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Common traits of all gun massacres in the past 4 years.

- all of them were declared false flag ops by the far right fringe;
- all of them caused gun confiscation paranoia;
- all of them caused surges of gun sales;
- none of them caused gun confiscation.

There are too many eye witnesses for Adam not to be at that school.

In 60 days the facts should start coming out.
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Have anyone check to see how many schools Lanza passed to get to Sandy hook?
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[link to www.usatoday.com]

He went to school there for a time and it was 5 minutes drive.
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I wonder if he strapped on all his magazines before he got in the car or after he arrived at the school.

He's reported to have had enough rounds on him to "kill every person in the school," so that's a lot of bullets to have on one's person while driving a Honda.

So maybe he did it once he arrived at the school. Would've taken a few moments to gear up. Risky, considering he easily could have been noticed by someone. Oh, but then again, he was crazy, so probably not capable of rational thought.

If only there were surveillance video from the school. It would put so many of these "crazy" conspiracy theories to rest.

Of course, so much time has elapsed that if they release one now, those pesky tin foil hat wearers will charge that said video is a fraud.
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I can't even fathom what it would be like, to be one of those parents that lost their child. Hearing that some people think it didn't happen. It was all a set up......Horrible :(
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I think most conspiracy people think it DID happen, they just don't think Adam did it.
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I DONT THINK THERE WERE REALLY ANY real PARENTSOF DEAD KIDS
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I can't even fathom what it would be like, to be one of those parents that lost their child. Hearing that some people think it didn't happen. It was all a set up......Horrible :(
 Quoting: Blue Skies


I think most conspiracy people think it DID happen, they just don't think Adam did it.
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iamwith


I DONT THINK THERE WERE REALLY ANY real PARENTSOF DEAD KIDS
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Thats your 16 year old mentality talking.

Hopefully you grow out of the moran stage..
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I know some people are questioning if the children were actually killed and saying that they are all actors. I think that is disinformation and I think the truth could be much worse and much darker - other people have touched on it but I'll leave that for now.

I agree that if this is to be used to infringe upon our inalienable rights then we have the right to ask a few questions.

1) Why were there so many FAKE stories that were being released the day of? I don't mean wrong stories, I mean FAKE stories like Ryan's girlfriend being killed or the slain principal giving an interview. The press needs to be held to a higher standard than us lowly keyboard investigators. There wouldn't be half of these conspiracies if they did their jobs well and followed up, in depth, as to HOW they got the story wrong. We need to have an honest and open discussion because this tragedy of misinformation is happening more and more.

2) What did Adam have on his person? In a court of law his defense attorney would try to prove that he was incapable of carrying so much equipment and at the same time be so efficient.

3) Why were no life-flight helicopters brought in to try to save anyone's life? Were these children not important enough to send a helicopter for? Was a helicopter sent and then turned around?

4) Who was taken to a hospital and when were they taken? The online evidence points to no one being taken to a hospital. Who made the decision that none of the 26 victims could be saved?

5) Why were the ambulances and EMS workers setup at the fire station and not the school? Who made that decision, and is it not clear to that person that in this situation every second wasted could have cost the life of one of these children? Keep in mind that these children are so important that we are talking about losing our inalienable rights that we have had for over 200 years - yet not important enough to make an honest attempt to save?

6) Who was controlling the traffic on the road? We have all seen the pictures. Even if anyone had made it to the ambulances they would never have been able to leave the scene. It was a complete failure by the police in charge of the scene. COMPLETE FAILURE. Who is going to take that responsibility?

7) How long did the lock down occur and when did the 600+ children start leaving the school?

8) Who were the other 2 or 3 people arrested? We understand everyone nearby should have been taken down and treated as a suspect. We don't need names but not answering leaves us to draw our own conclusions. We need to know if one of them ran from the police and if so why did that person take off running?

9) When were the parents first allowed to see the bodies of their children? Who decided that the bodies should be moved under cover of darkness? Can you not understand its just not how open/trustworthy people operate?
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I can't even fathom what it would be like, to be one of those parents that lost their child. Hearing that some people think it didn't happen. It was all a set up......Horrible :(
 Quoting: Blue Skies


I think most conspiracy people think it DID happen, they just don't think Adam did it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32381683

I would hope so. When I see these threads about some of the parents being actors.....Makes me want to puck.
 Quoting: Blue Skies


I never bought in to the fact that parents didn't lose there children that day. I do believe what I saw from the parents on tv did look fake but I also know everyone acts differently when processing emotions so I never commented because it would be rude and ugly to do so while these people are processing their grief. However, I would normally expect the same courtesy extended back to "IMO" misguided conspiracy nuts in the wake of a national tragedy told by media who mingled the story and used by a gov't pushing an agenda to also understand how some citizens may also not be processing this as they are "supposed" to. It's hypocrisy.
I can forgive the parents because they may be going through the anger stage but BOTH sides have a right to say and be who they are even if it goes against social norms--they have that right, today, anyway...tomorrow may be a different story.

The only thing that was weird is I didn't see ONE eye welled up in tears, NOT ONE. Never would I comment until now when MY people (whom I don't agree with over this) start to get scolded.
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He put up to 11 rounds in each kid.
Including in the face.

This is crucial though:

"Why were there so many FAKE stories that were being released the day of? I don't mean wrong stories, I mean FAKE stories like Ryan's girlfriend being killed or the slain principal giving an interview. The press needs to be held to a higher standard than us lowly keyboard investigators. There wouldn't be half of these conspiracies if they did their jobs well and followed up, in depth, as to HOW they got the story wrong. We need to have an honest and open discussion because this tragedy of misinformation is happening more and more."
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Look to the hard drive. Lanza *physically* destroyed the hard drive of his computer before going on the rampage. Psychologist will tell you this IS highly unusua - this is supposedly an event to rectify a wrong in Lanzas mind, to fix things, to get retribution. They want people to finally understand. A computer fills this role perfectly. The silent uncritical companion that holds your thought, your justification, if you will.

He didnt destroy that hard drive IMO. I reckon he was in contact with his handlers who through discussions in private forums planted seeds and guided direction to make this happen. They destroyed the drive to cover their tracks in caes Lanza took screens host and to destroy computer temp files, browser cache, history,registry etc.

You're going out on a suicide mission why do you care about who sees your computer ???

There is a trail to follow at his ISP. There will be someone on this board who can get the info on this trail..... Question is are they brave enough to do this... For the sake of all the children that did die.
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read the comments...people are going to write it off so easily.
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People aren't going to write it off so easily.
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yes...they are!

Sandy Hook will be another 9/11.
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Look to the hard drive. Lanza *physically* destroyed the hard drive of his computer before going on the rampage. Psychologist will tell you this IS highly unusua - this is supposedly an event to rectify a wrong in Lanzas mind, to fix things, to get retribution. They want people to finally understand. A computer fills this role perfectly. The silent uncritical companion that holds your thought, your justification, if you will.
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I forgot about the HD. I don't think the police can answer that but it does point to something unusual and people asking questions are supposed to be demonized for that?
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Look to the hard drive. Lanza *physically* destroyed the hard drive of his computer before going on the rampage. Psychologist will tell you this IS highly unusua - this is supposedly an event to rectify a wrong in Lanzas mind, to fix things, to get retribution. They want people to finally understand. A computer fills this role perfectly. The silent uncritical companion that holds your thought, your justification, if you will.

He didnt destroy that hard drive IMO. I reckon he was in contact with his handlers who through discussions in private forums planted seeds and guided direction to make this happen. They destroyed the drive to cover their tracks in caes Lanza took screens host and to destroy computer temp files, browser cache, history,registry etc.

You're going out on a suicide mission why do you care about who sees your computer ???

There is a trail to follow at his ISP. There will be someone on this board who can get the info on this trail..... Question is are they brave enough to do this... For the sake of all the children that did die.
 Quoting: Bob 1449133


He probably felt embarassment because of all the strange porn on there...Maybe he had accomplaces? Maybe he just wanted to fuck with us...
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I can't even fathom what it would be like, to be one of those parents that lost their child. Hearing that some people think it didn't happen. It was all a set up......Horrible :(
 Quoting: Blue Skies


I think most conspiracy people think it DID happen, they just don't think Adam did it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32381683

I would hope so. When I see these threads about some of the parents being actors.....Makes me want to puck.
 Quoting: Blue Skies


I never bought in to the fact that parents didn't lose there children that day. I do believe what I saw from the parents on tv did look fake but I also know everyone acts differently when processing emotions so I never commented because it would be rude and ugly to do so while these people are processing their grief. However, I would normally expect the same courtesy extended back to "IMO" misguided conspiracy nuts in the wake of a national tragedy told by media who mingled the story and used by a gov't pushing an agenda to also understand how some citizens may also not be processing this as they are "supposed" to. It's hypocrisy.
I can forgive the parents because they may be going through the anger stage but BOTH sides have a right to say and be who they are even if it goes against social norms--they have that right, today, anyway...tomorrow may be a different story.

The only thing that was weird is I didn't see ONE eye welled up in tears, NOT ONE. Never would I comment until now when MY people (whom I don't agree with over this) start to get scolded.
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Right. People process or manifest emotions differently.
Yet, every single parent showed virtually no emotion or a sense of weird happiness and comments of the best day of their life because how they were blessed by this event.

None blamed a shooter. None were angry their child was allegedly murdered.

How come ALL acted in this same "off" manner since people should act differently. Supposedly.

I know and have seen in my own family of four different parents who outlived their children or lost babies and young children. None behaved as these people.
They were all inconsolable, and full of anguish and tears of sorrow.
Not so these batch of fakey weirdos.
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The obvious tactic of the mainstream media right now is to lump all skeptics of the official story into one homogenous bunch.

Not everyone who doubts the official story claims that Sandy Hook never happened or that no one died.
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I can't even fathom what it would be like, to be one of those parents that lost their child. Hearing that some people think it didn't happen. It was all a set up......Horrible :(
 Quoting: Blue Skies


I think most conspiracy people think it DID happen, they just don't think Adam did it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32381683


^This^ and ^This^

It's possible there are many dead. However, I have doubts as to who. I think the ones we haven't heard from, the ones that are truly grieving and not hamming it up for the TV or trying to get a dime from any source, those that aren't snuggling up to officials and MSN and local news banks and smiling like it's party time, those are the ones who you know truly lost someone. And it's so sad to know their child is a sacrifice to others. Whether it be Lanza or someone else with a darker agenda. Truthfully I don't even know if Lanza exists. He's been a ghost, a shadow of someone alive, far longer than after his death. Funny how his brother looks just like him after seeing some real pictures of him instead of that first grainy one(where did they get that pic from, a fifties or sixties vintage camera?)

The truth is there are so many holes in the stories that come out of Sandy Hook that if I were a parent of one of those children I would not be still. My heart would want to find truth and justice. If Lanza did this alone why didn't more get away? He obviously had problems. His barber wanted to kill him because he wouldn't pay attention. Autism? Something worse? Why wouldn't kids start running all over each other? Knocking each other over in herd-like fashion like they do for everything else at that age? Why was not one rescue team allowed in the building to be sure there wasn't one survivor? What? They haven't seen blood before? Trained for it? Lived with the knowledge everyday that they may come upon something like that someday? Please! They would have mired themselves in the blood just to save one still-breathing person in that building!

Where were the 600 students? How did they get them out without one media picture of hordes of screaming crying, parents, kids, and disaster aide workers surrounding Sandy Hook? Why would they set up triage (which really wasn't so because anybody that made it out was un-harmed, save for one injured survivor who has yet to speak) at the firehouse so far away and not at Sandy Hook, where the victims were?


We won't even get into the guy who brought 6 kids into his house instead of into the firehouse after waving their bus driver who dropped them off away. Are you kidding me? How are those children in a bus? And why is it dropping little children off at his driveway and then waiting til he finds them in a circle on the end of said driveway until waved away? Are you kidding me?

I'm sure there are victims. The grieving parents are victims. Those that were killed that day were victims. Those that didn't set up a donation fund 2 hours after the school day began are victims. All those that question the validity of a story that might harm our future in America as free citizens are victims.

There is a saying in those that have been burned by others in one way or another. It goes, "Trust, but verify." Very important words for those who want to keep truth in journalism no matter how sick it makes us are doing just that. Still, everyday the trust is getting harder to come by when confronted with people lying straight to your face from the TV box. Some of those, we are trusting with our lives. Don't be a victim too.
LEARN HOW TO BE KIND OR BE LEFT BEHIND. OXOXO
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The obvious tactic of the mainstream media right now is to lump all skeptics of the official story into one homogenous bunch.

Not everyone who doubts the official story claims that Sandy Hook never happened or that no one died.
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


I can't even fathom what it would be like, to be one of those parents that lost their child. Hearing that some people think it didn't happen. It was all a set up......Horrible :(
 Quoting: Blue Skies


I think most conspiracy people think it DID happen, they just don't think Adam did it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32381683


^This^ and ^This^

It's possible there are many dead. However, I have doubts as to who. I think the ones we haven't heard from, the ones that are truly grieving and not hamming it up for the TV or trying to get a dime from any source, those that aren't snuggling up to officials and MSN and local news banks and smiling like it's party time, those are the ones who you know truly lost someone. And it's so sad to know their child is a sacrifice to others. Whether it be Lanza or someone else with a darker agenda. Truthfully I don't even know if Lanza exists. He's been a ghost, a shadow of someone alive, far longer than after his death. Funny how his brother looks just like him after seeing some real pictures of him instead of that first grainy one(where did they get that pic from, a fifties or sixties vintage camera?)

The truth is there are so many holes in the stories that come out of Sandy Hook that if I were a parent of one of those children I would not be still. My heart would want to find truth and justice. If Lanza did this alone why didn't more get away? He obviously had problems. His barber wanted to kill him because he wouldn't pay attention. Autism? Something worse? Why wouldn't kids start running all over each other? Knocking each other over in herd-like fashion like they do for everything else at that age? Why was not one rescue team allowed in the building to be sure there wasn't one survivor? What? They haven't seen blood before? Trained for it? Lived with the knowledge everyday that they may come upon something like that someday? Please! They would have mired themselves in the blood just to save one still-breathing person in that building!

Where were the 600 students? How did they get them out without one media picture of hordes of screaming crying, parents, kids, and disaster aide workers surrounding Sandy Hook? Why would they set up triage (which really wasn't so because anybody that made it out was un-harmed, save for one injured survivor who has yet to speak) at the firehouse so far away and not at Sandy Hook, where the victims were?


We won't even get into the guy who brought 6 kids into his house instead of into the firehouse after waving their bus driver who dropped them off away. Are you kidding me? How are those children in a bus? And why is it dropping little children off at his driveway and then waiting til he finds them in a circle on the end of said driveway until waved away? Are you kidding me?

I'm sure there are victims. The grieving parents are victims. Those that were killed that day were victims. Those that didn't set up a donation fund 2 hours after the school day began are victims. All those that question the validity of a story that might harm our future in America as free citizens are victims.

There is a saying in those that have been burned by others in one way or another. It goes, "Trust, but verify." Very important words for those who want to keep truth in journalism no matter how sick it makes us are doing just that. Still, everyday the trust is getting harder to come by when confronted with people lying straight to your face from the TV box. Some of those, we are trusting with our lives. Don't be a victim too.
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Out of 300 million people thre are plenty of lunatics.

Sounds like this guy had one hell of a freaky mother and had access to 50 guns.

I think he acted out of pure RAAAGE at society.

He hates us all and wanted to be hated and infamous.

If the govt were to have planned this attack, why the fuck would they be careless enough to have leaked all these early tribute pages and blogs several days early?

Why would they pay actors, when each one would able to reveal the plot at any time?

Conspiracies involving hundreds of people are impossible to contain.

You all must think the NSA/CIA are incompetent?

If I were to plot this, I'd involve as few people as possible.

This "conspiracy" is manufactured and desperate.

3 things you should Google:

Cognitive dissonance
Occam's razor
Plausible deniability

This conspiracy is all about website hits and political skullduggery.

This bullshit is paying some website owner's bills, that's for damn sure.
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According to your way of thinking it is impossible to keep any plan secret involving hundreds of people.

I suggest that instead of using certain clichéed code phrases (Cognitive dissonance/Occam's razor/Plausible deniability -- with which 99 per cent of GLP readers are totally familiar, and which actually do not prove your point, but just the opposite) that instead you take some of your former school teachers to court and sue them for depriving you of any understanding of modern history.

The following well-known events were all kept secret by hundreds of people:

* The Invasion of Normandy, Operation Overlord, June 6, 1944 (Wikipedia article explains in detail)

In the months leading up to the invasion, the Allied forces conducted a deception operation, Operation Fortitude, aimed at misleading the Germans with respect to the date and place of the invasion.

The Allies assigned codenames to the various operations involved in the invasion. "Overlord" was the name assigned to the establishment of a large-scale lodgement on the northern portion of the Continent. The first phase, the establishment of a secure foothold, was codenamed "Neptune."

Officers with knowledge of D-Day were not to be sent where there was the slightest danger of being captured. These officers were given the codename of "Bigot", derived from the words "To Gib" (To Gibraltar) that was stamped on the papers of officers who took part in the North African invasion in 1942.

* The Manhattan Project

Starting in 1942, the U.S. government began quietly acquiring more than 60,000 acres in Eastern Tennessee for the Manhattan Project -- the secret World War II program that developed the atomic bomb. The government needed land to build massive facilities to refine and develop nuclear materials for these new weapons, without attracting the attention of enemy spies. The result was a secret town named Oak Ridge that housed tens of thousands of workers and their families. The entire town and facility were fenced in, with armed guards posted at all entries. Workers were sworn to secrecy and only informed of the specific tasks they needed to perform. Most were unaware of the exact nature of their final product until the nuclear bombs were dropped on Japan in 1945. [link to www.theatlantic.com]

* Operation Paperclip (Wikipedia article explains in detail)

Operation Paperclip was the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) program used to recruit the scientists of Nazi Germany for employment by the United States in the aftermath of World War II (1939Ė45). It was conducted by the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA), and in the context of the burgeoning SovietĖAmerican Cold War (1945Ė91). One purpose of Operation Paperclip was to deny German scientific knowledge and expertise to the USSR, the U.K., and East Germany.

Although the JIOA's recruitment of German scientists began after the European Allied victory (8 May 1945), U.S. President Harry Truman did not formally order the implementation of Operation Paperclip until August 1945. Truman's order expressly excluded anyone found "to have been a member of the Nazi Party, and more than a nominal participant in its activities, or an active supporter of Nazi militarism".

However, those restrictions would have rendered ineligible most of the leading scientists the JIOA had identified for recruitment, among them rocket scientists Wernher von Braun and Arthur Rudolph, and the physician Hubertus Strughold, each earlier classified as a "menace to the security of the Allied Forces".

To circumvent President Truman's anti-Nazi order and the Allied Potsdam and Yalta agreements, the JIOA worked independently to create false employment and political biographies for the scientists. The JIOA also expunged from the public record the scientists' Nazi Party memberships and régime affiliations. Once "bleached" of their Nazism, the US government granted the scientists security clearance to work in the United States.

Conclusion:

Admittedly the above conspiracies were successful because of secrets kept by military and intelligence personnel.

Now just who do you suppose is keeping the secrets of the conspiracies in your lifetime?

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How can one explain the picture of the supposed dead girl Emily sitting on Obama's lap at the memorial service? This is one in at least a hundred questions people refuse to answer. Maybe because it's all BULLSHIT.

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How can one explain the picture of the supposed dead girl Emily sitting on Obama's lap at the memorial service? This is one in at least a hundred questions people refuse to answer. Maybe because it's all BULLSHIT.


 Quoting: jack of all trades


There's a lot of people that think that's the younger sister in her dress. You may think it's obvious it's Emily, I think your wrong. I'm not the only one. Believe whatever you want but some people aren't answering because they think you're reaching, they are being nice to you and not wasting their own time answering on something they think is obvious to everyone else. This is my theory on why no one has answered your question about her on Obamas lap.
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I just want to know how many gunmen there were. The dad doesn't know that answer, he only knows that kids died.
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Glen Beck has credibility? With who?
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parakeets.

nah, they think hes a clown too.
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Because people never act from RAGE alone??? Damaged, repressed, frustrated, hateful people DO ACTUALLY EXIST.

Just because false flags exist, doesnt make this one.

The main point is that the US govt doesn't really care about your guns and there is very little that they can do to take them from you.

They have developed better weapons:

Microwave weapons,
Smoke/shock grenades,
Attack drones,
Total Surveillance,
Acoustic weapons,
Nerve agents,
Bio weapons,
Neutron/gamma radiation,
etc, etc.

The govt has better toys than Glocks and AR-15s!!

Prepare to be nerve gassed, passified by microwave and sent to the camps dribbling from your new brain implant.
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Guns are like cavemen with sticks compared to the types of weapon technology that really exist now, yes.
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I know some people are questioning if the children were actually killed and saying that they are all actors. I think that is disinformation and I think the truth could be much worse and much darker - other people have touched on it but I'll leave that for now.

I agree that if this is to be used to infringe upon our inalienable rights then we have the right to ask a few questions.

1) Why were there so many FAKE stories that were being released the day of? I don't mean wrong stories, I mean FAKE stories like Ryan's girlfriend being killed or the slain principal giving an interview. The press needs to be held to a higher standard than us lowly keyboard investigators. There wouldn't be half of these conspiracies if they did their jobs well and followed up, in depth, as to HOW they got the story wrong. We need to have an honest and open discussion because this tragedy of misinformation is happening more and more.

2) What did Adam have on his person? In a court of law his defense attorney would try to prove that he was incapable of carrying so much equipment and at the same time be so efficient.

3) Why were no life-flight helicopters brought in to try to save anyone's life? Were these children not important enough to send a helicopter for? Was a helicopter sent and then turned around?

4) Who was taken to a hospital and when were they taken? The online evidence points to no one being taken to a hospital. Who made the decision that none of the 26 victims could be saved?

5) Why were the ambulances and EMS workers setup at the fire station and not the school? Who made that decision, and is it not clear to that person that in this situation every second wasted could have cost the life of one of these children? Keep in mind that these children are so important that we are talking about losing our inalienable rights that we have had for over 200 years - yet not important enough to make an honest attempt to save?

6) Who was controlling the traffic on the road? We have all seen the pictures. Even if anyone had made it to the ambulances they would never have been able to leave the scene. It was a complete failure by the police in charge of the scene. COMPLETE FAILURE. Who is going to take that responsibility?

7) How long did the lock down occur and when did the 600+ children start leaving the school?

8) Who were the other 2 or 3 people arrested? We understand everyone nearby should have been taken down and treated as a suspect. We don't need names but not answering leaves us to draw our own conclusions. We need to know if one of them ran from the police and if so why did that person take off running?

9) When were the parents first allowed to see the bodies of their children? Who decided that the bodies should be moved under cover of darkness? Can you not understand its just not how open/trustworthy people operate?
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Fuck Glenn Beck and his bullshit.
He is a faker: [link to www.youtube.com]
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While some people ask for more proof that anyone was killed, I have no doubt that 26 people were murdered.

My question is who did the killing? I am almost certain it was not the Adam kid. Isn't it now well known that there were no assault rifles or shotguns found inside the building? Its all over NBC that there was only 4 handguns found.

So you tell me, how did all those people get killed with long gun shots like the coroner stated?

I believe that our own government killed those people, just to further their agenda. They will do the same to us given a chance. People just cannot believe our government doing something like this, but they also forget these people detest America.

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The obvious tactic of the mainstream media right now is to lump all skeptics of the official story into one homogenous bunch.

Not everyone who doubts the official story claims that Sandy Hook never happened or that no one died.
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While some people ask for more proof that anyone was killed, I have no doubt that 26 people were murdered.

My question is who did the killing? I am almost certain it was not the Adam kid. Isn't it now well known that there were no assault rifles or shotguns found inside the building? Its all over NBC that there was only 4 handguns found.

So you tell me, how did all those people get killed with long gun shots like the coroner stated?

I believe that our own government killed those people, just to further their agenda. They will do the same to us given a chance. People just cannot believe our government doing something like this, but they also forget these people detest America.

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That NBC report was in the early stages of the unfolding story and was either bad reporting or misinformation. Carver said the kids were killed by the "long gun" and the police scanner has a first responder mentioning there was a "rifle and a shotgun" found at the scene. But this was BEFORE the guns were taken out of the car.
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The obvious tactic of the mainstream media right now is to lump all skeptics of the official story into one homogenous bunch.

Not everyone who doubts the official story claims that Sandy Hook never happened or that no one died.
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Exactly.

Transparent strawman propaganda trick. Shameless "debunkers"
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I know some people are questioning if the children were actually killed and saying that they are all actors. I think that is disinformation and I think the truth could be much worse and much darker - other people have touched on it but I'll leave that for now.

I agree that if this is to be used to infringe upon our inalienable rights then we have the right to ask a few questions.

1) Why were there so many FAKE stories that were being released the day of? I don't mean wrong stories, I mean FAKE stories like Ryan's girlfriend being killed or the slain principal giving an interview. The press needs to be held to a higher standard than us lowly keyboard investigators. There wouldn't be half of these conspiracies if they did their jobs well and followed up, in depth, as to HOW they got the story wrong. We need to have an honest and open discussion because this tragedy of misinformation is happening more and more.

2) What did Adam have on his person? In a court of law his defense attorney would try to prove that he was incapable of carrying so much equipment and at the same time be so efficient.

3) Why were no life-flight helicopters brought in to try to save anyone's life? Were these children not important enough to send a helicopter for? Was a helicopter sent and then turned around?

Thanks for this reasonable post.
Now to the Glenn Beck issue: People who listen to these types of talk shows are fearful of being outsiders or too far away from the pack. So they pack together thinking they are above and different. This can turn on a dime.
Someone should keep track of the likes and dislikes on the 8+ million facebook video. Now it is 5 likes to one dislike. I strongly suspect the like ratio to go up
4) Who was taken to a hospital and when were they taken? The online evidence points to no one being taken to a hospital. Who made the decision that none of the 26 victims could be saved?

5) Why were the ambulances and EMS workers setup at the fire station and not the school? Who made that decision, and is it not clear to that person that in this situation every second wasted could have cost the life of one of these children? Keep in mind that these children are so important that we are talking about losing our inalienable rights that we have had for over 200 years - yet not important enough to make an honest attempt to save?

6) Who was controlling the traffic on the road? We have all seen the pictures. Even if anyone had made it to the ambulances they would never have been able to leave the scene. It was a complete failure by the police in charge of the scene. COMPLETE FAILURE. Who is going to take that responsibility?

7) How long did the lock down occur and when did the 600+ children start leaving the school?

8) Who were the other 2 or 3 people arrested? We understand everyone nearby should have been taken down and treated as a suspect. We don't need names but not answering leaves us to draw our own conclusions. We need to know if one of them ran from the police and if so why did that person take off running?

9) When were the parents first allowed to see the bodies of their children? Who decided that the bodies should be moved under cover of darkness? Can you not understand its just not how open/trustworthy people operate?
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I think the kid was a patsy. They killed him and his mother, and the kids for reasons unknown to us.
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I also believe that. Two shooters plus Adam the patsy. Contract killers hired by someone or some person with an agenda.
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Glenn Beck? Really?

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Beck and Owl Man are all over this..ask yourself WHY?

Why are they obsessed with knocking down a straw man for TPTB instead of addressing the obvious journalistic points.

SOMETHING IS VERY MYSTERIOUS ABOUT THIS. Maybe even more illuminating than what we know about the original massacre.
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2 words. Medical examiner. Nuff said.

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