctrine, the immunity of a foreign state in the courts of the United States is 'restricted' to claims involving the foreign state's public acts and does not extend to suits based on its commercial or private conduct." 14A Charles Alan Wright et a!., Federal Practice and Procedure § 3662, at 161-62 (3d ed.1998).


jure gestionis (joor-ee jes-chee-oh-nis), n. [Latin "by way of doing business"] A nation's acts that are essentially commercial or private, in contrast to its public or governmental acts. _ Under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act, a foreign country's immunity is limited to claims involVing its public acts. The statutory immunity does not extend to claims arising from the private or commercial acts of a foreign state. 28 USCA § 1605. Cf. JURE IMPERII. See COMMERCIAL-ACTIVITY EXCEPTION; RESTRICTIVE PRINCIPLE OF SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY.
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that was alot softer then i was expecting.

i guess he felt all the friction.
 Quoting: Oyster


Looks mild, but the devil is in the details...

Notice how many of these actions tie in with Obamacare, and the fact your medical records will now be in the hands of the government...

Ever tell your doctor you were sad or upset about something?!?!?

Is that a knock at the door?!?!?
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Exactly. All the more reason, regardless of who you are and what you own, to tell your doctors, "None of your business," if they ask you if you own a gun.
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If he would just ban Negroes, gun violence would fall to practically nothing. All that crap and pushing for an assault weapons manufacturing ban won't accomplish shit.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Who are you calling a negro, Cracker?
 Quoting: Mad Pole


I'm pretty sure 'cracker' doesn't bother him as much as kneegrow bothers you.

haha lolatu
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After having watched the performance (and it was a performance) by the President and Vice President to garner support through the shameless use of innocent children, I considered the President's line: Our first and foremost priority should be our children's safety. I also thought of his line: we have a responsibility to protect the most vulnerable members of our society. With that in mind, how could he say such things, yet support abortion? If you want a violation of the safety of the most vulnerable members of our society, consider the unborn children murdered every day under the indifference and apathy of people like this President, who believe that life is only precious when it suits your needs. If that life does not suit your purpose, you can just deny that it is life, and pretend it is simply a growth that must be cut out and destroyed if the parent chooses not to have a baby. What hypocrisy...
 Quoting: Rising Son


clappa

+1 for you, my friend. Well said and you are 100% right.
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Wow....all this drama and build up for trivial laws...WOW!
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If he would just ban Negroes, gun violence would fall to practically nothing. All that crap and pushing for an assault weapons manufacturing ban won't accomplish shit.
 Quoting: BRIEF


LOL...na, just tell white guys to stop "illegally" selling guns to them. Oh wait...forgot about the ulterior motive in regards to giving them guns.
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If he would just ban Negroes, gun violence would fall to practically nothing. All that crap and pushing for an assault weapons manufacturing ban won't accomplish shit.
 Quoting: BRIEF


And btw, if you honkies didn't enslave my people, and treat us as a 2nd class citizens, then we'd have no gun violence.

It's crackers like you that is the problem.
 Quoting: Mad Pole


I never enslaved you, nor did my parents, nor did their parents...get over it and raise your fucking children instead of being violent thugs and drug dealers.
I never forgive and I never forget

I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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If he would just ban Negroes, gun violence would fall to practically nothing. All that crap and pushing for an assault weapons manufacturing ban won't accomplish shit.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Who are you calling a negro, Cracker?
 Quoting: Mad Pole


99.9% of gun crimes are committed by people that didn't legally purchase a gun...Negroes don't buy, they steal...even banning all the guns would only leave the criminals holding the guns, therefore, banning Negroes is the only sure way to dramatically reduce violent crime across the board.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Occasionally, I'll meet a black man or woman that I consider to be a decent, respectable individual. But most of their kind are out of control and are a threat to the rest of us.
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If he would just ban Negroes, gun violence would fall to practically nothing. All that crap and pushing for an assault weapons manufacturing ban won't accomplish shit.
 Quoting: BRIEF


And this is why we will have all of our freedoms taken away from us. Simple minded thinking.
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If he would just ban Negroes, gun violence would fall to practically nothing. All that crap and pushing for an assault weapons manufacturing ban won't accomplish shit.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Who are you calling a negro, Cracker?
 Quoting: Mad Pole


99.9% of gun crimes are committed by people that didn't legally purchase a gun...Negroes don't buy, they steal...even banning all the guns would only leave the criminals holding the guns, therefore, banning Negroes is the only sure way to dramatically reduce violent crime across the board.
 Quoting: BRIEF


first of all, ive seen you post here alot. but you are seriously going about this the wrong way. how many brave men and women of all race and creed serve honorably in our military? united we stand. and if we stood united, on not only just this issue, but them all, we would see some real damn change, and not the type that stripes our freedoms away.
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So that's it? No ban on assault weapons or high capacity magazines??
 Quoting: Beanflicker


He has to leave that to congress.
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If he would just ban Negroes, gun violence would fall to practically nothing. All that crap and pushing for an assault weapons manufacturing ban won't accomplish shit.
 Quoting: BRIEF


Correct. Gang banging negroes and mexicans, plus a few White trash, are the problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


What percentage of gun violence are negroes responsible for anyways?
flickin my bean
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Obama: The greatest gun salesman in history!
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This! ^^
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If he would just ban Negroes, gun violence would fall to practically nothing. All that crap and pushing for an assault weapons manufacturing ban won't accomplish shit.
 Quoting: BRIEF


And btw, if you honkies didn't enslave my people, and treat us as a 2nd class citizens, then we'd have no gun violence.

It's crackers like you that is the problem.
 Quoting: Mad Pole


1rof1

Poor kneegrows.

Keep killing yourselves.
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He just did administration stuff.

Funny how he did not mention Hollywood movies in addition to Video games for violence..

Our Congress is so dysfunctional that this is dead in the water..

My guess is that even worse tragedies will happen and every month of so he will pressure them more..

I think the goal is to ban them all still.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13743811


Because

A.Movies are fake crap presentations of shooting

B.Video Games gun shooting is COMICAL



Games & Movies don't make people go kill,

PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KILL GO KILL
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Those are just the summaries that the O admin chose to use to describe them. Wait 'til the justice department lawyers write these out on paper to be signed. Then and only then will we truly know the extent of the dildo he is getting to ram us with
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lmao
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21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
 Quoting: Presidential EO

Um. Since parity means "equivalent" or "similar" does this mean that in order for there to be a certain amount of health care given that certain regulations must be met? WTF?? What the FUCK does this have to do with gun ownership?

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
 Quoting: Presidential EO

In order to achieve WHAT, exactly? I happen to be in this category and I'm terrified of even touching a weapon.

Did anyone else notice how he completely bypassed the part of the 2nd amendment which requires that ALL STATE MILITIAS BE WELL ARMED??????

Parity! This word he uses way to fucking often. Parity in types of weapons the citizen has access to as PART of that State's Militia!!! YO! Hello???

Last Edited by Eireann on 01/16/2013 12:40 PM
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