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**THE CITADEL** The quintessential BUGOUT solution for liberty-minded patriots to be tentatively located in N. Idaho.

 
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**THE CITADEL** The quintessential BUGOUT solution for liberty-minded patriots to be tentatively located in N. Idaho.
I stumbled across this information and am not sure what to make of it as yet, but their website seems very legit and from what I can tell, very informative. Here's a brief description, but I encourage you to view the site:

THE CITADEL

The Citadel is evolving as a planned community where residents are bound together by:

•Patriotism
•Pride in American Exceptionalism
•Our proud history of Liberty as defined by our Founding Fathers, and
•Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes — such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina — or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.
The Citadel is not your typical planned community where the developer's objective is selling cookie-cutter homes at the highest possible profit-margin.

The Citadel is not profit-driven. The Citadel is Liberty-driven: specifically Thomas Jefferson's Rightful Liberty.

Marxists, Socialists, Liberals and Establishment Republicans will likely find that life in our community is incompatible with their existing ideology and preferred lifestyles.

DESCRIPTION: The Citadel Community will house between 3,500 and 7,000 patriotic American families who agree that being prepared for the emergencies of life and being proficient with the American icon of Liberty — the Rifle — are prudent measures. There will be no HOA. There will be no recycling police and no local ordinance enforcers from City Hall.

LOCATION: We are in the process of selecting the ideal location among the beautiful mountains of Idaho in the American Redoubt...

See their website here:
[link to iiicitadel.com]

Last Edited by UseLessRepEATER on 01/18/2013 01:47 AM
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Citadel: Location
Our first choice for the location of the Citadel is Benewah County, Idaho. We are confident that the county is an ideal fit offering low population density and, importantly, a shared world-view with most of its Liberty-minded residents: independence, self-sufficiency, and patriotism.

The job opportunities and array of industries that will come with our Citadel project should be sufficient to put the entire county to work thereby eliminating unemployment and reducing the existing double-digit poverty level to zero.

The county is spectacularly beautiful and perfectly suited for our project goals. In fact, the Citadel has already purchased 20 acres atop a mountain in Benewah County that we call our Beachhead, and is considering a larger contiguous purchase. On our beachhead we intend to build a Showcase for the Citadel, complete with a scaled Curtain Wall, condos, houses, the initial factory for III Arms Company, and more. The Beachhead will serve much the same purpose as Model Homes in a community of new homes in any suburb! It is our hope that the residents of Benewah County will quickly learn that our intent is to be an asset to their lives, not an intrusion...

LINK to MAP LOCATION: [link to iiicitadel.blogspot.com]

[link to iiicitadel.com]

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~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

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the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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Citadel Features:
III Arms Factory
Curtain Walls & Towers, Main Gate
John Parker Town Green
Town Hall
Community Armory
Citadel Firearms Museum
Town Center - Retail/Commercial
Farmer's Market
Medical Center
Retirement Facility
Citadel Schools/Boarding School
Library
Tourist Visitor Center
Houses/Townhomes/Condos
Canals/Lake/Ponds
Firearms/Archery Ranges
Sports Fields
Hotel
III Bank
Churches
Power/Biomass/Water Plant
Underground Shelter
Post Office
Fire House
Stockade/Jail
Grounds Building
Walking Trails
Orchards/Gardens/Parks
Outdoor Pavilions/Amphitheatre
Command & Control Center
Media Center
Airstrip/Helipad
Shuttle System/Parking Center
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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kerodin seems legit,
but it's not my style to live behind a wall.
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"Citadel." Convicted extortionist's latest con gets huge play on Drudge.

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yeah, so no
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kerodin seems legit,
but it's not my style to live behind a wall.
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I believe there is an option to live o/s the wall if you go to the calculator section to find your estimated cost.
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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"Citadel." Convicted extortionist's latest con gets huge play on Drudge.

[link to sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com]


yeah, so no
 Quoting: Ima Pseudonym


I wasn't aware of this, but the reason I posted this was to get input good and bad from those having intel on this concept. I literally just stumbled onto this site this evening.
Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies
~U.R.~

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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"Citadel." Convicted extortionist's latest con gets huge play on Drudge.

[link to sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com]


yeah, so no
 Quoting: Ima Pseudonym


I wasn't aware of this, but the reason I posted this was to get input good and bad from those having intel on this concept. I literally just stumbled onto this site this evening.
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER


yep. saw this the other day and found that in my research.

interesting concept tho
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why is there a bank? why does there need to be a bank?
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why is there a bank? why does there need to be a bank?
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The FAQ section didn't address this as I had the same question. I would assume that it would be a private/independent bank with some type of gold/silver backed currency, though I am just postulating.
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We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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intriguing, as are the floating city ideas.
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

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I stumbled across this information and am not sure what to make of it as yet, but their website seems very legit and from what I can tell, very informative. Here's a brief description, but I encourage you to view the site:

THE CITADEL

The Citadel is evolving as a planned community where residents are bound together by:

•Patriotism
•Pride in American Exceptionalism
•Our proud history of Liberty as defined by our Founding Fathers, and
•Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes — such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina — or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.
The Citadel is not your typical planned community where the developer's objective is selling cookie-cutter homes at the highest possible profit-margin.

The Citadel is not profit-driven. The Citadel is Liberty-driven: specifically Thomas Jefferson's Rightful Liberty.

Marxists, Socialists, Liberals and Establishment Republicans will likely find that life in our community is incompatible with their existing ideology and preferred lifestyles.

DESCRIPTION: The Citadel Community will house between 3,500 and 7,000 patriotic American families who agree that being prepared for the emergencies of life and being proficient with the American icon of Liberty — the Rifle — are prudent measures. There will be no HOA. There will be no recycling police and no local ordinance enforcers from City Hall.

LOCATION: We are in the process of selecting the ideal location among the beautiful mountains of Idaho in the American Redoubt...

See their website here:
[link to iiicitadel.com]
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER




The evil regime will just bomb them into oblivion...won't even bother trying to invade or imprison--just completely reduce their fortress to rubble. No one will be left alive there. Not a good solution
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intriguing, as are the floating city ideas.
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I agree, though I'd prefer terra firma myself. I do see one obvious flaw to this place since I presume TPTB won't be happy about this place should it ever come to fruition: attacks by an organized military, especially by air assault. Heck, a well placed drone-based missile would wreak havoc.
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~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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I stumbled across this information and am not sure what to make of it as yet, but their website seems very legit and from what I can tell, very informative. Here's a brief description, but I encourage you to view the site:

THE CITADEL

The Citadel is evolving as a planned community where residents are bound together by:

•Patriotism
•Pride in American Exceptionalism
•Our proud history of Liberty as defined by our Founding Fathers, and
•Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes — such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina — or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.
The Citadel is not your typical planned community where the developer's objective is selling cookie-cutter homes at the highest possible profit-margin.

The Citadel is not profit-driven. The Citadel is Liberty-driven: specifically Thomas Jefferson's Rightful Liberty.

Marxists, Socialists, Liberals and Establishment Republicans will likely find that life in our community is incompatible with their existing ideology and preferred lifestyles.

DESCRIPTION: The Citadel Community will house between 3,500 and 7,000 patriotic American families who agree that being prepared for the emergencies of life and being proficient with the American icon of Liberty — the Rifle — are prudent measures. There will be no HOA. There will be no recycling police and no local ordinance enforcers from City Hall.

LOCATION: We are in the process of selecting the ideal location among the beautiful mountains of Idaho in the American Redoubt...

See their website here:
[link to iiicitadel.com]
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER




The evil regime will just bomb them into oblivion...won't even bother trying to invade or imprison--just completely reduce their fortress to rubble. No one will be left alive there. Not a good solution
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32452256


Funny, I was typing about this possibility when you made your post.
Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies
~U.R.~

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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"Citadel." Convicted extortionist's latest con gets huge play on Drudge.

[link to sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com]


yeah, so no
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Maybe that's why they posted this in the blog:

We are posting this on all of our media. We are temporarily turning off comments. We have gotten a lot of media exposure in the last few days and our traffic has really jumped.
For those of you with comments that have been submitted, we will get to them. We understand your concerns. The reality is that many of the detail questions don't have answers yet. Much remains to be decided. Some questions won't be answerable until we have a site picked out. Some questions won't be answerable until the current political turmoil settles, one way or another. Some answers will change as we go forward. We will adapt to whatever situation develops.

An important point to remember is that this isn't a top down, everything planned by us community. What we are building is a framework of Liberty and security that Patriots can build their own life in. Much of what has been initially proposed is no more than a draft version to start working from. It will grow and change and develop as we go forward.
Many of your questions are "why aren't you building/providing/doing _______?" We believe free markets are the best way to provide the goods and services that will be needed by the Citadel. If you don't like that answer, the Citadel is probably not a good fit for you. The III Arms Company will provide the initial financial base to get started, but beyond that those who move to the Citadel will need to bring work or income with them or have employment with a current business already arranged. We aren't going to paint a rosy, unrealistic picture of what is needed. We aren't in this to "sell" something. We are in this to build the community we want to live in. It's not going to be easy and it's not going to be simple. Don't let that discourage you if you are interested, just be realistic about what it's going to take to do this.
VJ

[link to iiicitadel.blogspot.com]
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~U.R.~

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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The quintessential bugout solution is not published.

During the Great Depression, many people built survival shelters in the ground. They did precisely what Civil War soldiers did during Winter.

Like this:
[link to t0.gstatic.com]

or this:
[link to www.coyotetrails.org]

or this:
[link to www.coyotetrails.org]

If you had to bug out, could find a quiet place near water and a meadow (clearing for growing crops) and near forest, but with an overhang of earth (hill-side) then you could dig in, build a frame, clear it out, and make a hobbit hole. It wouldn't be perfect, but pretty warm.

If you can go down a bit, you in essence built a root cellar.
[link to www.anr.state.vt.us]

It will stay warm to 50 deg F. That means FAR LESS fuel to heat it. Most likely wood, but if lucky enough to be near a cow pasture, then you could burn dried cow manure like your ancestors would have done.

It will be naturally cool in the heat of Summer.

I reckon a lot of folks could head to the National Forests and do just fine as long as they had some common sense and a whole lot of fortitude.

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 01/18/2013 02:16 AM
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The quintessential bugout solution is not published.

During the Great Depression, many people built survival shelters in the ground. They did precisely what Civil War soldiers did during Winter.

Like this:
[link to t0.gstatic.com]

or this:
[link to www.coyotetrails.org]

or this:
[link to www.coyotetrails.org]

If you had to bug out, could find a quiet place near water and a meadow (clearing for growing crops) and near foods, but with an overhand of earth (hill-side) then you could dig in, build a frame, clear it out, and make a hobbit hole. It wouldn't be perfect, but pretty warm.

If you can go down a bit, you in essence built a root cellar.
[link to www.anr.state.vt.us]

It will stay warm to 50 deg F. That means FAR LESS fuel to heat it. Most likely wood, but if lucky enough to be near a cow pasture, then you could burn dried cow manure like your ancestors would have done.

I reckon a lot of folks could head to the National Forests and do just fine as long as they had some common sense and a whole lot of fortitude.
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Good point. Maybe I should have worded it: community-based bugout solution/option.
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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I stumbled across this information and am not sure what to make of it as yet, but their website seems very legit and from what I can tell, very informative. Here's a brief description, but I encourage you to view the site:

THE CITADEL

The Citadel is evolving as a planned community where residents are bound together by:

•Patriotism
•Pride in American Exceptionalism
•Our proud history of Liberty as defined by our Founding Fathers, and
•Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes — such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina — or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.
The Citadel is not your typical planned community where the developer's objective is selling cookie-cutter homes at the highest possible profit-margin.

The Citadel is not profit-driven. The Citadel is Liberty-driven: specifically Thomas Jefferson's Rightful Liberty.

Marxists, Socialists, Liberals and Establishment Republicans will likely find that life in our community is incompatible with their existing ideology and preferred lifestyles.

DESCRIPTION: The Citadel Community will house between 3,500 and 7,000 patriotic American families who agree that being prepared for the emergencies of life and being proficient with the American icon of Liberty — the Rifle — are prudent measures. There will be no HOA. There will be no recycling police and no local ordinance enforcers from City Hall.

LOCATION: We are in the process of selecting the ideal location among the beautiful mountains of Idaho in the American Redoubt...

See their website here:
[link to iiicitadel.com]
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER




The evil regime will just bomb them into oblivion...won't even bother trying to invade or imprison--just completely reduce their fortress to rubble. No one will be left alive there. Not a good solution
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Funny, I was typing about this possibility when you made your post.
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER




I noticed. Yes, with modern technology, a fortress wouldn't have a chance against the dark powers. Sitting ducks.
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I stumbled across this information and am not sure what to make of it as yet, but their website seems very legit and from what I can tell, very informative. Here's a brief description, but I encourage you to view the site:

THE CITADEL

The Citadel is evolving as a planned community where residents are bound together by:

•Patriotism
•Pride in American Exceptionalism
•Our proud history of Liberty as defined by our Founding Fathers, and
•Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes — such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina — or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.
The Citadel is not your typical planned community where the developer's objective is selling cookie-cutter homes at the highest possible profit-margin.

The Citadel is not profit-driven. The Citadel is Liberty-driven: specifically Thomas Jefferson's Rightful Liberty.

Marxists, Socialists, Liberals and Establishment Republicans will likely find that life in our community is incompatible with their existing ideology and preferred lifestyles.

DESCRIPTION: The Citadel Community will house between 3,500 and 7,000 patriotic American families who agree that being prepared for the emergencies of life and being proficient with the American icon of Liberty — the Rifle — are prudent measures. There will be no HOA. There will be no recycling police and no local ordinance enforcers from City Hall.

LOCATION: We are in the process of selecting the ideal location among the beautiful mountains of Idaho in the American Redoubt...

See their website here:
[link to iiicitadel.com]
 Quoting: UseLess RepEATER




The evil regime will just bomb them into oblivion...won't even bother trying to invade or imprison--just completely reduce their fortress to rubble. No one will be left alive there. Not a good solution
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32452256


Funny, I was typing about this possibility when you made your post.
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I noticed. Yes, with modern technology, a fortress wouldn't have a chance against the dark powers. Sitting ducks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32452256


Yep, "The Little House on the Prairie" days are over.
Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies
~U.R.~

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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More comments would be appreciated, as I think this is a fairly novel concept that may have some promise. Will check back tomorrow. Cheers.
Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies
~U.R.~

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

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the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
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I wrote about this awhile back. See my sig. A lot of people think, "Well this is my castle. I'm reckon I'll protect 'er."

Nope.

If it's Winter, and you're burning firewood, all they have to do it block the chimney. That was a common ploy on the frontier.

A home today is not a castle. They have very thin walls. They won't come through the door. They could just ram a wall with a pickup truck.

A castle defense with no castle is not a good strategy.

The amount of rounds you would need would be so high to actually do anything....if that's your plan, then a siege will result every time with the interior folks starving or surrendering.

One single tear gas cannister tossed in will result in a lot of people leaving the domicile.

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I stumbled across this information and am not sure what to make of it as yet, but their website seems very legit and from what I can tell, very informative. Here's a brief description, but I encourage you to view the site:

THE CITADEL

The Citadel is evolving as a planned community where residents are bound together by:

•Patriotism
•Pride in American Exceptionalism
•Our proud history of Liberty as defined by our Founding Fathers, and
•Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes — such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina — or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.
The Citadel is not your typical planned community where the developer's objective is selling cookie-cutter homes at the highest possible profit-margin.

The Citadel is not profit-driven. The Citadel is Liberty-driven: specifically Thomas Jefferson's Rightful Liberty.

Marxists, Socialists, Liberals and Establishment Republicans will likely find that life in our community is incompatible with their existing ideology and preferred lifestyles.

DESCRIPTION: The Citadel Community will house between 3,500 and 7,000 patriotic American families who agree that being prepared for the emergencies of life and being proficient with the American icon of Liberty — the Rifle — are prudent measures. There will be no HOA. There will be no recycling police and no local ordinance enforcers from City Hall.

LOCATION: We are in the process of selecting the ideal location among the beautiful mountains of Idaho in the American Redoubt...

See their website here:
[link to iiicitadel.com]
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The evil regime will just bomb them into oblivion...won't even bother trying to invade or imprison--just completely reduce their fortress to rubble. No one will be left alive there. Not a good solution
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Funny, I was typing about this possibility when you made your post.
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I noticed. Yes, with modern technology, a fortress wouldn't have a chance against the dark powers. Sitting ducks.
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Yep. It's called an airstrike with a drone.
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Get ready to fortify your 'bug out' locale in your surrounding environs if need be. Not everyone can pick up and travel 1000 miles, or even 50; but we can go 10.

Meet Martin Mawyer, investigative journalist (journalism at its finest). Mawyer is author of 'Twighlite in America.'

-Ali Azeez, undercover agent lived at one of the jihadist compounds HERE ON AMERICAN SOIL for 8 years.

-FBI approached Mr. Mawyer and told him to be careful about what he was saying/documenting; there was an "extremist islamic compound" just 30 miles from his home.

-17 of these "camps" are confirmed in the southeast corridor of the United States; many more are in the central southern, west, upstate N.Y., etc.

-Rural land has been purchased and these "camps" for militaristic jihadists have been actively training in them FOR YEARS NOW.

-Recruits are actively sought from PRISONS etc.,

-Hancock, NY; Commerce, GA; Red House, VA have compounds 80 acres or more.

-One of their "jihadist" mottos: ACT LIKE YOU ARE THEIR FRIENDS, THEN KILL THEM, JUST LIKE IN THE BOOK.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Here's the FB link for anyone who may be interested in following this project:

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Has anyone else out there heard of this potential project? The founder is allegedly a crook--but I read an entire story regarding his Fed. offense and it seems to me he was railroaded.
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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I looked around a bit and I smell another WACO in the works.
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I looked around a bit and I smell another WACO in the works.
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I could see that, but every phase of this project, if it ever gets off the ground, will be monitored. I am sure it will be done strategically. To boot, the gun factory is the first phase...I have my doubts overall, but I would rather be surrounded by like-minded, able-bodied patriots as our future carries forward. The way things are going, we will look back at 2013 and think these were the good old days?

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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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Call the " Liberty minded" to a camp and stage a event. Camp and oath keepers go poof while they laugh at a "bag of lunatics"

I would say no.
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I looked around a bit and I smell another WACO in the works.
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I could see that, but every phase of this project, if it ever gets off the ground will be monitored. I am sure it will be done strategically. To boot, the gun factory is the first phase...
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The stage is being set and sadly many good people will fall for this crap.
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I looked around a bit and I smell another WACO in the works.
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I could see that, but every phase of this project, if it ever gets off the ground will be monitored. I am sure it will be done strategically. To boot, the gun factory is the first phase...
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The stage is being set and sadly many good people will fall for this crap.
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I am in no way endorsing this conceptual community--I just want to have a dialogue about the feasibility of same.
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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
~Dresden James~
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reminds me of two old adages:

the road to hell is paved with good intentions

and

fish in a barrel

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