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You can only survive 3 Weeks without it, start storing food, NOW!!!

 
Bent

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You know, I see all the bugout stuff about food. But WTF are you going to do about water.
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Ill make one about water next. Its deserves its own thread. stay tuned..

hf
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


You could drill your own well, or move towards water.
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Idaho checking in here, I've got plenty of food stored and garden in the summer plus many horses around......but this is turning out to be one hell of a winter. It is damned cold here and the whole state is under snow, the high country is out of the question for bugging out. We're talking multiple feet of snow and well below zero temps.....forget it for a couple months.
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Stay at your house and stay warm, move people into a small internal room to stay warm if needed. You have food and many items that are useful where your at. Hunker down and try to keep your animals alive and happy. Good luck
"Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll
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You're on the money - it will be a lack of food coupled with the ability to get/ stay dry and warm that will kill many.

We should never ever discount the importance of weapons for personal/ family protection and for adding food to the table, nor the various skill sets of trapping/ fishing/ growing one's own food/ etc. However, once the time for Internet bravado has passed, the procurement of food for most isn't going to play out quite as fanciful or bountiful as in their daydreams.

Health
Physical Ailments/ Injury
Weather
Additional Threats (animal/ man/ environmental)
Population of Indigenous Food Sources
Access to Indigenous Food Sources

All of these will play to a large negative effect in one's ability to take food from the land - regardless if they wish to admit it or not.

Now is the time to prepare your food stores, and that includes growing, canning, dehydrating, and purchasing from a long-term food vendor. Even with ammo cans stacked to the roof - if you have no access/ opportunity to take food - for whatever the reason - that brass isn't going to be too palatable.

Prepping is neither a fad nor following a recent trend - it is a multi-tiered lifestyle.
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A lot of people have it in their minds that they will use all that brass and lead to TAKE food from others.

Some may succeed, other will die trying.
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Hopefully this hasn't already been mentioned.






This book is a fictional tale about prepping and the details you haven't even thought of yet. I highly recommend it. You are only focusing on the food you need to have STORED... not the things about true SURVIVAL. I am a prepper of the highest order, but I am a crack shot and trained in MMA. I am a female and my family means everything to me. I will protect to my last breath. There WILL be roving bands of people who are STARVING it is not their plan to be looters but they will have no other choice. This is where you will have to decide what you will do...read the book....it will change you, I promise.
Fool me once, shame on you.....fool me twice shame on me.
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Idaho checking in here, I've got plenty of food stored and garden in the summer plus many horses around......but this is turning out to be one hell of a winter. It is damned cold here and the whole state is under snow, the high country is out of the question for bugging out. We're talking multiple feet of snow and well below zero temps.....forget it for a couple months.
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Stay at your house and stay warm, move people into a small internal room to stay warm if needed. You have food and many items that are useful where your at. Hunker down and try to keep your animals alive and happy. Good luck
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Inuit live in harsher conditions, just sayin.
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Bottom line is, if it happens we must remain calm and courteous. I know in my heart, that there are more good people out there than bad. As soon as the shtf, instict will kick in and a knowing need for cooperation will prevail. Just watch.
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Help each other.
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Threatening bans are a great new way to stimulate the economy. Tell a kid to sit down, they wanna stand up.

It's the govt's new way to sell ad space. I'm sure the gun companies made a killing off of this.

Threatening a ban on anything is a sure fire way to make the thing being banned to go viral and fly off of shelves.

Hmmmmmm... what is the next industry that needs a boost???

Remember when the Mad Cow disease was threatening America? Beef sales went down.

Immediately the Media heavily promoted the South Beach Diet which.... wait for it.... promoted eating BEEF!

Wake up! There's more to things than meets the eye.

Not saying it's all about selling guns, but just wanted to point out the point that I was pointing at.
 Quoting: Mr_Electric


Certainly, the market has used dubious techniques to bolster markets however nature cn place a spin on things that the greedy cannot control.

Your analogy concerning beef is erroneous as Creutzfeldt - Jakob disease (CJD) is still a viable threat to our beef, venison and other animals in our food chain. The problem with diminished beef stocks is also related to lack of water otherwise known as drought conditions.

Drought conditions has forced Cargill meatpacking plant has just closed one of its plants due to drought conditions.

Cargill meatpacking plant cuts 2,000 jobs in Texas
[link to www.khou.com]

Prion Diseases
[link to www.cdc.gov]
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Bottom line is, if it happens we must remain calm and courteous. I know in my heart, that there are more good people out there than bad. As soon as the shtf, instict will kick in and a knowing need for cooperation will prevail. Just watch.
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Don't count on that at the outset and a ways into it.

That comes later.

Before that would be the winnowing of all the self-centered raised on violence screaming me me mes who try to take from others what they should have taken care of themselves.

I don't like guns. Never did.
I have them, though, because they are necessity.
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I just can't believe how people run out of food. In normal times, I have at LEAST a month worth of food in my house. There is never a time where we have NOTHING to eat, but I have friends who constantly say how they are "out of food, not a scrap to eat, gotta get to the store!" How does that happen? How are you so irresponsible? I have 3 kids. I will never be without at least a month of food in my house. Sure, we might be eating rice and beans by the end of the month, but we could survive! And we have been stocking up even more...as of tonight we have about 3 months of food...bags and bags of rice, cans and cans of beans, mountains of peanut butter, and so on. It's really not that hard to keep some extra food around. It's irresponsible not to, ESPECIALLY if you have kids.
 Quoting: DoomingItUp


You just reminded me of a link I have that has three types of shopping lists to get people started who really don't have much in the house to begin with and don't know where to get started.

Here are the three lists for anyone who is interested.

[link to www.justpeace.org]
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Bottom line is, if it happens we must remain calm and courteous. I know in my heart, that there are more good people out there than bad. As soon as the shtf, instict will kick in and a knowing need for cooperation will prevail. Just watch.
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Don't count on that at the outset and a ways into it.

That comes later.

Before that would be the winnowing of all the self-centered raised on violence screaming me me mes who try to take from others what they should have taken care of themselves.

I don't like guns. Never did.
I have them, though, because they are necessity.
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I know, but we must have that mindset at the outset.

Help one another.

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Bottom line is, if it happens we must remain calm and courteous. I know in my heart, that there are more good people out there than bad. As soon as the shtf, instict will kick in and a knowing need for cooperation will prevail. Just watch.
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Don't count on that at the outset and a ways into it.

That comes later.

Before that would be the winnowing of all the self-centered raised on violence screaming me me mes who try to take from others what they should have taken care of themselves.

I don't like guns. Never did.
I have them, though, because they are necessity.
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I know, but we must have that mindset at the outset.

Help one another.

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 Quoting: Bent


I understand this.
As well, I also understand this:
A good dollop of spider sense is/will be necessary to still be alive to help those of reciprocal like mind.
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Bottom line is, if it happens we must remain calm and courteous. I know in my heart, that there are more good people out there than bad. As soon as the shtf, instict will kick in and a knowing need for cooperation will prevail. Just watch.
 Quoting: Bent


Don't count on that at the outset and a ways into it.

That comes later.

Before that would be the winnowing of all the self-centered raised on violence screaming me me mes who try to take from others what they should have taken care of themselves.

I don't like guns. Never did.
I have them, though, because they are necessity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32466562


I know, but we must have that mindset at the outset.

Help one another.

Thread: Help each other.
 Quoting: Bent


I understand this.
As well, I also understand this:
A good dollop of spider sense is/will be necessary to still be alive to help those of reciprocal like mind.
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spiderman

Absolutely.
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Bottom line is, if it happens we must remain calm and courteous. I know in my heart, that there are more good people out there than bad. As soon as the shtf, instict will kick in and a knowing need for cooperation will prevail. Just watch.
 Quoting: Bent


You have faith in humanity. I have faith in Christ. Since humanity has fallen from Eden, I expect total chaos with very little cooperation from humanity and put my security in arming myself and having the Holy Spirit guide my abilities to shoot straight and accurately.
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Taking another's life kinda puts a Christian in a bind, does it not?
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My most favorite thing in my food stash is my Stag Chili by Hormel Foods.
-very versatile... can mix it with almost anything (rice, wheat,pasta,potatoes,soups, etc)
-tastes good
-long shelf life
-Hormel is a respected brand for food preppers (makes Spam)
 Quoting: ººEATºº


I was wondering when the "spam" would come out :)

I think special note should be taken of chia seed and edible clay. Google both of these things and see just how valuable they would be to have in your store of food.
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Bottom line is, if it happens we must remain calm and courteous. I know in my heart, that there are more good people out there than bad. As soon as the shtf, instict will kick in and a knowing need for cooperation will prevail. Just watch.
 Quoting: Bent


You have faith in humanity. I have faith in Christ. Since humanity has fallen from Eden, I expect total chaos with very little cooperation from humanity and put my security in arming myself and having the Holy Spirit guide my abilities to shoot straight and accurately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32456543


I've been in the, "Wake Up Club," since the 70s.

I've watched the progression.

I've checked the pulse of people all along.
If you engage a myriad of people in conversation you will find out what they think on particular subjects.
They will reveal themselves.
Only the most cagey will not.

Many darkened souls. Much evil.

And in the area in which I now reside, I've done that as well.

Again, many darkened souls. Much evil in too many hearts.

It is my intention to not be here in the states for, "it.
We have made plans and are just about out.

Don't ask where to folks.
You'll have to find your own ways for yourselves.
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Bottom line is, if it happens we must remain calm and courteous. I know in my heart, that there are more good people out there than bad. As soon as the shtf, instict will kick in and a knowing need for cooperation will prevail. Just watch.
 Quoting: Bent


Calmness and courtesy will be in short supply if the SHTF as obama has successfully created an expansive government dependent class who are clueless as how to survive if their checks fail to arrive or if supply chains break down.

Without much thought if somehow the power grid is knocked down the dependent class will loot local electronics and become the proud owners of useless big screen televisions and other electronics?

Cooperation is simply not in their game plan and if you doubt me please take a walk through your nearest neighborhood area of government dependent leeches.
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Bottom line is, if it happens we must remain calm and courteous. I know in my heart, that there are more good people out there than bad. As soon as the shtf, instict will kick in and a knowing need for cooperation will prevail. Just watch.
 Quoting: Bent


Calmness and courtesy will be in short supply if the SHTF as obama has successfully created an expansive government dependent class who are clueless as how to survive if their checks fail to arrive or if supply chains break down.

Without much thought if somehow the power grid is knocked down the dependent class will loot local electronics and become the proud owners of useless big screen televisions and other electronics?

Cooperation is simply not in their game plan and if you doubt me please take a walk through your nearest neighborhood area of government dependent leeches.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


I'll throw this one into the stew.

Around me there are few of what you state.
Nope.

Here most people prepare for only short term.
They have generators and only so much gas.
They have food and only so much.
They think short term.
After the storm the stores will be open again in x number of days.

Once that x number of days will pass they will be every bit as dangerous as any other group of people.

I've talked to many.
I know what is going on in their thought processes.

They won't be nice to be around when they run out and get hungry.
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i can go fishing out of my backyard and get dinner anytime
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How many fish do you think will be left one month after all 300,000,000 Americans become fishermen?

How many deer and large game animals will be left after all 300,000,000 Americans take up hunting?

Store food now, save your family later...
There will be no animals to hunt or fish to fish for two weeks after large scale SHTF... trust me on that much..
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


They will start hunting dogs and cats after the deer and cattle are all gone, after dogs and cats, humans.
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

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i can go fishing out of my backyard and get dinner anytime
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You forgot to add "Right now." You and i and the rest of the hoard are absolutely unaware of what could bring your seeming security to a screeching halt. Best to have a back up plan to your back up plan.,...
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A 50-lb bag of Einkorn wheat grain. Can be ground for flour or sprouted for Essene bread. I've already developed a routine of fasting, and I could also get along fine on the stores of Blue Green Algae and Wheat Grass Powder. Sweeten with a little pure Stevia. Coconut oil also stores indefinitely and is calorie dense and has multiple uses.

However, I also do hours of mental clearing work daily, to better "download" from on high, so to speak. Those who use their minds to figure things out -- well, why not get ongoing guidance from the All-That-Is (which is you anyways)?

If you are unfamiliar with mental clearing work, there are many workable methods on the internet, some quite popular, such as EFT, and Sedona Method for a start. Objective: to quiet the mind chatter. So, make like E. Tolle, and Lester Levenson, and these issues will only concern you for your loved one's sakes.
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i can go fishing out of my backyard and get dinner anytime
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How many fish do you think will be left one month after all 300,000,000 Americans become fishermen?

How many deer and large game animals will be left after all 300,000,000 Americans take up hunting?

Store food now, save your family later...
There will be no animals to hunt or fish to fish for two weeks after large scale SHTF... trust me on that much..
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


water as fuel is the answer to this problem

oil will run out

cheap oil already has

with water as fuel the lights will never go out
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This could have already been mentioned in this thread, but don't forget about storing pet supplies, not just food, but bedding, things to keep them warm, additional water. MEDICINES, FOR PEOPLE AND PETS. First aid kits for pets as well (home made).
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i can go fishing out of my backyard and get dinner anytime
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How many fish do you think will be left one month after all 300,000,000 Americans become fishermen?

How many deer and large game animals will be left after all 300,000,000 Americans take up hunting?

Store food now, save your family later...
There will be no animals to hunt or fish to fish for two weeks after large scale SHTF... trust me on that much..
 Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence


They will start hunting dogs and cats after the deer and cattle are all gone, after dogs and cats, humans.
 Quoting: MONSTER


This is what scares me, even if you're trying to keep pets safe what if they come looking for them, as food?
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Bottom line is, if it happens we must remain calm and courteous. I know in my heart, that there are more good people out there than bad. As soon as the shtf, instict will kick in and a knowing need for cooperation will prevail. Just watch.
 Quoting: Bent


Don't count on that at the outset and a ways into it.

That comes later.

Before that would be the winnowing of all the self-centered raised on violence screaming me me mes who try to take from others what they should have taken care of themselves.

I don't like guns. Never did.
I have them, though, because they are necessity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32466562


I know, but we must have that mindset at the outset.

Help one another.

Thread: Help each other.
 Quoting: Bent


Bent, I agree.....we could all survive what is coming if we would just help each other out, its that easy, but unfortunatly that is probably not whats going to happen. You are right, there are more people who care then we think, just take a look around this site in itself, but we are still going to be the minorities when tshif. I am going to help out whoever I can when things fall apart, that is until the bad guys get to me. Best wishes to you and your family.
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It's a multifacted issue.

If Joe has 6 months of stored food but no weapons, and Bob has weapons but no food....

Bob's gonna eat very well & Joe is gonna starve.
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It's funny that after eating pizza and cheeseburgers all these years that during a survival situation people want organic basmati rice and shit.
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Only because the survival food storage manufacturers haven't come up with a way to provide pizza and cheeseburgers as food storage itemS!!
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what if you are unemployed and have no money, and don.t say they are just useless eaters, because many livew on one or two meals a day only, huh?
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It's a multifacted issue.

If Joe has 6 months of stored food but no weapons, and Bob has weapons but no food....

Bob's gonna eat very well & Joe is gonna starve.
 Quoting: HeyItsMe 546778


there both going to die because there morons..

This is about food, there is a ton of information in here and the gun issue has been brought up numerous times.. read from the beginning. Its all good stuff.
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It's a multifacted issue.

If Joe has 6 months of stored food but no weapons, and Bob has weapons but no food....

Bob's gonna eat very well & Joe is gonna starve.
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Maybe Bob will starve after Joe holds him at gunpoint?

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