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Some news suppliers have just announced that EU troops are or may be sent to Mali to help the French. This just being reported on Sky news. Also just saw that the Dutch have already got troops inplace over there. This is a very fluid situation and has the potential to widen into a truly huge area of conflict.
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Tempation was too big to ignore huh
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Re: EU troops to be sent to Mali
Can you elaborate?
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Mali holds many secrets to the stars.

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What are "EU troops"?
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I guess they mean Troops from various countries within the European union.
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I can´t remember it quite well but there was something in some Visions I read that stated, lets say it literally, "before the shit hits the fan there will be a massive new conflict in Africa", could this be it?

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Dogon and Sirius

The Dogon talk about Nommo - amphibian deities that arrived from the sky in their fantastic sky ship. They preached to the people who assembled in large numbers around the lake that was created around the ship.[14]

note - they call Sirus the UFO star:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Certain researchers investigating the Dogon have reported that they seem to possess advanced astronomical knowledge, the nature and source of which have subsequently become embroiled in controversy. From 1931 to 1956 the French anthropologist Marcel Griaule studied the Dogon. This included field missions ranging from several days to two months in 1931, 1935, 1937 and 1938[15] and then annually from 1946 until 1956.[16] In late 1946 Griaule spent a consecutive thirty-three days in conversations with the Dogon wiseman Ogotemmêli, the source of much of Griaule and Dieterlen's future publications.[17] They reported that the Dogon believe that the brightest star in the sky, Sirius (sigi tolo or 'star of the Sigui'[18]), has two companion stars, pō tolo (the Digitaria star), and ęmmę ya tolo, (the female Sorghum star), respectively the first and second companions of Sirius A.[19] Sirius, in the Dogon system, formed one of the foci for the orbit of a tiny star, the companionate Digitaria star. When Digitaria is closest to Sirius, that star brightens: when it is farthest from Sirius, it gives off a twinkling effect that suggests to the observer several stars. The orbit cycle takes 50 years.[20] They also claimed that the Dogon appeared to know of the rings of Saturn, and the moons of Jupiter.[21]

Griaule and Dieterlen were puzzled by this Sudanese star system, and prefaced their analysis with the following remark:-

The problem of knowing how, with no instruments at their disposal, men could know the movements and certain characteristics of virtually invisible stars has not been settled, nor even posed.[22]

In 1976 Robert K. G. Temple wrote a book called The Sirius Mystery arguing that the Dogon's system reveals precise knowledge of cosmological facts only known by the development of modern astronomy, since they appear to know, from Griaule and Dieterlen's account, that Sirius was part of a binary star system, whose second star, Sirius B, a white dwarf, was however completely invisible to the human eye, (just as Digitaria is the smallest grain[clarification needed] known to the Dogon), and that it took 50 years to complete its orbit. The existence of Sirius B had only been inferred to exist through mathematical calculations undertaken by Friedrich Bessel in 1844. Temple then argued that the Dogon's information, if traced back to ancient Egyptian sources and myth, indicated an extraterrestrial transmission of knowledge of the stars.[23] Neither Griaule nor Dieterlen had ever made such bold claims about a putative esoteric source for the Dogon's knowledge.

More recently, doubts have been raised about the validity of Griaule and Dieterlein's work.[24][25] In a 1991 article in Current Anthropology anthropologist Walter van Beek concluded after his research among the Dogon that,

"Though they do speak about sigu tolo [which is what Griaule claimed the Dogon called Sirius] they disagree completely with each other as to which star is meant; for some it is an invisible star that should rise to announce the sigu [festival], for another it is Venus that, through a different position, appears as sigu tolo. All agree, however, that they learned about the star from Griaule"[26]

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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Mali holds many secrets to the stars.
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I don't know about that, but am am aware of the huge Gold deposits amongst everything else which lies there. But I thought the reason was to stop the country from falling into the hands of radical islamic extremists. Correct me if you think I am wrong.
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I can´t remember it quite well but there was something in some Visions I read that stated, lets say it literally, "before the shit hits the fan there will be a massive new conflict in Africa", could this be it?
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Can't say I've ever heard of that, but then my knowledge is far from encyclopeadic.
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Part of article:


Dogon and Sirius

The Dogon talk about Nommo - amphibian deities that arrived from the sky in their fantastic sky ship. They preached to the people who assembled in large numbers around the lake that was created around the ship.[14]

note - they call Sirus the UFO star:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Certain researchers investigating the Dogon have reported that they seem to possess advanced astronomical knowledge, the nature and source of which have subsequently become embroiled in controversy. From 1931 to 1956 the French anthropologist Marcel Griaule studied the Dogon. This included field missions ranging from several days to two months in 1931, 1935, 1937 and 1938[15] and then annually from 1946 until 1956.[16] In late 1946 Griaule spent a consecutive thirty-three days in conversations with the Dogon wiseman Ogotemmêli, the source of much of Griaule and Dieterlen's future publications.[17] They reported that the Dogon believe that the brightest star in the sky, Sirius (sigi tolo or 'star of the Sigui'[18]), has two companion stars, pō tolo (the Digitaria star), and ęmmę ya tolo, (the female Sorghum star), respectively the first and second companions of Sirius A.[19] Sirius, in the Dogon system, formed one of the foci for the orbit of a tiny star, the companionate Digitaria star. When Digitaria is closest to Sirius, that star brightens: when it is farthest from Sirius, it gives off a twinkling effect that suggests to the observer several stars. The orbit cycle takes 50 years.[20] They also claimed that the Dogon appeared to know of the rings of Saturn, and the moons of Jupiter.[21]

Griaule and Dieterlen were puzzled by this Sudanese star system, and prefaced their analysis with the following remark:-

The problem of knowing how, with no instruments at their disposal, men could know the movements and certain characteristics of virtually invisible stars has not been settled, nor even posed.[22]

In 1976 Robert K. G. Temple wrote a book called The Sirius Mystery arguing that the Dogon's system reveals precise knowledge of cosmological facts only known by the development of modern astronomy, since they appear to know, from Griaule and Dieterlen's account, that Sirius was part of a binary star system, whose second star, Sirius B, a white dwarf, was however completely invisible to the human eye, (just as Digitaria is the smallest grain[clarification needed] known to the Dogon), and that it took 50 years to complete its orbit. The existence of Sirius B had only been inferred to exist through mathematical calculations undertaken by Friedrich Bessel in 1844. Temple then argued that the Dogon's information, if traced back to ancient Egyptian sources and myth, indicated an extraterrestrial transmission of knowledge of the stars.[23] Neither Griaule nor Dieterlen had ever made such bold claims about a putative esoteric source for the Dogon's knowledge.

More recently, doubts have been raised about the validity of Griaule and Dieterlein's work.[24][25] In a 1991 article in Current Anthropology anthropologist Walter van Beek concluded after his research among the Dogon that,

"Though they do speak about sigu tolo [which is what Griaule claimed the Dogon called Sirius] they disagree completely with each other as to which star is meant; for some it is an invisible star that should rise to announce the sigu [festival], for another it is Venus that, through a different position, appears as sigu tolo. All agree, however, that they learned about the star from Griaule"[26]

FULL:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Interesting. I will read it in more depth when I have time. As an aside, I did have a conversation with a Dutch guy once, who traveled for many years around the Sahara, who related to me something about the Touareg tribesmen witnessing some extraterrestrial manifestations or something.
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Re: EU troops to be sent to Mali
Part of article:


Dogon and Sirius

The Dogon talk about Nommo - amphibian deities that arrived from the sky in their fantastic sky ship. They preached to the people who assembled in large numbers around the lake that was created around the ship.[14]

note - they call Sirus the UFO star:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]


Certain researchers investigating the Dogon have reported that they seem to possess advanced astronomical knowledge, the nature and source of which have subsequently become embroiled in controversy. From 1931 to 1956 the French anthropologist Marcel Griaule studied the Dogon. This included field missions ranging from several days to two months in 1931, 1935, 1937 and 1938[15] and then annually from 1946 until 1956.[16] In late 1946 Griaule spent a consecutive thirty-three days in conversations with the Dogon wiseman Ogotemmêli, the source of much of Griaule and Dieterlen's future publications.[17] They reported that the Dogon believe that the brightest star in the sky, Sirius (sigi tolo or 'star of the Sigui'[18]), has two companion stars, pō tolo (the Digitaria star), and ęmmę ya tolo, (the female Sorghum star), respectively the first and second companions of Sirius A.[19] Sirius, in the Dogon system, formed one of the foci for the orbit of a tiny star, the companionate Digitaria star. When Digitaria is closest to Sirius, that star brightens: when it is farthest from Sirius, it gives off a twinkling effect that suggests to the observer several stars. The orbit cycle takes 50 years.[20] They also claimed that the Dogon appeared to know of the rings of Saturn, and the moons of Jupiter.[21]

Griaule and Dieterlen were puzzled by this Sudanese star system, and prefaced their analysis with the following remark:-

The problem of knowing how, with no instruments at their disposal, men could know the movements and certain characteristics of virtually invisible stars has not been settled, nor even posed.[22]

In 1976 Robert K. G. Temple wrote a book called The Sirius Mystery arguing that the Dogon's system reveals precise knowledge of cosmological facts only known by the development of modern astronomy, since they appear to know, from Griaule and Dieterlen's account, that Sirius was part of a binary star system, whose second star, Sirius B, a white dwarf, was however completely invisible to the human eye, (just as Digitaria is the smallest grain[clarification needed] known to the Dogon), and that it took 50 years to complete its orbit. The existence of Sirius B had only been inferred to exist through mathematical calculations undertaken by Friedrich Bessel in 1844. Temple then argued that the Dogon's information, if traced back to ancient Egyptian sources and myth, indicated an extraterrestrial transmission of knowledge of the stars.[23] Neither Griaule nor Dieterlen had ever made such bold claims about a putative esoteric source for the Dogon's knowledge.

More recently, doubts have been raised about the validity of Griaule and Dieterlein's work.[24][25] In a 1991 article in Current Anthropology anthropologist Walter van Beek concluded after his research among the Dogon that,

"Though they do speak about sigu tolo [which is what Griaule claimed the Dogon called Sirius] they disagree completely with each other as to which star is meant; for some it is an invisible star that should rise to announce the sigu [festival], for another it is Venus that, through a different position, appears as sigu tolo. All agree, however, that they learned about the star from Griaule"[26]

FULL:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Interesting. I will read it in more depth when I have time. As an aside, I did have a conversation with a Dutch guy once, who traveled for many years around the Sahara, who related to me something about the Touareg tribesmen witnessing some extraterrestrial manifestations or something.
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What is also interesting, Sirius is commonly know as the "Dog Star." Dogon people.
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Mali holds many secrets to the stars.
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I don't know about that, but am am aware of the huge Gold deposits amongst everything else which lies there. But I thought the reason was to stop the country from falling into the hands of radical islamic extremists. Correct me if you think I am wrong.
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Terrorists are the excuse of the decade. I really do not know, could be true. Do you have any background links on these terrorists?
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Mali holds many secrets to the stars.
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I don't know about that, but am am aware of the huge Gold deposits amongst everything else which lies there. But I thought the reason was to stop the country from falling into the hands of radical islamic extremists. Correct me if you think I am wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32427703


Terrorists are the excuse of the decade. I really do not know, could be true. Do you have any background links on these terrorists?
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Only info I have is what I glean from the usual news sources. And ref your statement about the terrorists being the excuse of the decade. Well all I can add to that is again what I have gleaned from the major news and TV sources. The only thing I will add, is that my convictions were somewhat shaken when I witnessed that news - believe it was the BBC - who were reporting that building seven had also gone down in the 911 attacks, when it was clearly seen behind the reporter as being seen still standing.
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Mali holds many secrets to the stars.
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I don't know about that, but am am aware of the huge Gold deposits amongst everything else which lies there. But I thought the reason was to stop the country from falling into the hands of radical islamic extremists. Correct me if you think I am wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32427703


Terrorists are the excuse of the decade. I really do not know, could be true. Do you have any background links on these terrorists?
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Only info I have is what I glean from the usual news sources. And ref your statement about the terrorists being the excuse of the decade. Well all I can add to that is again what I have gleaned from the major news and TV sources. The only thing I will add, is that my convictions were somewhat shaken when I witnessed that news - believe it was the BBC - who were reporting that building seven had also gone down in the 911 attacks, when it was clearly seen behind the reporter as being seen still standing.
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Exactly. I mean, it may be. Just very curious what the root of this is all about.
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I don't know about that, but am am aware of the huge Gold deposits amongst everything else which lies there. But I thought the reason was to stop the country from falling into the hands of radical islamic extremists. Correct me if you think I am wrong.
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Terrorists are the excuse of the decade. I really do not know, could be true. Do you have any background links on these terrorists?
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Only info I have is what I glean from the usual news sources. And ref your statement about the terrorists being the excuse of the decade. Well all I can add to that is again what I have gleaned from the major news and TV sources. The only thing I will add, is that my convictions were somewhat shaken when I witnessed that news - believe it was the BBC - who were reporting that building seven had also gone down in the 911 attacks, when it was clearly seen behind the reporter as being seen still standing.
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Exactly. I mean, it may be. Just very curious what the root of this is all about.
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Can't help but agree with you 100%.

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