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No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!

 
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Abe Lincoln was such a massive fuck up...
such an embarrassment... a stain in American history... that in order to save face... "They" made him a fucking hero...
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


applause2
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There's been late night talk he was a very dark Egyptian.
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He was Native American, Mexican and Black

Tri racial... I know people of this race... they still exist in Lincolns birth county of Washington, Kentucky

Don't fuck with them... They stick to their own for the most part... damn fine people
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What the fuck
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Yep, tough on vampires... for sure.
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There's been late night talk he was a very dark Egyptian.
 Quoting: natasha77


He was Native American, Mexican and Black

Tri racial... I know people of this race... they still exist in Lincolns birth county of Washington, Kentucky

Don't fuck with them... They stick to their own for the most part... damn fine people
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What the fuck
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im serious

lemme find a link
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There's been late night talk he was a very dark Egyptian.
 Quoting: natasha77


He was Native American, Mexican and Black

Tri racial... I know people of this race... they still exist in Lincolns birth county of Washington, Kentucky

Don't fuck with them... They stick to their own for the most part... damn fine people
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


What the fuck
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btw the people I know... dont claim lincoln... so its not a bragging right thing...

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Here is a bit more truth about Lincoln. Had slavery been the reason, or part of the reason for the civil war, the war wouldn't have happened.

Lincoln could have bought every slave in the South and North for $500,000,000.
The truth is that the North had slaves too. They were subjected to the worst of atrocities.
Lincoln and the banksters in the north saw the south as rich, financially and in natural resources already developed. They wanted control of it, which is their typical behavior.
In effect, Lincoln and the banksters behaved just the mafia always does. Do business with Vinny ( no offense to good guys named Vinny), or the boss will send in the slash and burn crew.

And to this day, they still do business the same way, matters not what country, race, gender, religious creed, or age.
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Abe Lincoln was such a massive fuck up...
such an embarrassment... a stain in American history... that in order to save face... "They" made him a fucking hero...
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


applause2
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Truer words have never been spoken...
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Indians: 28,693 Native Americans fought mostly for Lincoln
in the Civil War. Nobody even kept number on how many
came back alive. Their loyal service did NOTHING to ease
discrimination against them, or stop the relocation of their tribes and the brutal takeovers of their tribal lands. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Here is a bit more truth about Lincoln. Had slavery been the reason, or part of the reason for the civil war, the war wouldn't have happened.

Lincoln could have bought every slave in the South and North for $500,000,000.
The truth is that the North had slaves too. They were subjected to the worst of atrocities.
Lincoln and the banksters in the north saw the south as rich, financially and in natural resources already developed. They wanted control of it, which is their typical behavior.
In effect, Lincoln and the banksters behaved just the mafia always does. Do business with Vinny ( no offense to good guys named Vinny), or the boss will send in the slash and burn crew.

And to this day, they still do business the same way, matters not what country, race, gender, religious creed, or age.
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ohyeah
thank you.
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There's been late night talk he was a very dark Egyptian.
 Quoting: natasha77


He was Native American, Mexican and Black

Tri racial... I know people of this race... they still exist in Lincolns birth county of Washington, Kentucky

Don't fuck with them... They stick to their own for the most part... damn fine people
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


What the fuck
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32469060




[link to www.melungeons.com]

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btw the people I know... dont claim lincoln... so its not a bragging right thing...
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Yeah man, you already claim Batman by proxy, don't need ole Abe too!! lol

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...


He was Native American, Mexican and Black

Tri racial... I know people of this race... they still exist in Lincolns birth county of Washington, Kentucky

Don't fuck with them... They stick to their own for the most part... damn fine people
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


What the fuck
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32469060




[link to www.melungeons.com]

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

[link to voices.yahoo.com]



btw the people I know... dont claim lincoln... so its not a bragging right thing...
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Yeah man, you already claim Batman by proxy, don't need ole Abe too!! lol
 Quoting: Mwalk


cruise

oh trust me... we dont want him

1rof1

and i dont want Batman either... but he pays the Bat Society membership fees... so gotta do what ya gotta do

huffy


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So glad there are people out there that know the truth and don't hold Lincoln up as a saint!!
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These are the offical numbers of Lincoln's Slaughter:

775,638 Union Soldiers
+/- 312,000 Confederate Soldiers

Not Counting Women or Children.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


I am afraid that you will have to add another 30,000 thrown into prison without charges or trial, of these over 3000 were executed, no charges, no trial.
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So glad there are people out there that know the truth and don't hold Lincoln up as a saint!!
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sadly, the more time that goes by,
it's easy for people to forget,
and be taught a "candycoated" version of history.
we NEED to remember the past for what is really was...
not a "Disney movie" of it.
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These are the offical numbers of Lincoln's Slaughter:

775,638 Union Soldiers
+/- 312,000 Confederate Soldiers

Not Counting Women or Children.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


I am afraid that you will have to add another 30,000 thrown into prison without charges or trial, of these over 3000 were executed, no charges, no trial.
 Quoting: 071676


you mean like "indefinite detention"?
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btw 5* and Pin Request
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thanks sweetie!

Let's hope this thread isn't too "un-PC"
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These are the offical numbers of Lincoln's Slaughter:

775,638 Union Soldiers
+/- 312,000 Confederate Soldiers

Not Counting Women or Children.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


I am afraid that you will have to add another 30,000 thrown into prison without charges or trial, of these over 3000 were executed, no charges, no trial.
 Quoting: 071676


you mean like "indefinite detention"?
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


Sort of, they were never heard from again.
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These are the offical numbers of Lincoln's Slaughter:

775,638 Union Soldiers
+/- 312,000 Confederate Soldiers

Not Counting Women or Children.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


clappa

Proverbs 12:4

A good wife is her husband's pride and joy; but a wife who brings shame on her husband is like a cancer in his bones.

Lincoln's wife was a COLOSSAL bitch and maniac. God would NEVER give one of His son's that beast for a wife. Lincoln was a mass murderer and a son of satan. The accepted history is total BS.

Come judgement day he will have a lot to answer for ...
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OK, LETS ADD UP THE NUMBERS:

775,638 UNION SOLDIERS
312,000 CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS
40,000 BLACK SOLDIERS
28,OOO INDIAN SOLDIERS
30,000 "DISAPPEARED" IN "INDEFINITE DETENTION"

=1,185,638 DEAD AMERICANS
(STILL NOT COUNTING WOMEN AND CHILDREN)
OVER 1 MILLION KILLED FOR LINCOLN'S WAR.


*******WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!*********
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Well I Karma Pinned it
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Now I really know your education level; Lenin didn't take over Russia until the Bolshevik revolution, circa 1917. And no, Andrew Jackson kicked the Bank of England out during his presidency, decades prior to Lincoln coming into office. This is pretty easy to look up... keep researching though, information is power.
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You are SO OUT OF WACK.

Bravo to OP for a tremendous post.

The Lincoln Movie is another piece of Spielberg trash.

And the OP never said Lenin was in the 19th-century. This is a serious Thread, and you are not contributing to the discussion, pal.
 Quoting: 13th-Century


Youre contributing nothing except movie reviews. There are many indications that Lincoln was actually a good person, and fought the elite banksters. You and the OP probably never heard of greenbacks, am I right?
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OK, LETS ADD UP THE NUMBERS:

775,638 UNION SOLDIERS
312,000 CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS
40,000 BLACK SOLDIERS
28,OOO INDIAN SOLDIERS
30,000 "DISAPPEARED" IN "INDEFINITE DETENTION"

=1,185,638 DEAD AMERICANS
(STILL NOT COUNTING WOMEN AND CHILDREN)
OVER 1 MILLION KILLED FOR LINCOLN'S WAR.


*******WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!*********
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


It was Lincoln's war which eventually emancipated the slaves. Did you not want them freed?
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I am truely distgusted by the undying hero worship of the horrible man, Abraham Lincoln. Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.

History tells us that Lincoln was a politically ambitious
lawyer who eagerly prostituted himself to northern industrialists who were unwilling to pay world prices for their raw materials and who, rather than practice real capitalism, enlisted BRUTE GOVERNMENT FORCE-"sell to us at our price or pay a fine that will put you out of business"
-for dealing with uncooperative southern suppliers. In support of this "noble principable", when southerners demonstrated what amounted to no more than token resistance,
Lincoln permitted an internal war to begin
THAT BUTCHERED MORE AMERICANS THAN ALL OF THIS COUNTRY'S WARS-BEFORE AND AFTERWARD-ROLLED INTO ONE.

Lincoln saw the introduction of TOTAL WAR on the American continent-INDESCRIMATE MASS SLAUGHTER AND DESTRUCTION WITHOUT REGARD TO AGE, GENDER,RACE,OR COMBAT STATUS OF THE VICTIMS- AND OVERSAW THE SYSTEMATIC SHELLING AND BURNING OF ENTIRE CITIES FOR STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL PURPOSES.
For the same purposes, Lincoln declared, LATE IN THE WAR,
that black slaves were now free in the south- where he had no juristiction-
WHILE DECLARING at the same time, somewhat more quietly but FOR THE RECORD nonetheless,
*that if MAINTAINING SLAVERY COULD HAVE WON THIS WAR FOR HIM, HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT INSTEAD!

I swear on the "Lincoln Bible" its time for the truth....

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About time someone posted this truth.

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South Carolina seceded first in 1861, after Lincoln became president.
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Lincoln was inaugurated in march 1861. Much of the South had seceded by then. You southrons are very deficient in history.
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you are a fucking idiot

[link to memory.loc.gov]

They succeeded because of Lincoln

and btw that war had nothing to do with Slaves...

My great great great great grandpa fought for the Confederacy... Years after the war his grand son asked him why he fought against the blacks...

He said...
"God damnnit, I didn't fight for no slaves. I fought to remove oppression and tyranny from all people. I didnt risk my life so some rich plantation owner in Georgia could sit on his ass and not lift his finger. I fought aside the Negroes. Fine soldiers the lot of them. Those sum bitches in Washington didnt give one damn about the dark folk, the poor folk or any folk. Shadow Puppets the whole of us were. It was a war started by greed and greed alone on both sides. I fought so my children could live without the pressures of greedy men"

Not much has changed has it?


btw its not Southrons
Its Southerners
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Its really not necessary for you to talk like this. It adds nothing to the discussion and simply displays your character. For the record your link is incorrect. Below is a timeline of events.

-Lincoln was elected on November 6th 1860

-December 20th, 1860, South Carolina held a secession convention in Charleston. The debate was quick and short. Representatives voted unanimously, 169 to 0 for secession.

-Also prior to Lincoln being inaugurated, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Lousiana and Texas left the union.

-Lincoln was inaugurated on March 4, 1861

-On April 12th, 1861, at about 4:30 AM, South Carolina militia forces in Charleston opened fire on Fort Sumter. (This was the trigger that started the war)

[link to ehistory.osu.edu]
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Well I Karma Pinned it
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YOU'RE AWESOME! THANKSAGAIN.
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OP, I understand what you're saying and do not disagree, but you have to keep in mind that Lincoln was the President of the United States....He was a puppet for the "elite" just like every other president. Lincoln was as much a puppet back then as Obama is today. Sure he was President but he was merely a puppet for the real decision-makers of our country. And the fact that he was assassinated (by the USA, of course) leads me to believe that he was TRYING to do something right (I don't know what) at the time for his 2nd term, and that led to his murder. No different than JFK I suspect... And for all we know, Lincoln could have given a speech completely exposing "TPTB" just like JFK did, except we have no proof because there was no easy way to record audio back then, like we had with Kennedy. Not at all saying it happened that way, but the fact he was hit off is fishy. Just my opinions you don't have to agree. I've heard everything about Lincoln from hero to "mass murderer," everything from Mason to Christian, and everything from homosexual to vampire slayer. For all we know he could have been Hillary Clinton time traveling in drag. One thing is for certain though, and that is that he WAS a puppet for the people that actually run the country...everyone knows the president is simply that; a PUPPET.
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OK, LETS ADD UP THE NUMBERS:

775,638 UNION SOLDIERS
312,000 CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS
40,000 BLACK SOLDIERS
28,OOO INDIAN SOLDIERS
30,000 "DISAPPEARED" IN "INDEFINITE DETENTION"

=1,185,638 DEAD AMERICANS
(STILL NOT COUNTING WOMEN AND CHILDREN)
OVER 1 MILLION KILLED FOR LINCOLN'S WAR.


*******WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!*********
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


It was Lincoln's war which eventually emancipated the slaves. Did you not want them freed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


"freeing" the slaves was the cover up for the fuck up of the million plus dead and country torn to hell...

They had to save face... they had to do something worthwhile... had it been about slaves... Lincoln would have freed them day one in office... did he... nope...


check this out...

[link to wiki.answers.com]
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Now I really know your education level; Lenin didn't take over Russia until the Bolshevik revolution, circa 1917. And no, Andrew Jackson kicked the Bank of England out during his presidency, decades prior to Lincoln coming into office. This is pretty easy to look up... keep researching though, information is power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24028110


You are SO OUT OF WACK.

Bravo to OP for a tremendous post.

The Lincoln Movie is another piece of Spielberg trash.

And the OP never said Lenin was in the 19th-century. This is a serious Thread, and you are not contributing to the discussion, pal.
 Quoting: 13th-Century


Youre contributing nothing except movie reviews. There are many indications that Lincoln was actually a good person, and fought the elite banksters. You and the OP probably never heard of greenbacks, am I right?
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Buchanan, then Lincoln, were political whores. Lincoln was never an abolishionist. He only penned the Emancipation Proclimation (An Executive Order based on no law) late in the war when Northern support for the war was flagging, with most people saying just let the South go their seperate way. Lincoln, faced with the prospect of retreating from the war, co-opted the last group that reinforce the wanning support for the war, the Northern Abolishionists...

Lincoln was no hero, he slaughtered his own people and carried out a slash and burn campaign on the South, and the only reason he took on the bankers, that he was cozy with early in the war, was because they refused to slash the war debt as much as Lincoln had promised to the Northern Industrialists that the banks would...

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Excellent post, OP. It's disheartening when you learn that Lincoln, who we were taught as kids growing up in the U.S. was a brilliant leader and a hero, was actually a traitor and a horrifically destructive force in American history.

Few people know that he didn't give a shit about the slaves, and used the Emancipation Proclamation solely as a war measure, to screw the South to the maximum. He actually never even remotely considered making blacks equal to whites in any way, be it socially or politically, and said he'd like to send all blacks to "some fertile country like Liberia, which they could have to themselves".

He had those who disagreed with his policies thrown in prison, without so much as a trial (it's well known he suspended Habeas corpus, in direct contravention to the Constitution). He bought newspapers and forced them to publish propaganda in support of his policies. He stumped for, and successfully ensured the passing of, the Morrill Tariff, which financially crippled the South. The Morrill Tariff was merely the final straw; there had been a series of very draconian tariffs for decades, imposed by the North on the South, and none of them had ANYTHING to do with slavery. The incredibly unjust tariffs were the main reason the South decided to secede from the Union.

But that wasn't acceptable, as far as Lincoln was concerned. In his inauguration speech, he basically threatened to attack the South if they refused to pay the tariff, though he was careful not to use those exact words. But the South had already decided, since the series of tariffs that had been imposed were unconstitutional, that the only option was secession.

A group of Southern states seceded, as was their right under the Constitution, but Lincoln decided that was unacceptable, AND ATTACKED THEM, starting what could only be called, "The War Against Southern Independence". In so doing, he gave a big, fat middle finger to the Constitution, slaughtered untold numbers of his countrymen, and ensured that, absolutely contrary to his most famous quote, that government of the people, by the people, and for the people absolutely DID perish from the Earth.

After Lincoln's horrific actions, the term "These United States" became "The United States". Instead of a group of States with like-minded goals and a shared ideology, who came together and agreed to peacefully coexist for the greater good, after the "Civil War" (a terrible misnomer of a name, by the way) what you had was a far more powerful and more centralized Federal government, which demonstrated that it no longer GAVE A SHIT what the individual states wanted. The states were no longer able to govern their affairs as they saw fit, with only minimal intrusion from the Federal government. Now you had a situation where, if any particular state or group of states decided that the Federal government no longer represented its interests and it decided to secede, the Federal government wouldn't hesitate to use its position of power and influence to ensure that THIS WAS NOT ALLOWED. Even if it had to start a war to enforce that power, it would.

Lincoln set us on the road to perdition we're suffering on today, the one with a tremendously powerful, willfully abusive Federal government that does, basically, whatever the fuck it wants, and states' rights are considered a silly anachronism by the uneducated public, who have been brainwashed by government schooling to believe that Lincoln "saved the Union". What a crock of horseshit!

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