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Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/16/2013 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stop being victims and start being leaders!!! It is We the people that need to stand up side by side and peacefully and thoughtfully do something about this. We are the change that is needed in this country, The politicians regardless of political party are on the same team and its not ours. "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
pinkpixiexx User ID: 9096725 United Kingdom 01/16/2013 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace" "Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1431110 United States 01/16/2013 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pro choice or Pro life Anti gun or Pro gun Business owner or Welfare recipient No matter what our differences we need to admit that our Government is broken, out of control, and no longer responsive to the people !!! We need to work together to JERK A KNOT in these fools asses. We can sort out our differences AFTER we sort out our Government. |
Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/16/2013 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pro choice or Pro life Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431110 Anti gun or Pro gun Business owner or Welfare recipient No matter what our differences we need to admit that our Government is broken, out of control, and no longer responsive to the people !!! We need to work together to JERK A KNOT in these fools asses. We can sort out our differences AFTER we sort out our Government. I agree, these stupid catchphrase's and powerwords are just there to divide us, to keep us fighting amongst ourselves about the petty differences while they go about enforcing there real agenda together. We can fix the small stuff together also, but lets fix the big picture first.. "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
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Follow the money trail User ID: 16334582 United States 01/16/2013 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pro choice or Pro life Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431110 Anti gun or Pro gun Business owner or Welfare recipient No matter what our differences we need to admit that our Government is broken, out of control, and no longer responsive to the people !!! We need to work together to JERK A KNOT in these fools asses. We can sort out our differences AFTER we sort out our Government. When the economy collapses all The BS from the MSM and electeds wont cut it anymore. Never in anyones darkest nightmares could they imagine so many silent electeds when the need is the most. Right or left they dropped the ball canoes4u |
Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/16/2013 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to start asking real questions and stop fighting with ourselves, our own education and thoughts on the real issues is what scares the crap out of them. Yet we fight day and night over how many bullets we can have, or what celebrity is pregnant. If even a small percentage of the population knew what power we really have, we could stand together and change the world without a shot being fired. Last Edited by Liquid_Pestilence on 01/16/2013 03:53 PM "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25028055 United States 01/16/2013 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pro choice or Pro life Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431110 Anti gun or Pro gun Business owner or Welfare recipient No matter what our differences we need to admit that our Government is broken, out of control, and no longer responsive to the people !!! We need to work together to JERK A KNOT in these fools asses. We can sort out our differences AFTER we sort out our Government. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1431110 United States 01/16/2013 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to start asking real questions and stop fighting with ourselves, our own education and thoughts on the real issues is what scares the crap out of them. Yet we fight day and night over how many bullets we can have, or what celebrity is pregnant. If even a small percentage of the population knew what power we really have, we could stand together and change the world without a shot being fired. Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence I agree as well, I think we can define the problem with a single word...Corruption. Rampent wide spread corruption on both sides of the Isle and at all levels of government. What fuels corruption? Money. If we don't get the money out of Politics we will never get control of our government. I would like to hear others thoughts on this. |
Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/16/2013 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 15 5*****'s Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431110 I for one would like to see this pinned for discussion. How 'bout it Mods? I would love to see it discussed also but I dont know if GLP has the balls to pin this. This is information that could be thought of as "dangerous". This Thread is about the truth, not lunatic Fringe conspiracy. I can understand why they would not draw attention to it. Keep bumping it and maybe enough will see it. Copy it and share it with everyone you know, let this information get out, now is not the time to give up. thanks for reading. "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32381748 United States 01/16/2013 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 545 vs. 300,000,000 People -By Charlie Reese Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them. Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits? Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes? You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does. You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does. You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does. You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does. You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does. One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country. I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank. I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes. Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party. What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.. ( The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.) The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House?( John Boehner. He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. ) If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to. [The House has passed a budget but the Senate has not approved a budget in over three years. The President's proposed budgets have gotten almost unanimous rejections in the Senate in that time. ] It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist. If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair. If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red. If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it's because they want them in Iraq and Afghanistan .. If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way. There are no insoluble government problems. Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do. Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible. They, and they alone, have the power. They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses. Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees... We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess! Excellent! |
Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/16/2013 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More like 300,000,000 lanky civilians against 545 plus 100,000,000 trained soldiers from everywhere. which in reality would make this whole situation a 545 vs. 20 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28885575 Not true, We the People have the power. We the People make up those armies. We the People protect that 545. We the People are the ones that gave them the Power. We the People can take it all away.. "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32381748 United States 01/16/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to start asking real questions and stop fighting with ourselves, our own education and thoughts on the real issues is what scares the crap out of them. Yet we fight day and night over how many bullets we can have, or what celebrity is pregnant. If even a small percentage of the population knew what power we really have, we could stand together and change the world without a shot being fired. Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence Thread: Obama Busy Disarming Americans While Arming Known Terrorist Groups Here's a thread with some real questions and facts. People seem to not like to discuss factual things much on here. They want to pontificate pet theories and predictions. |
ZEROeffect User ID: 21572434 Canada 01/16/2013 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 545 people that ruin the lives of millions here and billions everywhere else! Sounds like it's time to fight! If they wanted peace on this earth their would be. A fraction of what they spend on wars and corruption would go a long ways towards peace. Instead of bombing a village or city...they could send water pumps and generators and tractors and people to show them how to grow food, and teach children. Instead of killing a kids whole family just so that kid can grow up wanting to kill every american they can find....America could be sending medical staff to heal them, food to feed them, and teachers to teach them. |
Fizarak User ID: 21918331 United States 01/16/2013 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think we live in a world with the technology that we can be a true direct republic for the people and by the people. We don't need to hire/elect someone to go to Washington to vote for us anymore. We have the technology to communicate and vote on our own. There are security risks that would have to be fixed to keep things honest, but seriously isn't it time to start voting for what we want directly instead of indirectly hoping someone will vote for what we want? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540313 United States 01/16/2013 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 545 vs. 300,000,000 People -By Charlie Reese Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them. Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits? Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes? You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does. You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does. You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does. You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does. You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does. One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country. I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank. I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes. Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party. What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.. ( The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.) The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House?( John Boehner. He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. ) If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to. [The House has passed a budget but the Senate has not approved a budget in over three years. The President's proposed budgets have gotten almost unanimous rejections in the Senate in that time. ] It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist. If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair. If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red. If the Army & Marines are in Iraq and Afghanistan it's because they want them in Iraq and Afghanistan .. If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way. There are no insoluble government problems. Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do. Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible. They, and they alone, have the power. They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses. Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees... We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess! Well said. Now, however, this mess is too big to clean-up w/o millions dying in the process. |