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You can only survive 3 Weeks without it, start storing food, NOW!!!

 
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yes lard is a much better choice and has more uses and in my opinion is more healthy for you
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I have a very large food stash but have n0 cooking oils. The cooking oils that I first bought went rancid long ago so I decided buying any sort of cooking oil was a waste of money.
Anyways, I never did by lard. Do you know how long the shelf life of lard is? I guess the better question would be to ask how long does lard keep before it goes bad?
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dont know what it is officially but im using some now that
is 4 years old.has had no special storage considerations
just stored in the bucket I purchased it in and still tasts fine.I think it has an almost indefinite shelf life as long
as you dont let the air or water get to it.
 Quoting: chowan


OIL goes bad and quick. look it up if you think i am lying..
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


Try coconut oil. If it's extracted properly it'll last insanely long, just ignore the BBE, in most cases for a lot of things it's usually just plain wrong. It's VERY healthy too and should aid you in fighting infections/molds etc. There's just one problem; IT'S EXPENSIVE. But well I'm sure a lot of places could do you a deal for such a bulk order.

And yeah beans/rice or noodles/veggies/oil/herbs and spice/salt and live like a king. It's basically what I ate everyday for years anyway! Apocalypse? No, I always eat like this! This should go without saying but remember to get a PROPER sea salt as you can do without the blood pressure problems and mineral deficiencies from chemical salt, I mean you'll have enough problems right? Just remember to mix a bit of kelp powder in the sea salt for the iodine.

Oh and luxury. yes, I know you can't really rely on luxury in such a setting, but it wouldn't hurt to package away SOME food just for your mental pleasure. A treat to look forward to occasionally. It wouldn't last but it would help lead you into whatever hell you have to adjust to.

Store a bit of food that is easy to store that you hate and would never eat. For trade, something you wouldn't mind trading. Hey, they don't have to know you'd have to be 3 weeks starving before you touched it!
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when buying food never use debit or credit use cash

and never ever tell anyone your safe place or what you have or what you are dong no matter what

keep it to your self.
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I have a very large food stash but have n0 cooking oils. The cooking oils that I first bought went rancid long ago so I decided buying any sort of cooking oil was a waste of money.
Anyways, I never did by lard. Do you know how long the shelf life of lard is? I guess the better question would be to ask how long does lard keep before it goes bad?
 Quoting: ººEATºº


dont know what it is officially but im using some now that
is 4 years old.has had no special storage considerations
just stored in the bucket I purchased it in and still tasts fine.I think it has an almost indefinite shelf life as long
as you dont let the air or water get to it.
 Quoting: chowan


OIL goes bad and quick. look it up if you think i am lying..
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


Try coconut oil. If it's extracted properly it'll last insanely long, just ignore the BBE, in most cases for a lot of things it's usually just plain wrong. It's VERY healthy too and should aid you in fighting infections/molds etc. There's just one problem; IT'S EXPENSIVE. But well I'm sure a lot of places could do you a deal for such a bulk order.

And yeah beans/rice or noodles/veggies/oil/herbs and spice/salt and live like a king. It's basically what I ate everyday for years anyway! Apocalypse? No, I always eat like this! This should go without saying but remember to get a PROPER sea salt as you can do without the blood pressure problems and mineral deficiencies from chemical salt, I mean you'll have enough problems right? Just remember to mix a bit of kelp powder in the sea salt for the iodine.

Oh and luxury. yes, I know you can't really rely on luxury in such a setting, but it wouldn't hurt to package away SOME food just for your mental pleasure. A treat to look forward to occasionally. It wouldn't last but it would help lead you into whatever hell you have to adjust to.

Store a bit of food that is easy to store that you hate and would never eat. For trade, something you wouldn't mind trading. Hey, they don't have to know you'd have to be 3 weeks starving before you touched it!
 Quoting: Master X

I view cocnut oil as medicinal!
In the end it doesn't even matter...
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when buying food never use debit or credit use cash

and never ever tell anyone your safe place or what you have or what you are dong no matter what

keep it to your self.
 Quoting: SeaPunk


Good advice!
In the end it doesn't even matter...
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I just can't believe how people run out of food. In normal times, I have at LEAST a month worth of food in my house. There is never a time where we have NOTHING to eat, but I have friends who constantly say how they are "out of food, not a scrap to eat, gotta get to the store!" How does that happen? How are you so irresponsible? I have 3 kids. I will never be without at least a month of food in my house. Sure, we might be eating rice and beans by the end of the month, but we could survive! And we have been stocking up even more...as of tonight we have about 3 months of food...bags and bags of rice, cans and cans of beans, mountains of peanut butter, and so on. It's really not that hard to keep some extra food around. It's irresponsible not to, ESPECIALLY if you have kids.
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when buying food never use debit or credit use cash

and never ever tell anyone your safe place or what you have or what you are dong no matter what

keep it to your self.
 Quoting: SeaPunk


i am re posting this just so you read that again.. Number One rule !!!!
"Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll
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when buying food never use debit or credit use cash

and never ever tell anyone your safe place or what you have or what you are dong no matter what

keep it to your self.
 Quoting: SeaPunk


i am re posting this just so you read that again.. Number One rule !!!!
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


Good rule......never thought of that!!!
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when buying food never use debit or credit use cash

and never ever tell anyone your safe place or what you have or what you are dong no matter what

keep it to your self.
 Quoting: SeaPunk


i am re posting this just so you read that again.. Number One rule !!!!
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


Good rule......never thought of that!!!
 Quoting: Roniii


Even better, just grab an extra can or 2 of tuna, or an extra bag or 2 of rice, every time you grocery shop. It adds up quickly and it's not like you are at a bulk shop buying 600lbs of rice at one time. So if you are using a card, it just looks like a normal trip to the store. After a month you have a bunch of extras that will last you if you need them.
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it makes sense that, in consideration of the number of people who were willing to turn in guns for food, that many Americans should try to keep at least enough food stored to survive at least one drought or other food crisis. Asking someone with little money to have tens of thousands of dollars in food is asking too much, but suggesting everyone have a closet, bed, storage bin, or some other place where they can at least go several days to a couple of weeks without going to the grocery store is a good idea.

You should also avoid advertising your food storage to anyone but other food storage friends, and if you have something large enough to warrant talking about, you should probably plan on arming yourself to defend it.
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when buying food never use debit or credit use cash

and never ever tell anyone your safe place or what you have or what you are dong no matter what

keep it to your self.
 Quoting: SeaPunk


i am re posting this just so you read that again.. Number One rule !!!!
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


Good rule......never thought of that!!!
 Quoting: Roniii


Even better, just grab an extra can or 2 of tuna, or an extra bag or 2 of rice, every time you grocery shop. It adds up quickly and it's not like you are at a bulk shop buying 600lbs of rice at one time. So if you are using a card, it just looks like a normal trip to the store. After a month you have a bunch of extras that will last you if you need them.
 Quoting: DoomingItUp


That is what I do, just buy a little extra and store it away each time you go shopping. You would not believe what 20 dollars a week in staple items can get you in a year. You dont have to go crazy, just start doing it.
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when buying food never use debit or credit use cash

and never ever tell anyone your safe place or what you have or what you are dong no matter what

keep it to your self.
 Quoting: SeaPunk


i am re posting this just so you read that again.. Number One rule !!!!
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


Good rule......never thought of that!!!
 Quoting: Roniii


Even better, just grab an extra can or 2 of tuna, or an extra bag or 2 of rice, every time you grocery shop. It adds up quickly and it's not like you are at a bulk shop buying 600lbs of rice at one time. So if you are using a card, it just looks like a normal trip to the store. After a month you have a bunch of extras that will last you if you need them.
 Quoting: DoomingItUp


I will definately do that! Best thread in awhile for me! That's why I love my glp family everyone may think we are crazy, but in fact, it's quite the opposite!
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when buying food never use debit or credit use cash

and never ever tell anyone your safe place or what you have or what you are dong no matter what

keep it to your self.
 Quoting: SeaPunk


i am re posting this just so you read that again.. Number One rule !!!!
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


Good rule......never thought of that!!!
 Quoting: Roniii


Even better, just grab an extra can or 2 of tuna, or an extra bag or 2 of rice, every time you grocery shop. It adds up quickly and it's not like you are at a bulk shop buying 600lbs of rice at one time. So if you are using a card, it just looks like a normal trip to the store. After a month you have a bunch of extras that will last you if you need them.
 Quoting: DoomingItUp


I also like purchasing large quantities of food stuffs during holiday times. There are sales plus it doesn't look too suspicious, except when the sales clerk said "why do I need 24 cans of peaches?"...lol
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They are tracking people who are storing food.
Thats offical knowledge.

One of Obamas Exec orders was for possessing peoples homes, vehicles, labor and foods, and water. During an emergency / martial law.

All Im saying is w/o your guns you wont be keeping your food from them or fellow man.
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I dislike Obama and his policies as much as the next person
but the exec orders that make "legal" the confiscation of food,water,labor etc did not start with him Bush i think maybee even before him.

and that being said most of the food consfication will take place in the form of agriculture any company or person involved in agriculture is required to fill out an agriculture census listing all resources that could be aquired in a emergency.

personal food storage will be very unlikely to be consficated and your guns would not help
you very much against a trained equiped military unit.

nobody is saying dont own a gun but without food and a large amount you will have nothing to defend.

Last Edited by chowan on 01/18/2013 09:56 PM
well alright then
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Thanks. Like I said before, my cooking OIL went rancid after sitting on the shelf for a few years. I will try LARD!
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Fats tend to go rancid in most storage conditions. Oddly enough, canned fats don't seem to be plagued with that problem, though I don't understand what the difference is. Perhaps dissolved oxygen permeating the non canned fats?
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


OP have you ever heard of pemmican? supposed to tast like sht but lasts near to forever never eaten it myself
but its something to consider when it comes to fats.
 Quoting: chowan


I have heard of it but dont know much about it. From what i just read its has to be frozen and even then its shelf life is two years? you talking about something different?

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Yep. Great smoke screen they have laid out there for us. Totally have people going the wrong direction.

Does anyone know what politicians and others own stock in ammo or guns?

Who makes the ammo?
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Thanks. Like I said before, my cooking OIL went rancid after sitting on the shelf for a few years. I will try LARD!
 Quoting: ººEATºº


Fats tend to go rancid in most storage conditions. Oddly enough, canned fats don't seem to be plagued with that problem, though I don't understand what the difference is. Perhaps dissolved oxygen permeating the non canned fats?
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


OP have you ever heard of pemmican? supposed to tast like sht but lasts near to forever never eaten it myself
but its something to consider when it comes to fats.
 Quoting: chowan


I have heard of it but dont know much about it. From what i just read its has to be frozen and even then its shelf life is two years? you talking about something different?

[link to blog.grasslandbeef.com]
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


what I read years ago was caches of pemmican found after decades that was still edible.

but here is a recipee and some good info 8 months to many years it mentions without refridgeration.

[link to www.grandpappy.info]
well alright then
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Yep. Great smoke screen they have laid out there for us. Totally have people going the wrong direction.

Does anyone know what politicians and others own stock in ammo or guns?

Who makes the ammo?
 Quoting: RedDawnPost


Merika owns it, We are the largest arms dealer on the planet you know.
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I'm in hurricane country.

We are well stocked.

Dry goods. Canned goods. MREs (these are last resort due to all the crap in them).

We have our own well that can be hand pumped when necessary.

And guns and ammo.

I make note of those brag they don't stock up because they will take their neighbor's food.
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Yep. Great smoke screen they have laid out there for us. Totally have people going the wrong direction.

Does anyone know what politicians and others own stock in ammo or guns?

Who makes the ammo?
 Quoting: RedDawnPost


Merika owns it, We are the largest arms dealer on the planet you know.
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


Yea. We are the military arm of the order. But what Corps and who has stock? Also who are the CEO's? I'm being lazy. I'll probably look it up later.
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I agree with you, OP. We bought a sailboat after the economy crashed and have slowly stocked it with about 1000 lbs. of food. When SHTF, we will be leaving on it. There's lots of islands around the South Pacific to explore, and it's warm.
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Cuy
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cavy or guinne pig?
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GP.

Disregard how they are raised as pets.

Take a trip and see how they are raised in the Andes in Peru.

Grass.

Most elegant source of protein raised regarding resources bar none.
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I.E., a very small space for yield of healthful, and delicious, protein source.

Even though I'm out in the country I know it would be hunted out quickly enough.
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Forget about buying guns, start storing food, NOW!!!
You must have been to an emptied gun store recently... :)
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You know, I see all the bugout stuff about food. But WTF are you going to do about water.
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Another tip.

Butane stove. NOT propane.
Butane.
Safe to use indoors.

Single burner.

Asian markets, 10 to 20 bucks.
Store up on refills, also relatively inexpensive compared to other things.

I get a chuckle going into a sporting goods store and seeing guys looking at the Coleman stuff.

Naw.

Get a one burner butane stove at an Asian market.

You'll remember this post and thank me.

You will.
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Cuy
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cavy or guinne pig?
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GP.

Disregard how they are raised as pets.

Take a trip and see how they are raised in the Andes in Peru.

Grass.

Most elegant source of protein raised regarding resources bar none.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32466562


I.E., a very small space for yield of healthful, and delicious, protein source.

Even though I'm out in the country I know it would be hunted out quickly enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32466562


ive been thinking about trying to raise them for food i raise rabbits but the problem i have found with rabbits
is getting enough quality feed to keep them in shape and producing without purchasing commercial food.

Last Edited by chowan on 01/18/2013 10:21 PM
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Idaho checking in here, I've got plenty of food stored and garden in the summer plus many horses around......but this is turning out to be one hell of a winter. It is damned cold here and the whole state is under snow, the high country is out of the question for bugging out. We're talking multiple feet of snow and well below zero temps.....forget it for a couple months.
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Fats tend to go rancid in most storage conditions. Oddly enough, canned fats don't seem to be plagued with that problem, though I don't understand what the difference is. Perhaps dissolved oxygen permeating the non canned fats?
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


OP have you ever heard of pemmican? supposed to tast like sht but lasts near to forever never eaten it myself
but its something to consider when it comes to fats.
 Quoting: chowan


I have heard of it but dont know much about it. From what i just read its has to be frozen and even then its shelf life is two years? you talking about something different?

[link to blog.grasslandbeef.com]
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


what I read years ago was caches of pemmican found after decades that was still edible.

but here is a recipee and some good info 8 months to many years it mentions without refridgeration.

[link to www.grandpappy.info]
 Quoting: chowan


Seems to me the animal fat in there would go inedible and rancid over time longer than a year.
Might be easier just to buy canned goods as well.
It's a lot of work for a small return.
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I agree with you, OP. We bought a sailboat after the economy crashed and have slowly stocked it with about 1000 lbs. of food. When SHTF, we will be leaving on it. There's lots of islands around the South Pacific to explore, and it's warm.
 Quoting: amhealy


Ohh that sounds awesome. Damn i wish that was my plan. I would love a big sailboat.. OMG..
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Hey OP, don't forget to tell people about how to cook their meal...

A 5 gallon propane tank will cook about 400 servings if my math is correct, instant bucket meal I'm referring to.
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You know, I see all the bugout stuff about food. But WTF are you going to do about water.
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Ill make one about water next. Its deserves its own thread. stay tuned..

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