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Sandy Hook Helo Footage BUSTED

 
aVian
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01/16/2013 03:21 PM
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supposed live video of the event THAT morning. Problem though. I live in the Northeast and I know where the sun rises and sets in the winter. This is AFTERNOON footage.

busted

parking lot side of the school faces north east, shadows are from the southwest which is in the afternoon at least 3:30 or 4:00

go to google maps and zoom in to the school then look at your direction map bars on the left. You see it?

[link to maps.google.com (secure)]

The shadows are in the parking lot (east side of building) so the sun is in the west.

This is not video of THAT morning. Its video of AN afternoon. Yet the voice over pilot is talking about it happening live on the sound track.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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01/16/2013 03:32 PM
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bump for further verification
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supposed live video of the event THAT morning. Problem though. I live in the Northeast and I know where the sun rises and sets in the winter. This is AFTERNOON footage.

busted

parking lot side of the school faces north east, shadows are from the southwest which is in the afternoon at least 3:30 or 4:00

go to google maps and zoom in to the school then look at your direction map bars on the left. You see it?

[link to maps.google.com (secure)]

The shadows are in the parking lot (east side of building) so the sun is in the west.

This is not video of THAT morning. Its video of AN afternoon. Yet the voice over pilot is talking about it happening live on the sound track.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Great catch!

Very interesting indeed....

For those of you who want verification, go to the 0:09 second mark in the video and pause it. Take a look at the shadows cast by the building, (The tress are a good sign too, but the building is more definite.) Now, while your video is paused, open up google earth and recreate that image you see from the helicopter.

You'll see that the school building has the parking lot on the East side, and the northernmost tip pf the school is that corner by the rounded edge of the parking lot.

That shadow is being cast from the South Southwest.
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01/16/2013 04:14 PM
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Well done, well done.

Even though this gives us one more piece of puzzle, where does it leads us ultimately?

I think we need a new compilation video featuring this and other evidence (such as the EMT road blockage and the fact that only one child was transported to the hospital from the scene). Could add the "where is Ms. Hammond?" aspect as well.
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I've calculated the position of the shadows and come to the conclusion the footage is between noon and 1:30pm
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Early on I recall someone saying that photos of the children were actually in the afternoon, not morning. Of course of I've also read that the photo of the kids, walking in a line with their eyes closed, wasn't even from Sandy Hook. So many lies, it's difficult to keep track. They should have hired a good continuity person for this farce.
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supposed live video of the event THAT morning. Problem though. I live in the Northeast and I know where the sun rises and sets in the winter. This is AFTERNOON footage.

busted

parking lot side of the school faces north east, shadows are from the southwest which is in the afternoon at least 3:30 or 4:00

go to google maps and zoom in to the school then look at your direction map bars on the left. You see it?

[link to maps.google.com (secure)]

The shadows are in the parking lot (east side of building) so the sun is in the west.

This is not video of THAT morning. Its video of AN afternoon. Yet the voice over pilot is talking about it happening live on the sound track.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: aVian 26776559


Thanks, OP!
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supposed live video of the event THAT morning. Problem though. I live in the Northeast and I know where the sun rises and sets in the winter. This is AFTERNOON footage.

busted

parking lot side of the school faces north east, shadows are from the southwest which is in the afternoon at least 3:30 or 4:00
 Quoting: aVian 26776559


I am afraid this isn't accurate.

You are correct that the parking lot lies North East of Sandy Hook School building, but if you go back to Google Earth, orient the satellite image so that up = North, you can use the measuring tool to calculate that the shadows are approximately 170 degrees (off North, measured clockwise). This equates to the sun being SOUTH SOUTH EAST.

Therefore these shots were definitely taken in the morning, and I would estimate between 9-10am.
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I suspected as much, good job OP!
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Am I the only person who doesn't hear the helicopter pilot speaking audibly anymore?
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supposed live video of the event THAT morning. Problem though. I live in the Northeast and I know where the sun rises and sets in the winter. This is AFTERNOON footage.

busted

parking lot side of the school faces north east, shadows are from the southwest which is in the afternoon at least 3:30 or 4:00
 Quoting: aVian 26776559


I am afraid this isn't accurate.

You are correct that the parking lot lies North East of Sandy Hook School building, but if you go back to Google Earth, orient the satellite image so that up = North, you can use the measuring tool to calculate that the shadows are approximately 170 degrees (off North, measured clockwise). This equates to the sun being SOUTH SOUTH EAST.

Therefore these shots were definitely taken in the morning, and I would estimate between 9-10am.
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No, it isn't accurate.

If the helo footage was taken in the AM in mid-December the building shadows should be oriented in exactly the direction shown in the helo footage.

To get a better idea of this, look at the small shed located in the lower center part of the helo footage at 37 seconds. The shadow points almost straight away from the shed into the parking lot.

Now go to google earth to view the same scene with your north oriented - which should be the default setting orientation. One can see that the sun would have to be to the southeast for the small shed's shadow to fall almost straight away from the shed into the parking lot. Based on the angle of the shadow and the season, I'd estimate the helo footage referenced in your post to have been taken at about 10:30 to 11:00 am.

It's also interesting to see from the google earth view that the "woods" behind the school was little more than one or two wooded lots.

OP, please correct your post or ask for it to be deleted. There's too much incorrect info floating around on this out already for you to be adding to it.

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