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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13686909 United States 01/17/2013 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Background checks and limits on clip size =/= Ban all guns. No one is planning a full gun ban or a gun grab or to round up every gun in the country. NO ONE. |
Professor McFluffles (OP) User ID: 14093935 United States 01/17/2013 04:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one is planning a full gun ban or a gun grab or to round up every gun in the country. NO ONE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13686909 "An ultimate goal of the United States is a world which is free from the scourge of war and the dangers and burdens of armaments... ... of reduction and control of armaments looking toward ultimate world disarmament." U.S. Law: [link to uscode.house.gov] Yea right...no one. Idiot. You know, when you think about it, everyone generalizes... |
Hard Eight User ID: 8668963 United States 01/17/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | +5 and for controltards Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13686909 United States 01/17/2013 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | from the scourge of war and the dangers and burdens of armaments; in which the use of force has been subordinated to the rule of law; and in which international adjustments to a changing world are achieved peacefully. You left out that next sentence which suggests doing it after world peace has been achieved. But that still has nothing to do with your bad analogy in the first post. Should we abandon all driving regulations in the name of freedom? |
Professor McFluffles (OP) User ID: 14093935 United States 01/17/2013 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An ultimate goal of the United States is a world which is free Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13686909 from the scourge of war and the dangers and burdens of armaments; in which the use of force has been subordinated to the rule of law; and in which international adjustments to a changing world are achieved peacefully. You left out that next sentence which suggests doing it after world peace has been achieved. But that still has nothing to do with your bad analogy in the first post. Should we abandon all driving regulations in the name of freedom? ...after world peace is achieved? or after the NWO is achieved? The plan and goal is to achieve it THROUGH disarmarment of everyone. Get educated. ...and as far as the second question: Should we abandon all driving regulations in the name of freedom? ...let me turn the question back on you: Should we abandon all our freedoms in the name of security? Forget cars, maybe we should all just move to Fema Camps now where everyone is safe from driving, right? You know, when you think about it, everyone generalizes... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30837514 United States 01/17/2013 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An ultimate goal of the United States is a world which is free Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13686909 from the scourge of war and the dangers and burdens of armaments; in which the use of force has been subordinated to the rule of law; and in which international adjustments to a changing world are achieved peacefully. You left out that next sentence which suggests doing it after world peace has been achieved. But that still has nothing to do with your bad analogy in the first post. Should we abandon all driving regulations in the name of freedom? ...after world peace is achieved? or after the NWO is achieved? The plan and goal is to achieve it THROUGH disarmarment of everyone. Get educated. ...and as far as the second question: Should we abandon all driving regulations in the name of freedom? ...let me turn the question back on you: Should we abandon all our freedoms in the name of security? Forget cars, maybe we should all just move to Fema Camps now where everyone is safe from driving, right? I'll answer your question. Of course we should not abandon all of your freedom for security. But you didn't answer my question. Should we abandon security for freedom? I will assume most people would also say no to that. So those are our two extremes. I think we have to meet in the middle somewhere with reasonable ideas and laws. We have done that with driving and highway laws already in this country. Do people still die? Yes. But are the roads safer due to the laws and regulations put in place? Yes. What i never understand is why sensible and middle of the road ideas about gun control are met with frothing, screaming, opposition. |
Professor McFluffles (OP) User ID: 14093935 United States 01/17/2013 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An ultimate goal of the United States is a world which is free Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13686909 from the scourge of war and the dangers and burdens of armaments; in which the use of force has been subordinated to the rule of law; and in which international adjustments to a changing world are achieved peacefully. You left out that next sentence which suggests doing it after world peace has been achieved. But that still has nothing to do with your bad analogy in the first post. Should we abandon all driving regulations in the name of freedom? ...after world peace is achieved? or after the NWO is achieved? The plan and goal is to achieve it THROUGH disarmarment of everyone. Get educated. ...and as far as the second question: Should we abandon all driving regulations in the name of freedom? ...let me turn the question back on you: Should we abandon all our freedoms in the name of security? Forget cars, maybe we should all just move to Fema Camps now where everyone is safe from driving, right? I'll answer your question. Of course we should not abandon all of your freedom for security. But you didn't answer my question. Should we abandon security for freedom? I will assume most people would also say no to that. So those are our two extremes. I think we have to meet in the middle somewhere with reasonable ideas and laws. We have done that with driving and highway laws already in this country. Do people still die? Yes. But are the roads safer due to the laws and regulations put in place? Yes. What i never understand is why sensible and middle of the road ideas about gun control are met with frothing, screaming, opposition. Because they are not sensible middle of the road ideas. Go read the original post, they are lampoons of what your "sensible middle of the road ideas" would look like if applied to cars. If you really want to find the middle of the road, then you would if anything pull back on gun control legislation...your side of the argument is already driving far to far into the "peoples" lane. The ultimate goal of gun control is to own the whole road so the people have no rights. The proof is in the other countries that have already gone down that road until all the guns were taken away. America would end up looking like Mexico. You know, when you think about it, everyone generalizes... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23761243 United States 01/17/2013 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one is planning a full gun ban or a gun grab or to round up every gun in the country. NO ONE. Incorrect. But, you already knew that. Senator Feinstein is already on record supporting a complete ban and confiscation of all civilian owned firearms. Obama is on record supporting a complete ban of all handguns. |
Hawgzilla User ID: 1138565 United States 01/17/2013 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are govt regulations to keep people somewhat safe. Speed limits, licensing, rules of the road, signs and safety procedures. All of which are reasonable. People are reasonably asking for some of the same ideas when it comes to guns. But for some weird reason when the idea of reasonable gun regulations comes up, half the county explodes (like this very website) with bad analogy's like your OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13686909 Background checks and limits on clip size =/= Ban all guns. No one is planning a full gun ban or a gun grab or to round up every gun in the country. NO ONE. you make it sound like there are absolutely no laws on the books regarding guns and their possession. The fail is strong in you libtard. Ban guns to "save the children" but killing them in the womb is totally cool......I see; it makes perfect sense now. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31922501 Ireland 01/17/2013 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Automobiles were made for transportation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31922501 Guns were made for __________. Freedom. Says it right in the 2nd Amendment. Guns were made to KILL. If anyone wants to defend the second amendment...you better find a better angle than trying to compare guns to automobiles. |