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Where in the Old Testament

 
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Where in the Old Testament
Does it say the coming Messiah will be Gods son?
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Interesting question...
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There is this but this does not say it

Zechariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: , thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
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Proverb:30:4:
Who hath ascended up into heaven,
or descended?
who hath gathered the wind in his fists?
who hath bound the waters in a garment?
who hath established all the ends of the earth?
what is his name,
and what is his son's name,
if thou canst tell?

Da:3:25:
He answered and said,
Lo,
I see four men loose,
walking in the midst of the fire,
and they have no hurt;
and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

Eze:37:3:
And he said unto me,
Son of man,
can these bones live?
And I answered,
O Lord GOD,
thou knowest.

The last half of Proverbs 8 is Christ's witness to creation` it does lend some indirect support.
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It's God's daughter, actually, the Daughter of Zion.
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Proverb:30:4:
Who hath ascended up into heaven,
or descended?
who hath gathered the wind in his fists?
who hath bound the waters in a garment?
who hath established all the ends of the earth?
what is his name,
and what is his son's name,
if thou canst tell?

Da:3:25:
He answered and said,
Lo,
I see four men loose,
walking in the midst of the fire,
and they have no hurt;
and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

Eze:37:3:
And he said unto me,
Son of man,
can these bones live?
And I answered,
O Lord GOD,
thou knowest.

The last half of Proverbs 8 is Christ's witness to creation` it does lend some indirect support.
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I don't think that says anything, there are countless sons of God in the bible almost too many to mention.
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It's God's daughter, actually, the Daughter of Zion.
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According to a religious site this is the answer?

Not that I buy it.

And the daughter of Zion - Zion, or Sion, was the name of one of the hills on which the city of Jerusalem was built. On this hill formerly stood the city of the Jebusites, and when David took it from them he transferred to it his court, and it was called the city of David, or the holy hill. It was in the southern part of the city. As Zion became the residence of the court, and was the most important part of the city, the name was often used to denote the city itself, and is often applied to the whole of Jerusalem. The phrase 'daughter of Zion' here means Zion itself, or Jerusalem. The name daughter is given to it by a personification in accordance with a common custom in Eastern writers, by which beautiful towns and cities are likened to young females. The name mother is also applied in the same way. Perhaps the custom arose from the fact that when a city was built, towns and villages would spring up round it - and the first would be called the mother-city (hence, the word metropolis). The expression was also employed as an image of beauty, from a fancied resemblance between a beautiful town and a beautiful and well-dressed woman. Thus Psalm 45:13, the phrase daughter of Tyre, means Tyre itself; Psalm 137:8, daughter of Babylon, that is, Babylon; Isaiah 37:22, 'The virgin, the daughter of Zion;' Jeremiah 46:2; Isaiah 23:12; Jeremiah 14:17; Numbers 21:23, Numbers 21:32, (Hebrew); Judges 11:26. Is left. נותרה nôtherâh. The word used here denotes left as a part or remnant is left - not left entire, or complete, but in a weakened or divided state.

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I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Psalm 2(OT)

and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.

Revelation 2:27(NT)
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It says a servant will be sent but not that the servant is God's son. It also seems to say the servant will lifted up way beyond his station.


The Suffering and Glory of the Servant

Isaiah 52:12 But you will not leave in haste or go in flight; for the Lord will go before you, the God of Israel will be your rear guard.

13 See, my servant will act wisely; he will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted.

14 Just as there were many who were appalled at him - his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man and his form marred beyond human likeness—

15 so will he sprinkle many nations,and kings will shut their mouths because of him. For what they were not told, they will see,and what they have not heard, they will understand.
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I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Psalm 2(OT)

and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.

Revelation 2:27(NT)
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The top quote applies to King David not to Jesus.
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Psalms 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.




Psalm 2 is the second Psalm of the Bible. It tells us that people can either defy God and perish, or submit to him and be blessed. Psalm 2 itself does not identify its author, but Acts 4:24-26 in the New Testament clearly attributes it to David.

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Acts 4:24 When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to God. “Sovereign Lord,” they said, “you made the heaven and the earth and the sea, and everything in them. (25) You spoke by the Holy Spirit through the mouth of your servant, our father David: Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain? (26) The kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers gather together against the Lord and against his Anointed One.

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Surely there is a christian who has the answer on this board?
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I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Psalm 2(OT)

and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.

Revelation 2:27(NT)
 Quoting: Carpe Digitus



The top quote applies to King David not to Jesus.
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Read Matthew 22:42 - 46 for explanation of Psalms 2.
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Also, Isiah 9:6 and 7.
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God's Sons

Luke 3:38(line of descent for Jesus) Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, You are gods?

Psalms 82:6 I have said, You are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Acts 17:28 For in him (God) we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, for we are also his offspring.

Acts 17:29 Therefore then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Deity is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

Exodus 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, This says the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn.

Psalms 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD has said to me, Thou (David) art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

1 Chronicles, 28:6 He said to me, (David) `It is Solomon your son who shall build my house and my courts, for I have chosen him to be my Son, and I will be his Father.

Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

Exodus 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, This says the LORD, Israel (Jacob) is my son, even my firstborn.

Psalms 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD has said to me, Thou (David) art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

1 Chronicles, 28:6 He said to me, (David) `It is Solomon your son who shall build my house and my courts, for I have chosen him to be my Son, and I will be his Father.

Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.

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Jesus was sent to the cross because he was questioning things and stirring up the shit pot with the Jewish Elders and Romans.
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God's Sons

Luke 3:38(line of descent for Jesus) Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, You are gods?

Psalms 82:6 I have said, You are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

Acts 17:28 For in him (God) we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, for we are also his offspring.

Acts 17:29 Therefore then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Deity is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

Exodus 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, This says the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn.

Psalms 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD has said to me, Thou (David) art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

1 Chronicles, 28:6 He said to me, (David) `It is Solomon your son who shall build my house and my courts, for I have chosen him to be my Son, and I will be his Father.

Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

Exodus 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, This says the LORD, Israel (Jacob) is my son, even my firstborn.

Psalms 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD has said to me, Thou (David) art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

1 Chronicles, 28:6 He said to me, (David) `It is Solomon your son who shall build my house and my courts, for I have chosen him to be my Son, and I will be his Father.

Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.

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You're taking all of those scriptures and twisting them from their intended meaning. Plus, the real reason Jesus is the true Son of God because he is the Word of God made flesh. The Word proceeded from the heart of God. So, he literally is the Son of God and everything else came from him.
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Also, Isiah 9:6 and 7.
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Interesting it says he will be called The mighty God not that he is.

All the verses below say he will be descended from David not a son of God.



Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. (7) Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Isaiah 16:5 In love a throne will be established; in faithfulness a man will sit on it--one from the house of David--one who in judging seeks justice and speeds the cause of righteousness.

Acts 2:30 But he was a prophet, and he knew God had promised with an oath that one of David's own descendants would sit on his throne.

1 Kings 8:25 Now LORD, God of Israel, keep for your servant David my father the promises you made to him when you said, 'You shall never fail to have a man to sit before me on the throne of Israel, if only your sons are careful in all they do to walk before me as you have done.'

2 Samuel 7:12 When your days are over and you rest with your fathers, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, who will come from your own body, and I will establish his kingdom.

Psalm 132:11 The LORD swore an oath to David with a promise he will never take back: "I will place one of your descendants on your throne.
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Also, Isiah 9:6 and 7.
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Isaiah 9:6-7
6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.

He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom
,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the Lord Almighty
will accomplish this.
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You're taking all of those scriptures and twisting them from their intended meaning.

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How have I twisted them?

Stop talking nonsense.

I quoted them exactly.
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It's God's daughter, actually, the Daughter of Zion.
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According to a religious site this is the answer?

Not that I buy it.

And the daughter of Zion - Zion, or Sion, was the name of one of the hills on which the city of Jerusalem was built. On this hill formerly stood the city of the Jebusites, and when David took it from them he transferred to it his court, and it was called the city of David, or the holy hill. It was in the southern part of the city. As Zion became the residence of the court, and was the most important part of the city, the name was often used to denote the city itself, and is often applied to the whole of Jerusalem. The phrase 'daughter of Zion' here means Zion itself, or Jerusalem. The name daughter is given to it by a personification in accordance with a common custom in Eastern writers, by which beautiful towns and cities are likened to young females. The name mother is also applied in the same way. Perhaps the custom arose from the fact that when a city was built, towns and villages would spring up round it - and the first would be called the mother-city (hence, the word metropolis). The expression was also employed as an image of beauty, from a fancied resemblance between a beautiful town and a beautiful and well-dressed woman. Thus Psalm 45:13, the phrase daughter of Tyre, means Tyre itself; Psalm 137:8, daughter of Babylon, that is, Babylon; Isaiah 37:22, 'The virgin, the daughter of Zion;' Jeremiah 46:2; Isaiah 23:12; Jeremiah 14:17; Numbers 21:23, Numbers 21:32, (Hebrew); Judges 11:26. Is left. נותרה nôtherâh. The word used here denotes left as a part or remnant is left - not left entire, or complete, but in a weakened or divided state.

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You can look at it that way as a metaphor, or as a living human.
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You could have easily googled this information so what is your motive or point?
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Also, Isiah 9:6 and 7.
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Isaiah 9:6-7
6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.

He will reign on David’s throne
and over his kingdom
,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the Lord Almighty
will accomplish this.

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How about this one OP? ^^^^ You didn't answer. Sounds like the Messiah is God's son to me.
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You could have easily googled this information so what is your motive or point?
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I'm looking for an answer.

Why are you squirming in your seat or something?
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Here's a good site about that:

[link to www.gotquestions.org]

Regarding Jesus’ birth—Isaiah 7:14: “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.”

Isaiah 9:6: “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”

Micah 5:2: “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.”

Fascinating stuff

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You could have easily googled this information so what is your motive or point?
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I'm looking for an answer.

Why are you squirming in your seat or something?
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What answer and from who? Google is perfectly capable of directing you to the Bible scriptures quite easily and that truly is what you are looking for, right, answers to a question about what the Bible states? And btw, I've already posted and I'm quite still actually. But, thanks for asking. ;)
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Romans 1:18-32

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. 26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. 28 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
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You could have easily googled this information so what is your motive or point?
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I'm looking for an answer.

Why are you squirming in your seat or something?
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You are searching for the wrong thing. If you ever find your answer it not will not change one thing in your life or make it better. Out love your brother...like Jesus. Then with time you will not care about this question.
Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded an empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him.
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Here's a good site about that:

[link to www.gotquestions.org]

Regarding Jesus’ birth—Isaiah 7:14: “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.”

Isaiah 9:6: “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”

Micah 5:2: “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.”

Fascinating stuff
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Good post but again it does not say "I God will have a son born of my loin."

It simply says she will be a virgin. That does not have to mean a sexual virgin. Virgin also means pure, like virgin oil or virgin forest.
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