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Google found this (nothing on what op said)
[link to www.whitehouse.gov]

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If you scroll down this page to where is says Bill of Rights...It says "GIVES citizens the right to bear arms". That is BS. It doesn't "GIVE" us the right It acknowledges it and protects it. This is not Ok.
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The whole web document there is a bit abridged in info overall.
It's kind of the "Cliff's Notes" version of everything.

Anyone truly looking up the Constitution or The Bill of Rights wouldn't be using that site.

A few idiots might....but they will be the UBER minority.

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can't believe i actually found something not previously addressed on here. I thank all my brothers and sisters who feed the tree of liberty
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Google found this (nothing on what op said)
[link to www.whitehouse.gov]

 Quoting: CeeLite


If you scroll down this page to where is says Bill of Rights...It says "GIVES citizens the right to bear arms". That is BS. It doesn't "GIVE" us the right It acknowledges it and protects it. This is not Ok.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431110


The whole web document there is a bit abridged in info overall.
It's kind of the "Cliff's Notes" version of everything.

Anyone truly looking up the Constitution or The Bill of Rights wouldn't be using that site.

A few idiots might....but they will be the UBER minority.
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obviously the real bill of rights exists in many places, i just thought it was mention-able that it is changed here when it really makes no sense that it is. Unless you understand the powers that be's motives.
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Google found this (nothing on what op said)
[link to www.whitehouse.gov]

 Quoting: CeeLite


If you scroll down this page to where is says Bill of Rights...It says "GIVES citizens the right to bear arms". That is BS. It doesn't "GIVE" us the right It acknowledges it and protects it. This is not Ok.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431110


The whole web document there is a bit abridged in info overall.
It's kind of the "Cliff's Notes" version of everything.

Anyone truly looking up the Constitution or The Bill of Rights wouldn't be using that site.

A few idiots might....but they will be the UBER minority.
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you mean the media to pollute the minds right?
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Google found this (nothing on what op said)
[link to www.whitehouse.gov]

 Quoting: CeeLite


If you scroll down this page to where is says Bill of Rights...It says "GIVES citizens the right to bear arms". That is BS. It doesn't "GIVE" us the right It acknowledges it and protects it. This is not Ok.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431110


The whole web document there is a bit abridged in info overall.
It's kind of the "Cliff's Notes" version of everything.

Anyone truly looking up the Constitution or The Bill of Rights wouldn't be using that site.

A few idiots might....but they will be the UBER minority.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Yes, but you miss the key point this is their interruption of the 2nd amendment in a nut shell.

This is a very bad interpretation ...what is given can also be taken away.
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bumping my thread like an ass.... atleast i don't deny it
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goodnight thread
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You are right OP...it says GIVES citizens the right to bear arms.

That is actually pretty outrageous.
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THIS BULLSHIT NEEDS TO GO VIRAL
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The whole of the law, regardless of the country, is exactly what we say it is.

The only salvation for the masses is to comply.
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Why is the seal not centered properly on the desk?
Can't these guys do anything correct?
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The whole of the law, regardless of the country, is exactly what we say it is.

The only salvation for the masses is to comply.
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Easy for you to say when you make the laws there, Senator. :)
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There are no democratically elected politicians posting.
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The whole of the law, regardless of the country, is exactly what we say it is.

The only salvation for the masses is to comply.
 Quoting: 535 7977681


Easy for you to say when you make the laws there, Senator. :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


There are no democratically elected politicians posting.
 Quoting: 535 7977681


Ah. So the poster would be the muscle behind those politicians.
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Perhaps so, perhaps not.

In defence of the "poster", it is important to understand how few officials are currently democratically elected.

Someday, you may reach your dream of becoming elected or appointed as well.
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There are no democratically elected politicians posting.
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Ah. So the poster would be the muscle behind those politicians.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Perhaps so, perhaps not.

In defence of the "poster", it is important to understand how few officials are currently democratically elected.

Someday, you may reach your dream of becoming elected or appointed as well.
 Quoting: 535 32300822


There are two different ways to lead.

Out in front and behind the scenes.

And both have its advantages.
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Of course, but that is of no consequence.

What is important is the possibility of unleashing raw and unmitigated power and violence on your enemies in order to fully conquer them. Until then, they must be lulled into complacency and apathy before the masterstroke may be employed.

It will be glorious.
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They can shut that website down, since it can not be afforded.

They can practice what they preach and act as!
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WOW! Great find OP!!!

Granted they are presenting an "abridged" version of the bill of rights but the other 9 amendments are more or less right on.

An above poster is absolutely correct...

THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL

Is there any doubt in your mind what the true intentions are of Obama and his supporting commie,,, excuse me,,, I mean "progressive" bastards?
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sorry, that should have been Bill of Rights
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WOW! Great find OP!!!

Granted they are presenting an "abridged" version of the bill of rights but the other 9 amendments are more or less right on.

An above poster is absolutely correct...

THIS NEEDS TO GO VIRAL

Is there any doubt in your mind what the true intentions are of Obama and his supporting commie,,, excuse me,,, I mean "progressive" bastards?
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I agree OP made a great catch.
I can't believe more people aren't pissed off about this.
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bump
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what the government gives, they can take away.

governments grant privileges, only God gives rights.
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The Second Amendment gives citizens the right to bear arms.

totally incorrect.

THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

the constitution does not give any rights, it protects our inherent rights from being infringed upon by tyrannical government.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22888087


You are right OP...it says GIVES citizens the right to bear arms.

That is actually pretty outrageous.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1431110


"...certain Inalienable rights, ENDOWED BY THE CREATOR..."

The first time on the face of this earth that a formalized Government had acknowledged not only that each person possessed "Certain inalienable rights", but also that such were "Endowed By The Creator" was quite a huge step. To acknowledge that one of these, second only to the collective of "freedom of speech/ assembly/ religion/ press/ to petition the government" was the right of a person to effect their own personal safety and security, and to remain safe and secure in their own personal sovereignty, was a monumental step. The Founding Fathers knew this.

The balance of the BoR (with an exception for the 10th - stipulating State's Rights) actually stems from/ are an extension of the first two, but no one wants to take the time to learn/ teach that.

How difficult is it to see that the greater balance of the BoR revolves around the establishment and continuation of a person's personal rights of safety/ security/ and the abilities to ensure the continuation of such? The Founding Fathers knew that a population who had the defined, acknowledged abilities and rights to effect their own safety and security leads to a secure country overall.

It seems much easier today to teach (or otherwise spew vitriol against the people of the country) that the government "gives", with no acknowledgement or concern that such line of thought also means the government can take away, at it sees fit, any of those rights.

It is also much easier, and has been for generations, to mock those of us who have yelled at the top of our lungs of the dangers associated with the replacing of God with government - well, this is what it brings along with it.

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8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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The Second Amendment gives citizens the right to bear arms.

totally incorrect.

THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

the constitution does not give any rights, it protects our inherent rights from being infringed upon by tyrannical government.
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^This is Correct^
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On that page "Ammendments" goes here (farther down page)
[link to www.senate.gov]
and says this for second ammendment:

"Amendment II (1791)
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

WHAT IS WEIRD IS OFF TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IT SAYS THIS (wtf) "Whether this provision protects the individual's right to own firearms or whether it deals only with the collective right of the people to arm and maintain a militia has long been debated."
 Quoting: CeeLite


Looks like they need to update their little 'debate' issue with the Supreme Court decision, doesn't it?

I'll bet they also consider a people's militia to be the National Guard and nothing else.
"Who decides?"
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I told my Wife to prepare herself for news of another "horrific incident", probably going to involve Senior Citizens & Children & it "will come to light that those responsible for the despicable act of vionece were former Military Personel that had formed their own "Wolf Pack" Malitia" or some equally fraudalent drivel. It'll happen sooner than later, while emotions are running high & O can finish what he was put in place to do.
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I told my Wife to prepare herself for news of another "horrific incident", probably going to involve Senior Citizens & Children & it "will come to light that those responsible for the despicable act of vionece were former Military Personel that had formed their own "Wolf Pack" Malitia" or some equally fraudalent drivel. It'll happen sooner than later, while emotions are running high & O can finish what he was put in place to do.
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That is a scary though... but not at all impossible.
This thread needs more attention.
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Y'all backwoods folk needs ta learns ta navagate the intenets. Go on ta tha sight tha op sed to go on, now luk uptward tha top yonder an touch wher it says read full text. Affen y'alls get dun wif that touch where it says amendments then afer y'alls dun that ifn yunto y'alls can reads tha hole writen on the 2nd mendment.
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Y'all backwoods folk needs ta learns ta navagate the intenets. Go on ta tha sight tha op sed to go on, now luk uptward tha top yonder an touch wher it says read full text. Affen y'alls get dun wif that touch where it says amendments then afer y'alls dun that ifn yunto y'alls can reads tha hole writen on the 2nd mendment.
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translator....please..
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Y'all backwoods folk needs ta learns ta navagate the intenets. Go on ta tha sight tha op sed to go on, now luk uptward tha top yonder an touch wher it says read full text. Affen y'alls get dun wif that touch where it says amendments then afer y'alls dun that ifn yunto y'alls can reads tha hole writen on the 2nd mendment.
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I Know what the 2nd amendment says Dumb Ass.

You need to learn how to comprehend the point of a conversion.
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There needs to be an 11th ammendment for spelling.
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Y'all backwoods folk needs ta learns ta navagate the intenets. Go on ta tha sight tha op sed to go on, now luk uptward tha top yonder an touch wher it says read full text. Affen y'alls get dun wif that touch where it says amendments then afer y'alls dun that ifn yunto y'alls can reads tha hole writen on the 2nd mendment.
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Yeah, that's not helpful chocolate chips.
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y'alls to stoopid ta c that tha sight op sayd ta go ta is jest a abreveatd sinopsas of tha cumplet text at tha lenx I told y.alls ta luk at. Damd munky fukers ar tu stoopid ta lissen. Evun a dum ol hillbilly kan figer that owt

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