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ru1im2 User ID: 32416615 Mongolia 01/17/2013 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean I get it. It fills a certain void to view the whole thing from the conspiracy angle, but this one more than any conspiracy theory has a shelf life of about a week before you have to face reality here. Sorry, but you are in fact the idiot here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29489687 So, apparently you can answer above question, one of the first and most glaring inconsistencies in the whole media story? How do you get an eyewitness account from a dead person and then- NEVER MIND... Last Edited by RU1IM2 on 01/17/2013 02:02 AM |
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ru1im2 User ID: 32416615 Mongolia 01/17/2013 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This media coverage was horrible for very good reasons, and you really think relaying a heroic death to the public out of respect to the victim is completely out of the question? What do you expect from the media, forensic science? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29489687 Since you don't have many facts of the incident, it makes no sense to debate this with you. But I will arm you with a few facts just in case someone else here has info that may be worthwhile. The NEWTOWN BEE, the local paper in the school's area, printed an article containing an interview with Principal Dawn Hochsprung giving details of the assailant and the number of shots fired. [link to imageshack.us] Then the article was removed from the site and since then there has been no retraction or correction made as to who was actually interviewed mistakenly or what the exact mix up was. Please stop using the emotional angle as a way to get people to not ask any more questions regarding these many strange inconsistencies in the official story. It makes you seem like a shill. If your emotions are so out of control that your brain does not operate at peak efficiency, then please don't enter the debate. Thank you. |
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moondrop User ID: 28418966 Canada 01/17/2013 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean I get it. It fills a certain void to view the whole thing from the conspiracy angle, but this one more than any conspiracy theory has a shelf life of about a week before you have to face reality here. Sorry, but you are in fact the idiot here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29489687 So, apparently you can answer above question, one of the first and most glaring inconsistencies in the whole media story? How do you get an eyewitness account from a dead person and then- NEVER MIND... We should all write to the Newtown Bee and ask for an answer to precisely that question. Who was it that took this interview and as it obviously wasn't the principal, would they please find out who it was that was interviewed. |
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ru1im2 User ID: 32416615 Mongolia 01/17/2013 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean I get it. It fills a certain void to view the whole thing from the conspiracy angle, but this one more than any conspiracy theory has a shelf life of about a week before you have to face reality here. Sorry, but you are in fact the idiot here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29489687 So, apparently you can answer above question, one of the first and most glaring inconsistencies in the whole media story? How do you get an eyewitness account from a dead person and then- NEVER MIND... We should all write to the Newtown Bee and ask for an answer to precisely that question. Who was it that took this interview and as it obviously wasn't the principal, would they please find out who it was that was interviewed. Yes, according to police spokesperson vance, that would be a FEDERAL CRIME and worthy of immediate arrest! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29489687 United States 01/17/2013 02:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Don't enter the debate! I want to believe all this bull shit!" It doesn't mean anything other than human error in the midst of what is easily the most vile tragedy a small community could ever experience. If you've ever lived in a small town that has a newspaper or a community website, than you know they are about as efficient as your grandma's computer skills. You can't expect New York Times editorial benchmarks from the Newtown Bee. It's all very offensive what you guys are doing. To the point of comedy actually, so that makes it a little easier to bear. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1507912 United States 01/17/2013 02:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Don't enter the debate! I want to believe all this bull shit!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29489687 It doesn't mean anything other than human error in the midst of what is easily the most vile tragedy a small community could ever experience. If you've ever lived in a small town that has a newspaper or a community website, than you know they are about as efficient as your grandma's computer skills. You can't expect New York Times editorial benchmarks from the Newtown Bee. It's all very offensive what you guys are doing. To the point of comedy actually, so that makes it a little easier to bear. I don't like it either, but it stinks to high heaven. Obama photo op with the children was to much. Taking gun for the children you know. It is crap! This was another no gun area. |
moondrop User ID: 28418966 Canada 01/17/2013 02:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean I get it. It fills a certain void to view the whole thing from the conspiracy angle, but this one more than any conspiracy theory has a shelf life of about a week before you have to face reality here. Sorry, but you are in fact the idiot here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29489687 So, apparently you can answer above question, one of the first and most glaring inconsistencies in the whole media story? How do you get an eyewitness account from a dead person and then- NEVER MIND... We should all write to the Newtown Bee and ask for an answer to precisely that question. Who was it that took this interview and as it obviously wasn't the principal, would they please find out who it was that was interviewed. Yes, according to police spokesperson vance, that would be a FEDERAL CRIME and worthy of immediate arrest! Good thing I live in Canada. |
ru1im2 User ID: 32416615 Mongolia 01/17/2013 02:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I did see where someone posted that the paper said, "someone claiming to be the Principal" gave the interview. But I guess that's not strange either? In small towns where there has been a vile tragedy lots of people claim to be major eye witnesses! Thread: Dead Principal Who Gave Statement -- Screen Capture Last Edited by RU1IM2 on 01/17/2013 02:55 AM |
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CtYankee User ID: 30129105 United States 01/17/2013 03:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe it's because I'm a little older now, or that I'm a dad now, but I find everyone's new favorite conspiracy theory totally ugly, childish, and offensive. I've enjoyed, and even supported much of the conspiracy theory culture in the past, but this has kind of ruined it all for me. To treat this as a conspiracy theory is totally irresponsible. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29489687 CtYankee "If at first you don't succeed, erase all evidence that you tried." -anonymous -Spouting a fountain of nonsense since 1972- Never met anyone important enough to lie to..... |
moondrop User ID: 28418966 Canada 01/17/2013 03:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Teams of police officers expedited the evacuation of students holding on to each other — many with their eyes closed — and school staffers from the building, getting them to the safety of the nearby Sandy Hook Firehouse on Riverside Road. Police then searched the school for the shooter, according to Lieutenant J. Paul Vance, state police spokesman. This can't be right. I wouldn't think they evacuated the school before finding the shooter. |
GladioDaddy-O (OP) User ID: 22439147 United States 01/17/2013 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean I get it. It fills a certain void to view the whole thing from the conspiracy angle, but this one more than any conspiracy theory has a shelf life of about a week before you have to face reality here. Sorry, but you are in fact the idiot here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29489687 So, apparently you can answer above question, one of the first and most glaring inconsistencies in the whole media story? How do you get an eyewitness account from a dead person and then- NEVER MIND... We should all write to the Newtown Bee and ask for an answer to precisely that question. Who was it that took this interview and as it obviously wasn't the principal, would they please find out who it was that was interviewed. The person who did the interview was Shannon Hicks, the same person said to have taken the famous lone photo of kids evacuating. |
GladioDaddy-O (OP) User ID: 22439147 United States 01/17/2013 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Don't enter the debate! I want to believe all this bull shit!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29489687 It doesn't mean anything other than human error in the midst of what is easily the most vile tragedy a small community could ever experience. If you've ever lived in a small town that has a newspaper or a community website, than you know they are about as efficient as your grandma's computer skills. You can't expect New York Times editorial benchmarks from the Newtown Bee. It's all very offensive what you guys are doing. To the point of comedy actually, so that makes it a little easier to bear. You come in here and make general statements about why the media fucked up so bad throughout this whole affair. You know nothing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1405576 United States 01/17/2013 05:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing that REALLY bothers me is the fact that Adam was autistic. (I have a bright autistic child) they HATE HATE loud noise and we have Adam firing around like a lunatic, people screaming. Also, living with an autistic child who really doesn't talk, I found the whole conversation that Adam had in the classroom (WHere are the children??!, etc) COMPLETELY off base. If you remember in the stories about Adam, most people claimed he NEVER spoke. This is not the same as some bullied kids (like Columbine) who sit around and decided they want their power back and go in to a school screaming and shooting. An autistic kid CAN NOT wish himself more aggressive/verbal. Think of it this way, remember Rain Man and his ability to communicate? What if Dustin Hoffman's character decided to shoot up kids. Can you imagine him shooting kids. noise, screams, etc??? Can you imagine him screaming WHere are the children??! See? No f'in way. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32427459 United States 01/17/2013 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean I get it. It fills a certain void to view the whole thing from the conspiracy angle, but this one more than any conspiracy theory has a shelf life of about a week before you have to face reality here. Sorry, but you are in fact the idiot here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29489687 The only holes, are the ones riddled in the official story lie. But we got to get them guns so we can arm Al-ciada. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32427459 United States 01/17/2013 06:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing that REALLY bothers me is the fact that Adam was autistic. (I have a bright autistic child) they HATE HATE loud noise and we have Adam firing around like a lunatic, people screaming. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1405576 Also, living with an autistic child who really doesn't talk, I found the whole conversation that Adam had in the classroom (WHere are the children??!, etc) COMPLETELY off base. If you remember in the stories about Adam, most people claimed he NEVER spoke. This is not the same as some bullied kids (like Columbine) who sit around and decided they want their power back and go in to a school screaming and shooting. An autistic kid CAN NOT wish himself more aggressive/verbal. Think of it this way, remember Rain Man and his ability to communicate? What if Dustin Hoffman's character decided to shoot up kids. Can you imagine him shooting kids. noise, screams, etc??? Can you imagine him screaming WHere are the children??! See? No f'in way. Right, the kid next to me has asperger syndrome and I can tell you you are spot on. The kid does not even like bright lights, let alone firearms. |
JustCinnamon User ID: 31989439 Canada 01/17/2013 06:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe it's because I'm a little older now, or that I'm a dad now, but I find everyone's new favorite conspiracy theory totally ugly, childish, and offensive. I've enjoyed, and even supported much of the conspiracy theory culture in the past, but this has kind of ruined it all for me. To treat this as a conspiracy theory is totally irresponsible. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29489687 How about to just ask questions? Not everyone who asks questions is a "conspiracy theorist." I think it's ugly, childish, and offensive" to refer to anyone who questions anything nowadays as a "conspiracy theorist." Last Edited by Zuzu's Petals on 01/17/2013 07:02 AM "I don't have pet peeves; I have major psychotic ******* hatreds, okay. And it makes the world a lot easier to sort out." George Carlin [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4428411 United States 01/17/2013 06:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing that REALLY bothers me is the fact that Adam was autistic. (I have a bright autistic child) they HATE HATE loud noise and we have Adam firing around like a lunatic, people screaming. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1405576 Also, living with an autistic child who really doesn't talk, I found the whole conversation that Adam had in the classroom (WHere are the children??!, etc) COMPLETELY off base. If you remember in the stories about Adam, most people claimed he NEVER spoke. This is not the same as some bullied kids (like Columbine) who sit around and decided they want their power back and go in to a school screaming and shooting. An autistic kid CAN NOT wish himself more aggressive/verbal. Think of it this way, remember Rain Man and his ability to communicate? What if Dustin Hoffman's character decided to shoot up kids. Can you imagine him shooting kids. noise, screams, etc??? Can you imagine him screaming WHere are the children??! See? No f'in way. I brought this point up a long time ago, and it never really seemed to get any traction. I am unsure why, as it blows a giant hole in the entire theory that Adam Lanza was the killer. |
JustCinnamon User ID: 31989439 Canada 01/17/2013 06:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still don't buy that a 6 year old is going to have the mind to "play dead." Maybe they were scared silent, but I don't believe for a second that a child uttered the words, "I played dead." Quoting: JustCinnamon I was barely 6, not in school yet because we didn't have kindergarten, and we had just gotten our first tv. Small country town. I had a bad feeling, and whined to go with my dad to work for a few hours on a Saturday, as I told my mother "to save Daddy's life." A man with a shotgun came in a couple of hours after we got there, held us hostage at the end of a shotgun barrel for hours. I knew where a phone was out of the room. So, I pretended I had to pee, snuck down the hallway, called the operator, told her the situation and that the sheriff needed to turn off the headlights, and come in along the far side of the hallway while I kept the perp distracted. And, that's how it went down. No one hurt. I was the town hero at 6 years old. As I have repeatedly said, I'm not doubting that a child could play dead. I'm doubting they used the phrase. It's an opinion. "I don't have pet peeves; I have major psychotic ******* hatreds, okay. And it makes the world a lot easier to sort out." George Carlin [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1405576 United States 01/17/2013 06:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I brought this point up a long time ago, and it never really seemed to get any traction. I am unsure why, as it blows a giant hole in the entire theory that Adam Lanza was the killer. It does, this, imo, was the first crucial mistake, they picked the wrong kid. I am not saying an autistic/asperger child can't commit violent crimes they can...though typically they are victims of crimes and follow the law extremely so. The DIFFERENCES in the WAY the crime would be committed would be GLARING. Again, autistic children rationalize, communicate, act out completely differently. Adam would have had to awoken a completely different person to have committed this crime, from killing him mom, smashing his computer, having his brother's id on him, driving to school, shooting the door in??? (really, chances are this painfully shy socially insecure kid would have tried the doors and then when they didn't open, simply go home.),shoot up people, ASK series of questions DEMANDING to know where the "kids" are. He got his hair cut his whole life and NEVER looked at his hair dresser or uttered a single word, now he is John Wayne? Then was able to understand that police were closing in on him and killed himself? This story went down like some deranged adult, but it makes NO sense for a shy, skinny, non verbal autistic and that's disregarding everything else out there that contradicts their story. I WILL take this to my grave. This is not a regular kid who has been stiffled and is now freeing himself. An autistic kid CAN NOT lose inhibition, they are WIRED that way. |
INK3 User ID: 32352426 United States 01/17/2013 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I still don't buy that a 6 year old is going to have the mind to "play dead." Maybe they were scared silent, but I don't believe for a second that a child uttered the words, "I played dead." Quoting: JustCinnamon I was barely 6, not in school yet because we didn't have kindergarten, and we had just gotten our first tv. Small country town. I had a bad feeling, and whined to go with my dad to work for a few hours on a Saturday, as I told my mother "to save Daddy's life." A man with a shotgun came in a couple of hours after we got there, held us hostage at the end of a shotgun barrel for hours. I knew where a phone was out of the room. So, I pretended I had to pee, snuck down the hallway, called the operator, told her the situation and that the sheriff needed to turn off the headlights, and come in along the far side of the hallway while I kept the perp distracted. And, that's how it went down. No one hurt. I was the town hero at 6 years old. Cool. Would have been better if you had a gun. (I'm not being sarcastic BTW). "When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing, When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing" page7 |
INK3 User ID: 32352426 United States 01/17/2013 07:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32420456 They said a hundred shots were fired. One person 4 handguns-how can 100 shots be fired? How long would it take to do that by one person? A long time I would think. Recently did some shooting and there were five of us. We probably shot around 100 rounds in 20 to 30 minutes. Not each, total. "When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing, When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing" page7 |
INK3 User ID: 32352426 United States 01/17/2013 07:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I brought this point up a long time ago, and it never really seemed to get any traction. I am unsure why, as it blows a giant hole in the entire theory that Adam Lanza was the killer. It does, this, imo, was the first crucial mistake, they picked the wrong kid. I am not saying an autistic/asperger child can't commit violent crimes they can...though typically they are victims of crimes and follow the law extremely so. The DIFFERENCES in the WAY the crime would be committed would be GLARING. Again, autistic children rationalize, communicate, act out completely differently. Adam would have had to awoken a completely different person to have committed this crime, from killing him mom, smashing his computer, having his brother's id on him, driving to school, shooting the door in??? (really, chances are this painfully shy socially insecure kid would have tried the doors and then when they didn't open, simply go home.),shoot up people, ASK series of questions DEMANDING to know where the "kids" are. He got his hair cut his whole life and NEVER looked at his hair dresser or uttered a single word, now he is John Wayne? Then was able to understand that police were closing in on him and killed himself? This story went down like some deranged adult, but it makes NO sense for a shy, skinny, non verbal autistic and that's disregarding everything else out there that contradicts their story. I WILL take this to my grave. This is not a regular kid who has been stiffled and is now freeing himself. An autistic kid CAN NOT lose inhibition, they are WIRED that way. Excellent points. When I worked at a university, there was a student that I often interacted with. He had Asbergers. He took things very, very literally, would never break a rule knowingly and often came to my office for clarification of minor things, such as addressing a professor as Dr. or Professor, what the difference was, which was correct, etc.,. His days were planned out in advance, and as far as I know he did nothing spontaneously. Obviously not all autistic people are the same, but they do tend to follow very similar patterns of behavior. Last Edited by INK3 on 01/17/2013 07:34 AM "When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing, When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing" page7 |
moses767 User ID: 17182220 United States 01/17/2013 07:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More and more inconsistences can only mean; this was a staged CIA black operations stunt. No children probably died and Obama wants our guns very badly; as his puppet masters are determined to disarm us and enslave us for their great coming "CULLING"!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32431575 United States 01/17/2013 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe it's because I'm a little older now, or that I'm a dad now, but I find everyone's new favorite conspiracy theory totally ugly, childish, and offensive. I've enjoyed, and even supported much of the conspiracy theory culture in the past, but this has kind of ruined it all for me. To treat this as a conspiracy theory is totally irresponsible. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29489687 Here's a paid one |