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Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare

 
waht

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Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
WINDBER, Pa. (AP) — A southwestern Pennsylvania hospital will stop delivering babies after March 31 because its obstetricians are either leaving or refocusing their practices, and because hospital officials believe they can't afford it based on projected reimbursements under looming federal health care reforms.

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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
Mid wives anyone ?
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
Mid wives anyone ?
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Yeah no kidding
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Wow...
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01/16/2013 09:58 PM
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
I believe many small community hospitals will close.
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
Well, have them at home. That is the way they use to do it. BooHoo, won't have an epidural? Maybe you won't be so apt to get pregnant!
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01/16/2013 10:17 PM
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
Meh, I use a midwife and have them at home.
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01/16/2013 10:19 PM
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
Would it help if doctors did not earn an astronomically high salary.
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01/16/2013 10:22 PM
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
What we need is government to stop paying taker women who pop kid after kid.

When 60-70% of deliveries are medicaid paid. You know there's a problem.

And yes, that is the case at the local hospital here.

What's even more disturbing is that out of the 30-40% remainder, almost half are "birthing tourists" coming here to have anchor babies.
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
some county hospitals in Tx closed years ago since so many illegals were coming over to have their babies there. Maybe they will stay home now....

If we could only repeal the anchor baby law, the problem would take care of itself.
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01/16/2013 10:29 PM
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
Mid wives anyone ?
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YES ABSOLUTELY!This just shows how the hospitals and obstetricians have been robbing the system!I am a retired physician so I do know what I am talking about!
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01/16/2013 10:35 PM
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Mid wives anyone ?
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YES ABSOLUTELY!This just shows how the hospitals and obstetricians have been robbing the system!I am a retired physician so I do know what I am talking about!
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So, you are saying that is what we should go back to?
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01/16/2013 10:38 PM
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Mid wives anyone ?
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YES ABSOLUTELY!This just shows how the hospitals and obstetricians have been robbing the system!I am a retired physician so I do know what I am talking about!
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So, you are saying that is what we should go back to?
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That is how we do it

Midwifery is a 3 year course and then most babies are delivered this way here.

Not at hospitals with doctors

Unless you are super high risk
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01/16/2013 10:46 PM
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Just push it out.
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GUgh, no thanks!uess we will go back to having children in agony? Ugh, no thanks!
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My post was messed up! Anyway, hope we don't go back to unmedicated childbirth.
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It's going to be interesting how midwives are going to perform c-sections.
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01/16/2013 11:02 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if this country loses 30% of our doctors...maybe more.

Take all that schooling for something else and make better pay with better hours.

Internship for doctors is basically slavery
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I believe many small community hospitals will close.
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This is the goal. The reimbursements are much larger, for the same service, if you are a big urban hospital. Much smaller if you are a rural hospital.

Makes no sense at all, unless they want to kill small local hospitals and force everyone into big urban HIV-treatment center teaching hospitals.
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It's going to be interesting how midwives are going to perform c-sections.
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there are too many ceasareans as it is.
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
I wouldn't be surprised if this country loses 30% of our doctors...maybe more.

Take all that schooling for something else and make better pay with better hours.

Internship for doctors is basically slavery
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Cry me a river, other fields pay even worse. Doctors in the USA have the longest training anywhere, but also by far the highest pay.

What was REALLY needed was not the big Obamacare bureaucracy, but to lower payments to doctors and drug companies. That would have lowered healthcare costs. Everyone else (except gov't employees) is taking pay cuts.

But of course Obama used the crisis, not to fix the crisis, but as a lever to get his Communist system installed and very difficult to get rid of in the future. Once there are Electronic Health Records, can you undo it??
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
WINDBER, Pa. (AP) — A southwestern Pennsylvania hospital will stop delivering babies after March 31 because its obstetricians are either leaving or refocusing their practices, and because hospital officials believe they can't afford it based on projected reimbursements under looming federal health care reforms.

Read more: [link to www.myfoxny.com]
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....but....but....but....


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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
It's going to be interesting how midwives are going to perform c-sections.
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there are too many ceasareans as it is.
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Too many fat babies.
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01/17/2013 01:35 AM
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
China's One-child policy coming to America.
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
China's One-child policy coming to America.
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One illegal immigrant per state would be more useful.
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
China's One-child policy coming to America.
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How will the hispanics and blacks cope.
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01/17/2013 01:41 AM
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
With all the MRSA and other germs a hospital is really not a safe environment for a newborn. My opinion
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01/17/2013 01:47 AM
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
I think it's best that mid wives help deliver babies in any case.

However, those times where C Sections or other specialized care become necessary - would the woman be rushed to an Emergency department or what?
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
Mid wives anyone ?
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YES ABSOLUTELY!This just shows how the hospitals and obstetricians have been robbing the system!I am a retired physician so I do know what I am talking about!
 Quoting: Childoflight 5027962


I'll second that one! I studied medicine and delivered all my kids at home. All are now healthy adults and doing well for themselves.
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01/17/2013 01:59 AM
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Re: Hospital to stop delivering babies because of Obamacare
I wouldn't be surprised if this country loses 30% of our doctors...maybe more.

Take all that schooling for something else and make better pay with better hours.

Internship for doctors is basically slavery
 Quoting: TDJ


Cry me a river, other fields pay even worse. Doctors in the USA have the longest training anywhere, but also by far the highest pay.

What was REALLY needed was not the big Obamacare bureaucracy, but to lower payments to doctors and drug companies. That would have lowered healthcare costs. Everyone else (except gov't employees) is taking pay cuts.

But of course Obama used the crisis, not to fix the crisis, but as a lever to get his Communist system installed and very difficult to get rid of in the future. Once there are Electronic Health Records, can you undo it??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32259756


1)Doctors in the US work more hours than other doctors in other countries.
2)Doctors in the US are subject to lawsuits that are worse than any other country.

The average PCP makes about 120-140k a year. Their work hours are in the range of 60-80/week.

For the same amount of education + training, (4 years college, 4 years medical school, 3 years of internship+residency = 11 years), you can get a degree in another field and make more money per hour with less risk of law suits.

In the end, not everyone goes into medicine to make money and although there are fields that make a lot of money, i.e. neurosurgery or ortho spine fields - they also carry the most training and the most risk.

Doctor's salaries have been stagnant for several years and that's because doctors have been working more hours to maintain their pay.

However, more and more physicians can't take the overhead and are being employed by hospitals than can better absorb that overhead with their staff and offices.

Last Edited by Sbert on 01/17/2013 02:01 AM

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