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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24909641 01/18/2013 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They don't need to put that much effort into creating "bio weapons", all they need to do is stop preventing the super killers of the past. Imagine when mother natures little killers get a free hand.... TB, Cholera, Typhoid, Plague, Yellow fever, Malaria, Polio, Small Pox, gonorrhoea, syphilis, influenza, pneumonia etc. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27526740 01/18/2013 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're making that figure up. Gardasil was released in the June of 2006. Call it 78 months ago for ease of calculations. So if there were "over 100 deaths per month from Gardasil that would mean that there have been over 78,000 deaths from it? Is that correct? Well it has to be as that's what you're saying. Up until November 2012 there has been 24,000 adverse effects reported to VAERS. Just so you understand what a reported adverse effect is; anything in the Reportable Events Table which happens to a patient within a certain time-period after a vaccination can be reported as an adverse effect. It doesn't mean that the vaccination actually caused it, just that it has been reported. These can range from a mild headache to anaphylaxis. Naturally a death would also be reported. Do you understand that? Now lets look at the numbers again. You say you got this figure of "over 100 per month" from VAERS. Really? Just to reiterate, there have been 24,000 reported events (that figure is easily researchable in VAERS. It's even referenced on anti-vax sites) yet you say there has been over 78,000 DEATHS (which generally only form a minute percebtage of reported events). Now if we assume that your wildly incorrect figures are somehow not incorrect, if we were to add all of the other events in proportion we would probably be looking at over 1 million reported events. That's not the correct figure is it? You've made this all up yourself I think. Either that or you really do need to do your research better. (As a footnote VAERS is an incredibly poor source to try to combine vaccines with effects. As I mentioned above, events can be reported whether they're caused by the vaccine or not. Using VAERS for research like that is essentially dumpster diving. You never know what you're going to one day to the other). Why are you so sensitive about all these, especially the numbers. What's in it for you? Just for the sake of algebra? Well, the other guy proved you wrong 78 x 100 = 7800... by the way, this is third grade algebra. . You use the word "algebra" twice here, but do you actually understand what algebra is? I'll give you a hint: 100 x 78 = 7800 is not an algebraic equation. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31897366 01/18/2013 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the FDA 'approved it', then we KNOW Big Pharma paid them OFF ! Between making billions of dollars on FALSE CLAIMS/DEADLY Vaccines, the NWO are laughing all the way to your cemetery ! Want to reduce family size ? GET Vaccines ! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24909641 01/18/2013 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Constantly "protecting' yourself from getting sick makes your immune system weak. I've never had a flu shot and I've had the flu once, maybe twice in my life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30688956 It's been found that kids that grow up on farms and are exposed to all type of animal pathogens have far superior immune response as adults compared to city kids. Let nature do what it's supposed to. See that is an interesting statement right there. In the past it was the city dwellers who had better immune systems because they lived in such close proximity to everyone else, so much so that a whole new blood group emerged (I think it was B, but I could be wrong), and this blood group conferred additional immune protection. |
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| LightOfZen User ID: 19392730 01/18/2013 08:32 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a two fold operation. Keep as many of the working age from getting sick (or the mental "I'm not sick! I got the flu shot) and keep the sheep working. Also it's to kill off the elderly who no longer contribute to society, whos immune system can not handle it any longer. Just how I see it. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32000830 01/18/2013 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a two fold operation. Keep as many of the working age from getting sick (or the mental "I'm not sick! I got the flu shot) and keep the sheep working. Also it's to kill off the elderly who no longer contribute to society, whos immune system can not handle it any longer. Just how I see it. Quoting: LightOfZen |
| emerald_glow User ID: 31028625 01/18/2013 08:42 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's no mercury in it. It doesn't contain any adjuvants at all. You've just completely dismissed it without actually looking into it haven't you? It is not just those harmful ingreadients, AC. They lied for many years to us... How do you know they won't lie again???? Once the TRUST is gone, no one can convince us to vaccinate. Last Edited by emerald_glow on 01/18/2013 08:43 PM |
| zenobiaphobia Dancing to the beat of a skinless drum User ID: 22736306 01/18/2013 09:06 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | maybe the modified baculovirus will recombine my DNA and turn me into spiderman! YEAH! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25898128 ![]() More likely we will all end up serving The Insect God Books relevant to our current situation will appear here at random: [link to archive.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16213681 01/18/2013 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The recombinant DNA is also used in the Gardisil shot. Over 100 girls die each month after getting that vaccine. Quoting: mopar28m Wonder why....... You've got that right, mopar. Sad moment out and about I met a little gal of 22 who could have been my daughter. Our conversation brought to her telling me she is afraid she could be sterile. Her doc hit her with Guardasil while her mother was in waiting room, and no consult whatsoever. Ambused without warning. Now she fears her option of having children of her own are gone, taken from her. :( They can have their "landmark" and give it to their own to show us whether or not their family line dies out efficiently. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1034800 01/18/2013 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not trust the pharmaceutical industry and never will. I will never get the flu shot ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever no matter what. Dr. John Rengen Virapen, former Eli Lilly & Co executive who after 35 years of service decided to quit and became a whistleblower [link to www.youtube.com] Jane Burgermeister on youtube Just google pharmaceutical "whistle blower" and you'll have more than enough damning evidence against this industry [link to pharmaceuticalwhistleblowers.blogspot.com] [link to www.secwhistleblowerprogram.org] [link to articles.philly.com] [link to pharmaceutical-kickbacks.com] [link to www.fiercepharma.com] Just google pharmaceutical "whistle blower" and you'll have more than enough damning evidence against this industry |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32118197 01/18/2013 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The recombinant DNA is also used in the Gardisil shot. Over 100 girls die each month after getting that vaccine. Quoting: mopar28m Wonder why....... Really, where's the proof of that statement? VAERS You're making that figure up. Gardasil was released in the June of 2006. Call it 78 months ago for ease of calculations. So if there were "over 100 deaths per month from Gardasil that would mean that there have been over 78,000 deaths from it? Is that correct? Well it has to be as that's what you're saying. Up until November 2012 there has been 24,000 adverse effects reported to VAERS. Just so you understand what a reported adverse effect is; anything in the Reportable Events Table which happens to a patient within a certain time-period after a vaccination can be reported as an adverse effect. It doesn't mean that the vaccination actually caused it, just that it has been reported. These can range from a mild headache to anaphylaxis. Naturally a death would also be reported. Do you understand that? Now lets look at the numbers again. You say you got this figure of "over 100 per month" from VAERS. Really? Just to reiterate, there have been 24,000 reported events (that figure is easily researchable in VAERS. It's even referenced on anti-vax sites) yet you say there has been over 78,000 DEATHS (which generally only form a minute percebtage of reported events). Now if we assume that your wildly incorrect figures are somehow not incorrect, if we were to add all of the other events in proportion we would probably be looking at over 1 million reported events. That's not the correct figure is it? You've made this all up yourself I think. Either that or you really do need to do your research better. (As a footnote VAERS is an incredibly poor source to try to combine vaccines with effects. As I mentioned above, events can be reported whether they're caused by the vaccine or not. Using VAERS for research like that is essentially dumpster diving. You never know what you're going to one day to the other). last time i checked 78*100 was 7,800 not 78,000 ![]() |
| SilverPatriot User ID: 10518597 01/18/2013 09:55 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The use of DNA material in inoculations is as potentially damaging as using Tumor and Virus cells in mass produced inoculations. All linger within the human body and what will the damage to our bodies be years from now will the Tumor and Virus cells activate to bringing diseases, and what is the health status of those embryonic stem cells where they leech DNA for these new Frankenvaccines? Interview Reveals DNA Fragments Discovered 6 Months After Vaccination “Using Dr. Lee’s new methods, PCR can detect HPV L1 gene DNA bound to nanoparticles; it can detect HPV L1 gene DNA of vaccine origin present in human blood and tissue samples.” [link to vactruth.com] Investigating Viruses in Cells Used to Make Vaccines; and Evaluating the Potential Threat Posed by Transmission of Viruses to Humans [link to www.fda.gov] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32000830 01/18/2013 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The use of DNA material in inoculations is as potentially damaging as using Tumor and Virus cells in mass produced inoculations. All linger within the human body and what will the damage to our bodies be years from now will the Tumor and Virus cells activate to bringing diseases, and what is the health status of those embryonic stem cells where they leech DNA for these new Frankenvaccines? Quoting: SilverPatriot Interview Reveals DNA Fragments Discovered 6 Months After Vaccination “Using Dr. Lee’s new methods, PCR can detect HPV L1 gene DNA bound to nanoparticles; it can detect HPV L1 gene DNA of vaccine origin present in human blood and tissue samples.” [link to vactruth.com] Investigating Viruses in Cells Used to Make Vaccines; and Evaluating the Potential Threat Posed by Transmission of Viruses to Humans [link to www.fda.gov] |
| SilverPatriot User ID: 10518597 01/18/2013 10:21 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The use of DNA material in inoculations is as potentially damaging as using Tumor and Virus cells in mass produced inoculations. All linger within the human body and what will the damage to our bodies be years from now will the Tumor and Virus cells activate to bringing diseases, and what is the health status of those embryonic stem cells where they leech DNA for these new Frankenvaccines? Quoting: SilverPatriot Interview Reveals DNA Fragments Discovered 6 Months After Vaccination “Using Dr. Lee’s new methods, PCR can detect HPV L1 gene DNA bound to nanoparticles; it can detect HPV L1 gene DNA of vaccine origin present in human blood and tissue samples.” [link to vactruth.com] Investigating Viruses in Cells Used to Make Vaccines; and Evaluating the Potential Threat Posed by Transmission of Viruses to Humans [link to www.fda.gov] Experimentation perhaps or a genuine lack of concern for the population the second link is from the FDA who is finally researching the use of viruses and tumor cells in vaccines. Why would the CDC rush these untested methods of creating vaccines cannot be answered definitively by myself however their untested solutions is unnerving to me. Quote: Virus-based vaccines are made in living cells (cell substrates). Some manufacturers are investigating the use of new cell lines to make vaccines. The continual growth of cell lines ensures that there is a consistent supply of the same cells that can yield high quantities of the vaccine. In some cases the cell lines that are used might be tumorigenic, that is, they form tumors when injected into rodents. Some of these tumor-forming cell lines may contain cancer-causing viruses that are not actively reproducing. Such viruses are hard to detect using standard methods. These latent, or "quiet," viruses pose a potential threat, since they might become active under vaccine manufacturing conditions. Therefore, to ensure the safety of vaccines, our laboratory is investigating ways to activate latent viruses in cell lines and to detect the activated viruses, as well as other unknown viruses, using new technologies. We will then adapt our findings to detect viruses in the same types of cell substrates that are used to produce vaccines. We are also trying to identify specific biological processes that reflect virus activity. Investigating Viruses in Cells Used to Make Vaccines; and Evaluating the Potential Threat Posed by Transmission of Viruses to Humans [link to www.fda.gov] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32551740 01/18/2013 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The recombinant DNA is also used in the Gardisil shot. Over 100 girls die each month after getting that vaccine. Quoting: mopar28m Wonder why....... Really, where's the proof of that statement? VAERS You're making that figure up. Gardasil was released in the June of 2006. Call it 78 months ago for ease of calculations. So if there were "over 100 deaths per month from Gardasil that would mean that there have been over 78,000 deaths from it? Is that correct? Well it has to be as that's what you're saying. Up until November 2012 there has been 24,000 adverse effects reported to VAERS. Just so you understand what a reported adverse effect is; anything in the Reportable Events Table which happens to a patient within a certain time-period after a vaccination can be reported as an adverse effect. It doesn't mean that the vaccination actually caused it, just that it has been reported. These can range from a mild headache to anaphylaxis. Naturally a death would also be reported. Do you understand that? Now lets look at the numbers again. You say you got this figure of "over 100 per month" from VAERS. Really? Just to reiterate, there have been 24,000 reported events (that figure is easily researchable in VAERS. It's even referenced on anti-vax sites) yet you say there has been over 78,000 DEATHS (which generally only form a minute percebtage of reported events). Now if we assume that your wildly incorrect figures are somehow not incorrect, if we were to add all of the other events in proportion we would probably be looking at over 1 million reported events. That's not the correct figure is it? You've made this all up yourself I think. Either that or you really do need to do your research better. (As a footnote VAERS is an incredibly poor source to try to combine vaccines with effects. As I mentioned above, events can be reported whether they're caused by the vaccine or not. Using VAERS for research like that is essentially dumpster diving. You never know what you're going to one day to the other). Especially considering that the cdc claims themselves that only 10% of adverse events including death are actually reported to vaers. Of the very few investigations that have been done on vaers it shows that doctors only report 3% of adverse events including death. But doctors wouldn't, not report a death for a vaccine that they injected if it happened to kill someone a week later would they? It's not like they would blame it on something else to cover themselves from litigation. Well, I mean if they weren't protected already by the government. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32000830 01/18/2013 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The use of DNA material in inoculations is as potentially damaging as using Tumor and Virus cells in mass produced inoculations. All linger within the human body and what will the damage to our bodies be years from now will the Tumor and Virus cells activate to bringing diseases, and what is the health status of those embryonic stem cells where they leech DNA for these new Frankenvaccines? Quoting: SilverPatriot Interview Reveals DNA Fragments Discovered 6 Months After Vaccination “Using Dr. Lee’s new methods, PCR can detect HPV L1 gene DNA bound to nanoparticles; it can detect HPV L1 gene DNA of vaccine origin present in human blood and tissue samples.” [link to vactruth.com] Investigating Viruses in Cells Used to Make Vaccines; and Evaluating the Potential Threat Posed by Transmission of Viruses to Humans [link to www.fda.gov] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32000830 01/18/2013 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The use of DNA material in inoculations is as potentially damaging as using Tumor and Virus cells in mass produced inoculations. All linger within the human body and what will the damage to our bodies be years from now will the Tumor and Virus cells activate to bringing diseases, and what is the health status of those embryonic stem cells where they leech DNA for these new Frankenvaccines? Quoting: SilverPatriot Interview Reveals DNA Fragments Discovered 6 Months After Vaccination “Using Dr. Lee’s new methods, PCR can detect HPV L1 gene DNA bound to nanoparticles; it can detect HPV L1 gene DNA of vaccine origin present in human blood and tissue samples.” [link to vactruth.com] Investigating Viruses in Cells Used to Make Vaccines; and Evaluating the Potential Threat Posed by Transmission of Viruses to Humans [link to www.fda.gov] |
| mopar28m Lev. 23:15-22 User ID: 14265444 01/18/2013 11:35 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Especially considering that the cdc claims themselves that only 10% of adverse events including death are actually reported to vaers. Of the very few investigations that have been done on vaers it shows that doctors only report 3% of adverse events including death. But doctors wouldn't, not report a death for a vaccine that they injected if it happened to kill someone a week later would they? It's not like they would blame it on something else to cover themselves from litigation. Well, I mean if they weren't protected already by the government. Doctors & CDC have to protect the vaccine program (or hoax I should say) one way or another. Of course, they aren't going to report every single reaction. Leslie is the person in the know about the Gardisil Cervarix shot. [link to holyhormones.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24909641 01/19/2013 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This vaccine can be made without eggs! No magic formula. They still can't predict the strains. We need to ask ourselves why they are trying so hard for us to get them! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32000830 The reason they are pushing the vaccine is to stop you getting sick in the first place, because they can't treat you after you get sick as the antibiotics aren't working against the secondary infections. They freely admit that any given season there are multiple strains of the flu out there and they have to make an educated guess about what strains will be most prevalent. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24909641 01/19/2013 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's no mercury in it. It doesn't contain any adjuvants at all. You've just completely dismissed it without actually looking into it haven't you? It is not just those harmful ingreadients, AC. They lied for many years to us... How do you know they won't lie again???? Once the TRUST is gone, no one can convince us to vaccinate. Well I really don't think you will have to worry for much longer, vaccines aren't being developed in the way they once were. There are legions of people like Mopar who have been crusading against vaccines for ages and the big pharmaceutical companies are developing other things instead ... Not enough money in vaccines and certainly not worth the hassle. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24909641 01/19/2013 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The use of DNA material in inoculations is as potentially damaging as using Tumor and Virus cells in mass produced inoculations. All linger within the human body and what will the damage to our bodies be years from now will the Tumor and Virus cells activate to bringing diseases, and what is the health status of those embryonic stem cells where they leech DNA for these new Frankenvaccines? Quoting: SilverPatriot Interview Reveals DNA Fragments Discovered 6 Months After Vaccination “Using Dr. Lee’s new methods, PCR can detect HPV L1 gene DNA bound to nanoparticles; it can detect HPV L1 gene DNA of vaccine origin present in human blood and tissue samples.” [link to vactruth.com] Investigating Viruses in Cells Used to Make Vaccines; and Evaluating the Potential Threat Posed by Transmission of Viruses to Humans [link to www.fda.gov] Oh dear! |