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Former Australian prime minister in NY Times: "I Went After Guns. Obama Can, Too."

 
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Former Australian prime minister in NY Times: "I Went After Guns. Obama Can, Too."
IT is for Americans and their elected representatives to determine the right response to President Obama’s proposals on gun control. I wouldn’t presume to lecture Americans on the subject. I can, however, describe what I, as prime minister of Australia, did to curb gun violence following a horrific massacre 17 years ago in the hope that it will contribute constructively to the debate in the United States.

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Our challenges were different from America’s. Australia is an even more intensely urban society, with close to 60 percent of our people living in large cities. Our gun lobby isn’t as powerful or well-financed as the National Rifle Association in the United States. Australia, correctly in my view, does not have a Bill of Rights, so our legislatures have more say than America’s over many issues of individual rights, and our courts have less control. Also, we have no constitutional right to bear arms. (After all, the British granted us nationhood peacefully; the United States had to fight for it.)

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To make this plan work, there had to be a federally financed gun buyback scheme. Ultimately, the cost of the buyback was met by a special one-off tax imposed on all Australians. This required new legislation and was widely accepted across the political spectrum. Almost 700,000 guns were bought back and destroyed — the equivalent of 40 million guns in the United States.

More at [link to www.nytimes.com]



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Australia and America are two different beasts.

Our constitution provides our right to bear arms and it is the authority over what some criminal administration thinks.

The diff is Americans will shoot the so-called authorities over this agenda. Australians just took it deep in their colon like a good little queer.
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Re: Former Australian prime minister in NY Times: "I Went After Guns. Obama Can, Too."
Does he want crime in the U.S. to skyrocket like it has in Australia too? Is he so proud of that accomplishment that he wants others to do the same?
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Re: Former Australian prime minister in NY Times: "I Went After Guns. Obama Can, Too."
Australia and America are two different beasts.

Our constitution provides our right to bear arms and it is the authority over what some criminal administration thinks.

The diff is Americans will shoot the so-called authorities over this agenda. Australians just took it deep in their colon like a good little queer.
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You're right, thisi s what else he said, from the original article...


Because Australia is a federation of states, the national government has no control over gun ownership, sale or use, beyond controlling imports. Given our decentralized system of government, I could reduce the number of dangerous firearms only by persuading the states to enact uniform laws totally prohibiting the ownership, possession and sale of all automatic and semiautomatic weapons while the national government banned the importation of such weapons.
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Does he want crime in the U.S. to skyrocket like it has in Australia too? Is he so proud of that accomplishment that he wants others to do the same?
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He is more than likely a proponent of a UN controlled one world government which is demanding world disarmament of everyone except military, law enforcement and of course, the elite & their minions.
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Australia and America are two different beasts.

Our constitution provides our right to bear arms and it is the authority over what some criminal administration thinks.

The diff is Americans will shoot the so-called authorities over this agenda. Australians just took it deep in their colon like a good little queer.
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I wouldn't diss the Aussies like that; as you say, they didn't have a Bill of Rights to uphold their freedom in that respect .

Neither did any other country in the world's history where a criminal dictator has taken away the people's means of self defense and resistance to tyranny.

We do.


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"Who decides?"
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"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"
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That's funny :-D I heard on the radio a few days ago that there are MORE guns in Australia now than there were at the time of the 'Port Arthur Massacre', or after two rounds of the gun buy-back schemes/amnesties.

So what is he trying to say? J.H. is as crooked as a dog's hind leg and anything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.

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Re: Former Australian prime minister in NY Times: "I Went After Guns. Obama Can, Too."
Australia and America are two different beasts.

Our constitution provides our right to bear arms and it is the authority over what some criminal administration thinks.

The diff is Americans will shoot the so-called authorities over this agenda. Australians just took it deep in their colon like a good little queer.
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I wouldn't diss the Aussies like that; as you say, they didn't have a Bill of Rights to uphold their freedom in that respect .

Neither did any other country in the world's history where a criminal dictator has taken away the people's means of self defense and resistance to tyranny.

We do.

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did

We did.
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Does he want crime in the U.S. to skyrocket like it has in Australia too? Is he so proud of that accomplishment that he wants others to do the same?
 Quoting: Resister


He is more than likely a proponent of a UN controlled one world government which is demanding world disarmament of everyone except military, law enforcement and of course, the elite & their minions.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


thought the same thing Ralph. Resist do not sumbit stand up for your rights or lose them forever.

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Re: Former Australian prime minister in NY Times: "I Went After Guns. Obama Can, Too."
That's funny :-D I heard on the radio a few days ago that there are MORE guns in Australia now than there were at the time of the 'Port Arthur Massacre' or after two rounds of the gun buy-back schemes/amnesties.

So what is he trying to say? J.H. is as crooked as a dog's hind leg and anything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.
 Quoting: kangablue


Maybe as a result of population increases; more people=more guns?

There are exceptions on gun ownership bans for some such as farmers who need them to protect their herds and crops against predators. They allow gun use for hunting and target shooting, too. Registration and permits are mandatory and self defense is not considered a reason to own a gun.

As in most places, I imagine "important" people are exempt from gun bans.

Last Edited by Ralph--a house dog on 01/19/2013 10:12 AM
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Re: Former Australian prime minister in NY Times: "I Went After Guns. Obama Can, Too."
I bet his personal security is still being paid for by the Australian taxpayer and the cops who mind his house are all armed like with Tony Blair.