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No More CandyCoated History! ABE LINCOLN WAS A WAR MONGER AND MASS MURDERER!

 
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I am truely distgusted by the undying hero worship of the horrible man, Abraham Lincoln. Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.

History tells us that Lincoln was a politically ambitious
lawyer who eagerly prostituted himself to northern industrialists who were unwilling to pay world prices for their raw materials and who, rather than practice real capitalism, enlisted BRUTE GOVERNMENT FORCE-"sell to us at our price or pay a fine that will put you out of business"
-for dealing with uncooperative southern suppliers. In support of this "noble principable", when southerners demonstrated what amounted to no more than token resistance,
Lincoln permitted an internal war to begin
THAT BUTCHERED MORE AMERICANS THAN ALL OF THIS COUNTRY'S WARS-BEFORE AND AFTERWARD-ROLLED INTO ONE.

Lincoln saw the introduction of TOTAL WAR on the American continent-INDESCRIMATE MASS SLAUGHTER AND DESTRUCTION WITHOUT REGARD TO AGE, GENDER,RACE,OR COMBAT STATUS OF THE VICTIMS- AND OVERSAW THE SYSTEMATIC SHELLING AND BURNING OF ENTIRE CITIES FOR STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL PURPOSES.
For the same purposes, Lincoln declared, LATE IN THE WAR,
that black slaves were now free in the south- where he had no juristiction-
WHILE DECLARING at the same time, somewhat more quietly but FOR THE RECORD nonetheless,
*that if MAINTAINING SLAVERY COULD HAVE WON THIS WAR FOR HIM, HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT INSTEAD!

I swear on the "Lincoln Bible" its time for the truth....

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 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


You are completely delusional I have nothing else to say.
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Liberia is one of only two modern countries in Sub-Saharan Africa without roots in the European colonization of Africa. Beginning in 1820, the region was colonized by blacks from the United States, most of whom were freed slaves. In 1847, this new country became the Republic of Liberia, establishing a government modeled on that of the United States and naming its capital city Monrovia after James Monroe, the fifth president of the United States and a prominent supporter of the colonization.
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Excellent post, OP. It's disheartening when you learn that Lincoln, who we were taught as kids growing up in the U.S. was a brilliant leader and a hero, was actually a traitor and a horrifically destructive force in American history.

Few people know that he didn't give a shit about the slaves, and used the Emancipation Proclamation solely as a war measure, to screw the South to the maximum. He actually never even remotely considered making blacks equal to whites in any way, be it socially or politically, and said he'd like to send all blacks to "some fertile country like Liberia, which they could have to themselves".

He had those who disagreed with his policies thrown in prison, without so much as a trial (it's well known he suspended Habeas corpus, in direct contravention to the Constitution). He bought newspapers and forced them to publish propaganda in support of his policies. He stumped for, and successfully ensured the passing of, the Morrill Tariff, which financially crippled the South. The Morrill Tariff was merely the final straw; there had been a series of very draconian tariffs for decades, imposed by the North on the South, and none of them had ANYTHING to do with slavery. The incredibly unjust tariffs were the main reason the South decided to secede from the Union.

But that wasn't acceptable, as far as Lincoln was concerned. In his inauguration speech, he basically threatened to attack the South if they refused to pay the tariff, though he was careful not to use those exact words. But the South had already decided, since the series of tariffs that had been imposed were unconstitutional, that the only option was secession.

A group of Southern states seceded, as was their right under the Constitution, but Lincoln decided that was unacceptable, AND ATTACKED THEM, starting what could only be called, "The War Against Southern Independence". In so doing, he gave a big, fat middle finger to the Constitution, slaughtered untold numbers of his countrymen, and ensured that, absolutely contrary to his most famous quote, that government of the people, by the people, and for the people absolutely DID perish from the Earth.

After Lincoln's horrific actions, the term "These United States" became "The United States". Instead of a group of States with like-minded goals and a shared ideology, who came together and agreed to peacefully coexist for the greater good, after the "Civil War" (a terrible misnomer of a name, by the way) what you had was a far more powerful and more centralized Federal government, which demonstrated that it no longer GAVE A SHIT what the individual states wanted. The states were no longer able to govern their affairs as they saw fit, with only minimal intrusion from the Federal government. Now you had a situation where, if any particular state or group of states decided that the Federal government no longer represented its interests and it decided to secede, the Federal government wouldn't hesitate to use its position of power and influence to ensure that THIS WAS NOT ALLOWED. Even if it had to start a war to enforce that power, it would.

Lincoln set us on the road to perdition we're suffering on today, the one with a tremendously powerful, willfully abusive Federal government that does, basically, whatever the fuck it wants, and states' rights are considered a silly anachronism by the uneducated public, who have been brainwashed by government schooling to believe that Lincoln "saved the Union". What a crock of horseshit!

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AWESOME POST ARGENTINA!

Thank you!
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Here is a bit more truth about Lincoln. Had slavery been the reason, or part of the reason for the civil war, the war wouldn't have happened.

Lincoln could have bought every slave in the South and North for $500,000,000.
The truth is that the North had slaves too. They were subjected to the worst of atrocities.
Lincoln and the banksters in the north saw the south as rich, financially and in natural resources already developed. They wanted control of it, which is their typical behavior.
In effect, Lincoln and the banksters behaved just the mafia always does. Do business with Vinny ( no offense to good guys named Vinny), or the boss will send in the slash and burn crew.

And to this day, they still do business the same way, matters not what country, race, gender, religious creed, or age.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29184782


ohyeah
thank you.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


You're welcome. My great great great uncle was General Robert E. Lee.
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wow my g-g-ggrandfather was Cheif John Ross(Cherokee Confederate Division) Maybe they knew each other!cheers
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He freed my people from blood sucking masons and, for that I love him.
 Quoting: Mad Pole


really? he "freed" your people?
your people couldn't vote/ have any civil rights
FOR 100 YEARS AFTER HE "FREED" YOU.
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


I couldn't of voted back then either because I don't have a weiner. What's your point?

 Quoting: Bornready 30099313

OK. Its way off topic, but I'll say it.
Ya it's a bummer that American women
couldn't vote till 1920.
Several European countries were way ahead us in giving women the right to vote, by several decades!
But Blacks couldn't vote till 45 YEARS AFTER THAT!
Blacks eventually got many exclusive rights, including affirmative action and equal pay.
Black and white, all races of AMERICAN WOMEN ARE STILL NOT GETTING EQUAL PAY in 2013.
our president currently has no blacks or women on his cabinet.
just sayin'
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He freed my people from blood sucking masons and, for that I love him.
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Did you also knoiw that Lincoln's plan was to send all the blacks back to Africa before he was shot? And that if by "freed" you mean when he said this?

""I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything."
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He freed my people from blood sucking masons and, for that I love him.
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lincoln did not care about the slaves. He just freed them so he could get more men too fight. The south was kicking lincoln's ass
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They don't call him butcher abe for nothing. And what Sherman did in the South would have been called war crimes today.
Idealism is a wonderful thing, as long as you have someone rational to put it to good use.
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They sold people lies , Jefferson Davis never surrendered the yank's arrested him for treason but never tried him because they were worried the jury would find that what he had done was constitutionally leagle .
were in occupied territory in the south.


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I am truely distgusted by the undying hero worship of the horrible man, Abraham Lincoln. Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.

History tells us that Lincoln was a politically ambitious
lawyer who eagerly prostituted himself to northern industrialists who were unwilling to pay world prices for their raw materials and who, rather than practice real capitalism, enlisted BRUTE GOVERNMENT FORCE-"sell to us at our price or pay a fine that will put you out of business"
-for dealing with uncooperative southern suppliers. In support of this "noble principable", when southerners demonstrated what amounted to no more than token resistance,
Lincoln permitted an internal war to begin
THAT BUTCHERED MORE AMERICANS THAN ALL OF THIS COUNTRY'S WARS-BEFORE AND AFTERWARD-ROLLED INTO ONE.

Lincoln saw the introduction of TOTAL WAR on the American continent-INDESCRIMATE MASS SLAUGHTER AND DESTRUCTION WITHOUT REGARD TO AGE, GENDER,RACE,OR COMBAT STATUS OF THE VICTIMS- AND OVERSAW THE SYSTEMATIC SHELLING AND BURNING OF ENTIRE CITIES FOR STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL PURPOSES.
For the same purposes, Lincoln declared, LATE IN THE WAR,
that black slaves were now free in the south- where he had no juristiction-
WHILE DECLARING at the same time, somewhat more quietly but FOR THE RECORD nonetheless,
*that if MAINTAINING SLAVERY COULD HAVE WON THIS WAR FOR HIM, HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT INSTEAD!

I swear on the "Lincoln Bible" its time for the truth....

[link to www.sunray22b.net]
 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.

WAAAAAAAAAAAh! WAAAAAAAAAAAAh! Go back to your chicken wings, homie. LOL
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South Carolina seceded first in 1861, after Lincoln became president.
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Lincoln was inaugurated in march 1861. Much of the South had seceded by then. You southrons are very deficient in history.
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Virginia, Arkansas, North Carolina and Tennessee all seceded after Lincoln was inaugurated. But Lincoln was elected on November 6th of 1860, before any southern states had seceded. So what exactly is your point? I don't know what a "southron" is though I assume it is meant to be derogatory. I am from the "South", and I am pretty sure this post is not deficient in its historical accuracy.
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South Carolina seceded first in 1861, after Lincoln became president.
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Lincoln was inaugurated in march 1861. Much of the South had seceded by then. You southrons are very deficient in history.
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you are a fucking idiot

[link to memory.loc.gov]

They succeeded because of Lincoln

and btw that war had nothing to do with Slaves...

My great great great great grandpa fought for the Confederacy... Years after the war his grand son asked him why he fought against the blacks...

He said...
"God damnnit, I didn't fight for no slaves. I fought to remove oppression and tyranny from all people. I didnt risk my life so some rich plantation owner in Georgia could sit on his ass and not lift his finger. I fought aside the Negroes. Fine soldiers the lot of them. Those sum bitches in Washington didnt give one damn about the dark folk, the poor folk or any folk. Shadow Puppets the whole of us were. It was a war started by greed and greed alone on both sides. I fought so my children could live without the pressures of greedy men"

Not much has changed has it?


btw its not Southrons
Its Southerners
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


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I have always been disgusted by the way Lincoln is idolized. My Great-Great-Great grandfather fought for the south in the Missouri Calvary. He was captured and imprisoned in the St Louis garrison until he died of pneumonia. The POW's of the north were kept in appalling conditions, and many died in captivity.

And at Gettysburg, Lincoln left the Confederates bodies to rot in the fields. Only the Union soldiers were given a proper burial. The Gettysburg address was to dedicate the Soldiers National Cemetery after the battle. ONLY UNION DEAD were allowed to be buried there. The confederate soldiers were literally left to rot in the fields.

This address, which we all were taught was so insightful and uniting for both sides was just another insult here is a portion of it:


"But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."


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Excellent post, OP. It's disheartening when you learn that Lincoln, who we were taught as kids growing up in the U.S. was a brilliant leader and a hero, was actually a traitor and a horrifically destructive force in American history.

Few people know that he didn't give a shit about the slaves, and used the Emancipation Proclamation solely as a war measure, to screw the South to the maximum. He actually never even remotely considered making blacks equal to whites in any way, be it socially or politically, and said he'd like to send all blacks to "some fertile country like Liberia, which they could have to themselves".

He had those who disagreed with his policies thrown in prison, without so much as a trial (it's well known he suspended Habeas corpus, in direct contravention to the Constitution). He bought newspapers and forced them to publish propaganda in support of his policies. He stumped for, and successfully ensured the passing of, the Morrill Tariff, which financially crippled the South. The Morrill Tariff was merely the final straw; there had been a series of very draconian tariffs for decades, imposed by the North on the South, and none of them had ANYTHING to do with slavery. The incredibly unjust tariffs were the main reason the South decided to secede from the Union.

But that wasn't acceptable, as far as Lincoln was concerned. In his inauguration speech, he basically threatened to attack the South if they refused to pay the tariff, though he was careful not to use those exact words. But the South had already decided, since the series of tariffs that had been imposed were unconstitutional, that the only option was secession.

A group of Southern states seceded, as was their right under the Constitution, but Lincoln decided that was unacceptable, AND ATTACKED THEM, starting what could only be called, "The War Against Southern Independence". In so doing, he gave a big, fat middle finger to the Constitution, slaughtered untold numbers of his countrymen, and ensured that, absolutely contrary to his most famous quote, that government of the people, by the people, and for the people absolutely DID perish from the Earth.

After Lincoln's horrific actions, the term "These United States" became "The United States". Instead of a group of States with like-minded goals and a shared ideology, who came together and agreed to peacefully coexist for the greater good, after the "Civil War" (a terrible misnomer of a name, by the way) what you had was a far more powerful and more centralized Federal government, which demonstrated that it no longer GAVE A SHIT what the individual states wanted. The states were no longer able to govern their affairs as they saw fit, with only minimal intrusion from the Federal government. Now you had a situation where, if any particular state or group of states decided that the Federal government no longer represented its interests and it decided to secede, the Federal government wouldn't hesitate to use its position of power and influence to ensure that THIS WAS NOT ALLOWED. Even if it had to start a war to enforce that power, it would.

Lincoln set us on the road to perdition we're suffering on today, the one with a tremendously powerful, willfully abusive Federal government that does, basically, whatever the fuck it wants, and states' rights are considered a silly anachronism by the uneducated public, who have been brainwashed by government schooling to believe that Lincoln "saved the Union". What a crock of horseshit!

rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32368412


Very good rant.
The civil war was a construct of the satanic banksters. It has always been their way to create wars and make obsene profits on peoples misery in the aftermath.

The british who were owned by the Rothschild Satanists did finance the south. The Russian czars were onto the Satanists and so did back the north. Russia did soon fall to the Satanists and were slaughtered to a tune of 60 million Russians as a result.

the satanic banksters got what they wanted after the civil war due to the debts incurred by the war. The 10 square miles of Washington DC was made a sovergn city state run by the banksters. Washington therefor joined the two other satanic owned cities of London and rome. From these thre cities they control the worlds spiritual financial and military.
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I am truely distgusted by the undying hero worship of the horrible man, Abraham Lincoln. Its time to realize what he really was, a war monger and mass murderer of Americans.

History tells us that Lincoln was a politically ambitious
lawyer who eagerly prostituted himself to northern industrialists who were unwilling to pay world prices for their raw materials and who, rather than practice real capitalism, enlisted BRUTE GOVERNMENT FORCE-"sell to us at our price or pay a fine that will put you out of business"
-for dealing with uncooperative southern suppliers. In support of this "noble principable", when southerners demonstrated what amounted to no more than token resistance,
Lincoln permitted an internal war to begin
THAT BUTCHERED MORE AMERICANS THAN ALL OF THIS COUNTRY'S WARS-BEFORE AND AFTERWARD-ROLLED INTO ONE.

Lincoln saw the introduction of TOTAL WAR on the American continent-INDESCRIMATE MASS SLAUGHTER AND DESTRUCTION WITHOUT REGARD TO AGE, GENDER,RACE,OR COMBAT STATUS OF THE VICTIMS- AND OVERSAW THE SYSTEMATIC SHELLING AND BURNING OF ENTIRE CITIES FOR STRATEGIC AND TACTICAL PURPOSES.
For the same purposes, Lincoln declared, LATE IN THE WAR,
that black slaves were now free in the south- where he had no juristiction-
WHILE DECLARING at the same time, somewhat more quietly but FOR THE RECORD nonetheless,
*that if MAINTAINING SLAVERY COULD HAVE WON THIS WAR FOR HIM, HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT INSTEAD!

I swear on the "Lincoln Bible" its time for the truth....

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 Quoting: .:*Buttercup*:.


This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read on here. And that's truly saying something.
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I'm a Illinois Yankee and you sir, are a piece of shit.
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I'm a Illinois Yankee and you sir, are a piece of shit.
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Three posts by mr. nice guy in which was said sweet fuk all.
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With all due respect your history is only candy coated within your country as you are fed this sort of nonsense propoganda from the day you are born.

Perhaps reading books might help instead of relying on american entertainment channels like "fox news" or Hollywood.

If you are "shocked" by the truth about lincoln, try reading up on the largest genocide our species has ever seen committed by the US federal government, and continuing today on the native american peoples, or the attempted genocide against the Philippines wiping out 10-15% of their population during the American-filipino war.

Perhaps then you would understand why your country is not; a great nation(yet); taken seriously when it sais it is the leader of the free world (if we wanted a leader it certainly would not be the united states, but we're quite happy having all nations being equal and living in global democracy - thanks all the same); is laughed at when it describes itself as home of the free.


Like any religious country you are bonkers, not trusted and not liked.
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Excellent post, OP. It's disheartening when you learn that Lincoln, who we were taught as kids growing up in the U.S. was a brilliant leader and a hero, was actually a traitor and a horrifically destructive force in American history.

Few people know that he didn't give a shit about the slaves, and used the Emancipation Proclamation solely as a war measure, to screw the South to the maximum. He actually never even remotely considered making blacks equal to whites in any way, be it socially or politically, and said he'd like to send all blacks to "some fertile country like Liberia, which they could have to themselves".

He had those who disagreed with his policies thrown in prison, without so much as a trial (it's well known he suspended Habeas corpus, in direct contravention to the Constitution). He bought newspapers and forced them to publish propaganda in support of his policies. He stumped for, and successfully ensured the passing of, the Morrill Tariff, which financially crippled the South. The Morrill Tariff was merely the final straw; there had been a series of very draconian tariffs for decades, imposed by the North on the South, and none of them had ANYTHING to do with slavery. The incredibly unjust tariffs were the main reason the South decided to secede from the Union.

But that wasn't acceptable, as far as Lincoln was concerned. In his inauguration speech, he basically threatened to attack the South if they refused to pay the tariff, though he was careful not to use those exact words. But the South had already decided, since the series of tariffs that had been imposed were unconstitutional, that the only option was secession.

A group of Southern states seceded, as was their right under the Constitution, but Lincoln decided that was unacceptable, AND ATTACKED THEM, starting what could only be called, "The War Against Southern Independence". In so doing, he gave a big, fat middle finger to the Constitution, slaughtered untold numbers of his countrymen, and ensured that, absolutely contrary to his most famous quote, that government of the people, by the people, and for the people absolutely DID perish from the Earth.

After Lincoln's horrific actions, the term "These United States" became "The United States". Instead of a group of States with like-minded goals and a shared ideology, who came together and agreed to peacefully coexist for the greater good, after the "Civil War" (a terrible misnomer of a name, by the way) what you had was a far more powerful and more centralized Federal government, which demonstrated that it no longer GAVE A SHIT what the individual states wanted. The states were no longer able to govern their affairs as they saw fit, with only minimal intrusion from the Federal government. Now you had a situation where, if any particular state or group of states decided that the Federal government no longer represented its interests and it decided to secede, the Federal government wouldn't hesitate to use its position of power and influence to ensure that THIS WAS NOT ALLOWED. Even if it had to start a war to enforce that power, it would.

Lincoln set us on the road to perdition we're suffering on today, the one with a tremendously powerful, willfully abusive Federal government that does, basically, whatever the fuck it wants, and states' rights are considered a silly anachronism by the uneducated public, who have been brainwashed by government schooling to believe that Lincoln "saved the Union". What a crock of horseshit!

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