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aoaw21

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The recombinant DNA is also used in the Gardisil shot. Over 100 girls die each month after getting that vaccine.

Wonder why.......
 Quoting: mopar28m


Really, where's the proof of that statement?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31741081


VAERS
 Quoting: mopar28m


You're making that figure up.


Gardasil was released in the June of 2006. Call it 78 months ago for ease of calculations.
So if there were "over 100 deaths per month from Gardasil that would mean that there have been over 78,000 deaths from it?
Is that correct?
Well it has to be as that's what you're saying.

Up until November 2012 there has been 24,000 adverse effects reported to VAERS.
Just so you understand what a reported adverse effect is; anything in the Reportable Events Table which happens to a patient within a certain time-period after a vaccination can be reported as an adverse effect. It doesn't mean that the vaccination actually caused it, just that it has been reported.
These can range from a mild headache to anaphylaxis. Naturally a death would also be reported.

Do you understand that?

Now lets look at the numbers again.
You say you got this figure of "over 100 per month" from VAERS. Really?
Just to reiterate, there have been 24,000 reported events (that figure is easily researchable in VAERS. It's even referenced on anti-vax sites) yet you say there has been over 78,000 DEATHS (which generally only form a minute percebtage of reported events). Now if we assume that your wildly incorrect figures are somehow not incorrect, if we were to add all of the other events in proportion we would probably be looking at over 1 million reported events.

That's not the correct figure is it?
You've made this all up yourself I think.

Either that or you really do need to do your research better.

(As a footnote VAERS is an incredibly poor source to try to combine vaccines with effects. As I mentioned above, events can be reported whether they're caused by the vaccine or not. Using VAERS for research like that is essentially dumpster diving. You never know what you're going to one day to the other).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31741081



I don't know if they are making the 100 deaths a month up.

I do know that your math is wrong and 78 x 100 = 7800.

It does not equal 78000.
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Never had a flu shot.

Never had the flu in my life.

Go figure.
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lol 'safe'. This I don't buy. Effective? Probably to make people sicker and compliant.

Odd at how they're using a virus to fight off the flu though. I don't trust that because I can see our immune systems being lowered more and it wouldn't just be insects that it affects but us as well.

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someone should check if this was made with the same mosaic virus used in GM production methods.
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Even though personally I cannot catch the flu, I still do not trust them. No scientific papers or Dr will change my mind.
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all they need is a "in-the-wild" virus with the spawn of a human mutation to reach a new desired mortality defacto standard. FYI, same concept with what happens when GM crops come in contact with other crops, cross-pollination mutations in non GM crops of different species.

GENETICALLY MODIFIED VACCINE BY BIOTECH COMPANY PROTEIN SCIENCES

[link to www.proteinsciences.com]

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BARDA began a partnership with Protein Sciences Corporation to reach the results we are seeing today: a new flu vaccine made with modern technology.

the key here is BARADA

because they also control The Division of Regulatory & Quality Affairs so they can approve any thing the want under the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)



thats right kids another goverment run biotech firm
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The recombinant DNA is also used in the Gardisil shot. Over 100 girls die each month after getting that vaccine.

Wonder why.......
 Quoting: mopar28m


Sure they do.
I suppose if you vaccinate 10 million girls a year with Gardisil and then record every death from whatever cause it may be 100 per month:
1200 per year/10000000 = 0.012% mortality rate.
Yeah, I believe that through car accidents, drowning, choking, leukemia and other medical causes, etc. that 0.012% of all little girls may die each year... but not from the vaccine. That is an anti-life, anti-vaccine lie.


I suppose you'd like to stop the production of human insulin via recombinant technology. We can all go back to using non-human matching pig insulin instead of an exact copy of human insulin produced by E. coli bacteria because a Luddites like you are so ignorant they don't know they're ignorant.


I can hear your war-cry - "Back to the Dark Ages!"


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Our nation has reached a landmark in influenza vaccine history with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s approval of a new seasonal flu vaccine, called Flublok, made with novel technology.

This method uses recombinant DNA and a modified baculovirus (a virus that infects insects) to produce a safe and effective human flu vaccine.

Story Here:

[link to www.whptv.com]
 Quoting: trailingedge


I won't get it, I'd rather die..

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The recombinant DNA is also used in the Gardisil shot. Over 100 girls die each month after getting that vaccine.

Wonder why.......
 Quoting: mopar28m


Really, where's the proof of that statement?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31741081


VAERS
 Quoting: mopar28m


You're making that figure up.


Gardasil was released in the June of 2006. Call it 78 months ago for ease of calculations.
So if there were "over 100 deaths per month from Gardasil that would mean that there have been over 78,000 deaths from it?
Is that correct?
Well it has to be as that's what you're saying.

Up until November 2012 there has been 24,000 adverse effects reported to VAERS.
Just so you understand what a reported adverse effect is; anything in the Reportable Events Table which happens to a patient within a certain time-period after a vaccination can be reported as an adverse effect. It doesn't mean that the vaccination actually caused it, just that it has been reported.
These can range from a mild headache to anaphylaxis. Naturally a death would also be reported.

Do you understand that?

Now lets look at the numbers again.
You say you got this figure of "over 100 per month" from VAERS. Really?
Just to reiterate, there have been 24,000 reported events (that figure is easily researchable in VAERS. It's even referenced on anti-vax sites) yet you say there has been over 78,000 DEATHS (which generally only form a minute percebtage of reported events). Now if we assume that your wildly incorrect figures are somehow not incorrect, if we were to add all of the other events in proportion we would probably be looking at over 1 million reported events.

That's not the correct figure is it?
You've made this all up yourself I think.

Either that or you really do need to do your research better.

(As a footnote VAERS is an incredibly poor source to try to combine vaccines with effects. As I mentioned above, events can be reported whether they're caused by the vaccine or not. Using VAERS for research like that is essentially dumpster diving. You never know what you're going to one day to the other).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31741081


An anti-vaccinationist lying? Colour me surprised.

She's not interested in facts and truth. She's interested in creating a world where millions of children die that do not die today...
I think it must be some sort of religion for her.

"Back to the Dark Ages!"


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NO THANKS

Not going to risk all that shit just to avoid the flu for a few weeks of my life.

Maybe when I'm older and immune system isn't as great.
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With proper nutrition and some supplement assistance...ad some high intensity exercise, the body wont need anything even with older age
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NO THANKS

Not going to risk all that shit just to avoid the flu for a few weeks of my life.

Maybe when I'm older and immune system isn't as great.
 Quoting: Astral Goat


With proper nutrition and some supplement assistance...ad some high intensity exercise, the body wont need anything even with older age
hf
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This is true peace
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Thanks :-)
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Our nation has reached a landmark in influenza vaccine history with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s approval of a new seasonal flu vaccine, called Flublok, made with novel technology.

This method uses recombinant DNA and a modified baculovirus (a virus that infects insects) to produce a safe and effective human flu vaccine.

Story Here:

[link to www.whptv.com]
 Quoting: trailingedge


and the goats and sheep and cows and mules and donkey's out there will lap this up like it is some kind of honey coated salt lick.

Foolish and dumb people.
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The recombinant DNA is also used in the Gardisil shot. Over 100 girls die each month after getting that vaccine.

Wonder why.......
 Quoting: mopar28m


100 girls are dying each month, where?

That is a lot of deaths, that vaccine came out about 10 years ago (roughly) which means that at 100 per month about 12,000 girls have died from that shot, is that correct?
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The recombinant DNA is also used in the Gardisil shot. Over 100 girls die each month after getting that vaccine.

Wonder why.......
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The recombinant DNA is also used in the Gardisil shot. Over 100 girls die each month after getting that vaccine.

Wonder why.......
 Quoting: mopar28m


Really, where's the proof of that statement?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31741081


VAERS
 Quoting: mopar28m


You're making that figure up.


Gardasil was released in the June of 2006. Call it 78 months ago for ease of calculations.
So if there were "over 100 deaths per month from Gardasil that would mean that there have been over 78,000 deaths from it?
Is that correct?
Well it has to be as that's what you're saying.

Up until November 2012 there has been 24,000 adverse effects reported to VAERS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31741081


Correct me if I'm wrong (LOL, ya right), but 78 multiplied by 100 is ... 7,800. And then you go off on this tirade about how stupid their claim is. Hmm. I'm guessing you're a liberal arts major.
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mmm more mercury and the latest n greatest antifreeze
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Actually if you go to the Flublok site they mention there are none of the usual adjuvants like thimerosol etc.

The only way to get out of this one is if you have an allergy to latex as the stopper is rubber.
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Oh...so they say there are none of the usual ones...that doesn't mean there aren't any "new" ones though.
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Being the only in my family that opted out of the flu shot, I am the proud owner with the flu right now.

The stuff sucks, and im definitely going to get the shot next year.
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The recombinant DNA is also used in the Gardisil shot. Over 100 girls die each month after getting that vaccine.

Wonder why.......
 Quoting: mopar28m


Really, where's the proof of that statement?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31741081


VAERS
 Quoting: mopar28m


You're making that figure up.


Gardasil was released in the June of 2006. Call it 78 months ago for ease of calculations.
So if there were "over 100 deaths per month from Gardasil that would mean that there have been over 78,000 deaths from it?
Is that correct?
Well it has to be as that's what you're saying.

Up until November 2012 there has been 24,000 adverse effects reported to VAERS.
Just so you understand what a reported adverse effect is; anything in the Reportable Events Table which happens to a patient within a certain time-period after a vaccination can be reported as an adverse effect. It doesn't mean that the vaccination actually caused it, just that it has been reported.
These can range from a mild headache to anaphylaxis. Naturally a death would also be reported.

Do you understand that?

Now lets look at the numbers again.
You say you got this figure of "over 100 per month" from VAERS. Really?
Just to reiterate, there have been 24,000 reported events (that figure is easily researchable in VAERS. It's even referenced on anti-vax sites) yet you say there has been over 78,000 DEATHS (which generally only form a minute percebtage of reported events). Now if we assume that your wildly incorrect figures are somehow not incorrect, if we were to add all of the other events in proportion we would probably be looking at over 1 million reported events.

That's not the correct figure is it?
You've made this all up yourself I think.

Either that or you really do need to do your research better.

(As a footnote VAERS is an incredibly poor source to try to combine vaccines with effects. As I mentioned above, events can be reported whether they're caused by the vaccine or not. Using VAERS for research like that is essentially dumpster diving. You never know what you're going to one day to the other).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31741081


Why are you so sensitive about all these, especially the numbers. What's in it for you? Just for the sake of algebra? Well, the other guy proved you wrong 78 x 100 = 7800... by the way, this is third grade algebra.

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Being the only in my family that opted out of the flu shot, I am the proud owner with the flu right now.

The stuff sucks, and im definitely going to get the shot next year.
 Quoting: Mad Pole


shill
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Really, where's the proof of that statement?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31741081


VAERS
 Quoting: mopar28m


You're making that figure up.


Gardasil was released in the June of 2006. Call it 78 months ago for ease of calculations.
So if there were "over 100 deaths per month from Gardasil that would mean that there have been over 78,000 deaths from it?
Is that correct?
Well it has to be as that's what you're saying.

Up until November 2012 there has been 24,000 adverse effects reported to VAERS.
Just so you understand what a reported adverse effect is; anything in the Reportable Events Table which happens to a patient within a certain time-period after a vaccination can be reported as an adverse effect. It doesn't mean that the vaccination actually caused it, just that it has been reported.
These can range from a mild headache to anaphylaxis. Naturally a death would also be reported.

Do you understand that?

Now lets look at the numbers again.
You say you got this figure of "over 100 per month" from VAERS. Really?
Just to reiterate, there have been 24,000 reported events (that figure is easily researchable in VAERS. It's even referenced on anti-vax sites) yet you say there has been over 78,000 DEATHS (which generally only form a minute percebtage of reported events). Now if we assume that your wildly incorrect figures are somehow not incorrect, if we were to add all of the other events in proportion we would probably be looking at over 1 million reported events.

That's not the correct figure is it?
You've made this all up yourself I think.

Either that or you really do need to do your research better.

(As a footnote VAERS is an incredibly poor source to try to combine vaccines with effects. As I mentioned above, events can be reported whether they're caused by the vaccine or not. Using VAERS for research like that is essentially dumpster diving. You never know what you're going to one day to the other).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31741081



I don't know if they are making the 100 deaths a month up.

I do know that your math is wrong and 78 x 100 = 7800.

It does not equal 78000.
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The recombinant DNA is also used in the Gardisil shot. Over 100 girls die each month after getting that vaccine.

Wonder why.......
 Quoting: mopar28m


Really, where's the proof of that statement?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31741081


VAERS
 Quoting: mopar28m


You're making that figure up.


Gardasil was released in the June of 2006. Call it 78 months ago for ease of calculations.
So if there were "over 100 deaths per month from Gardasil that would mean that there have been over 78,000 deaths from it?
Is that correct?
Well it has to be as that's what you're saying.

Up until November 2012 there has been 24,000 adverse effects reported to VAERS.
Just so you understand what a reported adverse effect is; anything in the Reportable Events Table which happens to a patient within a certain time-period after a vaccination can be reported as an adverse effect. It doesn't mean that the vaccination actually caused it, just that it has been reported.
These can range from a mild headache to anaphylaxis. Naturally a death would also be reported.

Do you understand that?

Now lets look at the numbers again.
You say you got this figure of "over 100 per month" from VAERS. Really?
Just to reiterate, there have been 24,000 reported events (that figure is easily researchable in VAERS. It's even referenced on anti-vax sites) yet you say there has been over 78,000 DEATHS (which generally only form a minute percebtage of reported events). Now if we assume that your wildly incorrect figures are somehow not incorrect, if we were to add all of the other events in proportion we would probably be looking at over 1 million reported events.

That's not the correct figure is it?
You've made this all up yourself I think.

Either that or you really do need to do your research better.

(As a footnote VAERS is an incredibly poor source to try to combine vaccines with effects. As I mentioned above, events can be reported whether they're caused by the vaccine or not. Using VAERS for research like that is essentially dumpster diving. You never know what you're going to one day to the other).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31741081


Mopar has been at the forefront of the anti vaccine movement here at GLP, for years, and is rather proud of that fact. She has influenced a great many people into not taking vaccines..........And has always rather aggressively defended her position, which means personal attacks when a differing opinion is voiced. Ie the poster with a differing opinion will have their integrity impugned with accusations if "troll, shill" for big pharma .... And all that.

Personally I wouldn't want to have any deaths on my conscience just because I ran a prolonged campaign on the evils of vaccines, so forcefully people didn't consider the other side of things.

My view is that people should consider all aspects.
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NO THANKS

Not going to risk all that shit just to avoid the flu for a few weeks of my life.

Maybe when I'm older and immune system isn't as great.
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With proper nutrition and some supplement assistance...ad some high intensity exercise, the body wont need anything even with older age
hf
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Very true. I'm 61, exercise every day, take supplements and have a healthy diet. I rarely get sick.
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Vaccines are one of this country's darkest secrets.. Research military vaccinations from 1918-2000 specifically typhoid fever. We created that epidemic, and most others.
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Oh so typhoid never existed before?

Typhoid and cholera were amongst the big killers of history going way back before 1918, before vaccines were dreamt of ..... How does your post make sense?
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Constantly "protecting' yourself from getting sick makes your immune system weak. I've never had a flu shot and I've had the flu once, maybe twice in my life.

It's been found that kids that grow up on farms and are exposed to all type of animal pathogens have far superior immune response as adults compared to city kids. Let nature do what it's supposed to.
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I wonder if one of these days a virus will just "happen" along that will "punish" all of us who don't get the flu shot. What better way to force compliance?
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MORE BS from the 'down under' crazies !

FACTS are more important than promises !

FACT IS ..... JUST AND MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD THE SHOT GET THE FLU AS THOSE WHO HAVEN'T !

ARGUE THAT AWAY, a-Hole !
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MORE BS from the 'down under' crazies !

FACTS are more important than promises !

FACT IS ..... JUST AND MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD THE SHOT GET THE FLU AS THOSE WHO HAVEN'T !

ARGUE THAT AWAY, a-Hole !
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Is this a joke? Only stupid people who watch the fake news inject new world order poisons into their blood! Wake up OP
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Haven't had the flu shot in 20 YEARS and HAVEN'T gotten it EITHER !

Stick your flu shot where the SUN DON'T SHINE !

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