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GRAVITY, HOW does it work??

 
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it is a fact that mass bends space? Or just theory ?
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Light, which is massless, follows a curve path when passing massive objects.
Search term: Einstein lens.
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We don't even know for sure that light is mass-less.
It behaves as both a wave and a particle.
The particle aspect must have mass from what I understand all particles have mass even if it is too small to measure.
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it is a fact that mass bends space? Or just theory ?
 Quoting: Dutch OP 1499591

Light, which is massless, follows a curve path when passing massive objects.
Search term: Einstein lens.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

We don't even know for sure that light is mass-less.
It behaves as both a wave and a particle.
The particle aspect must have mass from what I understand all particles have mass even if it is too small to measure.
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Why?

Any thing with a non-zero rest mass would require an infinite amount of energy to move at light speed.

"It behaves as both a wave and a particle" means quanta are neither.
Our macro-scale intuition is useless here.
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There is no such thing as gravity. The world sucks.
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Wow thanks all for the input and links :-) going trough them now!

You all have a great weekend !!!
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God is involved just as the god particle, but i want to know what causes it...

Is there any info about that?

Searched the cern site, seems they are on the right track...but i must have input how it works...
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lol, you must be some kind of genius.
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God is involved just as the god particle.......
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lol, you must be some kind of genius.

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Exalted is He from what they utter. Exalted is He from what they imagine. Exalted is He that exists without a place. Exalted is He that was there forever without a time or a beginning. Exalted is He that will be there forever without a time or an end. Exalted is He that will forever be praised. That is your God.
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I do not know how it works, but I do know, it makes my tits sag a little more every year.
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How does gravity works? I like to know what causes these forces.

Any specialist on this subject here?
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im no expert but what i have come to know through lots of looking is this....the law of attraction is powerful everything in the universe is attracted by some other thing!.....when you have two objects in space they will eventually come together....when you have one big object and one small object the small object is always MORE attracted and moves MORE towards the big object...hope this helps.
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I'm not certain gravity has ever been completely explained. The guy that built coral castle (leerskillen or something like that) said gravity as we know it doesn't exist, he put it down to the fact that every object has a magnetic pull, that's how he claimed he built his castle and how the pyramids were built. It's sketchy but I thought I'd put it out there.

Personally I think science lost its way after Newton when it went truly materialistic. I think 'invisible forces', earth energy, magnetism, electromagnetism, frequency etc.. Could answer a lot of scientific mysteries better than modern science. I did a degree in science and science was my god for many years. I've now lost faith in it completely, there's so much we don't know, misunderstand or have been sold false solutions to that I think many things will go unanswered.

The ancients had the answers, we don't, why would that be?

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Electromagnetic fields. Everything has an electromagnetic field, including the earth. Law of attraction.
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That's the #1 puzzle for the heavy thinkers now. No one really knows besides mass generates it.
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it is a fact that mass bends space? Or just theory ?
 Quoting: Dutch OP 1499591

Light, which is massless, follows a curve path when passing massive objects.
Search term: Einstein lens.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


We don't even know for sure that light is mass-less.
It behaves as both a wave and a particle.
The particle aspect must have mass from what I understand all particles have mass even if it is too small to measure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1018225


im no expert but..look at energy and mass like this...the nothing around you is a highly diluted form of mass and the mass of objects you see are all high conentrated forms of energy,,,so all is energy and energy is all.hope this helps.
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I'm not certain gravity has ever been completely explained. The guy that built coral castle (leerskillen or something like that) said gravity as we know it doesn't exist, he put it down to the fact that every object has a magnetic pull, that's how he claimed he built his castle and how the pyramids were built. It's sketchy but I thought I'd put it out there.

Personally I think science lost its way after Newton when it went truly materialistic. I think 'invisible forces', earth energy, magnetism, electromagnetism, frequency etc.. Could answer a lot of scientific mysteries better than modern science. I did a degree in science and science was my god for many years. I've now lost faith in it completely, there's so much we don't know, misunderstand or have been sold false solutions to that I think many things will go unanswered.

The ancients had the answers, we don't, why would that be?
 Quoting: Level0


Thanks for the input, do you have any link maybe on that coral castle?

Have some goooood input so far :-) but must check much more...

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Imagine there was no gravity.

Would we still be standing on the ground?
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That's the #1 puzzle for the heavy thinkers now. No one really knows besides mass generates it.
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I think important to realize ... Much mass different gravities and frequencies in the mixed quantum soup
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That's the #1 puzzle for the heavy thinkers now. No one really knows besides mass generates it.
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The poor dears can't even explain mass... lmao
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[youtube] [link to youtube.com]

I think important to realize ... Much mass different gravities and frequencies in the mixed quantum soup
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scratching

Different gravities?
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Why?

Any thing with a non-zero rest mass would require an infinite amount of energy to move at light speed.

"It behaves as both a wave and a particle" means quanta are neither.
Our macro-scale intuition is useless here.
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 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD


Yes dear... do continue on that line of thought won't you?

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[youtube] [link to youtube.com]

I think important to realize ... Much mass different gravities and frequencies in the mixed quantum soup
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scratching

Different gravities?
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Very massive objects... I mean different amounts of gravity that pulls on object s..
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Yes but is gravity a quantum property?

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Yes but is gravity a quantum property?
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Time's up! It is not.

So what are we left with to explain gravity?

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Yes but is gravity a quantum property?
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I think so but not sure yet...
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Before you can control it you have to understand it.
So ask Dr Ning Li, after some experiments, she got a $400K gov't grant to provide gravity shielding enabling the effortless lifting and moving of Abrams 60 ton tanks. You're laughing?
Moved from her professorship&experiment at U of Alabama to an incubator building and her new ACgravity LLC. Well the building was never occupied and Dr Ning Li never seen again, maybe she went to Area 51 with her knowledge or back to commie china, but she's long gone with the definition of gravity.

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Fine, fine, everyone wants to be spoon fed these days.

The answer you are looking for is this:

Spin.

There is no "gravity".

Note the extensive similarity between equations of gravity and of magnetism.

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And for the mathematician readers:

The E8 is very pretty, but...

Ya missed a dimension. Z.

You're welcome.

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Apparently there was a scientist of the caliber of Einstein at around Einsteins time who had a more well accepted theory of gravity being a "push" and not a bending of space or a pull. Find it on [link to metaresearch.org]
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God is involved just as the god particle, but i want to know what causes it...

Is there any info about that?

Searched the cern site, seems they are on the right track...but i must have input how it works...
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Higgs-Boson is time dependent.

GoD is eternal.

Thus, no GoD particle yet I am afraid.
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Apparently there was a scientist of the caliber of Einstein at around Einsteins time who had a more well accepted theory of gravity being a "push" and not a bending of space or a pull. Find it on [link to metaresearch.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9097418


This seems counterintuitive, but this is essentially the case.

Imagine you fire two drops of water at each other, parallel and close enough that they collide.

Some of the material is pushed towards the center by the forces of collision.

That center is necessarily rotating as well, since it is a result of two opposing forces on two vector planes.

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