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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30688956 United States 01/16/2013 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is an excellent analysis, and I was thinking something similar. Obama is attempting to force resistance into a corner, and he is using our own children to do it. Quoting: Rising Son This is a strategy the leftists have been using for many years, wherever they gain power. In Canada, the push is on to allow police traffic stops with NO PROBABLE CAUSE - this push is being led by the left's favourite stooge - Mothers Against Drunk Driving. Who could be against mothers, or for drunk driving? Forget your liberty - it's on life support as long as Obamao is the prez.. They already do this in the US, it's called sobriety checkpoints. Also, the border patrol is setting up random checkpoints as far as 100 miles from the border. I expect in the next couple years they'll be authorized to set one up ANYWHERE they want. |
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moses767 User ID: 17182220 United States 01/16/2013 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After reading the posts from several threads after Obama's propaganda event today, I can say with all honesty, that we (2nd Amendment Supporters) have been played like a fiddle, and judging from the reactions of gun owners around the country, it has worked like a charm. Quoting: Saddletramp It became abundantly clear today that this is what just happened to us... Step 1: The Sandy Hook tragedy, use the deaths of children to move public opinion on guns. Frame the argument as being about Mental Health, Guns, and of course, Children... Step 2: Wait for concern among gun owners to build and push-back to begin... Step 3: Send Biden out with talk about Gun Control through Executive Orders. Then have the Media start talking about, and even demanding, gun and ammunition bans through Executive fiat... Step 4: Wait for major push back & active talk of Revolution to stop the tyranical infringment into our Bill of Rights. Stir the gun crowd into a frenzy, while media begins to call them "crazy"... Step 5: Come out with executive orders that don't "SEEM" to overreach or even threaten established limits on the 2nd Amendment. Then have the media seem disappointed and frame the Executive Actions as, "No big deal"... Step 6: Wait for everyone to breath a sigh of relief and push back to die down. Media continues labeling gun owners as "Mentally Ill"... Step 7: Lay Gun Bans and Ammo Bans off on congress so they can take the blame for the "next Sandy Hook", push the mental health gun confiscation angle through Obamacare while framing as many people as you possibly can "Mentally Ill", then putting them in a database to have their guns confiscated. Co-opt doctors as agents of the agenda since no one questions their authority in health issues... Step 8: Leave enough gun owners with guns so that no one becomes alarmed, but through existing paperwork you know who they are. Using the mental health angle to constantly whittle down the number of gun owners until they are a small minority and no longer any real threat to the agenda... My friends and countrymen, we have been played... All of these are precise and very ligitimate arguments!! But the main reason that they want your guns is to decide who will enslave you or kill you!! Will it be the new world order united nations police; or will it be the foreign troops that they have settled in Mexico or Canada; or will it be their muslim brotherhood who will be armed to the teeth in the very near future!!?? Last Edited by moses767 on 01/16/2013 07:27 PM |
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Hard Eight User ID: 8668963 United States 01/16/2013 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Govt. workers added since beast took office average 111/day. Govt. pay averages $84,000 yr. and with benefits $124,000 yr. That's another 162,000+ over the next 4 years to vote for his selection. Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
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phoomp User ID: 13267132 Canada 01/16/2013 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well there is some argument that Obama had to move off of his plan A speech this morning, to his plan B speech, therefore we should consider that a victory. Quoting: Saddletramp If indeed that is true, then our voices resounded so loudly that they would not risk open war with us. That's a pretty big "if" when it's based solely on an "insider". I'm certain I could find an "insider" to say exactly the opposite. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16455891 United States 01/16/2013 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well thought out and very possible theory. Quoting: *HEISENBERG* The term "Mentally ill" will be a very blanket term. 5* Trying to think like these people gives me a headache though... I probably better not say anything about the health of my head...pretty sure they are logging all of this... Just don't go to the doctor with that headache. He will likely prescribe you "Antidepressants" and that will be documented on your health records FOREVER, and since you were prescribed antidepressants, there can be no doubt that you Saddletramp are mentally unstable...... Better (legally) confiscate your guns for your own protection and everyone else's. BEWARE antidepressants prescriptions. My wife was diagnosed with fibromyalgia and one of her prescriptions was for antidepressants, she was like WTF??? She refused to buy them or take them. Watch your Doctor closely. |
Janus198 User ID: 875736 United States 01/16/2013 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What everyone is failing to understand, especially guntards is that TPTB don't want to disarm everyone. They only want to disarm dissidents, constitutionalists, patriots and freedom fighters. They don't care if the obedient sheep have guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32387997 That is why Sandy Hook media put out so many lies and inconsistencies on purpose to get the Conspiracy Theorists buzzing with activity. TPTB want to label truthers as mentally ill and then they will confiscate your guns and the sheep will approve of it. Boiling the frog. Step by step they are using the mental illness angle to confiscate guns from only those who are a threat to TPTB. That is their end game. TPTB want everyone disarmed, so they can reduce the population by 90%, till all that are left are total slaves without the mental capacity to understand liberty, much less fight for it. Janus198 |
Janus198 User ID: 875736 United States 01/16/2013 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After reading the posts from several threads after Obama's propaganda event today, I can say with all honesty, that we (2nd Amendment Supporters) have been played like a fiddle, and judging from the reactions of gun owners around the country, it has worked like a charm. Quoting: Saddletramp It became abundantly clear today that this is what just happened to us... Step 1: The Sandy Hook tragedy, use the deaths of children to move public opinion on guns. Frame the argument as being about Mental Health, Guns, and of course, Children... Step 2: Wait for concern among gun owners to build and push-back to begin... Step 3: Send Biden out with talk about Gun Control through Executive Orders. Then have the Media start talking about, and even demanding, gun and ammunition bans through Executive fiat... Step 4: Wait for major push back & active talk of Revolution to stop the tyranical infringment into our Bill of Rights. Stir the gun crowd into a frenzy, while media begins to call them "crazy"... Step 5: Come out with executive orders that don't "SEEM" to overreach or even threaten established limits on the 2nd Amendment. Then have the media seem disappointed and frame the Executive Actions as, "No big deal"... Step 6: Wait for everyone to breath a sigh of relief and push back to die down. Media continues labeling gun owners as "Mentally Ill"... Step 7: Lay Gun Bans and Ammo Bans off on congress so they can take the blame for the "next Sandy Hook", push the mental health gun confiscation angle through Obamacare while framing as many people as you possibly can "Mentally Ill", then putting them in a database to have their guns confiscated. Co-opt doctors as agents of the agenda since no one questions their authority in health issues... Step 8: Leave enough gun owners with guns so that no one becomes alarmed, but through existing paperwork you know who they are. Using the mental health angle to constantly whittle down the number of gun owners until they are a small minority and no longer any real threat to the agenda... My friends and countrymen, we have been played... I would call it an initial skirmish of the eventual war. Never make the mistake of thinking TPTB have finesse, or logic. Janus198 |
TTX8K82 User ID: 26400095 United States 01/16/2013 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After reading the posts from several threads after Obama's propaganda event today, I can say with all honesty, that we (2nd Amendment Supporters) have been played like a fiddle, and judging from the reactions of gun owners around the country, it has worked like a charm. Quoting: Saddletramp It became abundantly clear today that this is what just happened to us... Step 1: The Sandy Hook tragedy, use the deaths of children to move public opinion on guns. Frame the argument as being about Mental Health, Guns, and of course, Children... Step 2: Wait for concern among gun owners to build and push-back to begin... Step 3: Send Biden out with talk about Gun Control through Executive Orders. Then have the Media start talking about, and even demanding, gun and ammunition bans through Executive fiat... Step 4: Wait for major push back & active talk of Revolution to stop the tyranical infringment into our Bill of Rights. Stir the gun crowd into a frenzy, while media begins to call them "crazy"... Step 5: Come out with executive orders that don't "SEEM" to overreach or even threaten established limits on the 2nd Amendment. Then have the media seem disappointed and frame the Executive Actions as, "No big deal"... Step 6: Wait for everyone to breath a sigh of relief and push back to die down. Media continues labeling gun owners as "Mentally Ill"... Step 7: Lay Gun Bans and Ammo Bans off on congress so they can take the blame for the "next Sandy Hook", push the mental health gun confiscation angle through Obamacare while framing as many people as you possibly can "Mentally Ill", then putting them in a database to have their guns confiscated. Co-opt doctors as agents of the agenda since no one questions their authority in health issues... Step 8: Leave enough gun owners with guns so that no one becomes alarmed, but through existing paperwork you know who they are. Using the mental health angle to constantly whittle down the number of gun owners until they are a small minority and no longer any real threat to the agenda... My friends and countrymen, we have been played... 10-4, it's like a 1,000 paper cuts. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16455891 United States 01/16/2013 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are stupid enough to register your guns or hand them over to the gov, you don't deserve to have them as you would never use them for their intended use anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28752731 Damn right, this has been my mantra for years. If your Government turns you into a criminal with the swish of a pen and you hand over your guns, you deserve to have them taken... Not that I have any guns or anything. |
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Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 736969 Puerto Rico 01/16/2013 10:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well while everyone is basking in the glow of this great victory for "2nd Amendment advocates" today, I'm sure someone is busy in a back office somewhere making a list of all the "classifications" they are going to use to describe everyone as "Mentally Ill"... So if you think this is a victory...drink a beer for me... Alcoholism is a mental illness after all... Last Edited by Saddletramp on 01/16/2013 10:45 PM "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 736969 Puerto Rico 01/16/2013 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And right now everyone is thinking, well Obama's move today won't effect me... Ever been in Rehab? Ever been prescribed an Antidepressant, or a tranqualizer? Ever been diagnosed with a head injury? Do your kids take anything for ADHD, ADD, or Adolecent Bi-Polar disorder? Do you believe in God? Do you believe in the Constitution? Do you ask questions of authority? etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
momma coop User ID: 20442533 United States 01/17/2013 05:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And right now everyone is thinking, well Obama's move today won't effect me... Quoting: Saddletramp Ever been in Rehab? Ever been prescribed an Antidepressant, or a tranqualizer? Ever been diagnosed with a head injury? Do your kids take anything for ADHD, ADD, or Adolecent Bi-Polar disorder? Do you believe in God? Do you believe in the Constitution? Do you ask questions of authority? etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc... Here are current lists of known mental disorders. The lists are huge. [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to allpsych.com] [link to psychcentral.com] Here are just a few that could be just about anybody. Caffeine-related disorder: Most of America is addicted to Caffeine. Caffeine-induced sleep disorder: Did you have too much coffee today and you can't sleep? Cannabis dependence Cannabis withdrawal Catatonic disorder Catatonic schizophrenia Childhood amnesia: Do you remember everything from your childhood? Nicotine withdrawal Night eating syndrome: Ever wake up at night and grab a bite of the left over chinese food? Nightmare disorder Premature ejaculation Primary hypersomnia Primary insomnia Looking these over leads you to believe it would be very easy for them to take away guns based on a mental disorder. The power is yours. Take it back. In a world where you can choose to be anything, choose to be kind. |