Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 1,355 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 433,023
Pageviews Today: 589,698Threads Today: 126Posts Today: 2,985
06:48 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 31645593
United States
01/17/2013 11:27 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
OP - 5 stars for speaking the truth. Most of us know this to be the truth and are sick of hearing the lies. God Bless you.

Lincoln should have been charged with genocide, had he lived, but I doubt he would have either way. You don't decimate an entire section of the country and not pay the consquences. My family have been in the North since we arrived here with the pilgrims - and it was even obvious to us.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 9142675
United States
01/17/2013 11:28 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
You do realize the attack was in response to Lincoln's "aid" correct? He was deliberately trying to provoke an attack, and was never amiable to peaceful secession beforehand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791


Wrong, read that article. A Union general secretly relocated a hundred troops there, well before Lincoln tried to feed them as they were starving.. Lincoln wasnt some master manipulator, he was more of a puppet as one poster mentioned before. All presidents are, and if they dont want to be controlled, they get assassinated.

The point that Lincoln haters never mention is that South Carolina seceded before the Ft Sumter attack, and the confederates were actually the first threat to the country.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 9142675
United States
01/17/2013 11:29 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
OP - 5 stars for speaking the truth. Most of us know this to be the truth and are sick of hearing the lies. God Bless you.

Lincoln should have been charged with genocide, had he lived, but I doubt he would have either way. You don't decimate an entire section of the country and not pay the consquences. My family have been in the North since we arrived here with the pilgrims - and it was even obvious to us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31645593


Calling someone names isnt 'truth'. I encourage you to check the definition.
.:*Buttercup*:. (OP)

User ID: 18380705
United States
01/17/2013 11:29 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


That's exactly why Lincoln is idolized and considered the greatest president. They want us to think it's good for the government to trample upon our rights and murder us in the millions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791


Thank you so much, Thailand GLPer.
Your posts are most apprieciated.
Sometimes it takes an "International Point of View"
to discern the truth from fiction.
It's like America was a "abuse victim in denial", and the therapist is trying to help it deal with it's issues...

thank you for your thoughts with a forgien perpective.
America needs to hear the truth.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 9142675
United States
01/17/2013 11:32 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
You do realize the attack was in response to Lincoln's "aid" correct? He was deliberately trying to provoke an attack, and was never amiable to peaceful secession beforehand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791


Wrong, read that article. A Union general secretly relocated a hundred troops there, well before Lincoln tried to feed them as they were starving.. Lincoln wasnt some master manipulator, he was more of a puppet as one poster mentioned before. All presidents are, and if they dont want to be controlled, they get assassinated.

The point that Lincoln haters never mention is that South Carolina seceded before the Ft Sumter attack, and the confederates were actually the first threat to the country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


Actually, the secret relocating of union troops to Ft Sumter happened six days after South Carolina seceded. Again, case closed.
cabbage_goddess

User ID: 19207131
United States
01/17/2013 11:32 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
Excellent post, OP. It's disheartening when you learn that Lincoln, who we were taught as kids growing up in the U.S. was a brilliant leader and a hero, was actually a traitor and a horrifically destructive force in American history.

Few people know that he didn't give a shit about the slaves, and used the Emancipation Proclamation solely as a war measure, to screw the South to the maximum. He actually never even remotely considered making blacks equal to whites in any way, be it socially or politically, and said he'd like to send all blacks to "some fertile country like Liberia, which they could have to themselves".

He had those who disagreed with his policies thrown in prison, without so much as a trial (it's well known he suspended Habeas corpus, in direct contravention to the Constitution). He bought newspapers and forced them to publish propaganda in support of his policies. He stumped for, and successfully ensured the passing of, the Morrill Tariff, which financially crippled the South. The Morrill Tariff was merely the final straw; there had been a series of very draconian tariffs for decades, imposed by the North on the South, and none of them had ANYTHING to do with slavery. The incredibly unjust tariffs were the main reason the South decided to secede from the Union.

But that wasn't acceptable, as far as Lincoln was concerned. In his inauguration speech, he basically threatened to attack the South if they refused to pay the tariff, though he was careful not to use those exact words. But the South had already decided, since the series of tariffs that had been imposed were unconstitutional, that the only option was secession.

A group of Southern states seceded, as was their right under the Constitution, but Lincoln decided that was unacceptable, AND ATTACKED THEM, starting what could only be called, "The War Against Southern Independence". In so doing, he gave a big, fat middle finger to the Constitution, slaughtered untold numbers of his countrymen, and ensured that, absolutely contrary to his most famous quote, that government of the people, by the people, and for the people absolutely DID perish from the Earth.

After Lincoln's horrific actions, the term "These United States" became "The United States". Instead of a group of States with like-minded goals and a shared ideology, who came together and agreed to peacefully coexist for the greater good, after the "Civil War" (a terrible misnomer of a name, by the way) what you had was a far more powerful and more centralized Federal government, which demonstrated that it no longer GAVE A SHIT what the individual states wanted. The states were no longer able to govern their affairs as they saw fit, with only minimal intrusion from the Federal government. Now you had a situation where, if any particular state or group of states decided that the Federal government no longer represented its interests and it decided to secede, the Federal government wouldn't hesitate to use its position of power and influence to ensure that THIS WAS NOT ALLOWED. Even if it had to start a war to enforce that power, it would.

Lincoln set us on the road to perdition we're suffering on today, the one with a tremendously powerful, willfully abusive Federal government that does, basically, whatever the fuck it wants, and states' rights are considered a silly anachronism by the uneducated public, who have been brainwashed by government schooling to believe that Lincoln "saved the Union". What a crock of horseshit!

rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32368412


clappa
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 9142675
United States
01/17/2013 11:33 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


That's exactly why Lincoln is idolized and considered the greatest president. They want us to think it's good for the government to trample upon our rights and murder us in the millions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791


Thank you so much, Thailand GLPer.
Your posts are most apprieciated.
Sometimes it takes an "International Point of View"
to discern the truth from fiction.
It's like America was a "abuse victim in denial", and the therapist is trying to help it deal with it's issues...

thank you for your thoughts with a forgien perpective.
America needs to hear the truth.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


Actually, America would be a lot better off if people tried to fight the present evils of the world. You ignored all talk of the banking elite, how typical.
SilverPatriot

User ID: 10518597
United States
01/17/2013 11:44 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
I am truely distgusted by the undying hero worship of the horrible man, Abraham Lincoln. Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.

History tells us that Lincoln was a politically ambitious
lawyer who eagerly prostituted himself to northern industrialists who were unwilling to pay world prices for their raw materials and who, rather than practice real capitalism, enlisted BRUTE GOVERNMENT FORCE-"sell to us at our price or pay a fine that will put you out of business"
-for dealing with uncooperative southern suppliers. In support of this "noble principable", when southerners demonstrated what amounted to no more than token resistance,
Lincoln permitted an internal war to begin
THAT BUTCHERED MORE AMERICANS THAN ALL OF THIS COUNTRY'S WARS-BEFORE AND AFTERWARD-ROLLED INTO ONE.

Lincoln saw the introduction of TOTAL WAR on the American continent-INDESCRIMATE MASS SLAUGHTER AND DESTRUCTION WITHOUT REGARD TO AGE, GENDER,RACE,OR COMBAT STATUS OF THE VICTIMS- AND OVERSAW THE SYSTEMATIC SHELLING AND BURNING OF ENTIRE CITIES FOR STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL PURPOSES.
For the same purposes, Lincoln declared, LATE IN THE WAR,
that black slaves were now free in the south- where he had no juristiction-
WHILE DECLARING at the same time, somewhat more quietly but FOR THE RECORD nonetheless,
*that if MAINTAINING SLAVERY COULD HAVE WON THIS WAR FOR HIM, HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT INSTEAD!

I swear on the "Lincoln Bible" its time for the truth....

[link to www.sunray22b.net]
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


You quote a blog, really a blog of someone’s personal opinions as information based upon facts please get real and understand that we all have opinions and can blog but that does not constitute historical reality.
Janus198

User ID: 875736
United States
01/17/2013 11:53 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
I swear on a bible that you're deficient in history.

The south seceded before Lincoln even took office. The south was supported by the Bank of England (Rothschild). Lincoln used the help of the Russian Navy to stop the flow of support from the British empire to the south. Lincoln realized that if the south were successful, the continued slavery coupled with the Bank of England would be disastrous for this country.
When the south was defeated, Lincoln was assassinated for his stalwart position, and the US bought Alaska for $7 million to thank Russia for their support.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24028110


um, EVERYONE was supported by the Bank of England then.
don't try to make this a "Rothchild issue".
He used the Russian Navy?
So he's a hero like Lenin.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


I swear on a bible that you're deficient in history.

The south seceded before Lincoln even took office. The south was supported by the Bank of England (Rothschild). Lincoln used the help of the Russian Navy to stop the flow of support from the British empire to the south. Lincoln realized that if the south were successful, the continued slavery coupled with the Bank of England would be disastrous for this country.
When the south was defeated, Lincoln was assassinated for his stalwart position, and the US bought Alaska for $7 million to thank Russia for their support.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24028110


um, EVERYONE was supported by the Bank of England then.
don't try to make this a "Rothchild issue".
He used the Russian Navy?
So he's a hero like Lenin.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


Actually old Abe used German mercs to raze the south,
after capitulation of it's military, which included but
was not limited to the burning of plantations and murder
of everyone on plantations from field hands to land
owners.

He also had the press imprisoned during the war,
and ordered the hanging of rebel POW's, many of whom
were grateful for death compared to the conditions
of imprisonment.

He consolidated federal power as the first Illuminati
strike at what had been the Constitutional federal
government of the fledgeling United States of America.

No surprise he was assassinated.

Whole families were wiped out by old Abe's order, who had come from England
Scotland and Wales, to establish crops that in some cases
were bigger than whole counties where they were from,
while founding the most mannered and genteel of cultures.

OP is right. Time for history to be righted about the
half Arab bastard child of a prostitute who served sailors
from her cabin in the woods, 11 miles from the town where
old Abe walked to borrow books, which sounds about
half familiar and could be a description of Obama,
though Obama has probably never read a book in his life,
or walked anywhere but into gay bathing facilities.
Janus198
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 9142675
United States
01/17/2013 11:55 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


That's exactly why Lincoln is idolized and considered the greatest president. They want us to think it's good for the government to trample upon our rights and murder us in the millions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791


You must have missed all the talk about greenbacks and interest-bearing currency. Again I ask, how many war casualties have there been since the civil war? And who finances these wars? The same people Lincoln was trying to put out of business. Case closed shilly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


Furthermore, it is exactly BECAUSE of Lincoln that the world is now under the boot heel of the out of control, warmongering United States federal government. HE is solely responsible for the creation of this monster.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791


Again you miss the point about the issuing of greenbacks.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 9142675
United States
01/17/2013 11:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
I swear on a bible that you're deficient in history.

The south seceded before Lincoln even took office. The south was supported by the Bank of England (Rothschild). Lincoln used the help of the Russian Navy to stop the flow of support from the British empire to the south. Lincoln realized that if the south were successful, the continued slavery coupled with the Bank of England would be disastrous for this country.
When the south was defeated, Lincoln was assassinated for his stalwart position, and the US bought Alaska for $7 million to thank Russia for their support.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24028110


um, EVERYONE was supported by the Bank of England then.
don't try to make this a "Rothchild issue".
He used the Russian Navy?
So he's a hero like Lenin.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


I swear on a bible that you're deficient in history.

The south seceded before Lincoln even took office. The south was supported by the Bank of England (Rothschild). Lincoln used the help of the Russian Navy to stop the flow of support from the British empire to the south. Lincoln realized that if the south were successful, the continued slavery coupled with the Bank of England would be disastrous for this country.
When the south was defeated, Lincoln was assassinated for his stalwart position, and the US bought Alaska for $7 million to thank Russia for their support.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24028110


um, EVERYONE was supported by the Bank of England then.
don't try to make this a "Rothchild issue".
He used the Russian Navy?
So he's a hero like Lenin.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


Actually old Abe used German mercs to raze the south,
after capitulation of it's military, which included but
was not limited to the burning of plantations and murder
of everyone on plantations from field hands to land
owners.

He also had the press imprisoned during the war,
and ordered the hanging of rebel POW's, many of whom
were grateful for death compared to the conditions
of imprisonment.

He consolidated federal power as the first Illuminati
strike at what had been the Constitutional federal
government of the fledgeling United States of America.

No surprise he was assassinated.

Whole families were wiped out by old Abe's order, who had come from England
Scotland and Wales, to establish crops that in some cases
were bigger than whole counties where they were from,
while founding the most mannered and genteel of cultures.

OP is right. Time for history to be righted about the
half Arab bastard child of a prostitute who served sailors
from her cabin in the woods, 11 miles from the town where
old Abe walked to borrow books, which sounds about
half familiar and could be a description of Obama,
though Obama has probably never read a book in his life,
or walked anywhere but into gay bathing facilities.
 Quoting: Janus198


Everything you said here is nullified by the fact that he was killed by a high order mason.
RockHall

User ID: 31649069
United States
01/18/2013 12:03 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
I am truely distgusted by the undying hero worship of the horrible man, Abraham Lincoln. Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.

History tells us that Lincoln was a politically ambitious
lawyer who eagerly prostituted himself to northern industrialists who were unwilling to pay world prices for their raw materials and who, rather than practice real capitalism, enlisted BRUTE GOVERNMENT FORCE-"sell to us at our price or pay a fine that will put you out of business"
-for dealing with uncooperative southern suppliers. In support of this "noble principable", when southerners demonstrated what amounted to no more than token resistance,
Lincoln permitted an internal war to begin
THAT BUTCHERED MORE AMERICANS THAN ALL OF THIS COUNTRY'S WARS-BEFORE AND AFTERWARD-ROLLED INTO ONE.

Lincoln saw the introduction of TOTAL WAR on the American continent-INDESCRIMATE MASS SLAUGHTER AND DESTRUCTION WITHOUT REGARD TO AGE, GENDER,RACE,OR COMBAT STATUS OF THE VICTIMS- AND OVERSAW THE SYSTEMATIC SHELLING AND BURNING OF ENTIRE CITIES FOR STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL PURPOSES.
For the same purposes, Lincoln declared, LATE IN THE WAR,
that black slaves were now free in the south- where he had no juristiction-
WHILE DECLARING at the same time, somewhat more quietly but FOR THE RECORD nonetheless,
*that if MAINTAINING SLAVERY COULD HAVE WON THIS WAR FOR HIM, HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT INSTEAD!

I swear on the "Lincoln Bible" its time for the truth....

[link to www.sunray22b.net]
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


.:*Buttercup*:. Darling...

You have every right to say what you will on this subject.

Let's get this straight... The Civil War WAS "Mr. Lincoln's War." (If you haven't seen the movie "Gangs of New York," buy yourself a copy and keep it for all time (It's a Masterpiece).

Another important point to make regarding "Mr. Lincoln's War.." 700,000 men were "Killed in Action" during that war. (But what does that mean?)

"Killed in Action" (KIA) is the number of soldiers (not including bystanders) who were KILLED BEFORE THE BATTLE ENDED!!!! So what does that mean?

It means that all who "survived the battle" who died on an operating table or waiting for medical help were NOT among those who were KIA!

But why do I transgress this far?

In my opinion (as an analytic historian), Lincoln (allied with the northern industrialists) was nothing other than an honest man who saw that Julius Caesar's 'divine strategy'of "Divide and Conquer" was the real enemy and that real enemy was the "mother country" that lost "The War of Independence."

In short, Lincoln saw the future. He knew full well that the "Old Word Order" was once again undertaking its encroachment against the rebellious colonists. And he killed millions of Americans from preventing this from happening. (And I think he'd do it again if he had to.)

And what do we have today...

We have a "New World Order" (as said by three U.S. Presidents, two U.S. Senators and two Popes) knocking on our door. What you need to know here is that the "New World Order" is nothing more than an an acronym for "The Old World Order,"

I give you all the credit in the world for doing what you can to find the real truth of our FIRST Civil War. But I think you need a little more time of study before you take on the real truth. It's a VERY complicated subject, but it is absolutely worth your while to put your time into it.
God Bless You.
"I think, therefore I am..."
René Descartes

"I don't think, therefore I am not..."
RockHall
pool
Netizen Ribbonmind

User ID: 18381151
United States
01/18/2013 12:06 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
Abe was limited in faculties and forsight to his faults. He probably wasn't aware of everything happening by the free-militia he created. His mind was that of a child.
No yesterday, no tomorrow.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 9142675
United States
01/18/2013 12:10 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
I am truely distgusted by the undying hero worship of the horrible man, Abraham Lincoln. Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.

History tells us that Lincoln was a politically ambitious
lawyer who eagerly prostituted himself to northern industrialists who were unwilling to pay world prices for their raw materials and who, rather than practice real capitalism, enlisted BRUTE GOVERNMENT FORCE-"sell to us at our price or pay a fine that will put you out of business"
-for dealing with uncooperative southern suppliers. In support of this "noble principable", when southerners demonstrated what amounted to no more than token resistance,
Lincoln permitted an internal war to begin
THAT BUTCHERED MORE AMERICANS THAN ALL OF THIS COUNTRY'S WARS-BEFORE AND AFTERWARD-ROLLED INTO ONE.

Lincoln saw the introduction of TOTAL WAR on the American continent-INDESCRIMATE MASS SLAUGHTER AND DESTRUCTION WITHOUT REGARD TO AGE, GENDER,RACE,OR COMBAT STATUS OF THE VICTIMS- AND OVERSAW THE SYSTEMATIC SHELLING AND BURNING OF ENTIRE CITIES FOR STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL PURPOSES.
For the same purposes, Lincoln declared, LATE IN THE WAR,
that black slaves were now free in the south- where he had no juristiction-
WHILE DECLARING at the same time, somewhat more quietly but FOR THE RECORD nonetheless,
*that if MAINTAINING SLAVERY COULD HAVE WON THIS WAR FOR HIM, HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT INSTEAD!

I swear on the "Lincoln Bible" its time for the truth....

[link to www.sunray22b.net]
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


.:*Buttercup*:. Darling...

You have every right to say what you will on this subject.

Let's get this straight... The Civil War WAS "Mr. Lincoln's War." (If you haven't seen the movie "Gangs of New York," buy yourself a copy and keep it for all time (It's a Masterpiece).

Another important point to make regarding "Mr. Lincoln's War.." 700,000 men were "Killed in Action" during that war. (But what does that mean?)

"Killed in Action" (KIA) is the number of soldiers (not including bystanders) who were KILLED BEFORE THE BATTLE ENDED!!!! So what does that mean?

It means that all who "survived the battle" who died on an operating table or waiting for medical help were NOT among those who were KIA!

But why do I transgress this far?

In my opinion (as an analytic historian), Lincoln (allied with the northern industrialists) was nothing other than an honest man who saw that Julius Caesar's 'divine strategy'of "Divide and Conquer" was the real enemy and that real enemy was the "mother country" that lost "The War of Independence."

In short, Lincoln saw the future. He knew full well that the "Old Word Order" was once again undertaking its encroachment against the rebellious colonists. And he killed millions of Americans from preventing this from happening. (And I think he'd do it again if he had to.)

And what do we have today...

We have a "New World Order" (as said by three U.S. Presidents, two U.S. Senators and two Popes) knocking on our door. What you need to know here is that the "New World Order" is nothing more than an an acronym for "The Old World Order,"

I give you all the credit in the world for doing what you can to find the real truth of our FIRST Civil War. But I think you need a little more time of study before you take on the real truth. It's a VERY complicated subject, but it is absolutely worth your while to put your time into it.
God Bless You.
 Quoting: RockHall


They dont want to acknowledge the illuminati..It really makes them obvious shills or simply lacking adequate research.
.:*Buttercup*:. (OP)

User ID: 18380705
United States
01/18/2013 12:11 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


That's exactly why Lincoln is idolized and considered the greatest president. They want us to think it's good for the government to trample upon our rights and murder us in the millions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791


Thank you so much, Thailand GLPer.
Your posts are most apprieciated.
Sometimes it takes an "International Point of View"
to discern the truth from fiction.
It's like America was a "abuse victim in denial", and the therapist is trying to help it deal with it's issues...

thank you for your thoughts with a forgien perpective.
America needs to hear the truth.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


Actually, America would be a lot better off if people tried to fight the present evils of the world. You ignored all talk of the banking elite, how typical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675

Even Jesus himself could not control the "banking elite".
I don't want to make ANY RELIGOUS ARGUEMENT( so it ends here).BUT There is no controling that factor of society,
its an inherant evil,
but we must NOT SACRIFICE OUR PEOPLE IN ANY WAY for them.

This is a present evil now,
WHY WE HAVE TO KNOW OUR TRUE HISTORY,
NOT A "FLUFFY" VERSION OF IT.
SilverPatriot

User ID: 10518597
United States
01/18/2013 12:11 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
Abe was limited in faculties and forsight to his faults. He probably wasn't aware of everything happening by the free-militia he created. His mind was that of a child.
 Quoting: pool


Just listen to the babblings of “dear leader” obama the communist wanker who deems himself comparable to Abraham Lincoln.

Obama: I have it tougher than Abe Lincoln
[link to dailycaller.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 9142675
United States
01/18/2013 12:18 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
...


That's exactly why Lincoln is idolized and considered the greatest president. They want us to think it's good for the government to trample upon our rights and murder us in the millions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24760791


Thank you so much, Thailand GLPer.
Your posts are most apprieciated.
Sometimes it takes an "International Point of View"
to discern the truth from fiction.
It's like America was a "abuse victim in denial", and the therapist is trying to help it deal with it's issues...

thank you for your thoughts with a forgien perpective.
America needs to hear the truth.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


Actually, America would be a lot better off if people tried to fight the present evils of the world. You ignored all talk of the banking elite, how typical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675

Even Jesus himself could not control the "banking elite".
I don't want to make ANY RELIGOUS ARGUEMENT( so it ends here).BUT There is no controling that factor of society,
its an inherant evil,
but we must NOT SACRIFICE OUR PEOPLE IN ANY WAY for them.

This is a present evil now,
WHY WE HAVE TO KNOW OUR TRUE HISTORY,
NOT A "FLUFFY" VERSION OF IT.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


Matthew 22:20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.


Of course lives will be lost fighting the evil powers that control nearly all the money. But if you read Revelation that wouldnt be news to you.
.:*Buttercup*:. (OP)

User ID: 18380705
United States
01/18/2013 12:24 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
I am truely distgusted by the undying hero worship of the horrible man, Abraham Lincoln. Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.

History tells us that Lincoln was a politically ambitious
lawyer who eagerly prostituted himself to northern industrialists who were unwilling to pay world prices for their raw materials and who, rather than practice real capitalism, enlisted BRUTE GOVERNMENT FORCE-"sell to us at our price or pay a fine that will put you out of business"
-for dealing with uncooperative southern suppliers. In support of this "noble principable", when southerners demonstrated what amounted to no more than token resistance,
Lincoln permitted an internal war to begin
THAT BUTCHERED MORE AMERICANS THAN ALL OF THIS COUNTRY'S WARS-BEFORE AND AFTERWARD-ROLLED INTO ONE.

Lincoln saw the introduction of TOTAL WAR on the American continent-INDESCRIMATE MASS SLAUGHTER AND DESTRUCTION WITHOUT REGARD TO AGE, GENDER,RACE,OR COMBAT STATUS OF THE VICTIMS- AND OVERSAW THE SYSTEMATIC SHELLING AND BURNING OF ENTIRE CITIES FOR STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL PURPOSES.
For the same purposes, Lincoln declared, LATE IN THE WAR,
that black slaves were now free in the south- where he had no juristiction-
WHILE DECLARING at the same time, somewhat more quietly but FOR THE RECORD nonetheless,
*that if MAINTAINING SLAVERY COULD HAVE WON THIS WAR FOR HIM, HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT INSTEAD!

I swear on the "Lincoln Bible" its time for the truth....

[link to www.sunray22b.net]
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


You quote a blog, really a blog of someone’s personal opinions as information based upon facts please get real and understand that we all have opinions and can blog but that does not constitute historical reality.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


SERIUOSLY, WHAT IS AN "AMERICAN HISTORY BOOK" USED IN AMERICAN PUBLIC SCHOOLS? iTS...IN YOUR WORDS..."OPINIONS
AS INFORMATION...WHAT? BASED ON FACTS!!!!

This authour, L. Neil Smith is a TRUE AMERICAN WRITER.
What makes him different than "History Book Writers"?
He tells the TRUTH WITH BRASS BALLS!
I invite you to his website, (that I saw after I posted eariler today)
He understands America, and what going on right now.
Let me introduce him to you GLPER'S
[link to www.lneilsmith.org]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1012969
United States
01/18/2013 12:26 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
Forget not that England used the opportunity to exaggerate the slavery issue in hopes of creating a massive civil war which would hopefully destroy America. They had backup plans which ultimately led to the illegal Federal Reserve and the "100 year take over of America", which we are at the end of now. The 100 year plan may have even worked if it weren't for the Internet exploiting all the enemy, corrupt and traitors.

too bad for them,...again.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1012969
United States
01/18/2013 12:28 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
History books for for sheep and soccer moms. Two groups of people which have no place in protecting, defining, and keeping America America.
pool
Netizen Ribbonmind

User ID: 18381151
United States
01/18/2013 12:28 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
Abe was limited in faculties and forsight to his faults. He probably wasn't aware of everything happening by the free-militia he created. His mind was that of a child.
 Quoting: pool


Just listen to the babblings of “dear leader” obama the communist wanker who deems himself comparable to Abraham Lincoln.

Obama: I have it tougher than Abe Lincoln
[link to dailycaller.com]
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Obama is truly delusional and full of projections. If he has any intentions of waging war against Americans, he needs to snap the fuck out of it NOW. Tim Geithner will destroy us before Obama realizes they are both delusional, making the "Abe Lincoln" projection Obama's MASK of irresponsibility.

Lincoln didn't care what the States thought of him. He was steadfast in one direction. Swaying wasn't his agenda. Obama has been a people pleaser for years, never embracing a permanent direction. This is the easily manipulated weakness being played over and over, by other people Obama's entire life.

Obama is more like the religion-confused fatherless child who's about to pick up mommy's gun than a man with a clear conscious.
No yesterday, no tomorrow.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 8829929
United States
01/18/2013 12:29 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
This is a refreshing thread. I enjoy seeing people taking a critical look at their history. I wish someone would film your version of Lincoln's life.
.:*Buttercup*:. (OP)

User ID: 18380705
United States
01/18/2013 12:32 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
OP - 5 stars for speaking the truth. Most of us know this to be the truth and are sick of hearing the lies. God Bless you.

Lincoln should have been charged with genocide, had he lived, but I doubt he would have either way. You don't decimate an entire section of the country and not pay the consquences. My family have been in the North since we arrived here with the pilgrims - and it was even obvious to us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31645593


Thank you Ms.Mayflower. I've been in this country from Wales
in 1550 (as a slave), and my Native American family(forever). Its really up to us Real Americans to pass on the truth. So many people "came over" after the fact, they don't know what to believe.
SilverPatriot

User ID: 10518597
United States
01/18/2013 12:32 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
I am truely distgusted by the undying hero worship of the horrible man, Abraham Lincoln. Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.

History tells us that Lincoln was a politically ambitious
lawyer who eagerly prostituted himself to northern industrialists who were unwilling to pay world prices for their raw materials and who, rather than practice real capitalism, enlisted BRUTE GOVERNMENT FORCE-"sell to us at our price or pay a fine that will put you out of business"
-for dealing with uncooperative southern suppliers. In support of this "noble principable", when southerners demonstrated what amounted to no more than token resistance,
Lincoln permitted an internal war to begin
THAT BUTCHERED MORE AMERICANS THAN ALL OF THIS COUNTRY'S WARS-BEFORE AND AFTERWARD-ROLLED INTO ONE.

Lincoln saw the introduction of TOTAL WAR on the American continent-INDESCRIMATE MASS SLAUGHTER AND DESTRUCTION WITHOUT REGARD TO AGE, GENDER,RACE,OR COMBAT STATUS OF THE VICTIMS- AND OVERSAW THE SYSTEMATIC SHELLING AND BURNING OF ENTIRE CITIES FOR STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL PURPOSES.
For the same purposes, Lincoln declared, LATE IN THE WAR,
that black slaves were now free in the south- where he had no juristiction-
WHILE DECLARING at the same time, somewhat more quietly but FOR THE RECORD nonetheless,
*that if MAINTAINING SLAVERY COULD HAVE WON THIS WAR FOR HIM, HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT INSTEAD!

I swear on the "Lincoln Bible" its time for the truth....

[link to www.sunray22b.net]
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


You quote a blog, really a blog of someone’s personal opinions as information based upon facts please get real and understand that we all have opinions and can blog but that does not constitute historical reality.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


SERIUOSLY, WHAT IS AN "AMERICAN HISTORY BOOK" USED IN AMERICAN PUBLIC SCHOOLS? iTS...IN YOUR WORDS..."OPINIONS
AS INFORMATION...WHAT? BASED ON FACTS!!!!

This authour, L. Neil Smith is a TRUE AMERICAN WRITER.
What makes him different than "History Book Writers"?
He tells the TRUTH WITH BRASS BALLS!
I invite you to his website, (that I saw after I posted eariler today)
He understands America, and what going on right now.
Let me introduce him to you GLPER'S
[link to www.lneilsmith.org]
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


Wht exactly are you trying to say?
.:*Buttercup*:. (OP)

User ID: 18380705
United States
01/18/2013 12:36 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
OP - 5 stars for speaking the truth. Most of us know this to be the truth and are sick of hearing the lies. God Bless you.

Lincoln should have been charged with genocide, had he lived, but I doubt he would have either way. You don't decimate an entire section of the country and not pay the consquences. My family have been in the North since we arrived here with the pilgrims - and it was even obvious to us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31645593


Calling someone names isnt 'truth'. I encourage you to check the definition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


check the definition of "mass murderer" and "war monger"
then get back to me if the definitions don't fit.
over 1,200,000 white, black, indian, soldiers killed-
not counting women and children.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 29184782
01/18/2013 12:43 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
Here is a bit more truth about Lincoln. Had slavery been the reason, or part of the reason for the civil war, the war wouldn't have happened.

Lincoln could have bought every slave in the South and North for $500,000,000.
The truth is that the North had slaves too. They were subjected to the worst of atrocities.
Lincoln and the banksters in the north saw the south as rich, financially and in natural resources already developed. They wanted control of it, which is their typical behavior.
In effect, Lincoln and the banksters behaved just the mafia always does. Do business with Vinny ( no offense to good guys named Vinny), or the boss will send in the slash and burn crew.

And to this day, they still do business the same way, matters not what country, race, gender, religious creed, or age.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29184782


ohyeah
thank you.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


You're welcome. My great great great uncle was General Robert E. Lee.
Happy to contribute.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 31453609
United States
01/18/2013 12:48 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
All true. Only released slaves to fuck over the south. He didnt care for their individual freedoms. And he was a gaylord
Brightwinger

User ID: 32360823
United States
01/18/2013 12:49 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
Umm, the South started the war by attacking a military fort for at least a day if not longer.

It's amazing how Lincoln bashers try to ignore that little act of war by the South.
Author, inventor, disorganizer. Let's disorganize the American Cancer Society.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 30474188
United States
01/18/2013 12:49 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
if the south had won, the nazis would have ended up winning WW II or the commies would have taken over. Only an united America would have been able to defeat them.

Those who preach state's rights and enslave millions should not be taken seriously. They deserve only devastation and if any of you think slavery was not that bad, come be my slave and find out,
.:*Buttercup*:. (OP)

User ID: 18380705
United States
01/18/2013 01:13 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!
I am truely distgusted by the undying hero worship of the horrible man, Abraham Lincoln. Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.

History tells us that Lincoln was a politically ambitious
lawyer who eagerly prostituted himself to northern industrialists who were unwilling to pay world prices for their raw materials and who, rather than practice real capitalism, enlisted BRUTE GOVERNMENT FORCE-"sell to us at our price or pay a fine that will put you out of business"
-for dealing with uncooperative southern suppliers. In support of this "noble principable", when southerners demonstrated what amounted to no more than token resistance,
Lincoln permitted an internal war to begin
THAT BUTCHERED MORE AMERICANS THAN ALL OF THIS COUNTRY'S WARS-BEFORE AND AFTERWARD-ROLLED INTO ONE.

Lincoln saw the introduction of TOTAL WAR on the American continent-INDESCRIMATE MASS SLAUGHTER AND DESTRUCTION WITHOUT REGARD TO AGE, GENDER,RACE,OR COMBAT STATUS OF THE VICTIMS- AND OVERSAW THE SYSTEMATIC SHELLING AND BURNING OF ENTIRE CITIES FOR STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL PURPOSES.
For the same purposes, Lincoln declared, LATE IN THE WAR,
that black slaves were now free in the south- where he had no juristiction-
WHILE DECLARING at the same time, somewhat more quietly but FOR THE RECORD nonetheless,
*that if MAINTAINING SLAVERY COULD HAVE WON THIS WAR FOR HIM, HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT INSTEAD!

I swear on the "Lincoln Bible" its time for the truth....

[link to www.sunray22b.net]
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


You quote a blog, really a blog of someone’s personal opinions as information based upon facts please get real and understand that we all have opinions and can blog but that does not constitute historical reality.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


SERIUOSLY, WHAT IS AN "AMERICAN HISTORY BOOK" USED IN AMERICAN PUBLIC SCHOOLS? iTS...IN YOUR WORDS..."OPINIONS
AS INFORMATION...WHAT? BASED ON FACTS!!!!

This authour, L. Neil Smith is a TRUE AMERICAN WRITER.
What makes him different than "History Book Writers"?
He tells the TRUTH WITH BRASS BALLS!
I invite you to his website, (that I saw after I posted eariler today)
He understands America, and what going on right now.
Let me introduce him to you GLPER'S
[link to www.lneilsmith.org]
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


Wht exactly are you trying to say?
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


just read it, if you disagree, i dont know what to say...

News








Proud Member Of The Angry Mob